"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:18:07 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/20/2017 8:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> We're only at 65% here. But even if it was 99.9% it still wouldn't be
>> a big deal to me. I can't even fathom traveling just to see it. I've
>> already seen a total eclipse. I'd rather sit out all night and watch
>> a meteor shower - the one last week barely got any publicity compared
>> to the boring eclipse <yawn>.:-)
>>
>> -sw
>
>I've seen partial solar eclipses in my lifetime. That's why one of my
>elementary school teachers taught us to make a pinhole camera.
>
>I've seen a bunch of lunar eclipses. Given all the media attention
>about this solar eclipse you'd think one had never happened before.
>
>I might have been interested in a meteor shower. I enjoy watching
>things like heat lightning. This time of year there are lots of
>thunderstorms. When it's really humid but does not rain, and a storm is
>somewhere to the south, I often see what I call heat lightning. I love
>watching that.
>
>Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
>
>Jill

An armchair naturalist

==

What a waste



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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:24:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:18:07 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 8/20/2017 8:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> We're only at 65% here. But even if it was 99.9% it still wouldn't be
>>> a big deal to me. I can't even fathom traveling just to see it. I've
>>> already seen a total eclipse. I'd rather sit out all night and watch
>>> a meteor shower - the one last week barely got any publicity compared
>>> to the boring eclipse <yawn>.:-)
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>I've seen partial solar eclipses in my lifetime. That's why one of my
>>elementary school teachers taught us to make a pinhole camera.
>>
>>I've seen a bunch of lunar eclipses. Given all the media attention
>>about this solar eclipse you'd think one had never happened before.
>>
>>I might have been interested in a meteor shower. I enjoy watching
>>things like heat lightning. This time of year there are lots of
>>thunderstorms. When it's really humid but does not rain, and a storm is
>>somewhere to the south, I often see what I call heat lightning. I love
>>watching that.
>>
>>Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
>>
>>Jill
>
>An armchair naturalist

I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.

==

But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.



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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 8/20/2017 10:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:


>>> I *will* take note if my cat or local wildlife react to the eclipse.
>>>
>>
>> Even a partial eclipse is noticeable by the dimming of light, the
>> drop in temperature, and the silence of the birds.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
> That's what I'm interested in. Will the birds fall silent? Will the
> nightime bugs and birds think it's night time? Things to ponder.
>
> Jill

I have to go to the lab tomorrow. I'm going before the eclipse in case
vampires come out during it and attack during the blood draw.

==

If they do be sure and post some pics )



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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:24:58 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:24:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>An armchair naturalist
>
>I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
>need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.
>
>==
>
>But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.

I think I've seen things here because we don't often have clouds, but
I forget what it was. A second moon or a red dot that was Mars or a
close encounter of sorts. But in the end, life just goes on.

On 2017-08-20 11:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> That's what I'm interested in.Â* Will the birds fall silent?Â* Will the
>> nightime bugs and birds think it's night time?Â* Things to ponder.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I have to go to the lab tomorrow.Â* I'm going before the eclipse in case
> vampires come out during it and attack during the blood draw.


You should be safe. Take some garlic just in case.

On 2017-08-21 6:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
days, it seen as a serious public health issue.
>
> Not complete blindness, perhaps, but retinal damage nevertheless.
>
> In the old days, it was a lot simpler when doctors didn't wash their
> hands and women died in droves of puerperal fever. Now we know better.

I am not sure of the connection there. It is not like the doctors are
sticking their hands up there. Women have some raw surfaces after
childbirth and are susceptible to infections. Antibiotics are the main
reason for the reduced postpartum infections and deaths.

In article >, says...
> Subject: R U doing anything special for the eclipse tomorrow?
> From: jmcquown >
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>
> On 8/20/2017 6:15 PM, Janet wrote:
> > [quoted text muted]
> > Even a partial eclipse is noticeable by the dimming of light, the
> > drop in temperature, and the silence of the birds.
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> That's what I'm interested in. Will the birds fall silent?

SW Britain had a total eclipse in 1999; Scotland only got 94 % of
totality but what I remember was the chill, and the birds going silent.

