On 9/29/2017 6:09 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/29/2017 3:24 PM, Casa de Masa wrote:
>> On 9/29/2017 9:50 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> Sheldon is refusing to acknowledge the links I posted that show how
>>> wrong he is about the term "boned and tied".
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Boy howdy, I bet that chaps your hide!
>
> He may be watching a B & D movie titles "Boned and Tied"

Oh my oh my!

I don't even want to know...

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....oh wait, wrong kind of tied...

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 9/29/2017 4:05 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:11:22 -0400, Gary wrote:
> >
> > > I still haven't been able to see Jill's pics but others have
> > > noticed an old date on the label and also agreed that it looks
> > > very freezer burned. WTH Jill?
> >
> > It's not freezer burned. Maybe you should just shut up and stop all
> > this carrying on.
> >
> > -sw
> >
> Thank you. He can't even see the pics but he's still criticizing
> them. How very funny! Maybe he thinks I should do like some other
> poster and cook all the meat I buy the minute I get it home...
>
> Jill

I did see one angle that looked like possible freezer burn but it was
just the lighting as it was fine in the other picture.

--

Bruce wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >As far as I'm concerned, we both questioned each other. I call
> >that a drawl.
>
> A strange use of the word. A good thing you explained it.

Wrong word. Should be draw.

On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:34:22 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >As far as I'm concerned, we both questioned each other. I call
>> >that a drawl.
>>
>> A strange use of the word. A good thing you explained it.
>
>Wrong word. Should be draw.

I know, just kidding.

"Casa de Masa" > wrote in message
news
> On 9/28/2017 8:45 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>> Many wealthy families groom their kids for high office. Not that
>>> many make it but many are groomed for it. Send them to the best
>>> prep schools, then on to Ivy League colleges or so.
>>
>> Privileges Trump enjoyed, but in vain so far as his Presidential
>> conduct is concerned.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>
> Sit there and seethe, you disgruntled old vinegar-titted hag!

Ew.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 9/28/2017 8:18 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > Back to the Kennedy family:
>> > To me, too much coincidence that 2 got killed, next got
>> > discredited and finally, John Jr - who was headed towards a
>> > successful political career, just happened to die 'accidently' in
>> > a plane crash. How convenient.
>>
>> You really believe that? He was piloting the plane and was (by all
>> accounts) advised not to try to make the flight at night. Poor
>> judgement, IMHO. I doubt anyone wanted to kill his wife or her friend.
>
> Called "collateral damage"
>
>>
>> He had an older sister (Arabella) who was stillborn. Conspiracy? He
>> had a younger brother (Patrick) who was born prematurely and only lived
>> for two days. Conspiracy? Oh, and he had a cousin who died in a skiing
>> accident. Conspiracy? Or just a horrific run of bad luck for this
>> family?
>
> None of them count...they were not potential presidents.
>
> 4 Kennedy's - 3 brothers in sequence who ran for president.
> One son of JFK that had that chance pending too. Accident?
> Believe what you want, I believe differently.
>
> Here ya go....maybe get Caroline Kennedy to run for first woman
> president 2 years from now. She has that "camelot Kennedy charm"
> too. Think she would survive the election period? I think she
> knows better not to run.

Yep.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 9/28/2017 9:54 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 9/28/2017 8:18 AM, Gary wrote:
>> >>> Back to the Kennedy family:
>> >>> To me, too much coincidence that 2 got killed, next got
>> >>> discredited and finally, John Jr - who was headed towards a
>> >>> successful political career, just happened to die 'accidently' in
>> >>> a plane crash. How convenient.
>> >>
>> >> You really believe that? He was piloting the plane and was (by all
>> >> accounts) advised not to try to make the flight at night. Poor
>> >> judgement, IMHO. I doubt anyone wanted to kill his wife or her
>> >> friend.
>> >
>> > Called "collateral damage"
>> >
>> >>
>> >> He had an older sister (Arabella) who was stillborn. Conspiracy? He
>> >> had a younger brother (Patrick) who was born prematurely and only
>> >> lived
>> >> for two days. Conspiracy? Oh, and he had a cousin who died in a
>> >> skiing
>> >> accident. Conspiracy? Or just a horrific run of bad luck for this
>> >> family?
>> >
>> > None of them count...they were not potential presidents.
>> >
>> > 4 Kennedy's - 3 brothers in sequence who ran for president.
>> > One son of JFK that had that chance pending too. Accident?
>> > Believe what you want, I believe differently.
>> >
>> > Here ya go....maybe get Caroline Kennedy to run for first woman
>> > president 2 years from now. She has that "camelot Kennedy charm"
>> > too. Think she would survive the election period? I think she
>> > knows better not to run.
>> >
>> I think she's not interested. And you're sounding more and more like a
>> conspiracy theorist.
>
> Caroline is smartly not interested in running and....
> I went to the grocery store this morning and, using a coupon,
> bought a large roll of Reynolds Wrap. ;-D

Plastic or foil?

