Leftovers for me tonight. Made penne and cheese for myself yesterday. No
real recipe. Just a white sauce with some onion and Tillamook medium cheddar
and black pepper. Yummy! Some peas on the side.

I likely won't be home tomorrow when husband will want to eat so will make a
pot of spaghetti and add some frozen meatballs and Italian cheese that needs
to be used up.

Bought some Rao's pasta to use for pasta salad in a day or three. Got more
stinking hot weather coming through. I am holding up but my rocks aren't! We
are painting rocks and leaving them throughout the community to brighten
people's days. I copied a slice of cake from the front of a Fred Meyer ad.
Came out perfect! But just now looked at it and a little piece of the paint
came off due to the heat. Have to go touch it up. I hope it was from the
white frosting part and not the cake because I had to custom blend that
color.

On 8/29/2017 9:05 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> We are painting rocks and leaving them throughout the community to
> brighten people's days.

Really?!???

You know stone cairns are uber-hip among hikers.


http://nurturestore.co.uk/stone-cairns-building-towers

"Casa de Masa" > wrote in message
news
> On 8/29/2017 9:05 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> We are painting rocks and leaving them throughout the community to
>> brighten people's days.
>
> Really?!???
>
> You know stone cairns are uber-hip among hikers.
>
>
> http://nurturestore.co.uk/stone-cairns-building-towers

Those are done here as well. As for the painted rocks. an autistic boy found
four of mine and thought it was a miracle. His mom made contact with me
through the Facebook group and said that he hoped to find another 6 We
hurried up and painted some more, finding out what time he would be going
through the park to ensure that he would find them. We didn't put 6 but 10!
He was over them moon! Mom put a video of him finding them. I plan to put a
few more out tomorrow. It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
boy might like.

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 9:40:26 AM UTC+1, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Casa de Masa" > wrote in message
> news:.aioe.org...
> > On 8/29/2017 9:05 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> We are painting rocks and leaving them throughout the community to
> >> brighten people's days.
> >
> > Really?!???
> >
> > You know stone cairns are uber-hip among hikers.
> >
> >
> > http://nurturestore.co.uk/stone-cairns-building-towers
>
>
Stone minions-just need blue and yellow?
or insects,fruit, owls or fish
Lovely idea of yours btw
Mimsy

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
> boy might like.

If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.

Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
colors will be a hit.

PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
neighborhood doing that.

Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
were sleeping all day.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>> boy might like.
>
> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>
> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
> colors will be a hit.
>
> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
> neighborhood doing that.

Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>
> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
> were sleeping all day.
>
>

Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
Dried that fast.

Julie Bove wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>>> boy might like.
>>
>> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>>
>> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
>> colors will be a hit.
>>
>> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
>> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
>> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
>> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
>> neighborhood doing that.
>
>Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>>
>> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
>> were sleeping all day.
>>
>>
>
>Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
>paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
>Dried that fast.

Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
quickly became cool to the touch.
I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
new metalic copper:
https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
The dwarf will be by saying my nice barn light is something
unprintable, no, it won't fit up the dwarf's butt:
https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
model of T Rex next to that tree.
https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/

On 8/30/2017 3:44 PM, wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>>>> boy might like.
>>>
>>> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>>>
>>> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
>>> colors will be a hit.
>>>
>>> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
>>> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
>>> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
>>> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
>>> neighborhood doing that.
>>
>> Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>>>
>>> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
>>> were sleeping all day.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
>> paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
>> Dried that fast.
>
> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
> quickly became cool to the touch.
> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
> new metalic copper:
> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk
That looks superb!

> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/

Feh, a little worn, maybe next season.

> The dwarf will be by saying my nice barn light is something
> unprintable, no, it won't fit up the dwarf's butt:
> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/

But we must try, for Sqwerty's sake!

> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
> model of T Rex next to that tree.
> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/

For a city boy you took to country life real well.

On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:15:55 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:

>On 8/30/2017 3:44 PM, wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>>>>> boy might like.
>>>>
>>>> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>>>>
>>>> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
>>>> colors will be a hit.
>>>>
>>>> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
>>>> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
>>>> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
>>>> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
>>>> neighborhood doing that.
>>>
>>> Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>>>>
>>>> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
>>>> were sleeping all day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
>>> paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
>>> Dried that fast.
>>
>> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>> quickly became cool to the touch.
>> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>> new metalic copper:
>> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk
>That looks superb!
>
>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>
>Feh, a little worn, maybe next season.
>
>> The dwarf will be by saying my nice barn light is something
>> unprintable, no, it won't fit up the dwarf's butt:
>> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>
>But we must try, for Sqwerty's sake!
>
>> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
>> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
>> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
>> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
>> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
>> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
>> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
>> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
>> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
>> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
>> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
>> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
>> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
>> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
>> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
>> model of T Rex next to that tree.
>> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/
>
>For a city boy you took to country life real well.

As a young child I spent a lot of time in the Catskills. I much
prefer it to big city life. And I don't consider suburbia living...
surburbia is the twilight zone

On 8/30/2017 6:56 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:15:55 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/2017 3:44 PM, wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>>>>>> boy might like.
>>>>>
>>>>> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
>>>>> colors will be a hit.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
>>>>> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
>>>>> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
>>>>> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
>>>>> neighborhood doing that.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
>>>>> were sleeping all day.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
>>>> paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
>>>> Dried that fast.
>>>
>>> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>>> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>>> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>>> quickly became cool to the touch.
>>> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>>> new metalic copper:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>>> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk
>> That looks superb!
>>
>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>>
>> Feh, a little worn, maybe next season.
>>
>>> The dwarf will be by saying my nice barn light is something
>>> unprintable, no, it won't fit up the dwarf's butt:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>>
>> But we must try, for Sqwerty's sake!
>>
>>> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
>>> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
>>> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
>>> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
>>> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
>>> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
>>> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
>>> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
>>> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
>>> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
>>> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
>>> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
>>> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
>>> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
>>> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
>>> model of T Rex next to that tree.
>>> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/
>>
>> For a city boy you took to country life real well.
>
> As a young child I spent a lot of time in the Catskills. I much
> prefer it to big city life. And I don't consider suburbia living...
> surburbia is the twilight zone
>

So very true.

