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A friend gave me a half-dozen ears of corn. I'd like to use 'em by
tomorrow fer some corn chowder. I bought some milk and cream and butter, but forgot the dang potatoes. I'll get 'em tomorrow. Anywho, anybody have a good corn chowder recipe? I kinda like this one, but will consider others: <https://www.marthastewart.com/1106715/summer-corn-chowder> I have 16oz of cream and half a gal of milk, so am not worried about half-n-half. I might jes sub whole cream fer the half-n-half. ![]() nb |
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On 10/6/2017 12:04 PM, notbob wrote:
> A friend gave me a half-dozen ears of corn. I'd like to use 'em by > tomorrow fer some corn chowder. I bought some milk and cream and > butter, but forgot the dang potatoes. I'll get 'em tomorrow. > > Anywho, anybody have a good corn chowder recipe? I kinda like this > one, but will consider others: > > <https://www.marthastewart.com/1106715/summer-corn-chowder> > > I have 16oz of cream and half a gal of milk, so am not worried about > half-n-half. I might jes sub whole cream fer the half-n-half. ![]() > > nb > I have tried and liked this one: http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/corn_chowder/ |
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On 6 Oct 2017 17:04:38 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>A friend gave me a half-dozen ears of corn. I'd like to use 'em by >tomorrow fer some corn chowder. I bought some milk and cream and >butter, but forgot the dang potatoes. I'll get 'em tomorrow. > >Anywho, anybody have a good corn chowder recipe? I kinda like this >one, but will consider others: > ><https://www.marthastewart.com/1106715/summer-corn-chowder> > >I have 16oz of cream and half a gal of milk, so am not worried about >half-n-half. I might jes sub whole cream fer the half-n-half. ![]() > >nb I don't think I've ever made it, although it is something I will order when out and like it. Maybe instead of whole cream, when it is cooked let it come off the boil/simmer and add a can of Carnation, wonderful how that gives the creamiest flavour to seafood chowder, not a trace of the Carnation milk flavour though. |
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On 6 Oct 2017 17:04:38 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>A friend gave me a half-dozen ears of corn. I'd like to use 'em by >tomorrow fer some corn chowder. I bought some milk and cream and >butter, but forgot the dang potatoes. I'll get 'em tomorrow. > >Anywho, anybody have a good corn chowder recipe? I kinda like this >one, but will consider others: > ><https://www.marthastewart.com/1106715/summer-corn-chowder> > >I have 16oz of cream and half a gal of milk, so am not worried about >half-n-half. I might jes sub whole cream fer the half-n-half. ![]() > >nb that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort of 'milk' the cob. Wish I had some corn cobs right now so I could make that recipe. Good eats to you! Janet US |
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On 2017-10-06, dejamos > wrote:
> I have tried and liked this one: > http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/corn_chowder/ Thnx, dejamos. I looked fer simplyrecipes.com, but didn't find it. You know it's much more real ....it has a bay leaf! ![]() nb |
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On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote:
> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw > the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the > corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort > of 'milk' the cob. No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() nb |
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On 10/6/2017 2:37 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-10-06, dejamos > wrote: > >> I have tried and liked this one: >> http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/corn_chowder/ > > Thnx, dejamos. I looked fer simplyrecipes.com, but didn't find it. > You know it's much more real ....it has a bay leaf! ![]() > > nb > IMO, bay leaves make a big difference in flavor. I prefer Turkish to California, though. California bay leaves have a slightly menthol aftertaste to me. |
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On 2017-10-06, dejamos > wrote:
> IMO, bay leaves make a big difference in flavor. Agree. > I prefer Turkish to California, though. California bay leaves have > a slightly menthol aftertaste to me. Never hadda Turkish bay leaf, so am clueless on this issue. I suspect mine are CA bay leaves, as they allegedly come from the San Francisco Spice Co. I have bacon grease, but need to pick up a "red" grn ppr and some spuds. ![]() nb |
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On 6 Oct 2017 19:39:59 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw >> the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the >> corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort >> of 'milk' the cob. > >No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() > >nb You're welcome. See! A real cooking exchange can happen in this group ![]() Janet US |
