Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 8/16/2017 7:07 PM, tert in seattle wrote:

>> > <http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/americans-cant-trim-their-pubic-hair-without-hurting-themselves/>
>> >
>>
>> Sometimes you just have to get help with those chores.
>
> LOL. One of my DILS has regular home visits from a lady beautician who
> does pubic hairdressing and waxing.
>
> While at their home I let in the uniformed waxing lady with a medical
> bag,

now things are getting interesting

On 2017-08-17 10:11 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 9.44...
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>>
>>> Someone must have.
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>> " Ophelia
>>> 06/04/2016
>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>>
>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>>> like to wash
>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>>> in that
>>> space and it gets far more use
>>>
>>
>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>
> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new
> one not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like.
>
> Cheri
When I bought mine it was because everyone swore by Bosch. It has been
VERY noisy since just after the warranty expired so I swear *at* Bosch!
I also have a Bosch oven that is poorly designed and can only be used on
the convection bake setting. The ceramic hob is fine though.
Graham

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44...

On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...

> In article >,
> says...
>
>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>
> Someone must have.
>
> Janet
>
> " Ophelia
> 06/04/2016
> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>
> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
> like to wash
> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
> in that
> space and it gets far more use
>

As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)


Wayne Boatwright

==

I see the POISONOUS BITCH Janet UK is still searching for every little thing
I ever posted in case she can use it against me. And Bingo, she thought she
had found something))))

If she was as clever as she thinks she is, she will know that when I was
laid up after tearing muscles in my back earlier this year, my husband
bought another dish washer because he didn't like washing the dishes.


YES, I POSTED ABOUT THAT HERE TOO !!!!!! FANCY YOU MISSING THAT YOU
POISONOUS BITCH!!! LOL

Perhaps she is getting thicker as she gets older ... if that was at all
possible.

*rolls eyes*



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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.44...
> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>
>> Someone must have.
>>
>> Janet
>>
>> " Ophelia
>> 06/04/2016
>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>
>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>> like to wash
>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>> in that
>> space and it gets far more use
>>
>
> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)

I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new one
not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like.

Cheri

===

Ahh you remember me posting about that earlier this year, Cheri? Thank you
very much )

I guess the POISONOUS BITCH only sees what she wants to see <g>



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"graham" > wrote in message speaking of dishwashers

> When I bought mine it was because everyone swore by Bosch. It has been
> VERY noisy since just after the warranty expired so I swear *at* Bosch!
> I also have a Bosch oven that is poorly designed and can only be used on
> the convection bake setting. The ceramic hob is fine though.
> Graham


Yes, sometimes that happens. I had it recently with the Panasonic Inverter
MW which most said they liked, but there is always going to be the odd one
that doesn't work so well. That one lasted less than a month.

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 9.44...
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>>
>>> Someone must have.
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>> " Ophelia
>>> 06/04/2016
>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>>
>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>>> like to wash
>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>>> in that
>>> space and it gets far more use
>>>
>>
>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>
> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new
> one
> not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> Ahh you remember me posting about that earlier this year, Cheri? Thank
> you very much )
>
> I guess the POISONOUS BITCH only sees what she wants to see <g>

Yes, I remember you saying. Who knows why people endlessly stalk others in
newsgroups, dangerous, unhinged people IMO.

Cheri

"graham" wrote in message news
On 2017-08-17 10:11 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 9.44...
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>>
>>> Someone must have.
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>> " Ophelia
>>> 06/04/2016
>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>>
>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>>> like to wash
>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>>> in that
>>> space and it gets far more use
>>>
>>
>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>
> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new
> one not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like.
>
> Cheri
When I bought mine it was because everyone swore by Bosch. It has been
VERY noisy since just after the warranty expired so I swear *at* Bosch!
I also have a Bosch oven that is poorly designed and can only be used on
the convection bake setting. The ceramic hob is fine though.
Graham

==

See, Graham, I haven't heard of all those problems here.

I will report back if we get any probs with our Bosch, but bear in mind it
is only a few months old.




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"tert in seattle" wrote in message
...

Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 8/16/2017 7:07 PM, tert in seattle wrote:

>> > <http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/americans-cant-trim-their-pubic-hair-without-hurting-themselves/>
>> >
>>
>> Sometimes you just have to get help with those chores.
>
> LOL. One of my DILS has regular home visits from a lady beautician who
> does pubic hairdressing and waxing.
>
> While at their home I let in the uniformed waxing lady with a medical
> bag,

now things are getting interesting

===

OH yes. She might not be very bright but she has a great imagination




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Ophelia wrote:

> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
> 9.44...
>
> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >
> >> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
> >
> > Someone must have.
> >
> > Janet
> >
> > " Ophelia
> > 06/04/2016
> > Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
> >
> > I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
> > like to wash
> > up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
> > in that
> > space and it gets far more use
> >
>
> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>
>
> Wayne Boatwright
>
> ==
>
> I see the POISONOUS BITCH Janet UK is still searching for every little thing
> I ever posted in case she can use it against me. And Bingo, she thought she
> had found something))))
>
> If she was as clever as she thinks she is, she will know that when I was
> laid up after tearing muscles in my back earlier this year, my husband
> bought another dish washer because he didn't like washing the dishes.
>
>
> YES, I POSTED ABOUT THAT HERE TOO !!!!!! FANCY YOU MISSING THAT YOU
> POISONOUS BITCH!!! LOL
>
> Perhaps she is getting thicker as she gets older ... if that was at all
> possible.
>
> *rolls eyes*


LOL, Ms. O....

;-)


--
Best
Greg

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 9.44...
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>>
>>> Someone must have.
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>> " Ophelia
>>> 06/04/2016
>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>>
>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>>> like to wash
>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>>> in that
>>> space and it gets far more use
>>>
>>
>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>
> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new
> one
> not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> Ahh you remember me posting about that earlier this year, Cheri? Thank
> you very much )
>
> I guess the POISONOUS BITCH only sees what she wants to see <g>

Yes, I remember you saying. Who knows why people endlessly stalk others in
newsgroups, dangerous, unhinged people IMO.

Cheri

==

Yes she she is dangerous and unhinged. Stalks me endlessly? Oh yes, she
has been stalking me for decades!

I keep the Poisonous Bitch in my bin but she still manages to get through
occasionally. Thank goodness for the few kind people here.

Thanks for responding Wayne or I wouldn't have seen that




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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"graham" > wrote in message speaking of dishwashers

> When I bought mine it was because everyone swore by Bosch. It has been
> VERY noisy since just after the warranty expired so I swear *at* Bosch!
> I also have a Bosch oven that is poorly designed and can only be used on
> the convection bake setting. The ceramic hob is fine though.
> Graham


Yes, sometimes that happens. I had it recently with the Panasonic Inverter
MW which most said they liked, but there is always going to be the odd one
that doesn't work so well. That one lasted less than a month.

Cheri

==

Mine has been fine for a few years now Such a shame you had a bad one. A
good one is really err good)



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"Ding - Dong Daddy" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
> 9.44...
>
> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >
> >> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
> >
> > Someone must have.
> >
> > Janet
> >
> > " Ophelia
> > 06/04/2016
> > Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
> >
> > I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
> > like to wash
> > up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
> > in that
> > space and it gets far more use
> >
>
> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>
>
> Wayne Boatwright
>
> ==
>
> I see the POISONOUS BITCH Janet UK is still searching for every little
> thing
> I ever posted in case she can use it against me. And Bingo, she thought
> she
> had found something))))
>
> If she was as clever as she thinks she is, she will know that when I was
> laid up after tearing muscles in my back earlier this year, my husband
> bought another dish washer because he didn't like washing the dishes.
>
>
> YES, I POSTED ABOUT THAT HERE TOO !!!!!! FANCY YOU MISSING THAT YOU
> POISONOUS BITCH!!! LOL
>
> Perhaps she is getting thicker as she gets older ... if that was at all
> possible.
>
> *rolls eyes*


LOL, Ms. O....

;-)

Greg

==

<g> Well you can see it for yourself)

She always knows everything, everything in her life is perfect and she knows
how to do everything perfectly.