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
> quickly became cool to the touch.
> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
> new metalic copper:
> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>
I don't have any type of tank in my yard but I think you did a
superb job with your painting.
>
> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>
I have a light like that at the back of my house up in the
eave like yours but mine is not mounted on a long arm like
that. It lights up my whole backyard that would otherwise
be absolutely pitch black.

The bulb has not burned out in the 10 years it's been up but
I have had to replace electronic eye twice. They're readily
available at Lowe's but for some reason Home Depot does not
stock them.

> wrote in message
...

> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
> model of T Rex next to that tree.
> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/

My sympathies to your wife, I hope she is OK.

Cheri

On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:44:12 -0400, wrote:

>My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
>tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
>had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
>destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
>girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
>new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
>started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
>I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
>times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
>waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
>the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
>to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
>burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
>happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
>Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
>model of T Rex next to that tree.
>https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/

As you were using your manly shovel, did you have your man bag under
your arm and your man bun on your head?

> wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>>>> boy might like.
>>>
>>> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>>>
>>> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
>>> colors will be a hit.
>>>
>>> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
>>> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
>>> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
>>> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
>>> neighborhood doing that.
>>
>>Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>>>
>>> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
>>> were sleeping all day.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
>>paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
>>Dried that fast.
>
> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
> quickly became cool to the touch.
> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
> new metalic copper:
> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
> The dwarf will be by saying my nice barn light is something
> unprintable, no, it won't fit up the dwarf's butt:
> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
> model of T Rex next to that tree.
> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/

I own a half umbrella that sits in front of the sliding door. Does seem to
block the sun a teensy bit from getting in the window but doesn't do a think
in terms of cooling except perhaps as the sun is setting.

The rocks were not on the deck though but outside by the garage. We used
acrylics, nail polish and sealed with spray on Mod Podge.

wrote:
>
> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
> quickly became cool to the touch.
> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
> new metalic copper:

You bought that tank about a year ago or so. Were you not
planning to paint it right then? I thought you already painted
it.

> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:

My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
color.

A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank painted
dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry an egg on
that tank." Think, Sheldon.

On a very hot day, your tank explodes. No worries about your
house but it would take out your tractor shed and all the feral
cats living inside.

On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:

>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>
> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
> color.
>
> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank painted
> dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry an egg on
> that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>
Copper IS reflective dude, you think!

And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.

On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>> quickly became cool to the touch.
>> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>> new metalic copper:
>> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
>> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>>
>I don't have any type of tank in my yard but I think you did a
>superb job with your painting.

Rustoleum makes a fine product and I really like their new metalic
colors. I bought the tank and fittings from Home Depot, they had the
best price, the local fuel companys wanted four times the price and
set up was expensive... I installed and set it up myself. I ordered
the crank pump from Amazon. The same company makes electric pumps and
I considered one but they are expensive, about six times the price,
and I really don't mind cranking for about one minute to fill the
tractor's tank once a week. With the factory black it got very hot
outdoors, the new metalic paint reflects sunlight away so it doesn't
get nearly so hot... I'm considering a permanent sun screen on the
east side to shade the AM sun, the barn shades the PM sun. This past
winter I had a tarp over it to keep snow off.

>> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>>
>I have a light like that at the back of my house up in the
>eave like yours but mine is not mounted on a long arm like
>that. It lights up my whole backyard that would otherwise
>be absolutely pitch black.
>
>The bulb has not burned out in the 10 years it's been up but
>I have had to replace electronic eye twice. They're readily
>available at Lowe's but for some reason Home Depot does not
>stock them.

Depends what kind... an LED fixture can last more than 15 years...
some of the older gas filled bulbs are no longer made. The LED models
will save the price of the fixture in electicity within the firstfew
months. so when they finally die you'd be so far ahead it'd be no big
deal to buy a new fixture. Mine is an LED, the electronic eye turns
it on at dusk and off at dawn. I have the 70 Watt model, emits
tremendous light:
http://www.superiorlighting.com/70_W...101caal068.htm
Something to know about LED lighting, the fixture must be wired with
the proper polarity or there will be problems, could be why your
sensor isn't lasting. I had an electrician mount all my LED fixtures,
I've had no problems.... in the end it costs less to have electrical
work done correctly. The electrician I use is licensed and is a
Master Electrician. His rates are very fair, he charged $70 to
install that fixture, included all the wiring and installation... I
don't think I'd want to climb up there for $70 (about 30'). I don't
like those kind of heights.

On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:37:04 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>
>> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
>> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
>> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
>> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
>> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
>> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
>> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
>> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
>> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
>> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
>> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
>> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
>> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
>> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
>> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
>> model of T Rex next to that tree.
>> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/
>
>My sympathies to your wife, I hope she is OK.
>
>Cheri

Thank you. She is fine. She always forgets her bug spray... this was
not the first time. Her beekeeper friend forgot to bring her
beekeeper's suit.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:45:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>Gary wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>>>>> boy might like.
>>>>
>>>> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>>>>
>>>> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
>>>> colors will be a hit.
>>>>
>>>> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
>>>> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
>>>> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
>>>> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
>>>> neighborhood doing that.
>>>
>>>Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>>>>
>>>> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
>>>> were sleeping all day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
>>>paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
>>>Dried that fast.
>>
>> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>> quickly became cool to the touch.
>> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>> new metalic copper:
>> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>> The dwarf will be by saying my nice barn light is something
>> unprintable, no, it won't fit up the dwarf's butt:
>> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
>> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
>> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
>> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
>> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
>> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
>> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
>> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
>> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
>> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
>> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
>> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
>> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
>> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
>> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
>> model of T Rex next to that tree.
>> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/
>
>I own a half umbrella that sits in front of the sliding door. Does seem to
>block the sun a teensy bit from getting in the window but doesn't do a think
>in terms of cooling except perhaps as the sun is setting.
>
>The rocks were not on the deck though but outside by the garage. We used
>acrylics, nail polish and sealed with spray on Mod Podge.