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> OB Food: I thoroughly enjoyed the slice of prime rib I had last night
>> for dinner. I have a standing rib roast in the freezer and
>
> You who eats like a bird has a standing rib roast in your
> freezer?
> LOL. No way, don't even try it Jill. Liar, liar, panties on fire!

Ow!

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> OB Food: I thoroughly enjoyed the slice of prime rib I had last night
> >> for dinner. I have a standing rib roast in the freezer and
> >
> > You who eats like a bird has a standing rib roast in your
> > freezer?
> > LOL. No way, don't even try it Jill. Liar, liar, panties on fire!
>
> Ow!

Oh great! Thanks Julie for dragging that one back to the front.
I was teasing her but with a bit of truth. Much talk about the
standing rib roasts then Jill mentioned hers.

From there, in typical RFC form, all hell broke loose and
I'm a rat again. LOL!@ Hey, WTH...it keeps things interesting.

On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 07:59:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> >
>> > You who eats like a bird has a standing rib roast in your
>> > freezer?
>> > LOL. No way, don't even try it Jill. Liar, liar, panties on fire!
>>
>> Ow!
>
>Oh great! Thanks Julie for dragging that one back to the front.
>I was teasing her but with a bit of truth. Much talk about the
>standing rib roasts then Jill mentioned hers.
>
>From there, in typical RFC form, all hell broke loose and
>I'm a rat again. LOL!@ Hey, WTH...it keeps things interesting.

You act quite nasty lately and then, when you get some of that back,
you act all hurt and innocent. Well, you reap what you sow.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:28:14 -0300, wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:41:14 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 9/28/2017 8:24 AM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:52:19 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OB Food: I thoroughly enjoyed the slice of prime rib I had last night
>>>> for dinner. I have a standing rib roast in the freezer and plan to
>>>> try my hand at Yorkshire pudding then. Do you (anyone) have a recipe?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> It is different this side of the Pond because of the flour. I use 1/2
>>> cup AP flour, good pinch of salt, one egg and 1/2 cup milk. Combine
>>> then leave to sit for an hour (this is the main difference)
>>>
>>> Turn oven to 420° and when up to temp place tart pan in oven with a
>>> little fat (preferably fat from other meat cooking, as in 'drippings')
>>> in each cup. When the fat is sizzling, divide the batter between the
>>> 12 cups. Do not open door until done, about 20 minutes.
>>>
>>Thank you! When you say divide between the 12 cups, are you referring
>>to a metal baking pan? I have a 12 individual cups muffin tin which I
>>suppose is similar to a tart pan. Thanks for the info. I really do
>>want to try this when I roast the beast.
>>
>>Jill
>No, a tart pan has cups that are not nearly so deep as a muffin pan.

In a muffin pan double the quantity, as in one cup of flour, one cup
of liquid (I use half milk half water), good pinch of salt and stick
with one XL egg. You probably need 1/2 tsp fat per muffin cup and you
want it smoking before pouring the batter in. I always crank my oven
up to top heat, get the fat smoking, divide the batter between cups
and they should only take about ten minutes.

JB

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:43:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 15:22:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2017-09-28 2:59 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:09:57 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/28/2017 12:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 9/28/2017 12:03 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:28:14 -0300, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:41:14 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/28/2017 8:24 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:52:19 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!* When you say divide between the 12 cups, are you referring
>>>>>>>> to a metal baking pan?* I have a 12 individual cups muffin tin which I
>>>>>>>> suppose is similar to a tart pan.* Thanks for the info. * I really do
>>>>>>>> want to try this when I roast the beast.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>> No, a tart pan has cups that are not nearly so deep as a muffin pan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just thinking that the tart pans were deeper -- thanks for
>>>>>> correcting me ;-)
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well hmmmm.* I'm not going to buy a tart pan for something I've never
>>>>> tasted before.* Guess I'll just have to live without Yorkshire pudding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Muffin pan works. We're not purists when it is a rarely used pan and
>>>> you can improvise.
>>>
>>> Have you actually done them in a muffin pan and if so did they puff
>>> right up? I would choose a cake pan as my second choice rather than
>>> muffin pan.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I almost always cook Yorkshire pudding in muffin pans.... AKA cupcake pans.
>
>my understanding is that the fat and the pan have to be blistering hot
>when the batter is poured in, is that correct?
>Janet US

Absolutely. Smokin....