Pity she can't read so well ... )



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On 8/17/2017 12:11 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> at last two loads per day.
>


Two loads per day!? you and David are sluts! LOL

On 8/17/2017 12:06 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>

What year didja realize you're a cock sucker? LOL

In article >,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 06:18:24a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
> > On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> >>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the
> >>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >>
> >> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of
> >> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
> >> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the
> >> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to
> >> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
> >>
> >
> > Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
> > reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the
> > worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
> >
>
> Your local appliance dealer may be wrong. The following link shows a
> chart rankinbg lowest to highest repair rate. Bosch and Whirlpool
> ranked the best.
>
> https://applianceassistant.com/New-A...Most-Reliable-
> Dishwashers.php

A local appliance store owner told me his story of why he doesn't carry
Bosch, even though he admits they can be very good. When a salesman was
there trying to sell him on carrying the line, he called their parts
hotline and tried to order a number of common parts, and few if any were
in stock and it would be a long wait to get the parts. He only wants to
carry brands that his service department can fix quickly. On the other
hand, I could get along with a busted dishwasher longer than I could a
busted stove, refrigerator or washer.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 10:22:54 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-08-17 10:11 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 9.44...
>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>>>
>>>> Someone must have.
>>>>
>>>> Janet
>>>>
>>>> " Ophelia
>>>> 06/04/2016
>>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>>>
>>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>>>> like to wash
>>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>>>> in that
>>>> space and it gets far more use
>>>>
>>>
>>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
>>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
>>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>>
>> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new
>> one not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like.
>>
>> Cheri
>When I bought mine it was because everyone swore by Bosch. It has been
>VERY noisy since just after the warranty expired so I swear *at* Bosch!
>I also have a Bosch oven that is poorly designed and can only be used on
>the convection bake setting. The ceramic hob is fine though.
>Graham

We read the reviews and got the dishwasher that was rated second, a
Kenmore Elite, just because the review said Bosch was so noisy. We
are happy with our Kenmore.
Janet US

On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the
>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of
>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the
>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to
>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>
>>
>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the
>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>> crossed)
>>
>>
>
> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
> day.
>

Of dishes?

How many people are you feeding?!?!

On 8/17/2017 10:27 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
> 9.44...
>
> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>
>> Someone must have.
>>
>> Janet
>>
>> " Ophelia
>> 06/04/2016
>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>
>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>> like to wash
>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>> in that
>> space and it gets far more use
>>
>
> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>
>
> Wayne Boatwright
>
> ==
>
> I see the POISONOUS BITCH Janet UK is still searching for every little
> thing I ever posted in case she can use it against me. And Bingo, she
> thought she had found something))))
>
> If she was as clever as she thinks she is, she will know that when I was
> laid up after tearing muscles in my back earlier this year, my husband
> bought another dish washer because he didn't like washing the dishes.
>
>
> YES, I POSTED ABOUT THAT HERE TOO !!!!!! FANCY YOU MISSING THAT YOU
> POISONOUS BITCH!!! LOL
>
> Perhaps she is getting thicker as she gets older ... if that was at all
> possible.
>
> *rolls eyes*
>
>
>
If she gets any thicker the local council will have to permit her.

On 8/17/2017 11:44 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I'm not so disgusted by the idea of making a dress and bra from pubic
> hair


Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 10:22:54 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-08-17 10:11 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 9.44...
>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>>>
>>>> Someone must have.
>>>>
>>>> Janet
>>>>
>>>> " Ophelia
>>>> 06/04/2016
>>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>>>
>>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>>>> like to wash
>>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>>>> in that
>>>> space and it gets far more use
>>>>
>>>
>>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
>>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
>>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>>
>> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new
>> one not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like.
>>
>> Cheri
>When I bought mine it was because everyone swore by Bosch. It has been
>VERY noisy since just after the warranty expired so I swear *at* Bosch!
>I also have a Bosch oven that is poorly designed and can only be used on
>the convection bake setting. The ceramic hob is fine though.
>Graham

We read the reviews and got the dishwasher that was rated second, a
Kenmore Elite, just because the review said Bosch was so noisy. We
are happy with our Kenmore.
Janet US

==

Then that is all that matters)



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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44...