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On 10/6/2017 3:28 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-10-06, dejamos > wrote: > >> IMO, bay leaves make a big difference in flavor. > > Agree. > >> I prefer Turkish to California, though. California bay leaves have >> a slightly menthol aftertaste to me. > > Never hadda Turkish bay leaf, so am clueless on this issue. I suspect > mine are CA bay leaves, as they allegedly come from the San Francisco > Spice Co. I have bacon grease, but need to pick up a "red" grn ppr > and some spuds. ![]() > > nb > Turkish bay leaves were all that were available when I was growing up in Texas; I did not know California bay leaves existed and came from a different tree until relatively recently. The last time I ran out of them I bought a small package of both to compare. I knew immediately that I much preferred the Turkish. I think it was partly because it was the more familiar one and partly because of that slight menthol aftertaste I perceived in the California leaves. Just because yours came from the San Francisco Spice House does not necessarily mean they are California leaves. ![]() Good luck with the chowder! |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2017 23:38:01 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote: >On Fri 06 Oct 2017 02:37:59p, U.S. Janet B. told us... > >> On 6 Oct 2017 19:39:59 GMT, notbob > wrote: >> >>>On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote: >>> >>>> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to >>>> draw the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut >>>> off the corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as >>>> well as sort of 'milk' the cob. >>> >>>No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() >>> >>>nb >> >> You're welcome. See! A real cooking exchange can happen in this >> group ![]() >> Janet US >> > >My mother always used to scrape the cob after cutting the kernels when >she made cream style corn. The yummy goodness is there, why waste it. Perhaps it is old fashioned but that was the way I learned to take the kernels off a cob. Of course, if you were making a raw corn and tomato type salad, the bits and milky part would not be pretty in a salad but in a soup, perfect. Janet US |
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
news ![]() On 6 Oct 2017 19:39:59 GMT, notbob > wrote: >On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw >> the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the >> corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort >> of 'milk' the cob. > >No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() > >nb You're welcome. See! A real cooking exchange can happen in this group ![]() Janet US == HALLELUJAH!!! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 14:35:18 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: >"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message >news ![]() >On 6 Oct 2017 19:39:59 GMT, notbob > wrote: > >>On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote: >> >>> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw >>> the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the >>> corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort >>> of 'milk' the cob. >> >>No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() >> >>nb > >You're welcome. See! A real cooking exchange can happen in this >group ![]() >Janet US > >== > >HALLELUJAH!!! Hi O! Is corn on the cob something that is eaten in your sphere? Janet US |
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dejamos wrote:
> > I have tried and liked this one: > http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/corn_chowder/ That one looks about right to me. ![]() |
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
... On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 14:35:18 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote: >"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message >news ![]() >On 6 Oct 2017 19:39:59 GMT, notbob > wrote: > >>On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote: >> >>> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw >>> the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the >>> corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort >>> of 'milk' the cob. >> >>No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() >> >>nb > >You're welcome. See! A real cooking exchange can happen in this >group ![]() >Janet US > >== > >HALLELUJAH!!! Hi O! Is corn on the cob something that is eaten in your sphere? Janet US == It is indeed ![]() TBH we buy mostly canned. It tastes great to us and I can't open a can without having to have a few tastes before it is heated ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 17:21:41 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote: >"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message .. . > >On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 14:35:18 +0100, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message >>news ![]() >>On 6 Oct 2017 19:39:59 GMT, notbob > wrote: >> >>>On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote: >>> >>>> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw >>>> the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the >>>> corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort >>>> of 'milk' the cob. >>> >>>No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() >>> >>>nb >> >>You're welcome. See! A real cooking exchange can happen in this >>group ![]() >>Janet US >> >>== >> >>HALLELUJAH!!! > >Hi O! Is corn on the cob something that is eaten in your sphere? >Janet US > >== > >It is indeed ![]() >TBH we buy mostly canned. It tastes great to us and I can't open a can >without having to have a few tastes before it is heated ![]() for some reason I thought Corn on the cob was a rare oddity on that side of the pond. Janet US |
