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This is from a book published in the UK in 1910:

.... a fellow names a new cereal after himself, and advertises it by
saying that something of the kind was once the chief food of the
American Indians, "one of the most stalwart races of men the world has
ever produced"; their women, he says, "ground it laboriously in hollowed
stones and cooked it in a rude manner," and yet, notwithstanding this
laborious grinding and rude cooking, the corn, "together with meat taken
in the chase, sustained a race of muscular giants."

Does anyone know what he is talking about? I am pretty sure it would
have been commonplace in the USA and the UK 100 yrs ago, the cereal
advertised as Indian food, but I haven't been able to track it down and
nail the reference.

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I think some of the oldest brands of cereal are Post Toasties, Kelloggs Cornflakes, Shredded Wheat and oringinal Grape Nuts. Also Quaker oats of course and Cream of Wheat.
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On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 11:43:40 AM UTC-10, TimW wrote:
> This is from a book published in the UK in 1910:
>
> ... a fellow names a new cereal after himself, and advertises it by
> saying that something of the kind was once the chief food of the
> American Indians, "one of the most stalwart races of men the world has
> ever produced"; their women, he says, "ground it laboriously in hollowed
> stones and cooked it in a rude manner," and yet, notwithstanding this
> laborious grinding and rude cooking, the corn, "together with meat taken
> in the chase, sustained a race of muscular giants."
>
> Does anyone know what he is talking about? I am pretty sure it would
> have been commonplace in the USA and the UK 100 yrs ago, the cereal
> advertised as Indian food, but I haven't been able to track it down and
> nail the reference.
>
> Tim W


Kellog's Corn Flakes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_flakes
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I sometimes eat Cornchex because it has a lot of zeaxanthin for the eyes.
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"TimW" > wrote in message
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> This is from a book published in the UK in 1910:
>
> ... a fellow names a new cereal after himself, and advertises it by saying
> that something of the kind was once the chief food of the American
> Indians, "one of the most stalwart races of men the world has ever
> produced"; their women, he says, "ground it laboriously in hollowed stones
> and cooked it in a rude manner," and yet, notwithstanding this laborious
> grinding and rude cooking, the corn, "together with meat taken in the
> chase, sustained a race of muscular giants."
>
> Does anyone know what he is talking about? I am pretty sure it would have
> been commonplace in the USA and the UK 100 yrs ago, the cereal advertised
> as Indian food, but I haven't been able to track it down and nail the
> reference.
>
> Tim W


Probably cornmeal.



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On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 11:43:40 AM UTC-10, TimW wrote:
> This is from a book published in the UK in 1910:
>
> ... a fellow names a new cereal after himself, and advertises it by
> saying that something of the kind was once the chief food of the
> American Indians, "one of the most stalwart races of men the world has
> ever produced"; their women, he says, "ground it laboriously in hollowed
> stones and cooked it in a rude manner," and yet, notwithstanding this
> laborious grinding and rude cooking, the corn, "together with meat taken
> in the chase, sustained a race of muscular giants."
>
> Does anyone know what he is talking about? I am pretty sure it would
> have been commonplace in the USA and the UK 100 yrs ago, the cereal
> advertised as Indian food, but I haven't been able to track it down and
> nail the reference.
>
> Tim W


Correction: That would be Charles William Post's Post Toasties. My guess is that his sales pitch was a complete fantasy. These ready to eat breakfast cereals would change American breakfasts. Now people didn't have to spend a whole lot of time cooking up whole grain cereals in the morning. A quick, easy to digest, and nutritious, meal was the goal of these revolutionary products. Well, it was also hoped that this health food would discourage masturbation.

Post Toasties was a knock-off of the cornflake product invented by the Kellogg brothers to serve at their Battle Creek Sanitarium. It was popular with the patients and the brothers got the idea to patent their method of corn flake production and sell it outside their sanitarium. Once their patent ran out, everybody was making cornflakes and the rest is history.

https://books.google.com/books?id=7m...AJ&pg=RA3-PA30

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On 8/27/2017 9:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> religious groups protested


Keep flailing, fatty.

And lay off the gays, you jerkwad.


Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
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On 8/27/2017 11:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:43:32 +0100, TimW wrote:
>
>> This is from a book published in the UK in 1910:
>>
>> ... a fellow names a new cereal after himself, and advertises it by
>> saying that something of the kind was once the chief food of the
>> American Indians, "one of the most stalwart races of men the world has
>> ever produced"; their women, he says, "ground it laboriously in hollowed
>> stones and cooked it in a rude manner," and yet, notwithstanding this
>> laborious grinding and rude cooking, the corn, "together with meat taken
>> in the chase, sustained a race of muscular giants."
>>
>> Does anyone know what he is talking about? I am pretty sure it would
>> have been commonplace in the USA and the UK 100 yrs ago, the cereal
>> advertised as Indian food, but I haven't been able to track it down and
>> nail the reference.

>
> The original cereal was created by C.W. post and called Elijah's
> Manna. He allegedly stole the idea of these corn flakes from John
> Harvey Kellogg and beat Kellogg to the retail market and naming his
> company the Postum Cereal Company of Battle Creek.
>
> However, religious groups protested the use and likeness of Elijah and
> it lead to a decrease in sales, which allowed Kellogg's Corn Flakes to
> become the premiere brand and long-time American favorite.
>
> In response to the religious uproar and boycott, in 1908 C.W Post
> RENAMED THE CEREAL AFTER HIMSELF, and called it "Post Toasties".
>

First thing I thought of was Kellogg's corn flakes. Although served
with meat taken in the chase threw me. My grandpa used to eat "Post
Toasties" LOL

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I think yellow cornmeal cooked like oats would be very healthy but it'd be harder to cook w/o it getting lumpy, remember Lumpy from the dobie gillis show?
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 12:37:18 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/27/2017 11:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:43:32 +0100, TimW wrote:
>>
>>> This is from a book published in the UK in 1910:
>>>
>>> ... a fellow names a new cereal after himself, and advertises it by
>>> saying that something of the kind was once the chief food of the
>>> American Indians, "one of the most stalwart races of men the world has
>>> ever produced"; their women, he says, "ground it laboriously in hollowed
>>> stones and cooked it in a rude manner," and yet, notwithstanding this
>>> laborious grinding and rude cooking, the corn, "together with meat taken
>>> in the chase, sustained a race of muscular giants."
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what he is talking about? I am pretty sure it would
>>> have been commonplace in the USA and the UK 100 yrs ago, the cereal
>>> advertised as Indian food, but I haven't been able to track it down and
>>> nail the reference.

>>
>> The original cereal was created by C.W. post and called Elijah's
>> Manna. He allegedly stole the idea of these corn flakes from John
>> Harvey Kellogg and beat Kellogg to the retail market and naming his
>> company the Postum Cereal Company of Battle Creek.
>>
>> However, religious groups protested the use and likeness of Elijah and
>> it lead to a decrease in sales, which allowed Kellogg's Corn Flakes to
>> become the premiere brand and long-time American favorite.
>>
>> In response to the religious uproar and boycott, in 1908 C.W Post
>> RENAMED THE CEREAL AFTER HIMSELF, and called it "Post Toasties".
>>

>First thing I thought of was Kellogg's corn flakes. Although served
>with meat taken in the chase threw me. My grandpa used to eat "Post
>Toasties" LOL
>
>Jill


This was always my favorite and still is:
https://www.amazon.com/Shredded-Whea.../dp/B0035DZNUQ


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oops, Lumpy was on leave it to beaver not dobie gillis.
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On 8/28/2017 4:39 PM, wrote:
> oops, Lumpy was on leave it to beaver not dobie gillis.
>


Dobie had Maynard Krebbs/Gilligan.
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Bob Denver lived in WV a long time before he died.
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>I think yellow cornmeal cooked like oats would be very healthy but it'd be
>harder to cook w/o it getting lumpy, remember Lumpy from the dobie gillis
>show?


No. But there was a Lumpy on Leave It To Beaver.

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I'd guess the guy that played Lumpy is dead now.


