On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 7:20:09 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>
> I'll have to find the elements. I know where they are in a regular oven
> but in a microwave/convection oven ...
>
>
> --
> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

Well, now I'm confused. I didn't know that you were talking about a microwave/convection oven. It's odd that you have to preheat that. We used to have a range with a microwave mode in the oven. I never used it because I was scared to death of the thing!

KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Casa de los peregrinos > wrote in newssnsvg$18h8$4
> @gioia.aioe.org:
>
> > On 10/24/2017 11:20 AM, KenK wrote:
> >> dsi1 > wrote in
> >> :
> >>
> >>> On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 7:18:14 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>> Sinilar working. Probably this manual is for a newer model. My
> manual
> >>>> doesn't go into nearly that much detail.
> > > > >
> >>>> The biggest problem with my oven is it takes a VERY long time to
> >>>> reach the required temperature, and when it does even sitting
> next to
> >>>> it I can barely hear it beep. Very annoying. Be nice if I could
> set >>>> the temp and come back later to see if it's ready, like a
> regular >>>> oven, but this one only has that elusive beep. No
> message and it >>>> switches out of convection mode if I don't almost
> immediately start >>>> baking after it preheats.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >>>> --
> >>>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
> > > >
> >>> My guess is that one of your elements is not working. Turn on the
> oven
> >>> and make sure that both elements are on. If one is not glowing,
> >>> replace it. This is assuming that both elements are on during the
> >>> preheat cycle.
> > > >
> >>
> >> I'll have to find the elements. I know where they are in a regular
> oven
> >> but in a microwave/convection oven ...
> >>
> >>
> >
> > The ceiling of the cooking enclosure - in a wonderful location that
> > is nearly impossible to clean when that butter you were melting
> > without a lid on it went all Joe vs. the Volcano on you...
> >
> >
> > ;-(
>
> Ah yes. I remember now. I'll look next time I try it. Maybe tomorrow.
> Baking bread in my bread machine today.

Cool! What recipe did you settle on?

I have a bazillion of them here, some in books but more in softcopy.
If you want some in a new line to play with, let me know what sounds
interesting but you havent tried yet and I'll see what I have in that
arena.

One of the new things I am playing with is 'Bakers Brew Coffee Spice'
(Savory Spice Shop product). I'm checking various black pumpernickel
types over and so far I'm liking it mixed with black cumin seed and
Kala Jeera leaf (the actual leaf, not the wikipedia mis-attribute that
says Kala Jeera is black cumin seed and very hard to find).

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dsi1 > wrote in
:

> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 7:20:09 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>>
>> I'll have to find the elements. I know where they are in a regular
>> oven but in a microwave/convection oven ...
>>
>>
>> --
>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>
> Well, now I'm confused. I didn't know that you were talking about a
> microwave/convection oven. It's odd that you have to preheat that. We
> used to have a range with a microwave mode in the oven. I never used
> it because I was scared to death of the thing!

I'm confused about the preheating. And the long time to do so! About 5
minutes! For that little space. Annoying. And it so poorly tells you when
it's ready. Surprizing, otherwise I like the microwave.

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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

"cshenk" > wrote in news:6Madnbi5eY3yym_EnZ2dnUU7-
:

> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Casa de los peregrinos > wrote in newssnsvg$18h8$4
>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>> > On 10/24/2017 11:20 AM, KenK wrote:
>> >> dsi1 > wrote in
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >>> On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 7:18:14 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>> > > > >
>> >>>> Sinilar working. Probably this manual is for a newer model. My
>> manual
>> >>>> doesn't go into nearly that much detail.
>> > > > >
>> >>>> The biggest problem with my oven is it takes a VERY long time to
>> >>>> reach the required temperature, and when it does even sitting
>> next to
>> >>>> it I can barely hear it beep. Very annoying. Be nice if I could
>> set >>>> the temp and come back later to see if it's ready, like a
>> regular >>>> oven, but this one only has that elusive beep. No
>> message and it >>>> switches out of convection mode if I don't almost
>> immediately start >>>> baking after it preheats.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>> > > >
>> >>> My guess is that one of your elements is not working. Turn on the
>> oven
>> >>> and make sure that both elements are on. If one is not glowing,
>> >>> replace it. This is assuming that both elements are on during the
>> >>> preheat cycle.
>> > > >
>> >>
>> >> I'll have to find the elements. I know where they are in a regular
>> oven
>> >> but in a microwave/convection oven ...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > The ceiling of the cooking enclosure - in a wonderful location that
>> > is nearly impossible to clean when that butter you were melting
>> > without a lid on it went all Joe vs. the Volcano on you...
>> >
>> >
>> > ;-(
>>
>> Ah yes. I remember now. I'll look next time I try it. Maybe tomorrow.
>> Baking bread in my bread machine today.
>
> Cool! What recipe did you settle on?
>
> I have a bazillion of them here, some in books but more in softcopy.
> If you want some in a new line to play with, let me know what sounds
> interesting but you havent tried yet and I'll see what I have in that
> arena.
>
> One of the new things I am playing with is 'Bakers Brew Coffee Spice'
> (Savory Spice Shop product). I'm checking various black pumpernickel
> types over and so far I'm liking it mixed with black cumin seed and
> Kala Jeera leaf (the actual leaf, not the wikipedia mis-attribute that
> says Kala Jeera is black cumin seed and very hard to find).
>

This is a rather elaborite recipe for a gluten free sandwich bread. Takes
about a half hour to prepare the ingredients for a bread machine, and
another three hours to bake. Still interested?



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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

On 10/27/2017 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
> dsi1 > wrote in
> :
>
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 7:20:09 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll have to find the elements. I know where they are in a regular
>>> oven but in a microwave/convection oven ...
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>>
>> Well, now I'm confused. I didn't know that you were talking about a
>> microwave/convection oven. It's odd that you have to preheat that. We
>> used to have a range with a microwave mode in the oven. I never used
>> it because I was scared to death of the thing!
>
> I'm confused about the preheating. And the long time to do so! About 5
> minutes! For that little space. Annoying. And it so poorly tells you when
> it's ready. Surprizing, otherwise I like the microwave.
>

The preheating should be for the browning/crisping pan, not the entire
MW oven space.

KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "cshenk" > wrote in news:6Madnbi5eY3yym_EnZ2dnUU7-
> :
>
> > KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> Casa de los peregrinos > wrote in
> newssnsvg$18h8$4 >> @gioia.aioe.org:
> >>
> >> > On 10/24/2017 11:20 AM, KenK wrote:
> >> >> dsi1 > wrote in
> >> >> :
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 7:18:14 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> Sinilar working. Probably this manual is for a newer model.
> My >> manual
> >> >>>> doesn't go into nearly that much detail.
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> The biggest problem with my oven is it takes a VERY long time
> to >> >>>> reach the required temperature, and when it does even
> sitting >> next to
> >> >>>> it I can barely hear it beep. Very annoying. Be nice if I
> could >> set >>>> the temp and come back later to see if it's ready,
> like a >> regular >>>> oven, but this one only has that elusive beep.
> No >> message and it >>>> switches out of convection mode if I don't
> almost >> immediately start >>>> baking after it preheats.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
> >> > > >
> >> >>> My guess is that one of your elements is not working. Turn on
> the >> oven
> >> >>> and make sure that both elements are on. If one is not glowing,
> >> >>> replace it. This is assuming that both elements are on during
> the >> >>> preheat cycle.
> >> > > >
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll have to find the elements. I know where they are in a
> regular >> oven
> >> >> but in a microwave/convection oven ...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The ceiling of the cooking enclosure - in a wonderful location
> that >> > is nearly impossible to clean when that butter you were
> melting >> > without a lid on it went all Joe vs. the Volcano on
> you... >> >
> >> >
> >> > ;-(
> >>
> >> Ah yes. I remember now. I'll look next time I try it. Maybe
> tomorrow. >> Baking bread in my bread machine today.
> >
> > Cool! What recipe did you settle on?
> >
> > I have a bazillion of them here, some in books but more in softcopy.
> > If you want some in a new line to play with, let me know what sounds
> > interesting but you havent tried yet and I'll see what I have in
> > that arena.
> >
> > One of the new things I am playing with is 'Bakers Brew Coffee
> > Spice' (Savory Spice Shop product). I'm checking various black
> > pumpernickel types over and so far I'm liking it mixed with black
> > cumin seed and Kala Jeera leaf (the actual leaf, not the wikipedia
> > mis-attribute that says Kala Jeera is black cumin seed and very
> > hard to find).
> >
>
> This is a rather elaborite recipe for a gluten free sandwich bread.
> Takes about a half hour to prepare the ingredients for a bread
> machine, and another three hours to bake. Still interested?

