I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
and a third sting. I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he
deserved to die.

I tried denial, but it was swelling. I headed out to look for a pharmacy
to buy some Benedryl. It was swelling fast. I headed for the hospital
instead. I registered, was taken ahead of about 40 other people in the
waiting room, no waiting for a nurse, saw a doctor a couple minutes and
they started hitting me with drugs.... epi shot, zantac and an Benedryl
IV drip.

Wow... that stuff worked wonders. The swelling started to go down
within minutes. My face still feels like I have been to the dentist.

They kept me for four hours for observation and sent me home with a
prescription for 2 epi pens. From now on, if I get stung I have to
stab myself with an epi pen and go to the ER.

Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.

On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:22:26 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
>a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
>one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
>on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
>and a third sting. I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he
>deserved to die.
>
>I tried denial, but it was swelling. I headed out to look for a pharmacy
>to buy some Benedryl. It was swelling fast. I headed for the hospital
>instead. I registered, was taken ahead of about 40 other people in the
>waiting room, no waiting for a nurse, saw a doctor a couple minutes and
>they started hitting me with drugs.... epi shot, zantac and an Benedryl
>IV drip.
>
>Wow... that stuff worked wonders. The swelling started to go down
>within minutes. My face still feels like I have been to the dentist.
>
>They kept me for four hours for observation and sent me home with a
>prescription for 2 epi pens. From now on, if I get stung I have to
>stab myself with an epi pen and go to the ER.
>
>Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
>Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.

You did the right thing by going to the hospital. Sting reactions are
nothing to ignore. Glad you're o.k.
Janet US

On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 5:21:25 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
> a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
> one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
> on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
> and a third sting. I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he
> deserved to die.
>
> I tried denial, but it was swelling. I headed out to look for a pharmacy
> to buy some Benedryl. It was swelling fast. I headed for the hospital
> instead. I registered, was taken ahead of about 40 other people in the
> waiting room, no waiting for a nurse, saw a doctor a couple minutes and
> they started hitting me with drugs.... epi shot, zantac and an Benedryl
> IV drip.
>
> Wow... that stuff worked wonders. The swelling started to go down
> within minutes. My face still feels like I have been to the dentist.
>
> They kept me for four hours for observation and sent me home with a
> prescription for 2 epi pens. From now on, if I get stung I have to
> stab myself with an epi pen and go to the ER.
>
> Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
> Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.
>
>
That sounds awfully painful!! Glad you are ok. We had a 'hornet tree'
when I was a kid and those things were HUGE. I gave them a wide berth.

On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:22:26 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
> a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
> one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
> on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
> and a third sting. I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he
> deserved to die.


It helps if you look at your food while you're shovelling it into your
fat ****ing face. Who doesn't see a big hornet???

On 2017-10-02 7:29 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 5:21:25 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
ab myself with an epi pen and go to the ER.
>>
>> Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
>> Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.
>>
>>
> That sounds awfully painful!! Glad you are ok. We had a 'hornet tree'
> when I was a kid and those things were HUGE. I gave them a wide berth.
>

Thanks . It wasn't really very painful, but I was concerned at the way
it was swelling. I was amazed at how quickly and effectively that drug
combination worked. It wasn't and still isn't really painful, but my
chin and lips feel like I have had dental work and am still frozen.

On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:22:26 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I registered, was taken ahead of about 40 other people in the
>waiting room, no waiting for a nurse, saw a doctor a couple minutes and
>they started hitting me with drugs.... epi shot, zantac and an Benedryl
>IV drip.
>
>Wow... that stuff worked wonders. The swelling started to go down
>within minutes. My face still feels like I have been to the dentist.
>
>They kept me for four hours for observation and sent me home with a
>prescription for 2 epi pens. From now on, if I get stung I have to
>stab myself with an epi pen and go to the ER.
>
>Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
>Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.


You KNOW it's serious when you jump the line, easily.
Only been THERE once, but it was enough.

Good thing you were willing to hit the ER so quickly.