I'd have found a shady spot, like under a tree, or *inside* the
garage.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 09:07:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>> quickly became cool to the touch.
>> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>> new metalic copper:
>
>You bought that tank about a year ago or so. Were you not
>planning to paint it right then? I thought you already painted
>it.

Weather wasn't cooperating, too wet, too cold, snow.

>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>
>My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>color.
>
>A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank painted
>dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry an egg on
>that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>
>On a very hot day, your tank explodes. No worries about your
>house but it would take out your tractor shed and all the feral
>cats living inside.

The tank is vented, and other than propane tanks no one
around here paints outside fuel tanks white. Everyone I asked
recommended the new Rustoleum metalics. My propane tank was white
when new but as it weathers the surface becomes a matte finnish, it's
rough so attracts schmutz... it would become hot in the sun. But it's
under a stand of spruce trees so it's well shaded but it's covered
with resinous sap that I gave up trying to remove. My diesel tank is
in the shade of the barn half the day and I intend to erect a low wall
on the other side, probably just a sheet of exterior plywood painted
yellow to match the barn, should be a very simple one day project...
doesn't need to go all the way to the ground as the tank is on legs
about a foot off the ground, I can hammer in a couple of metal fence
posts and attach the plywood. Wouldn't be difficult to attach a
hinged roof that I can fold out of the way if need be. Maybe I can
find someone to paint a mural on the plywood, a cute cow with huge
udders.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:32:32 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:

>On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>
>> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>> color.
>>
>> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank painted
>> dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry an egg on
>> that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>>
>Copper IS reflective dude, you think!
>
>And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.

That was my thinking... I didn't feel like seeing a giant roll of
Reynolds Wrap glaring back at me. I bought two quart cans, one gave a
good first coat. I used a cheap throw away brush. I'll get to the
second coat before winter. I liked the hammered copper best. Here's
the color chart for Rustoleum Hammered:
http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...rust/hammered/

Sheldon wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
> >> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
> >> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
> >> quickly became cool to the touch.
> >> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
> >> new metalic copper:
> >> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
> >> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
> >> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
> >>
> >I don't have any type of tank in my yard but I think you did a
> >superb job with your painting.
>
> Rustoleum makes a fine product and I really like their new metalic
> colors. I bought the tank and fittings from Home Depot, they had the
> best price, the local fuel companys wanted four times the price and
> set up was expensive... I installed and set it up myself. I ordered
> the crank pump from Amazon. The same company makes electric pumps and
> I considered one but they are expensive, about six times the price,
> and I really don't mind cranking for about one minute to fill the
> tractor's tank once a week. With the factory black it got very hot
> outdoors, the new metalic paint reflects sunlight away so it doesn't
> get nearly so hot... I'm considering a permanent sun screen on the
> east side to shade the AM sun, the barn shades the PM sun. This past
> winter I had a tarp over it to keep snow off.
>
> >> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/



Your tank has better digs than Steve Sqwertz, or John Kuthe, lol...

In any case, nice work, very neat and clean - looking...


--
Best
Greg

On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >The bulb has not burned out in the 10 years it's been up but
> >I have had to replace electronic eye twice. They're readily
> >available at Lowe's but for some reason Home Depot does not
> >stock them.
>
> Depends what kind... an LED fixture can last more than 15 years...
> some of the older gas filled bulbs are no longer made. The LED models
> will save the price of the fixture in electricity within the first few
> months. so when they finally die you'd be so far ahead it'd be no big
> deal to buy a new fixture. Mine is an LED, the electronic eye turns
> it on at dusk and off at dawn. I have the 70 Watt model, emits
> tremendous light:
> http://www.superiorlighting.com/70_W...101caal068.htm
>
I *think* mine is a sodium vapor, but don't quote me.
>
> Something to know about LED lighting, the fixture must be wired with
> the proper polarity or there will be problems, could be why your
> sensor isn't lasting. I had an electrician mount all my LED fixtures,
> I've had no problems.... in the end it costs less to have electrical
> work done correctly. The electrician I use is licensed and is a
> Master Electrician. His rates are very fair, he charged $70 to
> install that fixture, included all the wiring and installation... I
> don't think I'd want to climb up there for $70 (about 30'). I don't
> like those kind of heights.
>
When I had my present fixture installed it was when I was having a
an addition built onto the back of my house. It was a licensed
electrician that did all the wiring plus he wired this outdoor
light.

On 8/31/2017 12:01 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:32:32 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>>
>>> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>>> color.
>>>
>>> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>>> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>>> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank painted
>>> dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry an egg on
>>> that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>>>
>> Copper IS reflective dude, you think!
>>
>> And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.
>
> That was my thinking... I didn't feel like seeing a giant roll of
> Reynolds Wrap glaring back at me. I bought two quart cans, one gave a
> good first coat. I used a cheap throw away brush. I'll get to the
> second coat before winter. I liked the hammered copper best. Here's
> the color chart for Rustoleum Hammered:
> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...rust/hammered/
>

So I do like their hammered silver, much nicer than the old style spray
paint.

And like they say - it covers scratches and dings well.

But that copper is just darned eye-catching.

