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> than we saw here.

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:52:41 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>We haven't been lucky here for years. Anything happening has been blocked
>by heavy cloud so I know what you mean


here's a fact I picked up yesterday. An eclipse happens somewhere on
earth every 18 months. The earth is 73% water and most eclipse occur
where people are not. You need to get a boat to fix you problem ;-))
Janet US

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A boat eh?? Hmm I think we might be just a wee bit past that now )))


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On 2017-08-22 9:30 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:51:01 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-08-21 5:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/21/2017 7:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "U.S. Janet B."Â* wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:45:19 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 08:11:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The path of totality is extremely close to us but we don't want to get
>>>>>> caught up in the bizarre traffic.Â* Craters of the Moon is very close
>>>>>> and they are doing some wonderful programs on eclipse day.Â* The
>>>>>> viewing would be wonderful from out there but it is expected that the
>>>>>> roads will be parked on both sides of the highway and stopped traffic
>>>>>> in the driving lanes.Â* I'm not young enough for all that anymore.Â* I
>>>>>> would stay home and just stand out in the street but we are surrounded
>>>>>> by mature trees and while we get some sunlight, we don't actually see
>>>>>> the sun this time of year.Â* I think we are going to the fairgrounds.
>>>>>> They have special admission for The Fair prior to the eclipse and free
>>>>>> approved glasses. (we have our glasses already)Â* Anyway, we can look
>>>>>> around the Fair knowing it won't be too hot to go because the sun
>>>>>> mostly won't be shining full bore.Â* How about you?Â* Going somewhere
>>>>>> special or eclipse party or just watch on TV?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time.Â* I
>>>>> didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.Â* That's the extent of my
>>>>> eclipse celebration, which I had planned on not celebrating at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really don't think it deserves all the hoopla it's getting.
>>>>> Bah humbug.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>> sour grapes because you are so far out of the zone?
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> It is hopeless here.Â* Anything like that is always hidden behind heavy
>>>> cloud
>>>>
>>>> It must be wonderful to actually see what is going on up there
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The cool thing was a bunch of NASA scientists in a commercial jet at
>>> 40,000 feet watching and filming it out the airplane windows!Â* I saw
>>> those images on TV.Â* They were all in awe even though they spend a lot
>>> of time looking at phenomena like this around the globe.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> Apparently Trump looked at the sun directly, without protection. He
>> obviously thought it safe since he thinks the sun shines out of his arse!

>
> Just goes to absolutely prove what he thinks of science and scientific
> facts. In fact, his pick for the top USDA Science advisor is a
> former talk show host who proclaims that giving LGBT rights will
> result in legalized pedophilia.
> Janet US
>

His latest Tweet courtesy the Daily Telegraph:
"Just seen loser sun get blocked by tiny moon.
#Fake night
#Sad."


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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 11:04:01 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-08-22 9:30 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:51:01 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-08-21 5:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 8/21/2017 7:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> "U.S. Janet B."* wrote in message
>>>>> news >>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:45:19 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 08:11:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The path of totality is extremely close to us but we don't want to get
>>>>>>> caught up in the bizarre traffic.* Craters of the Moon is very close
>>>>>>> and they are doing some wonderful programs on eclipse day.* The
>>>>>>> viewing would be wonderful from out there but it is expected that the
>>>>>>> roads will be parked on both sides of the highway and stopped traffic
>>>>>>> in the driving lanes.* I'm not young enough for all that anymore.* I
>>>>>>> would stay home and just stand out in the street but we are surrounded
>>>>>>> by mature trees and while we get some sunlight, we don't actually see
>>>>>>> the sun this time of year.* I think we are going to the fairgrounds.
>>>>>>> They have special admission for The Fair prior to the eclipse and free
>>>>>>> approved glasses. (we have our glasses already)* Anyway, we can look
>>>>>>> around the Fair knowing it won't be too hot to go because the sun
>>>>>>> mostly won't be shining full bore.* How about you?* Going somewhere
>>>>>>> special or eclipse party or just watch on TV?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time.* I
>>>>>> didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.* That's the extent of my
>>>>>> eclipse celebration, which I had planned on not celebrating at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really don't think it deserves all the hoopla it's getting.
>>>>>> Bah humbug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> sour grapes because you are so far out of the zone?
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> It is hopeless here.* Anything like that is always hidden behind heavy
>>>>> cloud
>>>>>
>>>>> It must be wonderful to actually see what is going on up there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The cool thing was a bunch of NASA scientists in a commercial jet at
>>>> 40,000 feet watching and filming it out the airplane windows!* I saw
>>>> those images on TV.* They were all in awe even though they spend a lot
>>>> of time looking at phenomena like this around the globe.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Apparently Trump looked at the sun directly, without protection. He
>>> obviously thought it safe since he thinks the sun shines out of his arse!