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 10:40:42 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 17:21:41 +0100, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message . .. >> >>On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 14:35:18 +0100, "Ophelia" > >>wrote: >> >>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message >>>news ![]() >>>On 6 Oct 2017 19:39:59 GMT, notbob > wrote: >>> >>>>On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote: >>>> >>>>> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw >>>>> the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the >>>>> corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort >>>>> of 'milk' the cob. >>>> >>>>No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() >>>> >>>>nb >>> >>>You're welcome. See! A real cooking exchange can happen in this >>>group ![]() >>>Janet US >>> >>>== >>> >>>HALLELUJAH!!! >> >>Hi O! Is corn on the cob something that is eaten in your sphere? >>Janet US >> >>== >> >>It is indeed ![]() >>TBH we buy mostly canned. It tastes great to us and I can't open a can >>without having to have a few tastes before it is heated ![]() > >for some reason I thought Corn on the cob was a rare oddity on that >side of the pond. >Janet US Nope my grandmother grew it in the flower bed that surrounded the garden fountain during the war years, 'dig for victory' or somesuch ![]() |
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
... On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 17:21:41 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote: >"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message .. . > >On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 14:35:18 +0100, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message >>news ![]() >>On 6 Oct 2017 19:39:59 GMT, notbob > wrote: >> >>>On 2017-10-06, U.S Janet B > wrote: >>> >>>> that sounds like a good recipe. I am assuming that you know to draw >>>> the back of your knife down over the cob after you have cut off the >>>> corn kernels? That move will remove any little bits as well as sort >>>> of 'milk' the cob. >>> >>>No, I did not know! Thanx fer the tip. ![]() >>> >>>nb >> >>You're welcome. See! A real cooking exchange can happen in this >>group ![]() >>Janet US >> >>== >> >>HALLELUJAH!!! > >Hi O! Is corn on the cob something that is eaten in your sphere? >Janet US > >== > >It is indeed ![]() >TBH we buy mostly canned. It tastes great to us and I can't open a can >without having to have a few tastes before it is heated ![]() for some reason I thought Corn on the cob was a rare oddity on that side of the pond. Janet US == Heck no ![]() ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2017-10-07, dejamos > wrote:
> Just because yours came from the San Francisco Spice House does not > necessarily mean they are California leaves. ![]() I suspect they are CA bay leaves. I've never smelled the two, back-to-back, but I can detect a tad bit o' "menthol" (weird you would choose that particular term). > Good luck with the chowder! It's going OK. I chose Elise's recipe (Simply). I'm about half way through. Jes added the spuds, which are Russet's, not Yukon Golds. Tastes pretty dang good, so far. Only prob was the corn silk! Getting that crap off'n the cob and getting rid of it was a real PIA!! I used my scalloped bread knife to take off the kernals (tip). I also "milked" each cob prior to tossing 'em in the chowder (tip). I recall, now, the "milk" that would come off the de-kernalling machines in our cannery. Mechanical machines that would strip the corn off'n the cob, but required lube oil to keep them functioning properly. So, off the kernal stripping machines, drooling onto the floor, were trails of cob milk, corn oil, and lube oil. I wish I'd paid more attention to the "corn silk" problem. ![]() nb |
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On 7 Oct 2017 22:31:20 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-10-07, dejamos > wrote: > >> Just because yours came from the San Francisco Spice House does not >> necessarily mean they are California leaves. ![]() > >I suspect they are CA bay leaves. I've never smelled the two, >back-to-back, but I can detect a tad bit o' "menthol" (weird you would >choose that particular term). > >> Good luck with the chowder! > >It's going OK. I chose Elise's recipe (Simply). > >I'm about half way through. Jes added the spuds, which are Russet's, >not Yukon Golds. Tastes pretty dang good, so far. Only prob was the >corn silk! Getting that crap off'n the cob and getting rid of it was >a real PIA!! > >I used my scalloped bread knife to take off the kernals (tip). I also >"milked" each cob prior to tossing 'em in the chowder (tip). I >recall, now, the "milk" that would come off the de-kernalling machines >in our cannery. Mechanical machines that would strip the corn off'n >the cob, but required lube oil to keep them functioning properly. So, >off the kernal stripping machines, drooling onto the floor, were >trails of cob milk, corn oil, and lube oil. I wish I'd paid more >attention to the "corn silk" problem. ![]() > >nb corn silk removal: Get the big hanks of it off. Under cool running water, grasp the cob in both hands with fingers wrapping around the cob. Keeping hands and fingers wrapped around the cob, twist your hands back and forth, one hand moving forward the while the other moves back. This produces a sort of scrubbing motion that twists the strings away and washes them away. I've been doing this darn near all my life and it works. Janet US |