On 8/31/2017 6:51 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 31 Aug 2017 02:32:27p, Casa de Masa told us...
>
>> On 8/31/2017 12:01 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:32:32 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>>>>
>>>>> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>>>>> color.
>>>>>
>>>>> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>>>>> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>>>>> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank
>>>>> painted dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry
>>>>> an egg on that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>>>>>
>>>> Copper IS reflective dude, you think!
>>>>
>>>> And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.
>>>
>>> That was my thinking... I didn't feel like seeing a giant roll of
>>> Reynolds Wrap glaring back at me. I bought two quart cans, one
>>> gave a good first coat. I used a cheap throw away brush. I'll
>>> get to the second coat before winter. I liked the hammered
>>> copper best. Here's the color chart for Rustoleum Hammered:
>>> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...ands/stops-rus
>>> t/ham mered/
>>>
>>
>> So I do like their hammered silver, much nicer than the old style
>> spray paint.
>>
>> And like they say - it covers scratches and dings well.
>>
>> But that copper is just darned eye-catching.
>>
>
> I've ofaten seen in the southern US where people have buried tanks of
> this size with only the access cap exposed above soil level and hard
> copper tubing buried from the tank into the house.
>
>
>
I hope that didn't happen in Houston...

:-(

Those poor people.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Ding - Dong Daddy
> wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>> >> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>> >> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>> >> quickly became cool to the touch.
>> >> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>> >> new metalic copper:
>> >> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>> >> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
>> >> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>> >>
>> >I don't have any type of tank in my yard but I think you did a
>> >superb job with your painting.
>>
>> Rustoleum makes a fine product and I really like their new metalic
>> colors. I bought the tank and fittings from Home Depot, they had the
>> best price, the local fuel companys wanted four times the price and
>> set up was expensive... I installed and set it up myself. I ordered
>> the crank pump from Amazon. The same company makes electric pumps and
>> I considered one but they are expensive, about six times the price,
>> and I really don't mind cranking for about one minute to fill the
>> tractor's tank once a week. With the factory black it got very hot
>> outdoors, the new metalic paint reflects sunlight away so it doesn't
>> get nearly so hot... I'm considering a permanent sun screen on the
>> east side to shade the AM sun, the barn shades the PM sun. This past
>> winter I had a tarp over it to keep snow off.
>>
>> >> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>
>
>
>Your tank has better digs than Steve Sqwertz, or John Kuthe, lol...
>
>In any case, nice work, very neat and clean - looking...

Kuthie is still renting a hovel from a Chinese, he bought nothing. I'm
pretty certain the dwarf rents his hovel too.

On 8/31/2017 8:51 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 31 Aug 2017 02:32:27p, Casa de Masa told us...
>
>> On 8/31/2017 12:01 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:32:32 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>>>>
>>>>> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>>>>> color.
>>>>>
>>>>> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>>>>> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>>>>> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank
>>>>> painted dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry
>>>>> an egg on that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>>>>>
>>>> Copper IS reflective dude, you think!
>>>>
>>>> And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.
>>>
>>> That was my thinking... I didn't feel like seeing a giant roll of
>>> Reynolds Wrap glaring back at me. I bought two quart cans, one
>>> gave a good first coat. I used a cheap throw away brush. I'll
>>> get to the second coat before winter. I liked the hammered
>>> copper best. Here's the color chart for Rustoleum Hammered:
>>> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...ands/stops-rus
>>> t/ham mered/
>>>
>>
>> So I do like their hammered silver, much nicer than the old style
>> spray paint.
>>
>> And like they say - it covers scratches and dings well.
>>
>> But that copper is just darned eye-catching.
>>
>
> I've ofaten seen in the southern US where people have buried tanks of
> this size with only the access cap exposed above soil level and hard
> copper tubing buried from the tank into the house.
>
>
>
With new regulations it is not so easy to do now. Plenty of those tanks
are being dug up and any contaminated soil has to be removed, etc.

On 8/31/2017 7:41 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/31/2017 8:51 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 31 Aug 2017 02:32:27p, Casa de Masa told us...
>>
>>> On 8/31/2017 12:01 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:32:32 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>>>>>> color.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>>>>>> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>>>>>> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank
>>>>>> painted dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry
>>>>>> an egg on that tank."Â* Think, Sheldon.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Copper IS reflective dude, you think!
>>>>>
>>>>> And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.
>>>>
>>>> That was my thinking... I didn't feel like seeing a giant roll of
>>>> Reynolds Wrap glaring back at me.Â* I bought two quart cans, one
>>>> gave a good first coat.Â* I used a cheap throw away brush.Â*Â* I'll
>>>> get to the second coat before winter.Â* I liked the hammered
>>>> copper best.Â* Here's the color chart for Rustoleum Hammered:
>>>> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...ands/stops-rus
>>>> t/ham mered/
>>>>
>>>
>>> So I do like their hammered silver, much nicer than the old style
>>> spray paint.
>>>
>>> And like they say - it covers scratches and dings well.
>>>
>>> But that copper is just darned eye-catching.
>>>
>>
>> I've ofaten seen in the southern US where people have buried tanks of
>> this size with only the access cap exposed above soil level and hard
>> copper tubing buried from the tank into the house.
>>
>>
>>
> With new regulations it is not so easy to do now.Â* Plenty of those tanks
> are being dug up and any contaminated soil has to be removed, etc.


Plus in Arizona they have caliche, a hard-pan soil condition, which
bedevils the swimming pool contractors.

