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"Sqwerts" > wrote in message news  > On 8/17/2017 10:27 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message >> 9.44... >> >> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us... >> >>> In article >, >>> says... >>> >>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb  >>> >>> Someone must have. >>> >>> Janet >>> >>> " Ophelia >>> 06/04/2016 >>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash >>> >>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I >>> like to wash >>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer >>> in that >>> space and it gets far more use >>> >> >> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I >> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't >> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-) >> >> >> Wayne Boatwright >> >> == >> >> I see the POISONOUS BITCH Janet UK is still searching for every little >> thing I ever posted in case she can use it against me. And Bingo, she >> thought she had found something ))))>> >> If she was as clever as she thinks she is, she will know that when I was >> laid up after tearing muscles in my back earlier this year, my husband >> bought another dish washer because he didn't like washing the dishes. >> >> >> YES, I POSTED ABOUT THAT HERE TOO !!!!!! FANCY YOU MISSING THAT YOU >> POISONOUS BITCH!!! LOL >> >> Perhaps she is getting thicker as she gets older ... if that was at all >> possible. >> >> *rolls eyes* >> >> >> > If she gets any thicker the local council will have to permit her. Hehehe. |
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On 2017-08-17 4:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Barring one is overly hirsute or a swimmer, what need is their for >> depilitation? > > Some of the ladies I know that do it say it is for comfort and > convenience. I don't see a downside myself. Np pun intended eh. ;-) |
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 13:28:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Doris Night" > wrote in message .. . >> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:31:09 -0700, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>>Heck, I rarely use a dish pan any more. Just takes up >>>space that I don't have and won't fit under my sink. Now I tend to pick >>>whatever the biggest pot or bowl is, remove any excess whatever, then fill >>>it with soap and water and use that for the smaller stuff. >> >> Why don't you just wash your dishes in the sink? No dish pan required. >> I've been washing dishes without a dish pan all my life. > >You mean stopper the sink and fill it up? Nope. Renders the sink useless >while I am doing that. When we wash dishes in the sink it takes about five minutes. During that time, we don't generally want to use it for anything else. Doris |
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... > On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:11:17 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message . 179.44... >>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us... >>> >>>> In article >, >>>> says... >>>> >>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb >>>> >>>> Someone must have. >>>> >>>> Janet >>>> >>>> " Ophelia >>>> 06/04/2016 >>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash >>>> >>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I >>>> like to wash >>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer >>>> in that >>>> space and it gets far more use >>>> >>> >>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I >>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't >>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-) >> >>I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get new >>one >>not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like. >> >>Cheri > > I rarely use the dishwasher, perhaps 3-4 times a year, and only when > the plastic freezer storage containers pile up... I find handwashing > dishes for two no inconvenience whatsoever, especially since more than > 50% of the time we use paper plates.... we see no reason to use china > plates for a sandwich and we always use paper plates for fried foods, > paper plates majorly suck out the fat calories.. and our used paper > plates do double duty, they feed the cats. Plain paper plates cost > .08¢ each. much less than washing dishes... and are very compostible. I don't run mine often either, as you say it doesn't take a lot to wash them, but I don't want to eat off paper plates for everyday. I feel the same way about styrofoam cups etc. Cheri |
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On 8/17/2017 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message > ... >> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:11:17 -0700, "Cheri" > >> wrote: >> >>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >>> 9.44... >>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us... >>>> >>>>> In article >, >>>>> says... >>>>> >>>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb >>>>> >>>>> Someone must have. >>>>> >>>>> Janet >>>>> >>>>> " Ophelia >>>>> 06/04/2016 >>>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash >>>>> >>>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I >>>>> like to wash >>>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer >>>>> in that >>>>> space and it gets far more use >>>>> >>>> >>>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I >>>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't >>>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-) >>> >>> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get >>> new one >>> not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like. >>> >>> Cheri >> >> I rarely use the dishwasher, perhaps 3-4 times a year, and only when >> the plastic freezer storage containers pile up... I find handwashing >> dishes for two no inconvenience whatsoever, especially since more than >> 50% of the time we use paper plates.... we see no reason to use china >> plates for a sandwich and we always use paper plates for fried foods, >> paper plates majorly suck out the fat calories.. and our used paper >> plates do double duty, they feed the cats. Plain paper plates cost >> .08¢ each. much less than washing dishes... and are very compostible. > > > I don't run mine often either, as you say it doesn't take a lot to wash > them, but I don't want to eat off paper plates for everyday. I feel the > same way about styrofoam cups etc. > > Cheri Same here. I just loaded the last of the days dishes and have 17 plates in it. That would cost Sheldon 1.36 + tax. Probably costs me a buck with detergent to run the machine so it is not a cost factor. There are serving bowls, utensils and the like. Put in the detergent, push a button, come back to perfectly clean dishes that takes less than 5 minutes to put away. Dave mentioned the time to empty so I timed one load. 3 3/4 minutes. |