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On 10/7/2017 5:31 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-10-07, dejamos > wrote: > >> Just because yours came from the San Francisco Spice House does not >> necessarily mean they are California leaves. ![]() > > I suspect they are CA bay leaves. I've never smelled the two, > back-to-back, but I can detect a tad bit o' "menthol" (weird you would > choose that particular term). > >> Good luck with the chowder! > > It's going OK. I chose Elise's recipe (Simply). > > I'm about half way through. Jes added the spuds, which are Russet's, > not Yukon Golds. Tastes pretty dang good, so far. Only prob was the > corn silk! Getting that crap off'n the cob and getting rid of it was > a real PIA!! > > I used my scalloped bread knife to take off the kernals (tip). I also > "milked" each cob prior to tossing 'em in the chowder (tip). I > recall, now, the "milk" that would come off the de-kernalling machines > in our cannery. Mechanical machines that would strip the corn off'n > the cob, but required lube oil to keep them functioning properly. So, > off the kernal stripping machines, drooling onto the floor, were > trails of cob milk, corn oil, and lube oil. I wish I'd paid more > attention to the "corn silk" problem. ![]() > > nb > Menthol was the best word I could think of to describe it and if you are smelling it then you probably do have the California leaves. I'm glad it's going well. The only solution I know of for the corn silk problem is to steam the cobs in their husks either in a microwave or on the stovetop for 5 minutes. (I think I saw the microwave method on this newsgroup years ago.) The corn silk peels right off with the husks. One of the best tips I've ever seen on this group. |
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On 10/7/2017 6:01 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2017 22:31:20 GMT, notbob > wrote: > >> On 2017-10-07, dejamos > wrote: >> >>> Just because yours came from the San Francisco Spice House does not >>> necessarily mean they are California leaves. ![]() >> >> I suspect they are CA bay leaves. I've never smelled the two, >> back-to-back, but I can detect a tad bit o' "menthol" (weird you would >> choose that particular term). >> >>> Good luck with the chowder! >> >> It's going OK. I chose Elise's recipe (Simply). >> >> I'm about half way through. Jes added the spuds, which are Russet's, >> not Yukon Golds. Tastes pretty dang good, so far. Only prob was the >> corn silk! Getting that crap off'n the cob and getting rid of it was >> a real PIA!! >> >> I used my scalloped bread knife to take off the kernals (tip). I also >> "milked" each cob prior to tossing 'em in the chowder (tip). I >> recall, now, the "milk" that would come off the de-kernalling machines >> in our cannery. Mechanical machines that would strip the corn off'n >> the cob, but required lube oil to keep them functioning properly. So, >> off the kernal stripping machines, drooling onto the floor, were >> trails of cob milk, corn oil, and lube oil. I wish I'd paid more >> attention to the "corn silk" problem. ![]() >> >> nb > > corn silk removal: Get the big hanks of it off. Under cool running > water, grasp the cob in both hands with fingers wrapping around the > cob. Keeping hands and fingers wrapped around the cob, twist your > hands back and forth, one hand moving forward the while the other > moves back. This produces a sort of scrubbing motion that twists the > strings away and washes them away. I've been doing this darn near all > my life and it works. > Janet US > Replied before I saw this. Looks like it would also work. ![]() |
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On 2017-10-07, dejamos > wrote:
> I'm glad it's going well. I dealt with the "corn-silk" issue by yanking most of it off and putting it in the kitchen garbage bag. I then took each cob and removed the remaining silk by carefully picking it off under running water. It seems I got most of it, cuz I see none in the chowder, itself. I will say one thing. I did NOT cook the corn fer 20 mins, as the recipe suggests. This is cuz sweet corn (which I had) gets tougher (harder to chew) the longer it cooks. I realize many folks prefer this. Even I usta eat corn-on-the-cob that had been boiled waaaaay too long. "Yellow corn" is notorious for this style of preparation. Then I discovered "sweet corn". These are sweet corn hybrids (very high suger content) and can be edible at an almost raw stage. I discovered this at my first bluegrass festival when I ordered a "cob ona stick". The guy peeled a fresh cob of corn, jammed a stick in one end, and dunked the entire cob ina huge tub of boiling water. He removed the cob after only 60 secs and slathered (see!) it with butter and handed it to me. I added salt-to-taste and is one of the best taste treats I've ever eaten (tender, too!). I've since discovered "sweet corn" hybrids benefit from a very short cook times and longer cooking only makes 'em tougher. It's almost impossible to make "sweet corn" inedibly tough, but I could tell it the kernals were actually becoming more "chewie", so I only cooked the chowder only long enough to further soften the chopped taters (about 6-7 mins). ![]() nb |
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On 10/8/2017 10:06 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-10-07, dejamos > wrote: > > I've since discovered "sweet corn" hybrids benefit from a very short > cook times and longer cooking only makes 'em tougher. It's almost > impossible to make "sweet corn" inedibly tough, but I could tell it > the kernals were actually becoming more "chewie", so I only cooked the > chowder only long enough to further soften the chopped taters (about > 6-7 mins). ![]() > > nb I agree with you there. Once I have steamed the corn and removed the husks and the corn silk I do not cook it any further other than to warm it up - so I add it to soups, stews, and sautes at the last minute no matter what the recipe says and only cook it long enough to heat it. I am pretty sure I did that with the chowder when I made it but did not think to mention it. (I almost always make adjustments to recipes based on what I know and my preferences and I don't even think about it.) |
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