Janet UK

In article >, says...
>
> On 8/20/2017 10:36 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 8/20/2017 10:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 8/20/2017 6:15 PM, Janet wrote:
> >>> Even a partial eclipse is noticeable by the dimming of light, the
> >>> drop in temperature, and the silence of the birds.
> >
> >> That's what I'm interested in. Will the birds fall silent? Will the
> >> nightime bugs and birds think it's night time? Things to ponder.
> >
> > That's what I've read, birds return to their nests, nocturnal animals
> > come out, etc ... all of them probably a little confused at what a
> > short day it seemed.
> >
> > nancy
>
> That's the fun thing about it! No one really knows how wildlife will
> react.

Yes, Jill, we do know, from previous total eclipses that happened
outide USA.

Janet UK

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:14:45 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
>On 8/20/2017 8:31 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Things were a lot simpler back in the old days. People just used film
>>> leader or glass darkened with candle soot to view the sun. As far as I
>>> know there was no mass epidemic of blindness caused by viewing a solar
>>> eclipse. These days, it seen as a serious public health issue.
>>
>> What I have heard is a scale with partial loss of vision on one end to
>> complete blindness at the other.
>> Janet US
>>
>
>A couple seconds glance is not a big deal but a half hour stare would
>sure do some damage.
>
>==
>
>Back in the day I have heard of people looking into the reflection from a
>bowl of water.
>
>I don't know how safe that was.

That is so neat, I like that bit of old time thinking. thanks
Janet US

Am Montag, 21. August 2017 14:35:10 UTC+2 schrieb Dave Smith:
> On 2017-08-21 6:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> days, it seen as a serious public health issue.
> >
> > Not complete blindness, perhaps, but retinal damage nevertheless.
> >
> > In the old days, it was a lot simpler when doctors didn't wash their
> > hands and women died in droves of puerperal fever. Now we know better.
>
> I am not sure of the connection there. It is not like the doctors are
> sticking their hands up there. Women have some raw surfaces after
> childbirth and are susceptible to infections. Antibiotics are the main
> reason for the reduced postpartum infections and deaths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpa....27s_Plague.22

Bye, Sanne.

On 8/21/2017 5:50 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>
> Mine don't have the mirror stuff. Much discussion on the local FB
> groups. Seems most of what was being sold around here and also online
> was bogus. I just got my Amazon refund. Wonder how many people will
> damage their eyes because they think their glasses are good when they're
> not!?

Perhaps none. They do not carry the certification but that does not
mean the are no good. It means they did not pay a lot of money to an
agency that certifies them. You can be looking at $10,000 or so.

My company made products that had to be certified and we had quarterly
inspections. What a joke. What we made met all the specifications and
we never cheated but the inspection and testing itself was meaningless.
The reason it had to be certified is that is was a building product.
With the certification stamp on the box the building inspector at the
job site was satisfied.

On 8/21/2017 7:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce"Â* wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:24:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:18:07 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/20/2017 8:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> We're only at 65% here.Â* But even if it was 99.9% it still wouldn't be
>>>> a big deal to me.Â* I can't even fathom traveling just to see it.Â* I've
>>>> already seen a total eclipse.Â* I'd rather sit out all night and watch
>>>> a meteor shower - the one last week barely got any publicity compared
>>>> to the boring eclipse <yawn>.:-)
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> I've seen partial solar eclipses in my lifetime.Â* That's why one of my
>>> elementary school teachers taught us to make a pinhole camera.
>>>
>>> I've seen a bunch of lunar eclipses.Â* Given all the media attention
>>> about this solar eclipse you'd think one had never happened before.
>>>
>>> I might have been interested in a meteor shower.Â* I enjoy watching
>>> things like heat lightning.Â* This time of year there are lots of
>>> thunderstorms.Â* When it's really humid but does not rain, and a storm is
>>> somewhere to the south,Â* I often see what I call heat lightning.Â* I love
>>> watching that.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> An armchair naturalist
>
> I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
> need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.
>
> ==
>
> But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.
>
>
>

I'm not going to travel 600 miles to see it but I'd go maybe 100. There
are fanatics coming from all over the world.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:14:45 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
>On 8/20/2017 8:31 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Things were a lot simpler back in the old days. People just used film
>>> leader or glass darkened with candle soot to view the sun. As far as I
>>> know there was no mass epidemic of blindness caused by viewing a solar
>>> eclipse. These days, it seen as a serious public health issue.
>>
>> What I have heard is a scale with partial loss of vision on one end to
>> complete blindness at the other.
>> Janet US
>>
>
>A couple seconds glance is not a big deal but a half hour stare would
>sure do some damage.
>
>==
>
>Back in the day I have heard of people looking into the reflection from a
>bowl of water.
>
>I don't know how safe that was.