JB

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 03:05:29 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> Will post more results as they pour in.

Hi Julie. I'm sort of new here, and I am wondering why it seems that some
people are always teasing you.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > ...You then inferred that I was lying
> > about my laptop being "conveniently broken" to not see your pics.
>
> Something seems to be working now because you are posting, and have been
> for a while.

Check out my headers on any post for at least the past 6 weeks,
Dave.
I use my old Win98 computer still for usenet. It works fine for
usenet and very little else. Need broken laptop for most pics.

Therefor ....bite me.
Go monitor a parking lot.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I wouldn't have bothered to take a pic if he hadn't started in with
> "LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE". How childish.

Again...teasing you plus you quoted me wrong above. lol.

Seems that many RFC people walk through life with grimaces on
their face....no sense of play or humor or teasing. This
actually makes me want to tease more. Oh the grimace serious
faces here. oh man..the horror of it all.

:-D

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I personally wouldn't trust wifi in public places.

I don't except with unimportant things to see.
Email, I've switched to an alt email addy for now

> > Anyway...blah blah blah....either get wifi here soon or just buy
> > a new computer. I can't be bothered to drive around town to use a
> > free wifi. Also can't use that to check my bank balance. Danger
> > Will Robinson!
> >
> IMHO, I wouldn't advise an unsecure wifi account to check your bank balance.

True, that's what I said above.
The current computer situation is bad. Will be fixed soon, one
way or another.

On 9/29/2017 11:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Casa de Masa" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 9/28/2017 8:45 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>>> Many wealthy families groom their kids for high office. Not that
>>>> many make it but many are groomed for it. Send them to the best
>>>> prep schools, then on to Ivy League colleges or so.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* Privileges Trump enjoyed, but in vain so far as his Presidential
>>> conduct is concerned.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* Janet UK
>>>
>>
>> Sit there and seethe, you disgruntled old vinegar-titted hag!
>
> Ew.

And yet, so apt:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/1/61...58958_tvaj.jpg

On 9/30/2017 6:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
> You act quite nasty lately and then, when you get some of that back,
> you act all hurt and innocent. Well, you reap what you sow.

Wow.

Classic pot/kettle/nancy boy!

On 9/30/2017 7:46 AM, Mike_Duffy wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 03:05:29 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Will post more results as they pour in.
>
> Hi Julie. I'm sort of new here, and I am wondering why it seems that some
> people are always teasing you.
>

This is, first and now foremost, not so much a cooking group, as its
title implies, but really a nasty little bullying sandbox with some
truly en-evolved old farts who are still living out their territorial
hatreds from childhood.

As such they find it impossibly addictive to bully and pick on others
based upon their unique personalities and preferences being outside the
bulk of the bell shaped curve.

Ergo Julie and John Kuthe (2 unique individuals) are immediate and
ongoing targets regardless of what they express here.

You will be, in due time, be measured by the bully class based upon
whether you endorse their teasing, join in, or revile it.

I would hope you can see the humanity in choosing the latter, but in
this poison box one can never expect compassion nor humility.

So mote it be.

On 9/30/2017 8:52 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't have bothered to take a pic if he hadn't started in with
>> "LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE". How childish.
>
> Again...teasing you plus you quoted me wrong above. lol.
>
> Seems that many RFC people walk through life with grimaces on
> their face....no sense of play or humor or teasing. This
> actually makes me want to tease more. Oh the grimace serious
> faces here. oh man..the horror of it all.
>
> :-D
>

:-)))

In article >, says...
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't have bothered to take a pic if he hadn't started in with
> > "LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE". How childish.
>
> Again...teasing you plus you quoted me wrong above. lol.
>
Here we go, same old same old. Gary will never ever take
responsibility for himself. It's always someone else's fault, he's
misunderstood, and so terribly SENSITIVE.

Next he'll be telling you how he really likes you and wants to be
friends, then by tea time he'll be sobbing for sympathy about dead
ferrets.

Janet UK

On 9/30/2017 9:56 AM, Janet wrote:
> by tea time he'll be sobbing for sympathy about dead
> ferrets.