Sure! I do not personally need GF but I am always interested in what
another makes!

One of the things it seems to need for GF, is multiple flours so that
adds time factor.

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Casa lo pensa > wrote in
news
> On 10/20/2017 2:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Casa lo pensa"Â* wrote in message
>> news >>
>> On 10/19/2017 12:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> On 10/19/2017 9:37 AM, KenK wrote:
>>>> My oven is broken and I want some breaded roasted/baked chicken
>>>> thighs. Is
>>>> there a way to make something like that in my Kenmore Elite MW? It
>>>> has a convection setting but it's a PITA to use. There is a simpler
>>>> Auto Roast setting that uses the convection but the only poultry
>>>> settings it has are
>>>> turkey breasts and whole chicken.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions? I also have an ancient little toaster oven. I wonder
>>>> if it would work for this? I've not used it for decades. Can't
>>>> remember what it
>>>> was used for.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Either can work.Â* My first choice would be the toaster oven.Â* Just
>>> don't set the temp too high or the outside will burn before the
>>> inside get done.
>>>
>>> In the microwave, use one of the chicken setting but keep an eye on
>>> it so it does not get overdone.Â* It will use a low power microwave
>>> yet use real heat for better exture.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> He does have a convection setting.Â* On mine, I can use both
>>> convection and MW at the same time.Â* I haven't used it much but it
>>> is good.
>>>
>>> It gets the speed of the MW and the heat of the convection.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Might not be the same model, but:
>>
>> https://c.shld.net/assets/docs/spin_prod_833476512.pdf
>>
>> pgs. 27-31
>>
>> ==
>>
>> It almost certainly does work in the same way.
>>
>>
>
> Hope we get some report back as to what was decided on.
>

As someone here suggested, I used the Auto Roast for whole chicken
setting of the microwave. Seems to use only convection, not microwave
too. No effort. Just prepared the chicken thighs - breaded, sprinkled on
salt, pepper & garlic. Put in glass casserole dish just in case microwave
was used. Set weight to 2.5 lb, lowest available (chicken was a bit less
than 2 lb). Hit Start button. 45 minutes later had four very nicely done
chicken thighs.


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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

"cshenk" > wrote in news:GN-dncsXqPAxRm7EnZ2dnUU7-
:

> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in news:6Madnbi5eY3yym_EnZ2dnUU7-
>> :
>>
>> > KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >> Casa de los peregrinos > wrote in
>> newssnsvg$18h8$4 >> @gioia.aioe.org:
>> >>
>> >> > On 10/24/2017 11:20 AM, KenK wrote:
>> >> >> dsi1 > wrote in
>> >> >> :
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 7:18:14 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> >>>> Sinilar working. Probably this manual is for a newer model.
>> My >> manual
>> >> >>>> doesn't go into nearly that much detail.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> >>>> The biggest problem with my oven is it takes a VERY long time
>> to >> >>>> reach the required temperature, and when it does even
>> sitting >> next to
>> >> >>>> it I can barely hear it beep. Very annoying. Be nice if I
>> could >> set >>>> the temp and come back later to see if it's ready,
>> like a >> regular >>>> oven, but this one only has that elusive beep.
>> No >> message and it >>>> switches out of convection mode if I don't
>> almost >> immediately start >>>> baking after it preheats.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>> My guess is that one of your elements is not working. Turn on
>> the >> oven
>> >> >>> and make sure that both elements are on. If one is not glowing,
>> >> >>> replace it. This is assuming that both elements are on during
>> the >> >>> preheat cycle.
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'll have to find the elements. I know where they are in a
>> regular >> oven
>> >> >> but in a microwave/convection oven ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > The ceiling of the cooking enclosure - in a wonderful location
>> that >> > is nearly impossible to clean when that butter you were
>> melting >> > without a lid on it went all Joe vs. the Volcano on
>> you... >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ;-(
>> >>
>> >> Ah yes. I remember now. I'll look next time I try it. Maybe
>> tomorrow. >> Baking bread in my bread machine today.
>> >
>> > Cool! What recipe did you settle on?
>> >
>> > I have a bazillion of them here, some in books but more in softcopy.
>> > If you want some in a new line to play with, let me know what sounds
>> > interesting but you havent tried yet and I'll see what I have in
>> > that arena.
>> >
>> > One of the new things I am playing with is 'Bakers Brew Coffee
>> > Spice' (Savory Spice Shop product). I'm checking various black
>> > pumpernickel types over and so far I'm liking it mixed with black
>> > cumin seed and Kala Jeera leaf (the actual leaf, not the wikipedia
>> > mis-attribute that says Kala Jeera is black cumin seed and very
>> > hard to find).
>> >
>>
>> This is a rather elaborite recipe for a gluten free sandwich bread.
>> Takes about a half hour to prepare the ingredients for a bread
>> machine, and another three hours to bake. Still interested?
>
> Sure! I do not personally need GF but I am always interested in what
> another makes!
>
> One of the things it seems to need for GF, is multiple flours so that
> adds time factor.
>

Will try to post recipe tomorrow. Been busy.



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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

"KenK" wrote in message ...

Casa lo pensa > wrote in
news
> On 10/20/2017 2:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Casa lo pensa"Â wrote in message
>> news >>
>> On 10/19/2017 12:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski"Â wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> On 10/19/2017 9:37 AM, KenK wrote:
>>>> My oven is broken and I want some breaded roasted/baked chicken
>>>> thighs. Is
>>>> there a way to make something like that in my Kenmore Elite MW? It
>>>> has a convection setting but it's a PITA to use. There is a simpler
>>>> Auto Roast setting that uses the convection but the only poultry
>>>> settings it has are
>>>> turkey breasts and whole chicken.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions? I also have an ancient little toaster oven. I wonder
>>>> if it would work for this? I've not used it for decades. Can't
>>>> remember what it
>>>> was used for.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Either can work. My first choice would be the toaster oven. Just
>>> don't set the temp too high or the outside will burn before the
>>> inside get done.
>>>
>>> In the microwave, use one of the chicken setting but keep an eye on
>>> it so it does not get overdone. It will use a low power microwave
>>> yet use real heat for better exture.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> He does have a convection setting. On mine, I can use both
>>> convection and MW at the same time. I haven't used it much but it
>>> is good.
>>>
>>> It gets the speed of the MW and the heat of the convection.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Might not be the same model, but:
>>
>> https://c.shld.net/assets/docs/spin_prod_833476512.pdf
>>
>> pgs. 27-31
>>
>> ==
>>
>> It almost certainly does work in the same way.
>>
>>
>
> Hope we get some report back as to what was decided on.
>

As someone here suggested, I used the Auto Roast for whole chicken
setting of the microwave. Seems to use only convection, not microwave
too. No effort. Just prepared the chicken thighs - breaded, sprinkled on
salt, pepper & garlic. Put in glass casserole dish just in case microwave
was used. Set weight to 2.5 lb, lowest available (chicken was a bit less
than 2 lb). Hit Start button. 45 minutes later had four very nicely done
chicken thighs.