On Thu 17 Aug 2017 11:26:13a, Ophelia told us...

> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 10:22:54 -0600, graham >
> wrote:
>
>>On 2017-08-17 10:11 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>> 9.44...
>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is
>>>>>> superb
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone must have.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet
>>>>>
>>>>> " Ophelia 06/04/2016
>>>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>>>>> like to wash
>>>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright
>>>>> freezer in that
>>>>> space and it gets far more use
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever
>>>> home I lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a
>>>> dishasher I wouldn't cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask.
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did
>>> get new one not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they
>>> really like.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>When I bought mine it was because everyone swore by Bosch. It has
>>been VERY noisy since just after the warranty expired so I swear
>>*at* Bosch! I also have a Bosch oven that is poorly designed and
>>can only be used on the convection bake setting. The ceramic hob
>>is fine though. Graham
>
> We read the reviews and got the dishwasher that was rated second,
> a Kenmore Elite, just because the review said Bosch was so noisy.
> We are happy with our Kenmore.
> Janet US
>
> ==
>
> Then that is all that matters)
>
>
>

Kenmore's top of the line machines are very nice and relatively
quiet. I can't even hear our Bosch when I'm standing right next to
it. In fact, most Bosch models have a small red light that shines on
the floor to let you know that the machine is running.

For those who have a Bosch d/w that they consider noisy, I would
suggest that they have a technician look at it. That isn't normal.


Wayne Boatwright

==

A light shines on the floor showing how long it has left to run. I've had
to look at that at times to check it is still running.

It is very quiet.



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On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the
>>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>
>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of
>>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the
>>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to
>>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the
>>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>> crossed)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
>> day.
>>
>
> Of dishes?
>
> How many people are you feeding?!?!

There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.

On 8/17/2017 1:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the
>>>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of
>>>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the
>>>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to
>>>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the
>>>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>>> crossed)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
>>> day.
>>>
>>
>> Of dishes?
>>
>> How many people are you feeding?!?!
>
> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.

Really?

You must use a lot of dishes, or perhaps you include pots and pans too.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:06:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>>
>
>As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
>lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
>cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)

We got our first in the early 70s - kids soon started arguing about
who was to empty it and for a few days I removed the fuse so they
remembered what hand washing and drying was like. Never heard another
argument. I would wash clothes before I would wash dishes.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:00:22 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-08-17 10:16 AM, wrote:
>
>> I have my tankless on demand water heater set at 115ºF, plenty hot for
>> bathing/showering... it can be set to 120ºF but I set it at the
>> temperature recommended by the installer, and I still need to temper
>> it with some cold water...
>
>I have may gas water heater set to just a little hotter than I can bear
>to stick my hand into.
>
>> however most dishwashers further heat the
>> water, my Maytag does, and when I use the Sanitize setting it gets
>> very hot, can't even unload it with bare hands for quite a while....
>> and recommends not to use Sanitie with plastics.
>
>
>These days it is cheaper to heat the water with gas than with
>electricity, but a dishwasher only uses a few gallons of water per load,
>so it doesn't make much sense to heat up all the water that high when
>you can use the machine to heat it up that extra little but. I suppose
>it would be better to have it hotter for loads of laundry that call for
>hot water, but we rarely to a load in hot. If we do need it hotter I can
>always go down and crank it up for a while.

An on demand tankless is always gas, natural or propane... and is the
least expensive system to operate, it doesn't keep a tankful of water
hot 24/7 yet it never runs out of hot water unless it runs out of
water. I should have installed a tankless on demand unit many years
ago, the savings are spectacular. The only drawback is instead of
having to wait 30 seconds for hot water to exit the tap it could be up
to 45 seconds.