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On 8/15/2017 1:10 PM, KenK wrote:
> My local newspaper had an interesting editorial yesterday. It said that > Popular Science magazine had an article saying the kitchen sink sponge is > the most germ-laden object in the house, even worse that the toilet. Says > the sponge should be replaced every week. Says microwaving it doesm't help > much. No info about magazine issue date or the name of the article and I > didn't search for it. > > I think they could be right and will start replacing my sponge weekly. > > I bet boiling it for five or ten minutes in water would work but replacing > it is simpler and more likely to be effective. > > Such studies are interesting... often interchanging the term "germs" with "bacteria". I use scrubber sponges in the bathroom sink. Those I use many times. The only thing I use the bathroom sink for is to brush my teeth. To wash my face, I wet a washcloth under hot water. Wash my face, splash to rinse. I don't worry about germs on the washcloth, either, BTW. They're my germs. I occasionally use a [different, of course!] scrubber sponge in the kitchen for something with stuck-on food; it gets tossed in the dishwasher. Mostly I use dish cloths which go in the washing machine with strong detergent along with the other hot water items.. I'm not terribly worried about germs. IMO, these days we live in an extremely *germophobic* society. I'm not sitting around calculating water temperatures or counting germs per washed plate. If you have some medical condition which requires a sterile environment, good luck with that. The world is dirty. You may be able to keep germs to a minimum in your home with a little common sense and detergent, but they're everywhere dontcha know. You track in germs every time you enter your house. Touch anything outside. Of course if you never leave the house you may be protected... Jill |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.45... On Thu 17 Aug 2017 01:52:57p, Ed Pawlowski told us... > On 8/17/2017 3:13 PM, Casa de Masa wrote: >> On 8/17/2017 1:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote: >>>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: > >>>>> >>>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads >>>>> per day. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Of dishes? >>>> >>>> How many people are you feeding?!?! >>> >>> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day. >> >> Really? >> >> You must use a lot of dishes, or perhaps you include pots and >> pans too. > > Two people three meals is six dishes. Perhaps a snack adds two > more so now, for 2 days we have 16 dishes, four mugs, a few > glasses. Add in a couple of mixing bowls and maybe pot, spatula, > whisk and it is filled. > > I don't know how Wayne fills his twice a day, but he mentioned > that everything goes in it. Large pans and pots take up a lot of > real estate. My favorite pan is a 12" coated Wohl and most times > I can just wipe it clean with a paper towel or a swixh of the > sponge so it never goes in the DW. > I don't calculate the number and types of items I put in the dish washer, but when it's full I run it. I think I mentioned somewhere before that I put EVERYTHING from the kitchen in there. I wash absolutely nothing by hand. The racking system and tub in a Bosch is slightly smaller than that of a KA. Wayne Boatwright == Ahh yes, my Bosch is quite small. Much smaller than that other dishwasher I had. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message news
"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 9.44... > On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us... > >> In article >, >> says... >> >>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb >> >> Someone must have. >> >> Janet >> >> " Ophelia >> 06/04/2016 >> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash >> >> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I >> like to wash >> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer >> in that >> space and it gets far more use >> > > As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I > lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't > cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-) For me, the dishwasher is too much work. All that bending over to load and unload. Just easier for me to wash in the sink as I go. == Yes, that is why I got rid of my last one. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
. 45... On Thu 17 Aug 2017 01:12:28p, Ophelia told us... > "Casa de Masa" wrote in message > news
>> On 8/17/2017 1:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote: >>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us... >>>> >>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that >>>>>>> the US gets the same stuff we get in UK? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the >>>>>> quality of their appliances and power tool lines. I believe >>>>>> that the appliances and power tools are made in the US and >>>>>> may not be the same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't >>>>>> know enough to comment on the quality or reliability of these >>>>>> lines. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of >>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when >>>>> the worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA. >>>>> >>>>> === >>>>> >>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers >>>>> crossed) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads >>>> per day. >>>> >>> >>> Of dishes? >>> >>> How many people are you feeding?!?! >> >> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day. > > Really? > > You must use a lot of dishes, or perhaps you include pots and pans > too. > > == > > Don't you? > Virtually anything used in the the kitchen or from the dinner table. I wash NOTHING by hand. Wayne Boatwright === I can't say there is nothing I wash by hand, only if it is too big to fit in the DW. I always try to use pans et al that fit into it so there is never much -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:27:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 8/17/2017 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote: >> > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:11:17 -0700, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >>>> 9.44... >>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us... >>>>> >>>>>> In