That is so neat, I like that bit of old time thinking. thanks
Janet US

==

I wonder if that is, actually safe?



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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I'm not going to travel 600 miles to see it but I'd go maybe 100. There
> are fanatics coming from all over the world.

And funny to for those to travel so far only to end up in a zone
with clouds all day. hehehe

Jill says she's within the full zone but her weather is calling
for thunderstorms tomorrow afternoon.

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 02:50:27 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 13:45:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>news >>>> On 8/20/2017 1:12 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>> On Sun 20 Aug 2017 09:52:06a, tert in seattle told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> U.S Janet B wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The path of totality is extremely close to us but we don't want
>>>>>>> to get caught up in the bizarre traffic. Craters of the Moon is
>>>>>>> very close and they are doing some wonderful programs on eclipse
>>>>>>> day. The viewing would be wonderful from out there but it is
>>>>>>> expected that the roads will be parked on both sides of the
>>>>>>> highway and stopped traffic in the driving lanes. I'm not young
>>>>>>> enough for all that anymore. I would stay home and just stand
>>>>>>> out in the street but we are surrounded by mature trees and while
>>>>>>> we get some sunlight, we don't actually see the sun this time of
>>>>>>> year. I think we are going to the fairgrounds. They have special
>>>>>>> admission for The Fair prior to the eclipse and free approved
>>>>>>> glasses. (we have our glasses already) Anyway, we can look
>>>>>>> around the Fair knowing it won't be too hot to go because the sun
>>>>>>> mostly won't be shining full bore. How about you? Going
>>>>>>> somewhere special or eclipse party or just watch on TV?
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to sit under some trees
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw the one in 1979, and where we now live it won't be much
>>>>> different. We'll probably just stay in. If I could see an absolute
>>>>> total eclipse that would be different.
>>>>>
>>>> I am directly in the path of the total eclipse and don't know what the
>>>> big
>>>> deal is.
>>>>
>>>> For those who don't know, here's what the sun will look like between 1-3
>>>> PM tomorrow over the Southern United States:
>>>>
>>>> http://k2radio.com/files/2017/06/Get...7181.jpg?w=720
>>>>
>>>> Okay. You need special glasses or a pinhole camera and special glasses
>>>> to
>>>> look watch the moon passing in front of the sun.
>>>>
>>>> Eclipse or no, looking directly at the sun is never a good idea. In the
>>>> case of staring at an eclipse, you could burn out your retinas and go
>>>> blind.
>>>>
>>>> Nasa is warning people there are companies out there selling unreliable
>>>> "eclipse glasses":
>>>>
>>>> http://www.postandcourier.com/news/n...76a11fe3d.html
>>>>
>>>> Some people will do anything to make a buck, including blind you.
>>>
>>>Yep. I think most of what's being sold are bogus. Lots of people aren't
>>>questioning them. Mine appear to be good but Amazon can't certify so will
>>>issue a refund.
>>>
>>>I did the pinhole thing once in elementary school. Big whoop. Not going to
>>>do it again.
>>
>> I did the pinhole thing in school too and agree, it lacks the
>> excitement.
>> There's a definite difference between the lab approved produce glasses
>> and the iffy ones. The lab ones, in addition to being dark, also have
>> a kind of mirror fabric on the away from the face side.
>> Janet US
>
>Mine don't have the mirror stuff. Much discussion on the local FB groups.
>Seems most of what was being sold around here and also online was bogus. I
>just got my Amazon refund. Wonder how many people will damage their eyes
>because they think their glasses are good when they're not!?

Julie, here is an article from today's CNN. Scroll down to
"Why Do You Need Eclipse Glasses" It tells you how to check the
glasses you have to see if they are safe and compliant.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/health...pse/index.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/yc5pq2ts
Janet US

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Wonder how many people will damage their eyes
> because they think their glasses are good when they're not!?