On 8/17/2017 1:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 12:10:31p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
>>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>
>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that
>>>>>>> the US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality
>>>>>> of their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be
>>>>>> the same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough
>>>>>> to comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when
>>>>> the worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>>>> crossed)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads
>>>> per day.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of dishes?
>>>
>>> How many people are you feeding?!?!
>>
>> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.
>>
>
> There are 2 of us as well. I wash absolutely everything I use in
> the kitchen: dishware, flatware, all sizes of pots, pans, lids,
> electric skillets, tea pitchers, coffee pots, etc.. Large and
> awkward pieces take up a lot of room. We also use 12 cat food bowls
> every day, and I don't believe in overloading.
>
> The sink is only a repository for items waiting to be washed, or for
> food prep.
>
> Call me crazy or lazy, I do! :-)
>
12 cat food bowls?!?

Good grief, you have that many cats to feed?

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44...

On Thu 17 Aug 2017 12:10:31p, Ed Pawlowski told us...

> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that
>>>>>> the US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality
>>>>> of their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be
>>>>> the same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough
>>>>> to comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when
>>>> the worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>>> crossed)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads
>>> per day.
>>>
>>
>> Of dishes?
>>
>> How many people are you feeding?!?!
>
> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.
>

There are 2 of us as well. I wash absolutely everything I use in
the kitchen: dishware, flatware, all sizes of pots, pans, lids,
electric skillets, tea pitchers, coffee pots, etc.. Large and
awkward pieces take up a lot of room. We also use 12 cat food bowls
every day, and I don't believe in overloading.

The sink is only a repository for items waiting to be washed, or for
food prep.

Call me crazy or lazy, I do! :-)


Wayne Boatwright

==

Ahhaaa that is what I needed to know) I do too)



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"Casa de Masa" wrote in message news
On 8/17/2017 1:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the
>>>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of
>>>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the
>>>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to
>>>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the
>>>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>>> crossed)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
>>> day.
>>>
>>
>> Of dishes?
>>
>> How many people are you feeding?!?!
>
> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.

Really?

You must use a lot of dishes, or perhaps you include pots and pans too.

==

Don't you?



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the
>>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>
>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of
>>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the
>>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to
>>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the
>>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>> crossed)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
>> day.
>>
>
> Of dishes?
>
> How many people are you feeding?!?!

There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.

==

Do you just put dishes in? I put in everything that will fit .... pans et
al

Since I was laid up when it came, I never saw the instruction book. Anyway I
just asked him for it and I will have a look through it later.

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"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:31:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>Heck, I rarely use a dish pan any more. Just takes up
>>space that I don't have and won't fit under my sink. Now I tend to pick
>>whatever the biggest pot or bowl is, remove any excess whatever, then fill
>>it with soap and water and use that for the smaller stuff.
>
> Why don't you just wash your dishes in the sink? No dish pan required.
> I've been washing dishes without a dish pan all my life.

You mean stopper the sink and fill it up? Nope. Renders the sink useless
while I am doing that.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/16/2017 7:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>> Potatoes are far cleaner than they used to be. Most of the time now,
>> potatoes other than Russets don't seem to need any scrubbing. Even
>> Russets are fairly clean. I can remember when I was a kid, the outsides
>> were usually covered in dirt.
>
> They grow them on trees now and the rain washed them.

Ah yes. The treetatoes.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Potatoes are far cleaner than they used to be. Most of the time now,
>> potatoes other than Russets don't seem to need any scrubbing. Even
>> Russets
>> are fairly clean. I can remember when I was a kid, the outsides were
>> usually
>> covered in dirt.
>
> I was at the in-laws many years ago (1979 in upstate NY).
> FIL grew potatoes and when I was there, it was time to
> harvest them. We walked the rows and pulled up the entire
> plant with many potatoes as roots.
>
> Left them there in the sun to dry out a bit then he took
> them down to the cool cellar to store for long time. You
> leave the dirt on them for storing and only clean them
> when you want to eat some.
>
> Covered in dirt helped them last longer, evidently.

That could be! I do remember potatoes lasting a long time when I was a kid.
They don't now.

"Casa de Masa" > wrote in message
news
<snip>
> Well, pubic hair grows where it does for a reason you know.
>
>> Better than some of the ink people get.
>
> Which is faint praise at best.
>
> Barring one is overly hirsute or a swimmer, what need is their for
> depilitation?

Try it. You'll see.

