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jmcquown[_2_]

This has been in the news the last couple of days.

https://www.avclub.com/a-california-...pop-1819666326

and:

https://www.foodbeast.com/news/dixie-popeyes-chicken/

After a Yelp review by a customer called them on it,

"Instead of denying it, Sweet Dixie owner Kimberly Sanchez appeared to
reply to the review, saying they "Proudly serve Popeyes spicy tenders."

After naming other places they borrow food from, Sanchez appeared to try
and pass it off as part of a collaboration with local businesses."

What do you think?

Jill

Casa lo pensa

On 10/19/2017 4:09 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> This has been in the news the last couple of days.
>
> https://www.avclub.com/a-california-...pop-1819666326
>
>
> and:
>
> https://www.foodbeast.com/news/dixie-popeyes-chicken/
>
> After a Yelp review by a customer called them on it,
>
> "Instead of denying it, Sweet Dixie owner Kimberly Sanchez appeared to
> reply to the review, saying they "Proudly serve Popeyes spicy tenders."
>
> After naming other places they borrow food from, Sanchez appeared to try
> and pass it off as part of a collaboration with local businesses."
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jill

4/5 stars on Yelp _before_ this outing.

I think it is decent chicken, cuz I eat it too!

poor dumb curt

On 10/19/2017 4:37 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 19-Oct-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> This has been in the news the last couple of days.
>>
>> https://www.avclub.com/a-california-...pop-1819666326
>>
>> and:
>>
>> https://www.foodbeast.com/news/dixie-popeyes-chicken/
>>
>> After a Yelp review by a customer called them on it,
>>
>> "Instead of denying it, Sweet Dixie owner Kimberly Sanchez
>> appeared to
>> reply to the review, saying they "Proudly serve Popeyes spicy
>> tenders."
>>
>> After naming other places they borrow food from, Sanchez
>> appeared to try
>> and pass it off as part of a collaboration with local
>> businesses."
>>
>> What do you think?
> I think that if I want Popeye's chicken, I would go to Popeye's
> and get Spicy Bonafide Chicken, not tenders. If I wanted strips
> of chicken (fingers/tenders), I'd go to Raising Cane's; they have
> the best chicken fingers I've ever had.

I've been hearing about that joint, bit of an up and comer in fast food.

> All Sweet Dixie appears to be offering is to pair it with waffles
> and I don't understand the whole chicken and waffles thing. Give
> me a biscuit with my chicken, please.

W/sorgum!

> Wonder where Dixie gets their waffles? IHOP? Supermarket frozen?

Good point - because very few restsurants bread and hand fry their own
tenders.

jmcquown[_2_]

On 10/19/2017 6:37 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 19-Oct-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> This has been in the news the last couple of days.
>>
>> https://www.avclub.com/a-california-...pop-1819666326
>>
>> and:
>>
>> https://www.foodbeast.com/news/dixie-popeyes-chicken/
>>
>> After a Yelp review by a customer called them on it,
>>
>> "Instead of denying it, Sweet Dixie owner Kimberly Sanchez
>> appeared to
>> reply to the review, saying they "Proudly serve Popeyes spicy
>> tenders."
>>
>> After naming other places they borrow food from, Sanchez
>> appeared to try
>> and pass it off as part of a collaboration with local
>> businesses."
>>
>> What do you think?
> I think that if I want Popeye's chicken, I would go to Popeye's
> and get Spicy Bonafide Chicken, not tenders. If I wanted strips
> of chicken (fingers/tenders), I'd go to Raising Cane's; they have
> the best chicken fingers I've ever had.
>
> All Sweet Dixie appears to be offering is to pair it with waffles
> and I don't understand the whole chicken and waffles thing. Give
> me a biscuit with my chicken, please.
>
> Wonder where Dixie gets their waffles? IHOP? Supermarket frozen?
>
Eggo's Toaster waffles?

I don't get the chicken & waffles thing, either.

The owner of Sweet Dixie restaurant said they don't have the facilities
for frying chicken in their kitchen. Hey, if you don't have the ability
to fry chicken tenders why have it on the menu? She was calling it
"Pop's". Just a way of pulling the wool over customer's eyes. I'm glad
that customer spotted the person bringing in the big bags from Popeye's
and called them on it.

After the fact (of course) she said she's trying to get Popeye's to
authorize her to sell their chicken and put their name on the menu. So
far Popeye's has not responded. Why should she make a profit off their
product and their name without paying them for it? Buying it at their
store and reheating it doesn't count.

Jill

Casa lo pensa

On 10/19/2017 5:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> So far Popeye's has not responded.Â* Why should she make a profit off
> their product and their name without paying them for it?Â* Buying it at
> their store and reheating it doesn't count.
>
> Jill

But she DID pay them for it, yes?

And it is hers to do with as she pleases, right?

Maybe all she needed was:

http://company.popeyes.com/franchise/usa/franchise-kit/

Ed Pawlowski

On 10/19/2017 7:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> The owner of Sweet Dixie restaurant said they don't have the facilities
> for frying chicken in their kitchen.Â* Hey, if you don't have the ability
> to fry chicken tenders why have it on the menu?Â* She was calling it
> "Pop's".Â* Just a way of pulling the wool over customer's eyes.Â* I'm glad
> that customer spotted the person bringing in the big bags from Popeye's
> and called them on it.
>
> After the fact (of course) she said she's trying to get Popeye's to
> authorize her to sell their chicken and put their name on the menu.Â* So
> far Popeye's has not responded.Â* Why should she make a profit off their
> product and their name without paying them for it?Â* Buying it at their
> store and reheating it doesn't count.
>
> Jill

I don't see a problem with it. Popeye is making money on the sale and
Sweet Dixie is adding other items to the final dish.