>>
>> Just goes to absolutely prove what he thinks of science and scientific
>> facts. In fact, his pick for the top USDA Science advisor is a
>> former talk show host who proclaims that giving LGBT rights will
>> result in legalized pedophilia.
>> Janet US
>>

>His latest Tweet courtesy the Daily Telegraph:
>"Just seen loser sun get blocked by tiny moon.
>#Fake night
>#Sad."


You crack me up -- husband is still snorting over that comment and the
previous arse one.
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On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 7:04:07 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> On 2017-08-22 9:30 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:51:01 -0600, graham > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2017-08-21 5:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>> On 8/21/2017 7:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>> "U.S. Janet B."Â* wrote in message
> >>>> news > >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:45:19 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 08:11:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The path of totality is extremely close to us but we don't want to get
> >>>>>> caught up in the bizarre traffic.Â* Craters of the Moon is very close
> >>>>>> and they are doing some wonderful programs on eclipse day.Â* The
> >>>>>> viewing would be wonderful from out there but it is expected that the
> >>>>>> roads will be parked on both sides of the highway and stopped traffic
> >>>>>> in the driving lanes.Â* I'm not young enough for all that anymore.Â* I
> >>>>>> would stay home and just stand out in the street but we are surrounded
> >>>>>> by mature trees and while we get some sunlight, we don't actually see
> >>>>>> the sun this time of year.Â* I think we are going to the fairgrounds.
> >>>>>> They have special admission for The Fair prior to the eclipse and free
> >>>>>> approved glasses. (we have our glasses already)Â* Anyway, we can look
> >>>>>> around the Fair knowing it won't be too hot to go because the sun
> >>>>>> mostly won't be shining full bore.Â* How about you?Â* Going somewhere
> >>>>>> special or eclipse party or just watch on TV?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time.Â* I
> >>>>> didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.Â* That's the extent of my
> >>>>> eclipse celebration, which I had planned on not celebrating at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I really don't think it deserves all the hoopla it's getting.
> >>>>> Bah humbug.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -sw
> >>>>
> >>>> sour grapes because you are so far out of the zone?
> >>>> Janet US
> >>>>
> >>>> ===
> >>>>
> >>>> It is hopeless here.Â* Anything like that is always hidden behind heavy
> >>>> cloud
> >>>>
> >>>> It must be wonderful to actually see what is going on up there
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> The cool thing was a bunch of NASA scientists in a commercial jet at
> >>> 40,000 feet watching and filming it out the airplane windows!Â* I saw
> >>> those images on TV.Â* They were all in awe even though they spend a lot
> >>> of time looking at phenomena like this around the globe.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> Apparently Trump looked at the sun directly, without protection. He
> >> obviously thought it safe since he thinks the sun shines out of his arse!

> >
> > Just goes to absolutely prove what he thinks of science and scientific
> > facts. In fact, his pick for the top USDA Science advisor is a
> > former talk show host who proclaims that giving LGBT rights will
> > result in legalized pedophilia.
> > Janet US
> >

> His latest Tweet courtesy the Daily Telegraph:
> "Just seen loser sun get blocked by tiny moon.
> #Fake night
> #Sad."