On 2017-08-17 3:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
>>> day.
>>>
>>
>> Of dishes?
>>
>> How many people are you feeding?!?!
>
> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.

Same here. My wife usually does the dishes and we can get two days worth
of dishes into the dishwasher, though we have to hand wash some pots and
pans and utensils in between. If I am doing the dishes I usually do them
all by hand.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:11:17 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
79.44...
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>>
>>> Someone must have.
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>> " Ophelia
>>> 06/04/2016
>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>>
>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>>> like to wash
>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>>> in that
>>> space and it gets far more use
>>>
>>
>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)
>
>I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new one
>not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like.
>
>Cheri

I rarely use the dishwasher, perhaps 3-4 times a year, and only when
the plastic freezer storage containers pile up... I find handwashing
dishes for two no inconvenience whatsoever, especially since more than
50% of the time we use paper plates.... we see no reason to use china
plates for a sandwich and we always use paper plates for fried foods,
paper plates majorly suck out the fat calories.. and our used paper
plates do double duty, they feed the cats. Plain paper plates cost
..08¢ each. much less than washing dishes... and are very compostible.

On 8/17/2017 3:13 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
> On 8/17/2017 1:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
>>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>>>>
>>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
>>>> day.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of dishes?
>>>
>>> How many people are you feeding?!?!
>>
>> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.
>
> Really?
>
> You must use a lot of dishes, or perhaps you include pots and pans too.

Two people three meals is six dishes. Perhaps a snack adds two more so
now, for 2 days we have 16 dishes, four mugs, a few glasses. Add in a
couple of mixing bowls and maybe pot, spatula, whisk and it is filled.

I don't know how Wayne fills his twice a day, but he mentioned that
everything goes in it. Large pans and pots take up a lot of real
estate. My favorite pan is a 12" coated Wohl and most times I can just
wipe it clean with a paper towel or a swixh of the sponge so it never
goes in the DW.

"Casa de Masa" > wrote in message
news
> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the
>>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>
>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of
>>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the
>>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to
>>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the
>>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>> crossed)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
>> day.
>>
>
> Of dishes?
>
> How many people are you feeding?!?!

I think just Sheldon.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the
>>>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of
>>>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the
>>>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to
>>>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the
>>>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>>> crossed)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per
>>> day.
>>>
>>
>> Of dishes?
>>
>> How many people are you feeding?!?!
>
> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.

When I did use mine it was generally run every 2-3 days. But it's small so I
never put anything in there like big trays, bowls or pots.

"Casa de Masa" > wrote in message
news
> On 8/17/2017 1:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 12:10:31p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>>
>>> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
>>>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that
>>>>>>>> the US gets the same stuff we get in UK?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality
>>>>>>> of their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the
>>>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be
>>>>>>> the same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough
>>>>>>> to comment on the quality or reliability of these lines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of
>>>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when
>>>>>> the worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers
>>>>>> crossed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads
>>>>> per day.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of dishes?
>>>>
>>>> How many people are you feeding?!?!
>>>
>>> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day.
>>>
>>
>> There are 2 of us as well. I wash absolutely everything I use in
>> the kitchen: dishware, flatware, all sizes of pots, pans, lids,
>> electric skillets, tea pitchers, coffee pots, etc.. Large and
>> awkward pieces take up a lot of room. We also use 12 cat food bowls
>> every day, and I don't believe in overloading.
>>
>> The sink is only a repository for items waiting to be washed, or for
>> food prep.
>>
>> Call me crazy or lazy, I do! :-)
>>
> 12 cat food bowls?!?
>
> Good grief, you have that many cats to feed?

Wow! We have two cats. Two bowls get washed daily. Those hold the moist
food. I don't wash the dry food bowls daily. They don't seem to need it.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.44...
> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us...
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb
>>
>> Someone must have.
>>
>> Janet
>>
>> " Ophelia
>> 06/04/2016
>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash
>>
>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I
>> like to wash
>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer
>> in that
>> space and it gets far more use
>>
>
> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I
> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't
> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-)

For me, the dishwasher is too much work. All that bending over to load and
unload. Just easier for me to wash in the sink as I go.