Only the complete idiots in the USA. Watch for it...a class
action lawsuit for mass eye damage. The lawyers will settle
and walk away with millions and the victims will all receive
checks for a couple of dollars.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 8/21/2017 7:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:24:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:18:07 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/20/2017 8:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> We're only at 65% here. But even if it was 99.9% it still wouldn't be
>>>> a big deal to me. I can't even fathom traveling just to see it. I've
>>>> already seen a total eclipse. I'd rather sit out all night and watch
>>>> a meteor shower - the one last week barely got any publicity compared
>>>> to the boring eclipse <yawn>.:-)
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> I've seen partial solar eclipses in my lifetime. That's why one of my
>>> elementary school teachers taught us to make a pinhole camera.
>>>
>>> I've seen a bunch of lunar eclipses. Given all the media attention
>>> about this solar eclipse you'd think one had never happened before.
>>>
>>> I might have been interested in a meteor shower. I enjoy watching
>>> things like heat lightning. This time of year there are lots of
>>> thunderstorms. When it's really humid but does not rain, and a storm is
>>> somewhere to the south, I often see what I call heat lightning. I love
>>> watching that.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> An armchair naturalist
>
> I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
> need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.
>
> ==
>
> But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.
>
>
>

I'm not going to travel 600 miles to see it but I'd go maybe 100. There
are fanatics coming from all over the world.

==

I think it might be a bit longer than 600 miles for me)

But yes, I would love to see it)

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Sqwertz wrote:
>
> I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time. I
> didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.

I started to watch that just last week. Was it worth watching?
I watched the first part until she went to see her mother.
I finally got bored and changed channels. Maybe it was a
good movie though? I also didn't know that it was an eclipse
movie.

On 8/20/2017 4:45 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Bah humbug.
>
> -sw

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On 8/20/2017 5:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I'm sure the eclipse is generating


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On 8/20/2017 6:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> boring eclipse <yawn>.:-)
>
> -sw


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On 8/20/2017 8:49 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> This guy is totally not with the program.


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> It is a physical impossibility

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On 8/20/2017 5:59 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> Things were a lot simpler back in the old days. People just used film leader or glass darkened with candle soot to view the sun. As far as I know there was no mass epidemic of blindness caused by viewing a solar eclipse. These days, it seen as a serious public health issue.

For example:

http://www.oregonlive.com/eclipse/20...k_portlan.html


Take Portlander Louis Tomososki's word for it. In 1963, when he was 16,
he watched a solar eclipse while standing on his high school's baseball
field.

"Oh, 20 seconds probably, that's all it took," Tomososki told Fox 12
Oregon. "I'm glad I didn't go 40 seconds, it would have been even worse."

Looking at the eclipse without protection burned a hole in the retina of
his right eye, leaving Tomososki with a permanent blind spot.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2017-08-21 6:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> days, it seen as a serious public health issue.
> >
> > Not complete blindness, perhaps, but retinal damage nevertheless.
> >
> > In the old days, it was a lot simpler when doctors didn't wash their
> > hands and women died in droves of puerperal fever. Now we know better.
>
> I am not sure of the connection there. It is not like the doctors are
> sticking their hands up there.

So, you've never seen an assisted childbirth.