article >, >>>>>> says... >>>>>> >>>>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone must have. >>>>>> >>>>>> Janet >>>>>> >>>>>> " Ophelia >>>>>> 06/04/2016 >>>>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash >>>>>> >>>>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I >>>>>> like to wash >>>>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer >>>>>> in that >>>>>> space and it gets far more use >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I >>>>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't >>>>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-) >>>> >>>> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get >>>> new one >>>> not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>> >>> I rarely use the dishwasher, perhaps 3-4 times a year, and only when >>> the plastic freezer storage containers pile up... I find handwashing >>> dishes for two no inconvenience whatsoever, especially since more than >>> 50% of the time we use paper plates.... we see no reason to use china >>> plates for a sandwich and we always use paper plates for fried foods, >>> paper plates majorly suck out the fat calories.. and our used paper >>> plates do double duty, they feed the cats. Plain paper plates cost >>> .08¢ each. much less than washing dishes... and are very compostible. >> >> >> I don't run mine often either, as you say it doesn't take a lot to wash >> them, but I don't want to eat off paper plates for everyday. I feel the >> same way about styrofoam cups etc. >> >> Cheri > >Same here. I just loaded the last of the days dishes and have 17 plates >in it. That would cost Sheldon 1.36 + tax. Probably costs me a buck >with detergent to run the machine so it is not a cost factor. There are >serving bowls, utensils and the like. > >Put in the detergent, push a button, come back to perfectly clean dishes >that takes less than 5 minutes to put away. Dave mentioned the time to >empty so I timed one load. 3 3/4 minutes. Same as you Ed, could not be more simple and convenient even for a household comprised of one person. It might seem more likely that I would be the one using paper plates but I cannot imagine doing that, in fact, can't remember the last time I had to eat off a paper plate. I did notice when we first put a dishwasher in that we were better off health-wise. One of five could have a cold/'flu and it did not automatically wind up infecting the lot of us. |
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> wrote in message
... > I did notice when we first put a dishwasher in that we were better off > health-wise. One of five could have a cold/'flu and it did not > automatically wind up infecting the lot of us. I don't think the cold/flu catching has much to do with a dishwasher, but it couldn't hurt. Cheri |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > It's hard to say, as there several mitigating factors. Virtually no > one hand washes dishes in water at a temperature that will kill many > germs. That's strike one. If dishwashing liquid is not anti- > bacterial, that's strike two. A seemingly clean dishrag or sponge can > also can also contribute to the germ factor. That's strike three. > > With a dishwasher the incoming water is usually at least 120 degrees > and many machines heat the water to an even higher temperture. Most > dishwasher detergents are anti-bacaerial. Last of all, there are no > dishrags or sponges involved. > > Again, it's hard to say... And there ya go whining again. oh those evil germs. I hand wash and so wonder how I've survived all these years.  I even gave ferrets access to my dinner plates for "all you can eat." Once they checked it out, ate what they wanted, I would eat. Evidently ferret germs are not so bad. eh? |
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On 8/18/2017 7:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Doctor told me once, main reason for so many more colds > and flu in winter is because people keep their houses > closed up and the viruses multiply in the warm environment. > > Also important to wash hands frequently during and after > going out into public and handling things - even money. > > Those precautions seem to work for me so I believe. > We have no cloth towels in the kitchen. The machine drys the dishes in there, anything washed by hand air dries. Dish towels are sometimes used to dry hands and are potentially a source of cross contamination. Paper towels do the job. |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 06:26:08 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: > wrote in message .. . > >> I did notice when we first put a dishwasher in that we were better off >> health-wise. One of five could have a cold/'flu and it did not >> automatically wind up infecting the lot of us. > > >I don't think the cold/flu catching has much to do with a dishwasher, but it >couldn't hurt. > >Cheri It wasn't that one or other of us would catch a cold/flu but it no longer did the complete rounds of the family, one member alone could have it. |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:55:26 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote: >On Fri 18 Aug 2017 06:26:08a, Cheri told us... > >> > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> I did notice when we first put a dishwasher in that we were >>> better off health-wise. One of five could have a cold/'flu and >>> it did not automatically wind up infecting the lot of us. >> >> >> I don't think the cold/flu catching has much to do with a >> dishwasher, but it couldn't hurt. >> >> Cheri >> >> > >It's hard to say, as there several mitigating factors. Virtually no >one hand washes dishes in water at a temperature that will kill many >germs. That's strike one. If dishwashing liquid is not anti- >bacterial, that's strike two. A seemingly clean dishrag or sponge can >also can also contribute to the germ factor. That's strike three. > >With a dishwasher the incoming water is usually at least 120 degrees >and many machines heat the water to an even higher temperture. Most >dishwasher detergents are anti-bacaerial. Last of all, there are no >dishrags or sponges involved. > >Again, it's hard to say... Lol that's more scientific - we just noticed that things didn't get passed around |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:04:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> > >> It's hard to say, as there several mitigating factors. Virtually no >> one hand washes dishes in water at a temperature that will kill many >> germs. That's strike one. If dishwashing liquid is not anti- >> bacterial, that's strike two. A seemingly clean dishrag or sponge can >> also can also contribute to the germ factor. That's strike three. >> >> With a dishwasher the incoming water is usually at least 120 degrees >> and many machines heat the water to an even higher temperture. Most >> dishwasher detergents are anti-bacaerial. Last of all, there are no >> dishrags or sponges involved. >> >> Again, it's hard to say... > >And there ya go whining again. oh those evil germs. I hand wash >and so wonder how I've survived all these years. > >I even gave ferrets access to my dinner plates for >"all you can eat." Once they checked it out, ate what >they wanted, I would eat. Evidently ferret germs are >not so bad. eh? Contact helps to build immunity. |