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On 27/08/17 22:43, TimW wrote:
> This is from a book published in the UK in 1910:
>
> ... a fellow names a new cereal after himself, and advertises it by
> saying that something of the kind was once the chief food of the
> American Indians, "one of the most stalwart races of men the world has
> ever produced"; their women, he says, "ground it laboriously in hollowed
> stones and cooked it in a rude manner," and yet, notwithstanding this
> laborious grinding and rude cooking, the corn, "together with meat taken
> in the chase, sustained a race of muscular giants."
>
> Does anyone know what he is talking about? I am pretty sure it would
> have been commonplace in the USA and the UK 100 yrs ago, the cereal
> advertised as Indian food, but I haven't been able to track it down and
> nail the reference.
>
> Tim W


Thanks all,

So my writer is referring to C W Post whose version of flaked corn was
initially called Elijah's Manna and renamed Post Toasties and the text
is from the advertising copy. That's what I needed to know.

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On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 16:41:35 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:

>On 8/28/2017 4:39 PM, wrote:
>> oops, Lumpy was on leave it to beaver not dobie gillis.
>>

>
>Dobie had Maynard Krebbs/Gilligan.


Maynard G. Krebs!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ma...f_Dobie_Gillis
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The guy that played Eddie Haskel on leave it to beaver is still alive.
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On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 5:43:40 PM UTC-4, TimW wrote:
> This is from a book published in the UK in 1910:
>
> ... a fellow names a new cereal after himself, and advertises it by
> saying that something of the kind was once the chief food of the
> American Indians, "one of the most stalwart races of men the world has
> ever produced"; their women, he says, "ground it laboriously in hollowed
> stones and cooked it in a rude manner," and yet, notwithstanding this
> laborious grinding and rude cooking, the corn, "together with meat taken
> in the chase, sustained a race of muscular giants."
>
> Does anyone know what he is talking about? I am pretty sure it would
> have been commonplace in the USA and the UK 100 yrs ago, the cereal
> advertised as Indian food, but I haven't been able to track it down and
> nail the reference.
>
> Tim W




Were Eddie Haskel and Lumpy both on leave it to beaver?


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On 8/29/2017 5:32 AM, Gary wrote:
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>> I'd guess the guy that played Lumpy is dead now.

>
> Died at age 71 four years ago.
>
http://people.com/celebrity/leave-it...-played-lumpy/
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The Donna Reed show and Mr Ed are on tv here now, I live in a time warp tho.
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> You mean you just eat it in those huge chunks? I always thought it was
> intended to be broken up in the cereal bowl. Still never liked it.


Someone's Killer Recipe [1]
=======================

2 Shredded Wheat (lrg) biscuits
4 pats cold salted butter (1/2-1 oz ea)
milk
honey

Put 2 pats of real salted butter on top of each full-sized Shredded
Wheat. Put 2 full-sized Shredded Wheat biscuits (w/ butter) under
broiler/salamander/etc until butter melts and biscuits are slightly
toasted, on top. Put biscuits in cereal bowl and pour whole milk over
biscuits to reduce temp, soften biscuits, and solidify butter. Add
honey over biscuits. Use spoon to break up biscuits (typically, six
pieces). Enjoy!

As large shredded wheat has become scarce on the shelf, I've eaten
this particular dish, less than I usta. Still ....occasionally, I'll
indulge. It's more like a dessert.

[1] Been eating this dish fer almost 60 yrs. I've even seen a woman
who's doctor recommended a similar recipe, only it subbed warm water
for cold milk and tossed the honey. 8|

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On 8/29/2017 1:18 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-08-29, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> You mean you just eat it in those huge chunks? I always thought it was
>> intended to be broken up in the cereal bowl. Still never liked it.

>
> Someone's Killer Recipe [1]
> =======================
>
> 2 Shredded Wheat (lrg) biscuits
> 4 pats cold salted butter (1/2-1 oz ea)
> milk
> honey
>
> Put 2 pats of real salted butter on top of each full-sized Shredded
> Wheat. Put 2 full-sized Shredded Wheat biscuits (w/ butter) under
> broiler/salamander/etc until butter melts and biscuits are slightly
> toasted, on top. Put biscuits in cereal bowl and pour whole milk over
> biscuits to reduce temp, soften biscuits, and solidify butter. Add
> honey over biscuits. Use spoon to break up biscuits (typically, six
> pieces). Enjoy!
>
> As large shredded wheat has become scarce on the shelf, I've eaten
> this particular dish, less than I usta. Still ....occasionally, I'll
> indulge. It's more like a dessert.
>
> [1] Been eating this dish fer almost 60 yrs. I've even seen a woman
> who's doctor recommended a similar recipe, only it subbed warm water
> for cold milk and tossed the honey. 8|
>
> nb
>

Sounds like something I wouldn't want. Like frosted shredded wheat.