Glad you're OK.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying a
>coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the one
>that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was on the
>donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting and a third
>sting. I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he deserved to
>die.
>
> I tried denial, but it was swelling. I headed out to look for a pharmacy
> to buy some Benedryl. It was swelling fast. I headed for the hospital
> instead. I registered, was taken ahead of about 40 other people in the
> waiting room, no waiting for a nurse, saw a doctor a couple minutes and
> they started hitting me with drugs.... epi shot, zantac and an Benedryl IV
> drip.
>
> Wow... that stuff worked wonders. The swelling started to go down within
> minutes. My face still feels like I have been to the dentist.
>
> They kept me for four hours for observation and sent me home with a
> prescription for 2 epi pens. From now on, if I get stung I have to stab
> myself with an epi pen and go to the ER.
>
> Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
> Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.

Epi pens cost a lot here. Not sure if they are covered by insurance.

"Casa Bona" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:22:26 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
>> a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
>> one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
>> on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
>> and a third sting. I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he
>> deserved to die.
>
>
> It helps if you look at your food while you're shovelling it into your
> fat ****ing face. Who doesn't see a big hornet???

I must now clean masticated popcorn from my screen.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" wrote:
> > Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
> > Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.
>
> Epi pens cost a lot here. Not sure if they are covered by insurance.

I seem to remember hearing that they cost several hundred dollars
each plus they expire after a certain time. Someone with a severe
allergy to something should certainly keep one with them at all
times but how many people can afford that?

My mom has a severe allergy to bee stings. I told her she should
ask her doctor about getting one for emergencies. She lives in a
very rural area and often is alone.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
> a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
> one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
> on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
> and a third sting.

Good grief! What a pleasant morning all gone to hell.
Whether or not allergic to stings, I suspect that
3 hornet stings *IN* the mouth would send anyone to the
emergency room.

> Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
> Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.

Amazing cost. If you were a US citizen with no health insurance,
I can't even imagine how much that would have cost you. Several
thousand dollars easily. Even with insurance, you would still owe
a lot.

Anyway...glad you got through it ok. Whew!

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 8:04:42 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
> > a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
> > one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
> > on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
> > and a third sting.
>
> Good grief! What a pleasant morning all gone to hell.
> Whether or not allergic to stings, I suspect that
> 3 hornet stings *IN* the mouth would send anyone to the
> emergency room.
>
> > Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
> > Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.
>
> Amazing cost. If you were a US citizen with no health insurance,
> I can't even imagine how much that would have cost you. Several
> thousand dollars easily. Even with insurance, you would still owe
> a lot.

I think we'd pay nothing for the ER and a $10-$30 copay for the
Epi-pens. Our insurance plan is very generous as far as the ER
is concerned.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/3/2017 8:05 AM, Gary wrote:

>
> Amazing cost. If you were a US citizen with no health insurance,
> I can't even imagine how much that would have cost you. Several
> thousand dollars easily. Even with insurance, you would still owe
> a lot.

Maybe. With my present insurance it would be $0 With my last insurance
it would have been $100 but I could have gone to a ReddiMed for $40.

Canada pays for it through taxes rather than insurance premiums.

On 2017-10-03 8:04 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Smith" wrote:
>>> Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
>>> Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.
>>
>> Epi pens cost a lot here. Not sure if they are covered by insurance.
>
> I seem to remember hearing that they cost several hundred dollars
> each plus they expire after a certain time. Someone with a severe
> allergy to something should certainly keep one with them at all
> times but how many people can afford that?

True. I checked on line this morning and it looks like it is $500 for a
two pack.


> My mom has a severe allergy to bee stings. I told her she should
> ask her doctor about getting one for emergencies. She lives in a
> very rural area and often is alone.

She should have it. Note that the epipen is not the cure. It gives you
time to get to a hospital. My instructions were to use the pen and get
yourself to a hospital. If there is no one to drive me I am to call 911.
I am going to have to be more careful. I usually get stung at least once
a year.

On 2017-10-03 9:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 8:04:42 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

>> Amazing cost. If you were a US citizen with no health insurance,
>> I can't even imagine how much that would have cost you. Several
>> thousand dollars easily. Even with insurance, you would still owe
>> a lot.
>
> I think we'd pay nothing for the ER and a $10-$30 copay for the
> Epi-pens. Our insurance plan is very generous as far as the ER
> is concerned.
>

I have a correction on that price. I found the bill a few minutes ago
and it was $24.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I think we'd pay nothing for the ER and a $10-$30 copay for the
> Epi-pens. Our insurance plan is very generous as far as the ER
> is concerned.