Janet UK

On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:58:13 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/20/2017 9:33 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 14:58:54 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/20/2017 1:12 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>> On Sun 20 Aug 2017 09:52:06a, tert in seattle told us...
>>>>
>>>>> U.S Janet B wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The path of totality is extremely close to us but we don't want
>>>>>> to get caught up in the bizarre traffic. Craters of the Moon is
>>>>>> very close and they are doing some wonderful programs on eclipse
>>>>>> day. The viewing would be wonderful from out there but it is
>>>>>> expected that the roads will be parked on both sides of the
>>>>>> highway and stopped traffic in the driving lanes. I'm not young
>>>>>> enough for all that anymore. I would stay home and just stand
>>>>>> out in the street but we are surrounded by mature trees and while
>>>>>> we get some sunlight, we don't actually see the sun this time of
>>>>>> year. I think we are going to the fairgrounds. They have special
>>>>>> admission for The Fair prior to the eclipse and free approved
>>>>>> glasses. (we have our glasses already) Anyway, we can look
>>>>>> around the Fair knowing it won't be too hot to go because the sun
>>>>>> mostly won't be shining full bore. How about you? Going
>>>>>> somewhere special or eclipse party or just watch on TV?
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to sit under some trees
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I saw the one in 1979, and where we now live it won't be much
>>>> different. We'll probably just stay in. If I could see an absolute
>>>> total eclipse that would be different.
>>>>
>>> I am directly in the path of the total eclipse and don't know what the
>>> big deal is.
>>>
>>> For those who don't know, here's what the sun will look like between 1-3
>>> PM tomorrow over the Southern United States:
>>>
>>> http://k2radio.com/files/2017/06/Get...7181.jpg?w=720
>>>
>>> Okay. You need special glasses or a pinhole camera and special glasses
>>> to look watch the moon passing in front of the sun.
>>>
>>> Eclipse or no, looking directly at the sun is never a good idea. In the
>>> case of staring at an eclipse, you could burn out your retinas and go blind.
>>>
>>> Nasa is warning people there are companies out there selling unreliable
>>> "eclipse glasses":
>>>
>>> http://www.postandcourier.com/news/n...76a11fe3d.html
>>>
>>> Some people will do anything to make a buck, including blind you.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I don't intend to get up in the middle of the night to peep out into
>> nothingness... probably be cloudy and raining... I'll have a couple
>> extra shots of vodka and and I'll be eclipsed! LOL
>>
>Well hey, you won't have to, since it's happening in the middle of the
>afternoon! Help yourself to that Crystal Palace around 1:15 PM.
>
>Jill

I think I'm too far north to see much if anything, probably won't get
any darker here than from an afternoon rain cloud.

On 8/21/2017 9:54 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/21/2017 7:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> An armchair naturalist
>>
I love bird watching; doesn't mean I climb up in the trees and hang out
with them. LOL

>> I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
>> need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I'm not going to travel 600 miles to see it but I'd go maybe 100. There
> are fanatics coming from all over the world.

The guy who lives across the street drove approx 125 miles to Charleston
(he took one of his telescopes) so he could get a better view of it. Of
course the fact that he's recently divorced and dating a women who lives
there might have factored into it.

It's cloudy here and it's been raining so I think the people who are
expecting to see something spectacular might be a tad disappointed.

Jill

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time. I
> > didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.
>
> I started to watch that just last week. Was it worth watching?
> I watched the first part until she went to see her mother.
> I finally got bored and changed channels. Maybe it was a
> good movie though? I also didn't know that it was an eclipse
> movie.
>
>
Next time it's on watch the whole movie, stick it out even if you're
a bit bored with part of it. Report back and let us know what you
think of the movie.

Yes, I've seen it a few times but you need to watch the entire movie
before dismissing it.

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 11:28:04 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> It's cloudy here and it's been raining so I think the people who are
> expecting to see something spectacular might be a tad disappointed.
>
> Jill
>
>
I'm in it's direct path and it's very clear here and hot as blazes.
I've got my glasses ready and will check it out periodically.

On 2017-08-21 11:24 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 2017-08-21 6:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> days, it seen as a serious public health issue.
>>>
>>> Not complete blindness, perhaps, but retinal damage nevertheless.
>>>
>>> In the old days, it was a lot simpler when doctors didn't wash their
>>> hands and women died in droves of puerperal fever. Now we know better.
>>
>> I am not sure of the connection there. It is not like the doctors are
>> sticking their hands up there.
>
> So, you've never seen an assisted childbirth.

Forceps or vacuum is not the same as shoving their hands up into
something that is already stretched.

On 8/21/2017 10:41 AM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time. I
>> didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.
>
> I started to watch that just last week. Was it worth watching?
> I watched the first part until she went to see her mother.
> I finally got bored and changed channels. Maybe it was a
> good movie though? I also didn't know that it was an eclipse
> movie.
>
That was one of the few Stephen King books I couldn't get interested in.
That and the Dark Tower series. I had no idea it was about an eclipse.