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On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 2:20:59 PM UTC-4, Casa de Masa wrote:
> On 8/29/2017 9:40 AM, wrote:
> > The Donna Reed show and Mr Ed are on tv here now, I live in a time warp tho.
> >

> Beats the present hands down, doesn't it?


Maybe. I never wanted to be Donna Reed. I wanted to be
The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.

Cindy Hamilton


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Ever hear the song 57 channels and nothings on?
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>On 8/29/2017 11:59 AM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 10:56:38 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/28/2017 5:16 PM,
wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 12:37:18 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/27/2017 11:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In response to the religious uproar and boycott, in 1908 C.W Post
>>>>>> RENAMED THE CEREAL AFTER HIMSELF, and called it "Post Toasties".
>>>>>>
>>>>> First thing I thought of was Kellogg's corn flakes. Although served
>>>>> with meat taken in the chase threw me. My grandpa used to eat "Post
>>>>> Toasties" LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> This was always my favorite and still is:
>>>>
https://www.amazon.com/Shredded-Whea.../dp/B0035DZNUQ
>>>>
>>> Good for you. I never did like shredded wheat.

>>
>> I only like the original D cup size... I don't care for the texture of
>> the minis.
>>

>You mean you just eat it in those huge chunks? I always thought it was
>intended to be broken up in the cereal bowl. Still never liked it.


I soak a pair in milk to soften until I can cut them with a spoon.


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On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 11:42:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
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>On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 2:20:59 PM UTC-4, Casa de Masa wrote:
>> On 8/29/2017 9:40 AM, wrote:
>> > The Donna Reed show and Mr Ed are on tv here now, I live in a time warp tho.
>> >

>> Beats the present hands down, doesn't it?

>
>Maybe. I never wanted to be Donna Reed. I wanted to be
>The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


With or without the beauty mark?
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> > > The Donna Reed show and Mr Ed are on tv here now, I live in a
> > > time warp tho.
> > >

> > Beats the present hands down, doesn't it?

>
> Maybe. I never wanted to be Donna Reed. I wanted to be
> The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


I wanted to be Uhura, a female officer!

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Great grains with crunchy pecans is both tasty and healthy.


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On 8/29/2017 12:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 2:20:59 PM UTC-4, Casa de Masa wrote:
>> On 8/29/2017 9:40 AM, wrote:
>>> The Donna Reed show and Mr Ed are on tv here now, I live in a time warp tho.
>>>

>> Beats the present hands down, doesn't it?

>
> Maybe. I never wanted to be Donna Reed. I wanted to be
> The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


April Dancer?!

Wow.
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Bruuuuce!

He was right, give or take a few hundred.
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On 8/29/2017 3:13 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 2:20:59 PM UTC-4, Casa de Masa wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2017 9:40 AM, wrote:
>>>> The Donna Reed show and Mr Ed are on tv here now, I live in a
>>>> time warp tho.
>>>>
>>> Beats the present hands down, doesn't it?

>>
>> Maybe. I never wanted to be Donna Reed. I wanted to be
>> The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton

>
> I wanted to be Uhura, a female officer!
>

She was HOT!

But then so was Honey West!

(changing idioms)
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On 8/29/2017 4:36 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
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>
>> The Donna Reed show and Mr Ed are on tv here now, I live in a time
>> warp tho.
>>

>
> :-) My mother was very much Donna Reed in both personality and looks.
> I thought I was the luckiest kid in school. A lot of my friends
> thought so too.
>


Only thing cooler would be having Samantha from Bewitched as your Mom.

"Those kids are picking on me, put a spell on 'em Mom..."
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Donna Reed must be dead.
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