Wow. Be thankful for your very good insurance plan. Must be a
company provided one. You would never get that on a private plan.

Note: I'm saying a private (one person plan) not a group plan.
In my case, it was 'Subscriber and one minor."
Over the years, I got so screwed and they never paid a penny.

When I quit, I had paid them approx. $45,000 and I never got a
single thing back from them. All doctor visits applied to the
annual deductible and no prescription coverage.

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 10:36:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > I think we'd pay nothing for the ER and a $10-$30 copay for the
> > Epi-pens. Our insurance plan is very generous as far as the ER
> > is concerned.
>
> Wow. Be thankful for your very good insurance plan. Must be a
> company provided one. You would never get that on a private plan.

I've always had employer-paid health insurance (my employer or
my husband's). It's one of the best things about being a
technocrat. My husband plans to retire when he's 62 and
I'm just shy of 65. I expect to work until he's 65 and
eligible for Medicare.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 11:48:28 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 10:36:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>
> > Wow. Be thankful for your very good insurance plan. Must be a
> > company provided one. You would never get that on a private plan.
>
> I've always had employer-paid health insurance (my employer or
> my husband's). It's one of the best things about being a
> technocrat. My husband plans to retire when he's 62 and
> I'm just shy of 65. I expect to work until he's 65 and
> eligible for Medicare.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
I always had employer-paid health insurance with my part of the
premium being quite reasonable as well as dental and eye coverage.
When I retired this year I went on the company retiree health plan.
I quickly did a LOT of research on Medicare Advantage and Medicare
Supplemental plans as well as drug plans. I dropped the company
retiree plan and got a refund from them as well after choosing a
Supplemental plan.

Dave, you are lucky to have such a fast response to your medical emergency. Hornets are NASTY!
They get really aggressive if you try to wave them away or swat at them...they just come right
after you. I had an in-ground colony under the roots of a lightning-struck tree in my front yard.
I didn't know until the tree guys got stung when they took the tree down. My neighbor and I
spent a couple hours soaking the ground with several different killing products, and spraying
the hornets directly when they came out to fight. We finally apparently got the nest saturated,
although we couldn't see it. I am SO glad they are gone!

N.

On 2017-10-03 2:58 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Dave, you are lucky to have such a fast response to your medical
> emergency.

I was lucky to be close to the hospital. The triage system apparently
made me high priority. There were probably dozens of people in that
waiting room that were ticked off when they saw me taken in so soon.

>Hornets are NASTY! They get really aggressive if you try
> to wave them away or swat at them...they just come right after you.

Tell me about it. I usually get stung once or twice a year. Last summer
I got at least a half dozen stings when I was weed whacking around a
rotten log where they had a nest.

> I had an in-ground colony under the roots of a lightning-struck tree
> in my front yard. I didn't know until the tree guys got stung when
> they took the tree down. My neighbor and I spent a couple hours
> soaking the ground with several different killing products, and
> spraying the hornets directly when they came out to fight. We
> finally apparently got the nest saturated, although we couldn't see
> it. I am SO glad they are gone!

The easiest way to deal with them is to get them at night when they are
all in the nest. Note the location of the entrance and come back after
dark and spray it with a good wasp and hornet spray. That it do a number
on most of them. Give it a while to work. Then pour about a ping of
gasoline into the hole. Let it sit for a few minutes to saturate the
nest and create some fumes. Then toss a match into it. The fumes will
cause a bit of a thump in the nest as it explodes. By then it is safe to
dig it up with a shovel. Let the air get at it so it will burn completely.

There never was much love to lose between me and hornets. This incident
was pretty much a declaration of war for me.

FWIW.... I was keeping an eye on a very large hornet nest along the
walking trail behind our house. One morning it did not look too active
so I went over and had a peek and saw the funniest thing. A coyote had
crapped into the hole at the entrance. That must have been one angry
coyote, and his message was clear.

On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 5:21:25 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
> a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
> one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
> on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
> and a third sting. I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he
> deserved to die.
....

****ER!! You tried to eat a live bee! Should have chewed vigorously and swallowed!

Pain is only temporary, glory is forever!

John Kuthe...