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On 8/17/2017 11:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> The irony is Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On 8/17/2017 4:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> ObFood: "Halal- Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On 8/17/2017 2:12 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Casa de Masa" wrote in message news
> On 8/17/2017 1:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:>> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote: >>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us... >>>> >>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... >>>>> >>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the >>>>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of >>>>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the >>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the >>>>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to >>>>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of >>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the >>>>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA. >>>>> >>>>> === >>>>> >>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers >>>>> crossed) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per >>>> day. >>>> >>> >>> Of dishes? >>> >>> How many people are you feeding?!?! >> >> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day. > > Really? > > You must use a lot of dishes, or perhaps you include pots and pans too. > > == > > Don't you? > > > Never, if they don't get washed the residue welds on from the heat cycle. |
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On 8/17/2017 3:02 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Casa de Masa" > wrote in message > news >> On 8/17/2017 1:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 12:10:31p, Ed Pawlowski told us... >>> >>>> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote: >>>>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us... >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that >>>>>>>>> the US gets the same stuff we get in UK? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality >>>>>>>> of their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the >>>>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be >>>>>>>> the same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough >>>>>>>> to comment on the quality or reliability of these lines. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of >>>>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when >>>>>>> the worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> === >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers >>>>>>> crossed) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads >>>>>> per day. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Of dishes? >>>>> >>>>> How many people are you feeding?!?! >>>> >>>> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day. >>>> >>> >>> There are 2 of us as well. I wash absolutely everything I use in >>> the kitchen: dishware, flatware, all sizes of pots, pans, lids, >>> electric skillets, tea pitchers, coffee pots, etc.. Large and >>> awkward pieces take up a lot of room. We also use 12 cat food bowls >>> every day, and I don't believe in overloading. >>> >>> The sink is only a repository for items waiting to be washed, or for >>> food prep. >>> >>> Call me crazy or lazy, I do! :-) >>> >> 12 cat food bowls?!? >> >> Good grief, you have that many cats to feed? > > Wow! We have two cats. Two bowls get washed daily. Those hold the moist > food. I don't wash the dry food bowls daily. They don't seem to need it. I bet! |
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On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 10:54:02 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/18/2017 7:18 AM, Gary wrote: > > > > > Doctor told me once, main reason for so many more colds > > and flu in winter is because people keep their houses > > closed up and the viruses multiply in the warm environment. > > > > Also important to wash hands frequently during and after > > going out into public and handling things - even money. > > > > Those precautions seem to work for me so I believe. > > > > We have no cloth towels in the kitchen. The machine drys the dishes in > there, anything washed by hand air dries. Dish towels are sometimes > used to dry hands and are potentially a source of cross contamination. > Paper towels do the job. I have a hand towel that hangs by the sink, and a dish-drying towel elsewhere. I wash my sharp knives by hand and dry them immediately. I don't often wash anything else by hand, but today I had a plastic container for which there wasn't enough room left in the dishwasher. I washed it by hand and left it to air dry. I'm not that concerned about bacteria, although I'm pretty cautious about the drain in the kitchen sink. If a spoon falls down into the garbage disposal, it gets a jolly good rinse in hot water before I do anything else with it. Cindy Hamilton |