Jill

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 8:35:10 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-08-21 6:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> days, it seen as a serious public health issue.
> >
> > Not complete blindness, perhaps, but retinal damage nevertheless.
> >
> > In the old days, it was a lot simpler when doctors didn't wash their
> > hands and women died in droves of puerperal fever. Now we know better.
>
> I am not sure of the connection there. It is not like the doctors are
> sticking their hands up there. Women have some raw surfaces after
> childbirth and are susceptible to infections. Antibiotics are the main
> reason for the reduced postpartum infections and deaths.

The rate of puerperal fever dropped after doctors began
washing their hands after leaving, say, a patient with
an infected wound and going to a woman in childbed.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpartum_infections#.22The_Doctor.27s_Plague.22>

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/21/2017 10:15 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:14:45 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 8/20/2017 8:31 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Things were a lot simpler back in the old days. People just used film
>>>> leader or glass darkened with candle soot to view the sun. As far as I
>>>> know there was no mass epidemic of blindness caused by viewing a solar
>>>> eclipse. These days, it seen as a serious public health issue.
>>>
>>> What I have heard is a scale with partial loss of vision on one end to
>>> complete blindness at the other.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>
>> A couple seconds glance is not a big deal but a half hour stare would
>> sure do some damage.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Back in the day I have heard of people looking into the reflection from a
>> bowl of water.
>>
>> I don't know how safe that was.
>
> That is so neat, I like that bit of old time thinking. thanks
> Janet US
>
> ==
>
> I wonder if that is, actually safe?
>
>
>
Not according to what I've read. It would be like looking at it
reflected in a mirror. Not a good idea. Of course way back in the day
they didn't have special exclipse eye glasses.

Jill

On 8/21/2017 10:15 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> I'm not going to travel 600 miles to see it but I'd go maybe 100. There
>> are fanatics coming from all over the world.
>
> And funny to for those to travel so far only to end up in a zone
> with clouds all day. hehehe
>
> Jill says she's within the full zone but her weather is calling
> for thunderstorms tomorrow afternoon.
>
Yep! It's the rainy season here. It rained this morning and has been
very cloudy all day.

The start of the eclipse is about 20 minutes away now. I think the
eclipse enthusiasts in this area will be disappointed. I'm going to
have to turn on some lights, but I also sometimes have to turn on the
lights during a thunderstorm in the middle of the day. <shrug>

Jill

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 4:39:10 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time. I
> > didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.
>
> I started to watch that just last week. Was it worth watching?
> I watched the first part until she went to see her mother.
> I finally got bored and changed channels. Maybe it was a
> good movie though? I also didn't know that it was an eclipse
> movie.

It's about a daughter forced to defend her mother on a murder charge and having to come to terms her feelings of embarrassment and resentment towards her. You know - standard mother/daughter issues. My guess is that you won't like it.

On 8/21/2017 7:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:24:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:18:07 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've seen partial solar eclipses in my lifetime. That's why one of my
>>> elementary school teachers taught us to make a pinhole camera.
>>>
>>> I've seen a bunch of lunar eclipses. Given all the media attention
>>> about this solar eclipse you'd think one had never happened before.
>>>
>>> I might have been interested in a meteor shower. I enjoy watching
>>> things like heat lightning. This time of year there are lots of
>>> thunderstorms. When it's really humid but does not rain, and a storm is
>>> somewhere to the south, I often see what I call heat lightning. I love
>>> watching that.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> An armchair naturalist
>
> I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
> need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.
>
> ==
>
> But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.
>
I wish you could see it, Ophelia. I don't think anyone in my area will
actually get to see it. Cloudy, rainy. I suspect it will be a
non-event. I'm sorry for those who really wanted to watch it and
purchased special glasses.

Jill

On 8/21/2017 7:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:24:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:18:07 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've seen partial solar eclipses in my lifetime. That's why one of my
>>> elementary school teachers taught us to make a pinhole camera.
>>>
>>> I've seen a bunch of lunar eclipses. Given all the media attention
>>> about this solar eclipse you'd think one had never happened before.
>>>
>>> I might have been interested in a meteor shower. I enjoy watching
>>> things like heat lightning. This time of year there are lots of
>>> thunderstorms. When it's really humid but does not rain, and a storm is
>>> somewhere to the south, I often see what I call heat lightning. I love
>>> watching that.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> An armchair naturalist
>
> I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
> need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.
>
> ==
>
> But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.
>
I wish you could see it, Ophelia. I don't think anyone in my area will
actually get to see it. Cloudy, rainy. I suspect it will be a
non-event. I'm sorry for those who really wanted to watch it and
purchased special glasses.