On 10/2/2017 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
> a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around.Â* I shooed the
> one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
> on the donut.Â* I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
> and a third sting.Â* I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he
> deserved to die.
>
> I tried denial, but it was swelling. I headed out to look for a pharmacy
> to buy some Benedryl. It was swelling fast. I headed for the hospital
> instead.Â* I registered, was taken ahead of about 40 other people in the
> waiting room, no waiting for a nurse, saw a doctor a couple minutes and
> they started hitting me with drugs.... epi shot, zantac and an Benedryl
> IV drip.
>
> Wow... that stuff worked wonders. The swellingÂ* started to go down
> within minutes.Â* My face still feels like I have been to the dentist.
>
> They kept me for four hours for observation and sent me home with a
> prescription for 2 epi pens.Â*Â* From now on, if I get stung I have to
> stab myself with an epi pen and go to the ER.
>
> Thanks to our health care system there was no bill for the hospital.
> Thanks to my drug plan the charge for the two epi pens was only $35.

Wow! That's frightening. I'm really glad you went to the hospital
instead of trying to take care of it yourself. I had a friend who died
from anaphylatic shock after being stung by a wasp.

MaryL

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 7:28:49 PM UTC-5, MaryL wrote:
....
>
> Wow! That's frightening. I'm really glad you went to the hospital
> instead of trying to take care of it yourself. I had a friend who died
> from anaphylatic shock after being stung by a wasp.
>
> MaryL

Yep, anaphylaxis can easily be deadly if the airway swells too much. It's a way out of control histamine reaction! Needs epinephrine! Works VERY well!

John Kuthe...

On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 17:45:34 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 7:28:49 PM UTC-5, MaryL wrote:
>...
>>
>> Wow! That's frightening. I'm really glad you went to the hospital
>> instead of trying to take care of it yourself. I had a friend who died
>> from anaphylatic shock after being stung by a wasp.
>>
>> MaryL
>
>Yep, anaphylaxis can easily be deadly if the airway swells too much. It's a way out of control histamine reaction! Needs epinephrine! Works VERY well!

When a coconut falls on your head, it can kill you.

Dave Smith wrote:
>Nancy2 wrote:
>> Dave, you are lucky to have such a fast response to your medical
>> emergency.
>
>I was lucky to be close to the hospital. The triage system apparently
>made me high priority. There were probably dozens of people in that
>waiting room that were ticked off when they saw me taken in so soon.

You need this:
https://www.amazon.com/Professional-.../dp/B00C43VUXC

On 10/3/2017 5:41 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 5:21:25 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> I just had a beautiful fall day ruined by a hornet sting. I was enjoying
>> a coffee and donut and there were hornets buzzing around. I shooed the
>> one that had landed on my finger. I guess I didn't see the one that was
>> on the donut. I felt a bit of crunch, then a sting, and another sting
>> and a third sting. I spit it out and stomped on it.... to late, but he
>> deserved to die.
> ...
>
> ****ER!! You tried to eat a live bee! Should have chewed vigorously and swallowed!
>
> Pain is only temporary, glory is forever!
>
> John Kuthe...
>


Angry dog logic...


;-)

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 17:45:34 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 7:28:49 PM UTC-5, MaryL wrote: speaking of
>>Dave and the hornet stings.
>>...
>>>
>>> Wow! That's frightening. I'm really glad you went to the hospital
>>> instead of trying to take care of it yourself. I had a friend who died
>>> from anaphylatic shock after being stung by a wasp.
>>>
>>> MaryL
>>
>>Yep, anaphylaxis can easily be deadly if the airway swells too much. It's
>>a way out of control histamine reaction! Needs epinephrine! Works VERY
>>well!
>
> When a coconut falls on your head, it can kill you.


Personally, I'd sooner get hit with a coconut than the hornet stings in the
mouth! I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Cheri

Dave, as it happened, we did hit the.nest at night. The important thing is we got rid of
them.

N.

I carried an EpiPen around for my allergy to tree nuts, when it cost $20, but since it
expired, and the cost went up, I don't any more. I am just super careful about what
I eat. And my insurance doesn't pay anything for brand name Rxs. Generics are paid
at 100%.

N.