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> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:07:43 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote: > >> <http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/americans-cant-trim-their-pubic-hair-without-hurting-themselves/> > > And what do you do with all that shaved pubic hair? You make a dress > out it, of course! > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ll-10-000.html > > I'm not so disgusted by the idea of making a dress and bra from pubic > hair as I am the implication that people have pubic hair as long as > some of those locks of hair in that dress and on that bra. THAT'S > much scarier! ok I read that sentence a couple of times and I'm pretty sure it is impossible to parse as written, and I can't even guess what you really are trying to say clearly we are in the midst of a PUBIC HEALTH CRISIS |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 07:41:08 -0300, wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:27:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >>On 8/17/2017 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote: >>> > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:11:17 -0700, "Cheri" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >>>>> 9.44... >>>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us... >>>>>> >>>>>>> In article >, >>>>>>> says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Someone must have. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Janet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> " Ophelia >>>>>>> 06/04/2016 >>>>>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I >>>>>>> like to wash >>>>>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer >>>>>>> in that >>>>>>> space and it gets far more use >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I >>>>>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't >>>>>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-) >>>>> >>>>> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get >>>>> new one >>>>> not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like. >>>>> >>>>> Cheri >>>> >>>> I rarely use the dishwasher, perhaps 3-4 times a year, and only when >>>> the plastic freezer storage containers pile up... I find handwashing >>>> dishes for two no inconvenience whatsoever, especially since more than >>>> 50% of the time we use paper plates.... we see no reason to use china >>>> plates for a sandwich and we always use paper plates for fried foods, >>>> paper plates majorly suck out the fat calories.. and our used paper >>>> plates do double duty, they feed the cats. Plain paper plates cost >>>> .08¢ each. much less than washing dishes... and are very compostible. >>> >>> >>> I don't run mine often either, as you say it doesn't take a lot to wash >>> them, but I don't want to eat off paper plates for everyday. I feel the >>> same way about styrofoam cups etc. >>> >>> Cheri >> >>Same here. I just loaded the last of the days dishes and have 17 plates >>in it. That's an awful lot of plates in a day for two people... are you sure you are just two living there? Even without using paper plates the most dishes we would generate is 4-6... at most two per meal. I wash by hand, along with a pot or two it takes me five minutes to wash our two dishes and utensils, dry, and put away. If we used the dishwasher it would take us a week to fill it. We used to use the dishwasher for company but we don't have more than 2-4 for company anymore, and then we'd use the good dishes, silverware, and glassware, those I carefully wash by hand... dishwashing compound etches fine dishes, silverware, and glassware. I have two sets of fine glassware that I used to machine wash, over a couple years it became quite cloudy... we will still use it but it'd be embarrassing for company use. And to me seeing a sink with dirty dishes and a dishwasher with dirty dishes reminds me of an unflushed toilet. I see nothing negative about paper plates, they are cleaner than dishes fresh from the dishwasher... cleanliness is the main reason fast food joints use paper/plastic throwaways. >>That would cost Sheldon 1.36 + tax. Probably costs me a buck >>with detergent to run the machine so it is not a cost factor. There are >>serving bowls, utensils and the like. >> >>Put in the detergent, push a button, come back to perfectly clean dishes >>that takes less than 5 minutes to put away. Dave mentioned the time to >>empty so I timed one load. 3 3/4 minutes. > > >Same as you Ed, could not be more simple and convenient even for a >household comprised of one person. It might seem more likely that I >would be the one using paper plates but I cannot imagine doing that, >in fact, can't remember the last time I had to eat off a paper plate. > >I did notice when we first put a dishwasher in that we were better off >health-wise. One of five could have a cold/'flu and it did not >automatically wind up infecting the lot of us. I can assure you that using hand washed dishes does not cause colds or you found the cure for the common cold. Paper plates are not just sanitary, they are medically sterile. |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 07:18:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
wrote: >> >> I did notice when we first put a dishwasher in that we were better off >> health-wise. One of five could have a cold/'flu and it did not >> automatically wind up infecting the lot of us. > >Doubtful that the dishwasher made the difference even if >the timing was right. > >Doctor told me once, main reason for so many more colds >and flu in winter is because people keep their houses >closed up and the viruses multiply in the warm environment. > >Also important to wash hands frequently during and after >going out into public and handling things - even money. > >Those precautions seem to work for me so I believe. Most germs are airborne, they are mostly transmitted by the air we breathe... we sterilize the air in our house, the central A/C employs a UV lamp (actually two UV lamps), the air in our house is constantly filtered and sterilized. |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:02:55 -0400, wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 07:41:08 -0300, wrote: >> >>Same as you Ed, could not be more simple and convenient even for a >>household comprised of one person. It might seem more likely that I >>would be the one using paper plates but I cannot imagine doing that, >>in fact, can't remember the last time I had to eat off a paper plate. >> >>I did notice when we first put a dishwasher in that we were better off >>health-wise. One of five could have a cold/'flu and it did not >>automatically wind up infecting the lot of us. > >I can assure you that using hand washed dishes does not cause colds or >you found the cure for the common cold. Paper plates are not just >sanitary, they are medically sterile. Tree murderer |