==

I am very pleased if you are happy with it




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KenK > wrote in news:XnsA81E704D8B45invalidcom@
130.133.4.11:

> Will try to post recipe tomorrow. Been busy.
>
>

(My added notes)

Gluten-free flour mix:

From allergyawsomeness.com

4 C rice flour (brown or white - I use brown)
1 1/2 C potato starch (NOT flour - if you can't find this I get it from
Amazon)
2/3 C tapioca starch

From skinnychef.com

Spectacular Gluten-Free Bread in the Bread Machine

All ingredients at room temperature

Wet ingredients:

1 1/4 or 1 1/2 C water (110 degrees) or diary free alternative. I use 1 C
and 2 tbs water.
1/4 C olive oil
3 eggs (warm them in hot water)
1 tbs cider vinegar

Mix thoroughly and put in bread machine pan.

Dry ingredients:

3 1/3 C flour mix - room temp.
1 tbs Xanthan gum or Guar gum
1 tsp salt
2/3 C dry milk powder
2 tbs sugar (or agave or honey)

Mix thoroughly and pour on top of wet ingredients.

Scoop out a depression and add 2 1/4 tsp (1 pkg) bread machine yeast

Use gluten free bread machine setting.

I don't have a GF setting so first use dough cycle (About 20 min. of
kneading, 1 hr 10 min rise time.

When done remove pan from bread machine. This protects you from the
paddle stirring the bread when you change the menu - this will ruin the
loaf - GF bread won'r rise properly twice. Then use bake cycle. Replace
pan. Use again if necessary until bread reaches about 200 deg internally.
In my machine this takes 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 hr.

This is a great bread in a fairly large loaf.

I also make a smaller sandwich bread using sweet soy flour. Want that
recxupe too?




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KenK > wrote in
:

> KenK > wrote in news:XnsA81E704D8B45invalidcom@
> 130.133.4.11:
>
>> Will try to post recipe tomorrow. Been busy.
>>
>>
>
> (My added notes)
>
> Gluten-free flour mix:
>
> From allergyawsomeness.com
>
> 4 C rice flour (brown or white - I use brown)
> 1 1/2 C potato starch (NOT flour - if you can't find this I get it
> from Amazon)
> 2/3 C tapioca starch
>
> From skinnychef.com
>
> Spectacular Gluten-Free Bread in the Bread Machine
>
> All ingredients at room temperature
>
> Wet ingredients:
>
> 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 C water (110 degrees) or diary free alternative. I use
> 1 C and 2 tbs water.
> 1/4 C olive oil
> 3 eggs (warm them in hot water)
> 1 tbs cider vinegar
>
> Mix thoroughly and put in bread machine pan.
>
> Dry ingredients:
>
> 3 1/3 C flour mix - room temp.
> 1 tbs Xanthan gum or Guar gum
> 1 tsp salt
> 2/3 C dry milk powder
> 2 tbs sugar (or agave or honey)
>
> Mix thoroughly and pour on top of wet ingredients.
>
> Scoop out a depression and add 2 1/4 tsp (1 pkg) bread machine yeast
>
> Use gluten free bread machine setting.
>
> I don't have a GF setting so first use dough cycle (About 20 min. of
> kneading, 1 hr 10 min rise time.
>
> When done remove pan from bread machine. This protects you from the
> paddle stirring the bread when you change the menu - this will ruin
> the loaf - GF bread won'r rise properly twice. Then use bake cycle.
> Replace pan. Use again if necessary until bread reaches about 200 deg
> internally. In my machine this takes 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 hr.
>
> This is a great bread in a fairly large loaf.
>
> I also make a smaller sandwich bread using sweet soy flour. Want that
> recxupe too?

Last line should say sweet rice flour, not soy.




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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.