Jill

We are at Lake Tahoe where usually on our back deck there is a cacophony of bird sounds and lots of chipmunks. It is 10:30 and the eclipse started about 45 min ago. It is dead silent outside
Very strange! Funny thing is, it's still pretty bright out and we are expecting a nice, sunny beach day. The animals must be more sensitive to the change of light that I can't even see

Nellie

Am Montag, 21. August 2017 19:06:35 UTC+2 schrieb Jill McQuown:
> On 8/21/2017 7:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > "Bruce" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:24:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:18:07 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've seen partial solar eclipses in my lifetime. That's why one of my
> >>> elementary school teachers taught us to make a pinhole camera.
> >>>
> >>> I've seen a bunch of lunar eclipses. Given all the media attention
> >>> about this solar eclipse you'd think one had never happened before.
> >>>
> >>> I might have been interested in a meteor shower. I enjoy watching
> >>> things like heat lightning. This time of year there are lots of
> >>> thunderstorms. When it's really humid but does not rain, and a storm is
> >>> somewhere to the south, I often see what I call heat lightning. I love
> >>> watching that.
> >>>
> >>> Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> An armchair naturalist
> >
> > I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
> > need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.
> >
> I wish you could see it, Ophelia. I don't think anyone in my area will
> actually get to see it. Cloudy, rainy. I suspect it will be a
> non-event. I'm sorry for those who really wanted to watch it and
> purchased special glasses.
>
> Jill

Breathtaking.
I've just seen it live on https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ynJOVNmoVkGR - goosebumps, tears in my eyes. The total solar eclipse I've seen so far here in Munich, Germany was cloudy where we were at that time...

Bye, Sanne.

- show quoted text -
We are at Lake Tahoe where usually on our back deck there is a cacophony of bird sounds and lots of chipmunks. It is 10:30 and the eclipse started about 45 min ago. It is dead silent outside
Very strange! Funny thing is, it's still pretty bright out and we are expecting a nice, sunny beach day. The animals must be more sensitive to the change of light that I can't even see

Nellie

Replying to my own post to add that we will have 85% totality here as opposed to ~73% at home in the SFBA. That's not why we're here though, just a coincidence.

Nellie

On 8/21/2017 1:35 PM, Nellie wrote:
> On 8/21/2017 7:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:24:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:18:07 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've seen partial solar eclipses in my lifetime. That's why one of my
>>>> elementary school teachers taught us to make a pinhole camera.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen a bunch of lunar eclipses. Given all the media attention
>>>> about this solar eclipse you'd think one had never happened before.
>>>>
>>>> I might have been interested in a meteor shower. I enjoy watching
>>>> things like heat lightning. This time of year there are lots of
>>>> thunderstorms. When it's really humid but does not rain, and a storm is
>>>> somewhere to the south, I often see what I call heat lightning. I love
>>>> watching that.
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow it's just going to get dark in the afternoon. <shrug>
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> An armchair naturalist
>>
>> I agree with Jill. Those planets are just doing their thing. I never
>> need to watch or monitor that kind of stuff. It always goes well.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> But it isn't a daily occurrence and I would love to see it.
>>
> I wish you could see it, Ophelia. I don't think anyone in my area will
> actually get to see it. Cloudy, rainy. I suspect it will be a
> non-event. I'm sorry for those who really wanted to watch it and
> purchased special glasses.
>
> Jill
>
> We are at Lake Tahoe where usually on our back deck there is a cacophony of bird sounds and lots of chipmunks. It is 10:30 and the eclipse started about 45 min ago. It is dead silent outside
> Very strange! Funny thing is, it's still pretty bright out and we are expecting a nice, sunny beach day. The animals must be more sensitive to the change of light that I can't even see
>
> Nellie
>
I'm in the southeast coast on an island. I have noticed in the past 20
minutes or so a cacophony of birds. I'm seeing more hummingbirds than I
usually see this time of day. The birds are acting as if dusk is
coming. Time to get that last bite to eat before bedtime.

It's not gotten dark due to the eclipse here yet.

Jill