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On 8/18/2017 1:02 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 07:41:08 -0300, wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:27:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> On 8/17/2017 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote: >>>> > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:11:17 -0700, "Cheri" > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >>>>>> 9.44... >>>>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In article >, >>>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No one needs to convince me. I have a Bosch and it is superb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Someone must have. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Janet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> " Ophelia >>>>>>>> 06/04/2016 >>>>>>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it. I >>>>>>>> like to wash >>>>>>>> up as I go along when I am cooking. I put a small upright freezer >>>>>>>> in that >>>>>>>> space and it gets far more use >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever home I >>>>>>> lived in. I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I wouldn't >>>>>>> cook. :-) Yes, I'm lazy. No need to ask. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get >>>>>> new one >>>>>> not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri >>>>> >>>>> I rarely use the dishwasher, perhaps 3-4 times a year, and only when >>>>> the plastic freezer storage containers pile up... I find handwashing >>>>> dishes for two no inconvenience whatsoever, especially since more than >>>>> 50% of the time we use paper plates.... we see no reason to use china >>>>> plates for a sandwich and we always use paper plates for fried foods, >>>>> paper plates majorly suck out the fat calories.. and our used paper >>>>> plates do double duty, they feed the cats. Plain paper plates cost >>>>> .08¢ each. much less than washing dishes... and are very compostible. >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't run mine often either, as you say it doesn't take a lot to wash >>>> them, but I don't want to eat off paper plates for everyday. I feel the >>>> same way about styrofoam cups etc. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>> >>> Same here. I just loaded the last of the days dishes and have 17 plates >>> in it. > > That's an awful lot of plates in a day for two people... are you sure > you are just two living there? Even without using paper plates the > most dishes we would generate is 4-6... at most two per meal. I wash > by hand, along with a pot or two it takes me five minutes to wash our > two dishes and utensils, dry, and put away. If we used the dishwasher > it would take us a week to fill it. The 17 is for two days. Breakfast can be 3 plates as if I make bacon or sausage it will go on one to the table. Same with some side dishes at dinner. We used to use the dishwasher for > company but we don't have more than 2-4 for company anymore, and then > we'd use the good dishes, silverware, and glassware, those I carefully > wash by hand... dishwashing compound etches fine dishes, silverware, > and glassware. I have two sets of fine glassware that I used to > machine wash, over a couple years it became quite cloudy... we will > still use it but it'd be embarrassing for company use. I have both my mother's china and my grandmother's. Neither is dishwasher safe, neither has been used in at least 6 years. Our everyday dishes are nice enough to use for company. We don't entertain as much theses days too. When we pass on our kids will sell both sets for $3 in a garage sale. |
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"Casa de Masa" wrote in message news
On 8/17/2017 2:12 PM, Ophelia wrote: > "Casa de Masa" wrote in message news
> On 8/17/2017 1:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:>> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote: >>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us... >>>> >>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... >>>>> >>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the >>>>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of >>>>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the >>>>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the >>>>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to >>>>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of >>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the >>>>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA. >>>>> >>>>> === >>>>> >>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers >>>>> crossed) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per >>>> day. >>>> >>> >>> Of dishes? >>> >>> How many people are you feeding?!?! >> >> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day. > > Really? > > You must use a lot of dishes, or perhaps you include pots and pans too. > > == > > Don't you? > > > Never, if they don't get washed the residue welds on from the heat cycle. == Oh! That doesn't happen with my new one! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2017-08-18 12:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/18/2017 1:02 PM, wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 07:41:08 -0300, wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:27:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/17/2017 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote: >>>>> > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:11:17 -0700, "Cheri" > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >>>>>>> 9.44... >>>>>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 05:15:08a, Janet told us... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In article >, >>>>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No one needs to convince me.Â* I have a Bosch and it is superb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Â* Someone must have. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Â*Â*Â*Â* Janet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Â*Â* "Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Ophelia >>>>>>>>> 06/04/2016 >>>>>>>>> Nuking food ...was Roasting Butternut Squash >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I used to have a dishwasher but ended up getting rid of it.Â* I >>>>>>>>> like to wash >>>>>>>>> up as I go along when I am cooking.Â* I put a small upright freezer >>>>>>>>> in that >>>>>>>>> space and it gets far more use >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As early as 1952 there has always been a dishwasher in whatever >>>>>>>> home I >>>>>>>> lived in.Â* I've often said that if I didn't have a dishasher I >>>>>>>> wouldn't >>>>>>>> cook. :-)Â* Yes, I'm lazy.Â* No need to ask. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have one but use it seldomly. I remember that O said they did get >>>>>>> new one >>>>>>> not long ago, a Bosch, which most people say they really like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>> >>>>>> I rarely use the dishwasher, perhaps 3-4 times a year, and only when >>>>>> the plastic freezer storage containers pile up... I find handwashing >>>>>> dishes for two no inconvenience whatsoever, especially since more >>>>>> than >>>>>> 50% of the time we use paper plates.... we see no reason to use china >>>>>> plates for a sandwich and we always use paper plates for fried foods, >>>>>> paper plates majorly suck out the fat calories.. and our used paper >>>>>> plates do double duty, they feed the cats.