On 10/3/2017 10:59 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I carried an EpiPen around for my allergy to tree nuts, when it cost $20, but since it
> expired, and the cost went up, I don't any more. I am just super careful about what
> I eat. And my insurance doesn't pay anything for brand name Rxs. Generics are paid
> at 100%.
>
> N.
>

There is a generic now. CVS has them for $110 for a 2 pack

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 10/3/2017 10:59 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > I carried an EpiPen around for my allergy to tree nuts, when it cost $20, but since it
> > expired, and the cost went up, I don't any more. I am just super careful about what
> > I eat. And my insurance doesn't pay anything for brand name Rxs. Generics are paid
> > at 100%.
> >
> > N.
> >
>
> There is a generic now. CVS has them for $110 for a 2 pack

Ed... is that with insurance co-pay or just straight up cash?
I suppose it still is prescription though?

On 10/4/2017 9:58 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 10/3/2017 10:59 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> I carried an EpiPen around for my allergy to tree nuts, when it cost $20, but since it
>>> expired, and the cost went up, I don't any more. I am just super careful about what
>>> I eat. And my insurance doesn't pay anything for brand name Rxs. Generics are paid
>>> at 100%.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>>
>> There is a generic now. CVS has them for $110 for a 2 pack
>
> Ed... is that with insurance co-pay or just straight up cash?
> I suppose it still is prescription though?
>

Cash price.

On 2017-10-04, MaryL -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:

> Wow! That's frightening. I'm really glad you went to the hospital
> instead of trying to take care of it yourself. I had a friend who died
> from anaphylatic shock after being stung by a wasp.

.....and ppl laugh when I shoot down every damn wasp/hornet in sight!!
Seriously, I have so many cans of Raid Wasp & Hornet killer. I carry
two on my hip, like a gunslinger (well, actually I now have 'em placed
"strategically" around the place).

Green-canned Walmart wasp/hornet spray is useless. Our wasp/hornets
typically shake off the poison liquid and fly away. Raid really kills
the little bastids. Twenty-foot stream. Knocks 'em down on contact.

If it's actually "wasps" (ground nesters) rather than their high paper
hangin cousins, take a plate of fresh fruit salad and place it on the
ground about 40-50 ft from you and yer gang. They will glom onto that
plate and totally ignore you. Keep an eye on the plate. I've seen a
nest of "meat bees" empty a full plate of fruit salad in 2-3 hrs. 8|

nb

Gary wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>Nancy2 wrote:
>> > I carried an EpiPen around for my allergy to tree nuts, when it cost $20, but since it
>> > expired, and the cost went up, I don't any more. I am just super careful about what
>> > I eat. And my insurance doesn't pay anything for brand name Rxs. Generics are paid
>> > at 100%.
>>
>> There is a generic now. CVS has them for $110 for a 2 pack
>
>Ed... is that with insurance co-pay or just straight up cash?
>I suppose it still is prescription though?

If Rx I'd think the cost would depend on one's ins... would also
depend on one's pharmacy. I've found that the small mom n' pop
pharmacys charge higher prices and higher copays. At a large pharmacy
like Rite Aid I get certain generics for free. Some ins consider a
drug for maintenance and so if it keeps you out of the hospital the
cost is zero. I get my nebulizer Albuterol solution for free at Rite
Aid but the small mom n pop in town charges $34 for the same Rx. The
small mom n pop charges more for everything including OTC... I began
buying there when they first opened to support a local business but
they became too expensive... and the owner was previously a pharmacist
at the Rite Aid in town.

On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 09:58:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 10/3/2017 10:59 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> > I carried an EpiPen around for my allergy to tree nuts, when it cost $20, but since it
>> > expired, and the cost went up, I don't any more. I am just super careful about what
>> > I eat. And my insurance doesn't pay anything for brand name Rxs. Generics are paid
>> > at 100%.
>> >
>> > N.
>> >
>>
>> There is a generic now. CVS has them for $110 for a 2 pack
>
>Ed... is that with insurance co-pay or just straight up cash?
>I suppose it still is prescription though?