Tit dry of any compassion, human or otherwise you a


https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/1/61...58958_tvaj.jpg

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 9/28/2017 10:30 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> BTW, the roasted bones make great stock.
>>
>> Don't you mean bone broth now? The nifty new term?
>>
> I just call it stock. There will still be meat on them thar bones when I
> make it.
>
>> Hey Jill, my newest computer is broken, dammit. I'll have to go
>> to a nearby free wifi place to see your pics and I will. Need to
>> go to library tomorrow anyway so will see them then.
>>
> Sorry to hear it. But I really don't appreciate being called a liar,
> Gary.
>
>> My neighborhood is supposed to now offer free wifi and I can get
>> it inside my house. It's already set up and online but dumbass
>> person forgot to remove the password protection. I need to have
>> them remove that or at least tell me the password. Very
>> frustrating here lately.
>>
> I personally wouldn't trust wifi in public places. I certainly wouldn't
> do it without password protection. My brother was able to hack into a
> neighbors wifi signal so he could check his work email back in TN. If
> he'd been a hacker and so inclined he probably could have been all up in
> their business.
>
>> Anyway...blah blah blah....either get wifi here soon or just buy
>> a new computer. I can't be bothered to drive around town to use a
>> free wifi. Also can't use that to check my bank balance. Danger
>> Will Robinson!
>>
> IMHO, I wouldn't advise an unsecure wifi account to check your bank
> balance.

Yep.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 23:11:28 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:49:50 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:15:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
m...
>>>>
>>>>He's on the news a lot here. You can't help form an opinion. Just like
>>>>you love him.
>>>>
>>>>===
>>>>
>>>>I love who?
>>>
>>>Trump.
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>Why would I love Trump??
>>>
>>>Have you been drinking???
>>
>>Lol, no it's 8 am. I never start until 9
>>
>>==
>>
>>Hmmmm must be the drugs then!
>
> Huh?

Yep. That's what they do to you!

On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 03:51:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 23:11:28 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:49:50 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
m...
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:15:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
om...
>>>>>
>>>>>He's on the news a lot here. You can't help form an opinion. Just like
>>>>>you love him.
>>>>>
>>>>>===
>>>>>
>>>>>I love who?
>>>>
>>>>Trump.
>>>>
>>>>==
>>>>
>>>>Why would I love Trump??
>>>>
>>>>Have you been drinking???
>>>
>>>Lol, no it's 8 am. I never start until 9
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>Hmmmm must be the drugs then!
>>
>> Huh?
>
>Yep. That's what they do to you!

Make you forget you took them?

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > I wouldn't have bothered to take a pic if he hadn't started in with
> > > "LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE". How childish.
> >
> > Again...teasing you plus you quoted me wrong above. lol.
> >
> Here we go, same old same old. Gary will never ever take
> responsibility for himself. It's always someone else's fault, he's
> misunderstood, and so terribly SENSITIVE.
>
> Next he'll be telling you how he really likes you and wants to be
> friends, then by tea time he'll be sobbing for sympathy about dead
> ferrets.
>
> Janet UK
>
>

Worship Satan much?
O was evidently right about you all this time. wow

On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:39:15 -0600, Casa de Masa wrote:

> This is, first and now foremost, not so much a cooking group, as its
> title implies, but really a nasty little bullying sandbox with some
> truly en-evolved old farts who are still living out their territorial
> hatreds from childhood.

Well, it is a Usenet group. Why should it differ from most others?


> [...] pick on others based upon their unique personalities
> and preferences being outside the bulk of the bell shaped curve.
>
> Ergo Julie and John Kuthe (2 unique individuals) are immediate and
> ongoing targets regardless of what they express here.

I'm sort of weird too, so probably I will end up their target as well.


> So mote it be.

I had to look that up on Google. And Thanks for your opinion.

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http://mduffy.x10host.com/index.htm

On 10/1/2017 5:18 PM, Mike_Duffy wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:39:15 -0600, Casa de Masa wrote:
>
>> This is, first and now foremost, not so much a cooking group, as its
>> title implies, but really a nasty little bullying sandbox with some
>> truly en-evolved old farts who are still living out their territorial
>> hatreds from childhood.
>
> Well, it is a Usenet group. Why should it differ from most others?

Becasue it offers up the pretense of being more than that.

>> [...] pick on others based upon their unique personalities
>> and preferences being outside the bulk of the bell shaped curve.
>>
>> Ergo Julie and John Kuthe (2 unique individuals) are immediate and
>> ongoing targets regardless of what they express here.
>
> I'm sort of weird too, so probably I will end up their target as well.

That may happen, but you'll at least know the drill and what to expect now.


>> So mote it be.
>
> I had to look that up on Google. And Thanks for your opinion.

Lol, no worries mate, yer among friends here - a few I hope...

:-)