Â* PlainÂ* paper plates cost >>>>>> .08¢ each. much less than washing dishes... and are very compostible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't run mine often either, as you say it doesn't take a lot to >>>>> wash >>>>> them, but I don't want to eat off paper plates for everyday. I feel >>>>> the >>>>> same way about styrofoam cups etc. >>>>> >>>>> Cheri >>>> >>>> Same here.Â* I just loaded the last of the days dishes and have 17 >>>> plates >>>> in it. >> >> That's an awful lot of plates in a day for two people... are you sure >> you are just two living there?Â* Even without using paper plates the >> most dishes we would generate is 4-6... at most two per meal.Â* I wash >> by hand, along with a pot or two it takes me five minutes to wash our >> two dishes and utensils, dry, and put away.Â* If we used the dishwasher >> it would take us a week to fill it. > > The 17 is for two days.Â* Breakfast can be 3 plates as if I make bacon or > sausage it will go on one to the table.Â* Same with some side dishes at > dinner. > > Â*We used to use the dishwasher for >> company but we don't have more than 2-4 for company anymore, and then >> we'd use the good dishes, silverware, and glassware, those I carefully >> wash by hand... dishwashing compound etches fine dishes, silverware, >> and glassware.Â* I have two sets of fine glassware that I used to >> machine wash, over a couple years it became quite cloudy... we will >> still use it but it'd be embarrassing for company use. > > I have both my mother's china and my grandmother's.Â* Neither is > dishwasher safe, neither has been used in at least 6 years.Â* Our > everyday dishes are nice enough to use for company.Â* We don't entertain > as much theses days too.Â*Â* When we pass on our kids will sell both sets > for $3 in a garage sale. > > BTW, I took your advice to try Cascade Platinum and you've converted me:-) |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.44... > On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us... > >> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... >> >> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote: >> >>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the >>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >>> >>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of >>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the >>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the >>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to >>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines. >>> >> >> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of >> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the >> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA. >> >> === >> >> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers >> crossed) >> >> > > Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per > day. That wouldn't work at all in CA coming off several seasons of drought, though this year has been much better, I fill both sinks half way when I finish cooking etc., wash in one, rinse in the other. Not much water used at all, but we don't have a lot of dishes to do now with just the two of us. Cheri |
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On 8/18/2017 1:00 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Try reading it again when you're not so stoned. Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:00:05 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:55:34 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote: > >> Sqwertz wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:07:43 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote: >>> >>>> <http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/americans-cant-trim-their-pubic-hair-without-hurting-themselves/> >>> >>> And what do you do with all that shaved pubic hair? You make a dress >>> out it, of course! >>> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ll-10-000.html >>> >>> I'm not so disgusted by the idea of making a dress and bra from pubic >>> hair as I am the implication that people have pubic hair as long as >>> some of those locks of hair in that dress and on that bra. THAT'S >>> much scarier! >> >> ok I read that sentence a couple of times and I'm pretty sure it is >> impossible to parse as written, and I can't even guess what you really >> are trying to say > >Try reading it again when you're not so stoned. It's a perfectly good >sentence - certainly better than what passes most newspaper editor's >desks. I know you can't handle criticism, but it's grammatically faulty in such a way that it's not understandable. |
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On 8/18/2017 7:39 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-08-18 12:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> I have both my mother's china and my grandmother's. Neither is >> dishwasher safe, neither has been used in at least 6 years. Our >> everyday dishes are nice enough to use for company. We don't >> entertain as much theses days too. When we pass on our kids will >> sell both sets for $3 in a garage sale. >> > BTW, I took your advice to try Cascade Platinum and you've converted me:-) He converted me, too. The new dishwasher just wasn't getting stuff properly clean - Ed suggested Platinum, I tried it, it works really well. |
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On 8/18/2017 3:57 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 8/18/2017 7:39 PM, graham wrote: > > He converted me, too. The new dishwasher just wasn't getting stuff > properly clean - Ed suggested Platinum, I tried it, it works really well. > Glad you both like it. It works so well I won't even try anything else to save a buck or two. Just now worth the chance of getting stuck with a brand that does not do the job. Finis has a new formula now but unless they give ma a sample I'm not going to invest my money to check it out. |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
9.44... On Fri 18 Aug 2017 11:32:17a, Ophelia told us... > "Casa de Masa" wrote in message > news
>> On 8/17/2017 2:12 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> "Casa de Masa" wrote in message >> news