Houston has similar soil issues, which means this flooding will take
long time to go away.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:01:25 -0400, wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Ding - Dong Daddy
> wrote:
>
>>Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>>> >> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>>> >> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>>> >> quickly became cool to the touch.
>>> >> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>>> >> new metalic copper:
>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>>> >>
>>> >I don't have any type of tank in my yard but I think you did a
>>> >superb job with your painting.
>>>
>>> Rustoleum makes a fine product and I really like their new metalic
>>> colors. I bought the tank and fittings from Home Depot, they had the
>>> best price, the local fuel companys wanted four times the price and
>>> set up was expensive... I installed and set it up myself. I ordered
>>> the crank pump from Amazon. The same company makes electric pumps and
>>> I considered one but they are expensive, about six times the price,
>>> and I really don't mind cranking for about one minute to fill the
>>> tractor's tank once a week. With the factory black it got very hot
>>> outdoors, the new metalic paint reflects sunlight away so it doesn't
>>> get nearly so hot... I'm considering a permanent sun screen on the
>>> east side to shade the AM sun, the barn shades the PM sun. This past
>>> winter I had a tarp over it to keep snow off.
>>>
>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>>
>>
>>
>>Your tank has better digs than Steve Sqwertz, or John Kuthe, lol...
>>
>>In any case, nice work, very neat and clean - looking...
>
>Kuthie is still renting a hovel from a Chinese, he bought nothing. I'm
>pretty certain the dwarf rents his hovel too.

Whereas you own 100 properties and rent 1000 of them, right? And they
all fit in your dishwasher.

On 8/31/2017 8:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:01:25 -0400, wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Ding - Dong Daddy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>>>>>> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>>>>>> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>>>>>> quickly became cool to the touch.
>>>>>> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>>>>>> new metalic copper:
>>>>>> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>>>>>> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
>>>>>> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any type of tank in my yard but I think you did a
>>>>> superb job with your painting.
>>>>
>>>> Rustoleum makes a fine product and I really like their new metalic
>>>> colors. I bought the tank and fittings from Home Depot, they had the
>>>> best price, the local fuel companys wanted four times the price and
>>>> set up was expensive... I installed and set it up myself. I ordered
>>>> the crank pump from Amazon. The same company makes electric pumps and
>>>> I considered one but they are expensive, about six times the price,
>>>> and I really don't mind cranking for about one minute to fill the
>>>> tractor's tank once a week. With the factory black it got very hot
>>>> outdoors, the new metalic paint reflects sunlight away so it doesn't
>>>> get nearly so hot... I'm considering a permanent sun screen on the
>>>> east side to shade the AM sun, the barn shades the PM sun. This past
>>>> winter I had a tarp over it to keep snow off.
>>>>
>>>>>> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Your tank has better digs than Steve Sqwertz, or John Kuthe, lol...
>>>
>>> In any case, nice work, very neat and clean - looking...
>>
>> Kuthie is still renting a hovel from a Chinese, he bought nothing. I'm
>> pretty certain the dwarf rents his hovel too.
>
> Whereas you own 100 properties and rent 1000 of them, right? And they
> all fit in your dishwasher.
>

Why are you such a relentless assmunch?

"Casa de Masa" > wrote in message
news
> On 8/31/2017 12:01 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:32:32 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>>>
>>>> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>>>> color.
>>>>
>>>> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>>>> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>>>> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank painted
>>>> dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry an egg on
>>>> that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>>>>
>>> Copper IS reflective dude, you think!
>>>
>>> And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.
>>
>> That was my thinking... I didn't feel like seeing a giant roll of
>> Reynolds Wrap glaring back at me. I bought two quart cans, one gave a
>> good first coat. I used a cheap throw away brush. I'll get to the
>> second coat before winter. I liked the hammered copper best. Here's
>> the color chart for Rustoleum Hammered:
>> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...rust/hammered/
>>
>
> So I do like their hammered silver, much nicer than the old style spray
> paint.
>
> And like they say - it covers scratches and dings well.
>
> But that copper is just darned eye-catching.

I like the copper too.

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:45:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>Gary wrote:
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>>>>>> boy might like.
>>>>>
>>>>> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
>>>>> colors will be a hit.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
>>>>> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
>>>>> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
>>>>> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
>>>>> neighborhood doing that.
>>>>
>>>>Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
>>>>> were sleeping all day.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
>>>>paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
>>>>Dried that fast.
>>>
>>> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>>> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>>> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>>> quickly became cool to the touch.
>>> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>>> new metalic copper:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>>> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>>> The dwarf will be by saying my nice barn light is something
>>> unprintable, no, it won't fit up the dwarf's butt:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>>> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
>>> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
>>> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
>>> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
>>> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
>>> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
>>> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
>>> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
>>> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
>>> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
>>> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
>>> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
>>> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
>>> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
>>> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
>>> model of T Rex next to that tree.
>>> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/
>>
>>I own a half umbrella that sits in front of the sliding door. Does seem to
>>block the sun a teensy bit from getting in the window but doesn't do a
>>think
>>in terms of cooling except perhaps as the sun is setting.
>>
>>The rocks were not on the deck though but outside by the garage. We used
>>acrylics, nail polish and sealed with spray on Mod Podge.
>
> I'd have found a shady spot, like under a tree, or *inside* the
> garage.

No room inside the garage. I use the term garage loosely. It does have a big
door that goes up and down. It's not big enough to hold a car. Maybe a Smart
Car would fit. And it retains heat like an oven this time of year. Was out
painting again. It's chilly now but will get warm again and hotter still as
the days go on.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >The bulb has not burned out in the 10 years it's been up but
>> >I have had to replace electronic eye twice. They're readily
>> >available at Lowe's but for some reason Home Depot does not
>> >stock them.
>>
>> Depends what kind... an LED fixture can last more than 15 years...
>> some of the older gas filled bulbs are no longer made. The LED models
>> will save the price of the fixture in electricity within the first few
>> months. so when they finally die you'd be so far ahead it'd be no big
>> deal to buy a new fixture. Mine is an LED, the electronic eye turns
>> it on at dusk and off at dawn. I have the 70 Watt model, emits
>> tremendous light:
>> http://www.superiorlighting.com/70_W...101caal068.htm
>>
>I *think* mine is a sodium vapor, but don't quote me.
>>
>> Something to know about LED lighting, the fixture must be wired with
>> the proper polarity or there will be problems, could be why your
>> sensor isn't lasting. I had an electrician mount all my LED fixtures,
>> I've had no problems.... in the end it costs less to have electrical
>> work done correctly. The electrician I use is licensed and is a
>> Master Electrician. His rates are very fair, he charged $70 to
>> install that fixture, included all the wiring and installation... I
>> don't think I'd want to climb up there for $70 (about 30'). I don't
>> like those kind of heights.
>>
>When I had my present fixture installed it was when I was having a
>an addition built onto the back of my house. It was a licensed
>electrician that did all the wiring plus he wired this outdoor
>light.