Yes, so sad. The sun is a loser.

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On 2017-08-22 11:49 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 11:04:01 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-08-22 9:30 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:51:01 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-08-21 5:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 8/21/2017 7:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> "U.S. Janet B."Â* wrote in message
>>>>>> news >>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:45:19 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 08:11:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The path of totality is extremely close to us but we don't want to get
>>>>>>>> caught up in the bizarre traffic.Â* Craters of the Moon is very close
>>>>>>>> and they are doing some wonderful programs on eclipse day.Â* The
>>>>>>>> viewing would be wonderful from out there but it is expected that the
>>>>>>>> roads will be parked on both sides of the highway and stopped traffic
>>>>>>>> in the driving lanes.Â* I'm not young enough for all that anymore.Â* I
>>>>>>>> would stay home and just stand out in the street but we are surrounded
>>>>>>>> by mature trees and while we get some sunlight, we don't actually see
>>>>>>>> the sun this time of year.Â* I think we are going to the fairgrounds.
>>>>>>>> They have special admission for The Fair prior to the eclipse and free
>>>>>>>> approved glasses. (we have our glasses already)Â* Anyway, we can look
>>>>>>>> around the Fair knowing it won't be too hot to go because the sun
>>>>>>>> mostly won't be shining full bore.Â* How about you?Â* Going somewhere
>>>>>>>> special or eclipse party or just watch on TV?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time.Â* I
>>>>>>> didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.Â* That's the extent of my
>>>>>>> eclipse celebration, which I had planned on not celebrating at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really don't think it deserves all the hoopla it's getting.
>>>>>>> Bah humbug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sour grapes because you are so far out of the zone?
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is hopeless here.Â* Anything like that is always hidden behind heavy
>>>>>> cloud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It must be wonderful to actually see what is going on up there
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The cool thing was a bunch of NASA scientists in a commercial jet at
>>>>> 40,000 feet watching and filming it out the airplane windows!Â* I saw
>>>>> those images on TV.Â* They were all in awe even though they spend a lot
>>>>> of time looking at phenomena like this around the globe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Apparently Trump looked at the sun directly, without protection. He
>>>> obviously thought it safe since he thinks the sun shines out of his arse!
>>>
>>> Just goes to absolutely prove what he thinks of science and scientific
>>> facts. In fact, his pick for the top USDA Science advisor is a
>>> former talk show host who proclaims that giving LGBT rights will
>>> result in legalized pedophilia.
>>> Janet US
>>>

>> His latest Tweet courtesy the Daily Telegraph:
>> "Just seen loser sun get blocked by tiny moon.
>> #Fake night
>> #Sad."

>
> You crack me up -- husband is still snorting over that comment and the
> previous arse one.
> Janet US
>