>> Pawlowski wrote:>>> On 8/17/2017 2:19 PM, Casa de Masa wrote: >>>> On 8/17/2017 10:11 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>>> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us... >>>>> >>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that >>>>>>>> the US gets the same stuff we get in UK? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the >>>>>>> quality of their appliances and power tool lines. I believe >>>>>>> that the appliances and power tools are made in the US and >>>>>>> may not be the same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't >>>>>>> know enough to comment on the quality or reliability of >>>>>>> these lines. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of >>>>>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines >>>>>> when the worked but had too many service calls. We got >>>>>> another KA. >>>>>> >>>>>> === >>>>>> >>>>>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers >>>>>> crossed) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads >>>>> per day. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Of dishes? >>>> >>>> How many people are you feeding?!?! >>> >>> There are two of us and I usually run it every other day. >> >> Really? >> >> You must use a lot of dishes, or perhaps you include pots and >> pans too. >> >> == >> >> Don't you? >> >> >> > Never, if they don't get washed the residue welds on from the heat > cycle. > > == > > Oh! That doesn't happen with my new one! > > > Nor with mine. If you happen to have something that is really burned on, there is a product that you can spray on, let stand, then wash, and it removes even the worst burned on food. It's called Dawn Rapid Dissolver. It works on glass bakeware, porcelain coated cast iron, sainless steel, etc. Not recomended for aluminum. Wayne Boatwright == Oh I didn't realise he was referring to burnt stuff. I don't burn my pans so perhaps that is why I don't have a problem. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 11:54:11 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 79.44... >> On Thu 17 Aug 2017 07:04:16a, Ophelia told us... >> >>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... >>> >>> On 8/17/2017 5:50 AM, dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>>> I've heard of this kind of thing before. Are you sure that the >>>>> US gets the same stuff we get in UK? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >>>> >>>> I'm guessing that their auto parts may not reflect the quality of >>>> their appliances and power tool lines. I believe that the >>>> appliances and power tools are made in the US and may not be the >>>> same designs that are sold in Europe. I don't know enough to >>>> comment on the quality or reliability of these lines. >>>> >>> >>> Our local appliance dealer stopped carrying Bosch because of >>> reliability issues. He said they were were good machines when the >>> worked but had too many service calls. We got another KA. >>> >>> === >>> >>> We got our Bosch early this year. No problems yet (fingers >>> crossed) >>> >>> >> >> Our curent one is in its sixth year. We wash at last two loads per >> day. > >That wouldn't work at all in CA coming off several seasons of drought, >though this year has been much better, I fill both sinks half way when I >finish cooking etc., wash in one, rinse in the other. Not much water used at >all, but we don't have a lot of dishes to do now with just the two of us. > >Cheri > Dishwashers use far less water to do the same amount of dishes. |
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:04:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> > >> It's hard to say, as there several mitigating factors. Virtually no >> one hand washes dishes in water at a temperature that will kill many >> germs. That's strike one. If dishwashing liquid is not anti- >> bacterial, that's strike two. A seemingly clean dishrag or sponge can >> also can also contribute to the germ factor. That's strike three. >> >> With a dishwasher the incoming water is usually at least 120 degrees >> and many machines heat the water to an even higher temperture. Most >> dishwasher detergents are anti-bacaerial. Last of all, there are no >> dishrags or sponges involved. >> >> Again, it's hard to say... > >And there ya go whining again. oh those evil germs. I hand wash >and so wonder how I've survived all these years. > >I even gave ferrets access to my dinner plates for >"all you can eat." Once they checked it out, ate what >they wanted, I would eat. Evidently ferret germs are >not so bad. eh? One of my cats, Jilly, eats from my plate along with me... especially roast chicken... we both prefer dark meat but she takes the best parts... I guess if I catch a cold I'll make an appointment with the Vet. I don't think which method one uses to wash dishes has a whit to do with one's health issues. I also think all that hand washing that's touted has a whit to do with catching colds either... has to do with whom one associates, whose air one shares. Hanging in crowds elevates ones odds of catching whatever is going around... that's what my doctors says... during flu season he insists all patients in the waiting room wear a paper mask. He says constant hand washing is BS unless one is a thumb sucker/nose picker. Of course hand washing is always beneficial prior to handling food. Properly cooking food kills germs, which is why restaurants won't serve burgers other than well done. Meat sections are sterile internally so if one grinds meat themself they can safely cook it as rare as they like, or eat it raw. |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:55:34 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote: > >> Sqwertz wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:07:43 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote: >>> >>>> <http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/americans-cant-trim-their-pubic-hair-without-hurting-themselves/> >>> >>> And what do you do with all that shaved pubic hair? You make a dress >>> out it, of course! >>> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ll-10-000.html >>> >>> I'm not so disgusted by the idea of making a dress and bra from pubic >>> hair as I am the implication that people have pubic hair as long as >>> some of those locks of hair in that dress and on that bra. THAT'S >>> much scarier! >> >> ok I read that sentence a couple of times and I'm pretty sure it is >> impossible to parse as written, and I can't even guess what you really >> are trying to say > > Try reading it again when you're not so stoned. It's a perfectly good > sentence - certainly better than what passes most newspaper editor's > desks. > > -sw maybe I need to get stoned in order to understand it |
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