The sodium vapor bulbs emit a pale bluish light.
LEDs emit a white light or warm pale yellow light.
I like the light from sodium vapor bulbs but they are now difficult to
find.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 15:32:27 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:

>On 8/31/2017 12:01 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:32:32 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>>>
>>>> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>>>> color.
>>>>
>>>> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>>>> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>>>> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank painted
>>>> dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry an egg on
>>>> that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>>>>
>>> Copper IS reflective dude, you think!
>>>
>>> And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.
>>
>> That was my thinking... I didn't feel like seeing a giant roll of
>> Reynolds Wrap glaring back at me. I bought two quart cans, one gave a
>> good first coat. I used a cheap throw away brush. I'll get to the
>> second coat before winter. I liked the hammered copper best. Here's
>> the color chart for Rustoleum Hammered:
>> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...rust/hammered/
>>
>
>So I do like their hammered silver, much nicer than the old style spray
>paint.
>
>And like they say - it covers scratches and dings well.
>
>But that copper is just darned eye-catching.

They make the hammered paint in spray cans too.

I wasn't sure about the copper but figured it would be no biggie to
paint over it but I love it. I can see now why they recommend two
coats, the factory black still shows through in spots. One plus is
even though I used a 25¢ throw away brush after it dried there were no
brush marks.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:41:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/31/2017 8:51 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Thu 31 Aug 2017 02:32:27p, Casa de Masa told us...
>>
>>> On 8/31/2017 12:01 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:32:32 -0600, Casa de Masa > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/31/2017 7:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My only comment will be about the color that you chose...a dark
>>>>>> color.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A tank holding volatile fuel (diesel fuel) should be painted a
>>>>>> very light color like white. This will reflect the sun and heat
>>>>>> and keep it cooler. I would not be happy with a fuel tank
>>>>>> painted dark where it gets so hot that "you could literally fry
>>>>>> an egg on that tank." Think, Sheldon.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Copper IS reflective dude, you think!
>>>>>
>>>>> And it's a darned sight more attractive than Rustoleum silver.
>>>>
>>>> That was my thinking... I didn't feel like seeing a giant roll of
>>>> Reynolds Wrap glaring back at me. I bought two quart cans, one
>>>> gave a good first coat. I used a cheap throw away brush. I'll
>>>> get to the second coat before winter. I liked the hammered
>>>> copper best. Here's the color chart for Rustoleum Hammered:
>>>> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...ands/stops-rus
>>>> t/ham mered/
>>>>
>>>
>>> So I do like their hammered silver, much nicer than the old style
>>> spray paint.
>>>
>>> And like they say - it covers scratches and dings well.
>>>
>>> But that copper is just darned eye-catching.
>>>
>>
>> I've ofaten seen in the southern US where people have buried tanks of
>> this size with only the access cap exposed above soil level and hard
>> copper tubing buried from the tank into the house.
>>
>>
>>
>With new regulations it is not so easy to do now. Plenty of those tanks
>are being dug up and any contaminated soil has to be removed, etc.

They don't bury diesel, kerosene, or home heating oil tanks but
propane tanks are often buried with no soil contamination problems...
the propane tanks are made of fiberglass so there's no rusting. Gas
stations now use fiberglass tanks too, in most locales they are forced
to dig up the old metal gas tanks and replace them with fiberglass, a
costly project. The Mobil and Sunoco station in town closed, those
small mom n'pop stations couldn't afford the conversion. I used to
buy diesel at teh Sunoco station but when they closed is when I
decided to get my own diesel tank, the next closest station selling
diesel was a 40 mile round trip. Also I have my tank filled with "off
road" diesel (dyed a different color) so the price doesn't include the
road tax, about a 20% savings... just don't get caught using off road
diesel in the family wheels, the fine is huge.
I should have gotten my own tank years ago. And since the fuel is
delivered it saves me all those weekly trips to fill two 5 gallon
cans. With the 20% cheaper fuel and eliminating all those 8 mile
round trips to the Sonoco station it won't be too long before I make
up the cost of the tank, I'll break even in about 3 years.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2017 12:44:04 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:01:25 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Ding - Dong Daddy
> wrote:
>>
>>>Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>>>> >> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>>>> >> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>>>> >> quickly became cool to the touch.
>>>> >> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>>>> >> new metalic copper:
>>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
>>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>>>> >>
>>>> >I don't have any type of tank in my yard but I think you did a
>>>> >superb job with your painting.
>>>>
>>>> Rustoleum makes a fine product and I really like their new metalic
>>>> colors. I bought the tank and fittings from Home Depot, they had the
>>>> best price, the local fuel companys wanted four times the price and
>>>> set up was expensive... I installed and set it up myself. I ordered
>>>> the crank pump from Amazon. The same company makes electric pumps and
>>>> I considered one but they are expensive, about six times the price,
>>>> and I really don't mind cranking for about one minute to fill the
>>>> tractor's tank once a week. With the factory black it got very hot
>>>> outdoors, the new metalic paint reflects sunlight away so it doesn't
>>>> get nearly so hot... I'm considering a permanent sun screen on the
>>>> east side to shade the AM sun, the barn shades the PM sun. This past
>>>> winter I had a tarp over it to keep snow off.
>>>>
>>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Your tank has better digs than Steve Sqwertz, or John Kuthe, lol...
>>>
>>>In any case, nice work, very neat and clean - looking...
>>
>>Kuthie is still renting a hovel from a Chinese, he bought nothing. I'm
>>pretty certain the dwarf rents his hovel too.
>
>Whereas you own 100 properties and rent 1000 of them, right? And they
>all fit in your dishwasher.