I've e-mailed you a cartoon:-)
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On 8/22/2017 11:49 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 11:04:01 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-08-22 9:30 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:51:01 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-08-21 5:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 8/21/2017 7:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> "U.S. Janet B."Â* wrote in message
>>>>>> news >>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:45:19 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 08:11:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The path of totality is extremely close to us but we don't want to get
>>>>>>>> caught up in the bizarre traffic.Â* Craters of the Moon is very close
>>>>>>>> and they are doing some wonderful programs on eclipse day.Â* The
>>>>>>>> viewing would be wonderful from out there but it is expected that the
>>>>>>>> roads will be parked on both sides of the highway and stopped traffic
>>>>>>>> in the driving lanes.Â* I'm not young enough for all that anymore.Â* I
>>>>>>>> would stay home and just stand out in the street but we are surrounded
>>>>>>>> by mature trees and while we get some sunlight, we don't actually see
>>>>>>>> the sun this time of year.Â* I think we are going to the fairgrounds.
>>>>>>>> They have special admission for The Fair prior to the eclipse and free
>>>>>>>> approved glasses. (we have our glasses already)Â* Anyway, we can look
>>>>>>>> around the Fair knowing it won't be too hot to go because the sun
>>>>>>>> mostly won't be shining full bore.Â* How about you?Â* Going somewhere
>>>>>>>> special or eclipse party or just watch on TV?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time.Â* I
>>>>>>> didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.Â* That's the extent of my
>>>>>>> eclipse celebration, which I had planned on not celebrating at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really don't think it deserves all the hoopla it's getting.
>>>>>>> Bah humbug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sour grapes because you are so far out of the zone?
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is hopeless here.Â* Anything like that is always hidden behind heavy
>>>>>> cloud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It must be wonderful to actually see what is going on up there
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The cool thing was a bunch of NASA scientists in a commercial jet at
>>>>> 40,000 feet watching and filming it out the airplane windows!Â* I saw
>>>>> those images on TV.Â* They were all in awe even though they spend a lot
>>>>> of time looking at phenomena like this around the globe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Apparently Trump looked at the sun directly, without protection. He
>>>> obviously thought it safe since he thinks the sun shines out of his arse!
>>>
>>> Just goes to absolutely prove what he thinks of science and scientific
>>> facts. In fact, his pick for the top USDA Science advisor is a
>>> former talk show host who proclaims that giving LGBT rights will
>>> result in legalized pedophilia.
>>> Janet US
>>>

>> His latest Tweet courtesy the Daily Telegraph:
>> "Just seen loser sun get blocked by tiny moon.
>> #Fake night
>> #Sad."

>
> You crack me up -- husband is still snorting over that comment and the
> previous arse one.
> Janet US
>


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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 06:14:59 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 22:23:47 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:57:33 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>> We saw it on tv, but not the same as being there.
>>>>>
>>>>>One thing I really enjoyed about it was that everyone everywhere seemed
>>>>>to
>>>>>be enjoying it, no bitching about everyday problems etc. It was nice for
>>>>>a
>>>>>change.
>>>>
>>>> Even here?
>>>
>>>
>>>Everywhere they showed pics of it.

>>
>> No, I meant did the bitching even stop in rfc.

>
>
>I think it pretty much went well on the subject of the eclipse, not as good
>as on TV, but not too bad.





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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:30:47 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
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>On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:51:01 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2017-08-21 5:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/21/2017 7:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "U.S. Janet B."* wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>
>>>> sour grapes because you are so far out of the zone?
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> It is hopeless here.* Anything like that is always hidden behind heavy
>>>> cloud
>>>>
>>>> It must be wonderful to actually see what is going on up there
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The cool thing was a bunch of NASA scientists in a commercial jet at
>>> 40,000 feet watching and filming it out the airplane windows!* I saw
>>> those images on TV.* They were all in awe even though they spend a lot
>>> of time looking at phenomena like this around the globe.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>Apparently Trump looked at the sun directly, without protection. He
>>obviously thought it safe since he thinks the sun shines out of his arse!

>
>Just goes to absolutely prove what he thinks of science and scientific
>facts. In fact, his pick for the top USDA Science advisor is a
>former talk show host who proclaims that giving LGBT rights will
>result in legalized pedophilia.


He'll probably fire him soon anyway.
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Sqwertz wrote:
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> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 10:41:42 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >> I just got done watching Dolores Claiborne for the first time. I
> >> didn't even know it was an eclipse movie.

> >
> > I started to watch that just last week. Was it worth watching?
> > I watched the first part until she went to see her mother.
> > I finally got bored and changed channels. Maybe it was a
> > good movie though? I also didn't know that it was an eclipse
> > movie.

>
> I had to start it twice before it got interesting. Yes. it's worth
> watching. Takes 20+ minutes to get going.
>
> Most anything rated over 7 on IMDB is sort watching unless it's based
> on some Marvel comic or the description contains "Cabin".


I'll look for "Delores Claiborne" to be aired again.
As far as movies with the name "cabin" in the title,
did you ever watch "Cabin in the Woods?"
Started out as a blah horror/killer movie but morphed into
a Twilight Zone movie near the end. I liked that one.
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