It's time to check
GoodRx.com. The site will give you prices at different pharmacies in
your area. In my area, a package of 2 pens, range from $142, $145,
$147, $270. $270 is Target. The list does not include places like
Costco and Sams, you would have to call them.
Anyone getting prescriptions should use the GoodRx site. GoodRx
often has discount coupons good for a specific time. In the beginning
I noticed that I saved a lot by using Goodrx and after a while (in my
community at least) all the major pharmacies had the same discounted
price for my medications. My cynical view is that the discounted
values from the drug companies were always there they just never got
passed on to the consumer.
Ed is right. After the big scandal involving the manufacturer
increasing Epi-Pen prices by 1000s, another company has made a
generic.
Janet US

On 2017-10-04 11:27 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-10-04, MaryL -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
>
>> Wow! That's frightening. I'm really glad you went to the hospital
>> instead of trying to take care of it yourself. I had a friend who died
>> from anaphylatic shock after being stung by a wasp.
>
> ....and ppl laugh when I shoot down every damn wasp/hornet in sight!!
> Seriously, I have so many cans of Raid Wasp & Hornet killer. I carry
> two on my hip, like a gunslinger (well, actually I now have 'em placed
> "strategically" around the place).
>
> Green-canned Walmart wasp/hornet spray is useless. Our wasp/hornets
> typically shake off the poison liquid and fly away. Raid really kills
> the little bastids. Twenty-foot stream. Knocks 'em down on contact.

Black Flag used to make a good one. Years ago we lived in a house that
had a pear tree in the yard. The fallen pears attracted a lot of
hornets. One day I saw one sitting on a pear so I shot a blast in its
direction from about 10 feet away. I missed by about 6" but the hornet
fell off. Another climbed up from inside the pear and fell, and then
another and another and another..... dozens of them. I was surprised
that so many could fit inside one pear, but the spray was strong enough
to kill them all.

I can't find that stuff any more but found Wilson's product to be
excellent. You can kill individual hornets with a shot that gets close
to them. A good shot into the nest at night will usually take care of
the entire colony.
>
> If it's actually "wasps" (ground nesters) rather than their high paper
> hangin cousins, take a plate of fresh fruit salad and place it on the
> ground about 40-50 ft from you and yer gang. They will glom onto that
> plate and totally ignore you. Keep an eye on the plate. I've seen a
> nest of "meat bees" empty a full plate of fruit salad in 2-3 hrs. 8|


I won't be ignoring them in the future. I had two close encounters with
them yesterday. One landed on my hand while I was getting on my
motorcycle and later on a second one landed on me while I was stopped
for a red light. About an hour later I was at the dog park and one got
close and I got up and left. My recent incident put a hornet scare into
me. Fact is, I was out running errands on the bike today and realized I
left my epipen at home. I am supposed to carry it all the time. Since
this is hornet season I really should not be without it.

FYI...I have an Rx for an OTC capsule because it is cheaper to get it through the
pharmacy. It isn't a capsule the insurance still covers because it is OTC.

I will ask my MD about the generic. Thanks.

N.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 09:58:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/3/2017 10:59 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> >> > I carried an EpiPen around for my allergy to tree nuts, when it cost $20, but since it
> >> > expired, and the cost went up, I don't any more. I am just super careful about what
> >> > I eat. And my insurance doesn't pay anything for brand name Rxs. Generics are paid
> >> > at 100%.
> >> >
> >> > N.
> >> >
> >>
> >> There is a generic now. CVS has them for $110 for a 2 pack
> >
> >Ed... is that with insurance co-pay or just straight up cash?
> >I suppose it still is prescription though?
>
> It's time to check
> GoodRx.com. The site will give you prices at different pharmacies in
> your area. In my area, a package of 2 pens, range from $142, $145,
> $147, $270. $270 is Target. The list does not include places like
> Costco and Sams, you would have to call them.
> Anyone getting prescriptions should use the GoodRx site.

Thank you for that info, Janet. I don't need an epipen but I
would like my mom to have one on hand. She does have medicare and
suppliment insurance though so her getting one shouldn't cost
that much even with unused and expiration date.

Right now my sister is living with her and helping out. That
said, sister is often gone for many hours each day so it would be
nice for mom to have one in an emergency, seeing how she is
highly allergic to bee stings. She does live way out in the
country so even a 911 call might take a bit longer to get to her
house.

I worry about her constantly being so far out and alone much of
the time. She knows my offer to move in with me if ever necessary
or requested. For now, my sister lives there to help out.