That comment says you live in Section 8 housing.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2017 09:40:22 -0400, wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >The bulb has not burned out in the 10 years it's been up but
>>> >I have had to replace electronic eye twice. They're readily
>>> >available at Lowe's but for some reason Home Depot does not
>>> >stock them.
>>>
>>> Depends what kind... an LED fixture can last more than 15 years...
>>> some of the older gas filled bulbs are no longer made. The LED models
>>> will save the price of the fixture in electricity within the first few
>>> months. so when they finally die you'd be so far ahead it'd be no big
>>> deal to buy a new fixture. Mine is an LED, the electronic eye turns
>>> it on at dusk and off at dawn. I have the 70 Watt model, emits
>>> tremendous light:
>>> http://www.superiorlighting.com/70_W...101caal068.htm
>>>
>>I *think* mine is a sodium vapor, but don't quote me.
>>>
>>> Something to know about LED lighting, the fixture must be wired with
>>> the proper polarity or there will be problems, could be why your
>>> sensor isn't lasting. I had an electrician mount all my LED fixtures,
>>> I've had no problems.... in the end it costs less to have electrical
>>> work done correctly. The electrician I use is licensed and is a
>>> Master Electrician. His rates are very fair, he charged $70 to
>>> install that fixture, included all the wiring and installation... I
>>> don't think I'd want to climb up there for $70 (about 30'). I don't
>>> like those kind of heights.
>>>
>>When I had my present fixture installed it was when I was having a
>>an addition built onto the back of my house. It was a licensed
>>electrician that did all the wiring plus he wired this outdoor
>>light.
>
>The sodium vapor bulbs emit a pale bluish light.
>LEDs emit a white light or warm pale yellow light.
>I like the light from sodium vapor bulbs but they are now difficult to
>find.

That's so wrong, LEDs come in all sorts of tones now - in the store
near me, they have a display so you can see the effects.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 22:53:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:45:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>Gary wrote:
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's just hard for me to come up with designs that a
>>>>>>> boy might like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If he is over age 12, pics of naked women will be a hit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wild animal pics are good, random art designs with nice
>>>>>> colors will be a hit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS - your baby hot weather where you live did NOT make your rock
>>>>>> picture chip off. Someone hit it and damaged it. Your mild hot
>>>>>> weather would "bake on" the finish. No hot weather would make
>>>>>> your rock picture chip off. Probably punk kids in your
>>>>>> neighborhood doing that.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope. Nobody hit it. They were all sitting in a box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most likely, your husband or daughter chipped that rock while you
>>>>>> were sleeping all day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope. There were a couple of days that were so hot that when I tried to
>>>>>paint, the paint dried immediately! I couldn't even do a marble finish.
>>>>>Dried that fast.
>>>>
>>>> Don't you own a patio umbrella... I painted my 275 gallon diesel tank
>>>> two days ago, I set up a tarp to shade the tank. Before I set up the
>>>> tarp you could literally fry an egg on that tank, with the tarp it
>>>> quickly became cool to the touch.
>>>> I think it turned out pretty nice, from factory black to Rustoleum's
>>>> new metalic copper:
>>>> https://postimg.org/image/fiqmnqxud/
>>>> https://postimg.org/image/4zv8cbkk5/
>>>> Gary will be by saying my paint job sucks:
>>>> https://postimg.org/image/mefgklhp1/
>>>> The dwarf will be by saying my nice barn light is something
>>>> unprintable, no, it won't fit up the dwarf's butt:
>>>> https://postimg.org/image/6t36xrc2d/
>>>> My dawn redwood, I planted it 15 years ago and it's now more than 15'
>>>> tall, was time to remove the deer fence. I discovered a Norway spruce
>>>> had sprouted next to the trunk, about 2' tall. Looked too nice to
>>>> destroy but not a good place for it. So asked around and my wife's
>>>> girlfriend who is a bee keeper wanted it. So she tooled over in her
>>>> new Beemer with a shovel. But no, her shovel was too teeny so I
>>>> started to dig it up with my manly shovel and whoa... YELLOW JACKETS!
>>>> I told the girls to get lost... my wife had already gotten stung six
>>>> times and she is allergic, had to go to her doc for meds. Anyway I
>>>> waited for those nasty stingers to calm down and hooked up my cart to
>>>> the small tractor and took a chance, the ground was wet and I was able
>>>> to dig that tree up easily. I got stung once on top of my left hand,
>>>> burned but after a day I was fine. Anyway Janet got her tree and was
>>>> happy, I'm sure I'll soon be soothed with wonderful honey. Dawn
>>>> Redwoods are prehistoric conefirs. I keep thinking I need to plant a
>>>> model of T Rex next to that tree.
>>>> https://postimg.org/image/9pq7y1hw5/
>>>
>>>I own a half umbrella that sits in front of the sliding door. Does seem to
>>>block the sun a teensy bit from getting in the window but doesn't do a
>>>think
>>>in terms of cooling except perhaps as the sun is setting.
>>>
>>>The rocks were not on the deck though but outside by the garage. We used
>>>acrylics, nail polish and sealed with spray on Mod Podge.
>>
>> I'd have found a shady spot, like under a tree, or *inside* the
>> garage.
>
>No room inside the garage. I use the term garage loosely. It does have a big
>door that goes up and down. It's not big enough to hold a car. Maybe a Smart
>Car would fit. And it retains heat like an oven this time of year. Was out
>painting again. It's chilly now but will get warm again and hotter still as
>the days go on.

You could have easily set up a $10 tarp for shade... when done take it
down, fold it up and put it away til next time. A tarp is a
necessary, there will be lots of uses; when I had a load of top soil
delivered I put a tarp over it as there was a heavy rain and I'd have
lost a lot. Since your car won't fit in the garage you need a tarp
for when a hail storm is forecast. Be a good Girl Scout, always be
prepared.

I've been watching all that Harvey news... ya know, 99% of those
residenses would have suffered no water damage were they properly
constructed for a low lying area... everyone living there knows an
inch of rain will cause water damage... it doesn't cost much more to
build on a raised foundation rather than directly on a slab... simply
set the houses atop a few courses of cement blocks. I'm seeing a lot
of fairly new construction, very pricey homes, all set directly on a
fercocktah slab... these are not poor people but they certainly are
pinheads... gotta be southern mentality! Even poor folks here who
live in trailers set it on a raised c-ment block foundation built for
cheap on the slab.... ce-ment blocks are cheap, and in the south there
are lots of excellent masons who work for cheap... masonary is a
Mexican specialty, they are very good at adobe.
My house has a basement but even if it didn't it's still sits on on a
foundation that's four feet above ground level... this area floods
too. Even 200-300 year old houses here are on fieldstone foundations
that are a few feet above ground level. Even livestock barns are set
on raised foundations. People here even place a cheap Lowe's shed on
a raised foundation.
Even people in Central America who live near the sea where hurricanes
are common build on majorly raised foundations... my wife is from
Belize, she grew up in a house built maybe 500' from the sea. During
hurricanes the sea water flows under the houses, they are built on
driven pilings, the houses are some 12' above ground level... this is
the house where my wife grew up, most houses there are built high:
https://postimg.org/image/7fb37a6l1/

On Fri, 01 Sep 2017 12:22:06 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Sep 2017 09:40:22 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >The bulb has not burned out in the 10 years it's been up but
>>>> >I have had to replace electronic eye twice. They're readily
>>>> >available at Lowe's but for some reason Home Depot does not
>>>> >stock them.
>>>>
>>>> Depends what kind... an LED fixture can last more than 15 years...
>>>> some of the older gas filled bulbs are no longer made. The LED models
>>>> will save the price of the fixture in electricity within the first few
>>>> months. so when they finally die you'd be so far ahead it'd be no big
>>>> deal to buy a new fixture. Mine is an LED, the electronic eye turns
>>>> it on at dusk and off at dawn. I have the 70 Watt model, emits
>>>> tremendous light:
>>>> http://www.superiorlighting.com/70_W...101caal068.htm
>>>>
>>>I *think* mine is a sodium vapor, but don't quote me.
>>>>
>>>> Something to know about LED lighting, the fixture must be wired with
>>>> the proper polarity or there will be problems, could be why your
>>>> sensor isn't lasting. I had an electrician mount all my LED fixtures,
>>>> I've had no problems.... in the end it costs less to have electrical
>>>> work done correctly. The electrician I use is licensed and is a
>>>> Master Electrician. His rates are very fair, he charged $70 to
>>>> install that fixture, included all the wiring and installation... I
>>>> don't think I'd want to climb up there for $70 (about 30'). I don't
>>>> like those kind of heights.
>>>>
>>>When I had my present fixture installed it was when I was having a
>>>an addition built onto the back of my house. It was a licensed
>>>electrician that did all the wiring plus he wired this outdoor
>>>light.
>>
>>The sodium vapor bulbs emit a pale bluish light.
>>LEDs emit a white light or warm pale yellow light.
>>I like the light from sodium vapor bulbs but they are now difficult to
>>find.
>
>That's so wrong, LEDs come in all sorts of tones now - in the store
>near me, they have a display so you can see the effects.

You're refering to screw-in bulbs for indoor use, not outdoor
fixtures.

On 9/1/2017 7:40 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:59:14 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> The bulb has not burned out in the 10 years it's been up but
>>>> I have had to replace electronic eye twice. They're readily
>>>> available at Lowe's but for some reason Home Depot does not
>>>> stock them.
>>>
>>> Depends what kind... an LED fixture can last more than 15 years...
>>> some of the older gas filled bulbs are no longer made. The LED models
>>> will save the price of the fixture in electricity within the first few
>>> months. so when they finally die you'd be so far ahead it'd be no big
>>> deal to buy a new fixture. Mine is an LED, the electronic eye turns
>>> it on at dusk and off at dawn. I have the 70 Watt model, emits
>>> tremendous light:
>>> http://www.superiorlighting.com/70_W...101caal068.htm
>>>
>> I *think* mine is a sodium vapor, but don't quote me.
>>>
>>> Something to know about LED lighting, the fixture must be wired with
>>> the proper polarity or there will be problems, could be why your
>>> sensor isn't lasting. I had an electrician mount all my LED fixtures,
>>> I've had no problems.... in the end it costs less to have electrical
>>> work done correctly. The electrician I use is licensed and is a
>>> Master Electrician. His rates are very fair, he charged $70 to
>>> install that fixture, included all the wiring and installation... I
>>> don't think I'd want to climb up there for $70 (about 30'). I don't
>>> like those kind of heights.
>>>
>> When I had my present fixture installed it was when I was having a
>> an addition built onto the back of my house. It was a licensed
>> electrician that did all the wiring plus he wired this outdoor
>> light.
>
> The sodium vapor bulbs emit a pale bluish light.
> LEDs emit a white light or warm pale yellow light.
> I like the light from sodium vapor bulbs but they are now difficult to
> find.
>
http://www.bulbs.com/High_Pressure_S...y/results.aspx