No different that buying store brand chickens. Kroger and Stop & Shop
do not have farms but buy from Perdue or Tyson, or whoever and don't
give them a mention.

Take apart an appliance and see where the parts come from. Panasonic
makes the magnetron for more than half the microwaves sold under many
different brands. I see no difference between car parts and chicken
parts. Buy a Jaguar and get a GM transmission.

Buy chicken and waffles and enjoy it. If you do, it makes little
difference where it came from.

Last time I want to the Polar bottling company plant they were making
two other brands of soda that day. It is done all the time. Most
restaurants are serving what Sysco offers, often premade.

jmcquown[_2_]

On 10/19/2017 8:26 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 18:09:24 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> This has been in the news the last couple of days.
>>
>> https://www.avclub.com/a-california-...pop-1819666326
>>
>> and:
>>
>> https://www.foodbeast.com/news/dixie-popeyes-chicken/
>>
>> After a Yelp review by a customer called them on it,
>>
>> "Instead of denying it, Sweet Dixie owner Kimberly Sanchez appeared to
>> reply to the review, saying they "Proudly serve Popeyes spicy tenders."
>>
>> After naming other places they borrow food from, Sanchez appeared to try
>> and pass it off as part of a collaboration with local businesses."
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> I think it's fine. Especially since they weren't trying to hide it
> and readily admit it.

I think they *were* trying to hide it. They had it on the menu as
"Pop's", not Popeye's. I tried to look up the menu for Sweet Dixie
Kitchen. The link for Yelp reviews about it has a big banner saying
this business is under review. They won't display the menu.

> What's the difference if you buy it from a
> restaurant or buy it in a 10lb bag of pre-cooked tenders from the
> restaurant supply distributor?
>
Brand name propriety? They didn't buy something generic from a
restaurant supply store and cook it. They were buying from another
restaurant and pretending they'd cooked it.

> Several restaurants in Central Texas resell Aaron Franklin's smoked
> brisket on their own creations (such as on pizza and as sushi).
>
Do they claim they cooked it? Or do they have an agreement with whoever
Aaron Franklin's is?

> I don't see any fried chicken on the Dixie restaurant menu online
> except for the fried chicken biscuit. If they serve tenders on a
> plate like I saw in another article, they must have taken it off the
> menu.

I think in the wake of the publicity they had to remove it. It's
probably still on the menus in the restaurant itself, unless they've
pulled those too. (It sounds like the kind of place where they might
just use a Sharpie to cross it out until they print new ones.)

> I also wonder how they reheat them if they can't deep fry
> (probably because they don't have grease trap installed).
>
Who knows? I'd like to see a picture of their kitchen. Maybe Gordon
Ramsay could go in and do a kitchen makeover.

> However, now that Popeye's knows about this and it's well known, they
> will probably have to cut them off until some sort of co-op deal can
> be arranged.
>
> -sw
>
The owner of Dixie's is claiming she (after the fact) reached out to
Popeye's asking for permission. Why would Popeye's share their name on
a dinky restaurant in California menu without compensation? They don't
need her help promoting their product. Even Beaufort has a Popeye's
Chicken & Biscuits.

Jill

Sqwerts[_12_]

Sqwerts[_12_]

Sqwerts[_12_]

dsi1[_17_]

On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 12:34:01 PM UTC-10, Casa lo pensa wrote:
>
> 4/5 stars on Yelp _before_ this outing.
>
> I think it is decent chicken, cuz I eat it too!

I have to go over the hill to get any Popeye's. I wish they did that in our town! I occasionally want some of that chicken so I prefer not to know what's in it or where it came from. This is my strategy for a worry free life.

jmcquown[_2_]

On 10/19/2017 9:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 19:22:44 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/2017 6:37 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>> On 19-Oct-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> This has been in the news the last couple of days.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.avclub.com/a-california-...pop-1819666326
>>>>
>>>> and:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.foodbeast.com/news/dixie-popeyes-chicken/
>>>>
>>>> After a Yelp review by a customer called them on it,
>>>>
>>>> "Instead of denying it, Sweet Dixie owner Kimberly Sanchez
>>>> appeared to
>>>> reply to the review, saying they "Proudly serve Popeyes spicy
>>>> tenders."
>>>>
>>>> After naming other places they borrow food from, Sanchez
>>>> appeared to try
>>>> and pass it off as part of a collaboration with local
>>>> businesses."
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>> I think that if I want Popeye's chicken, I would go to Popeye's
>>> and get Spicy Bonafide Chicken, not tenders. If I wanted strips
>>> of chicken (fingers/tenders), I'd go to Raising Cane's; they have
>>> the best chicken fingers I've ever had.
>>>
>>> All Sweet Dixie appears to be offering is to pair it with waffles
>>> and I don't understand the whole chicken and waffles thing. Give
>>> me a biscuit with my chicken, please.
>>>
>>> Wonder where Dixie gets their waffles? IHOP? Supermarket frozen?
>>>
>> Eggo's Toaster waffles?
>>
>> I don't get the chicken & waffles thing, either.
>>
>> The owner of Sweet Dixie restaurant said they don't have the facilities
>> for frying chicken in their kitchen. Hey, if you don't have the ability
>> to fry chicken tenders why have it on the menu?
>
> The restaurant probably doesn't have a grease trap installed, so they
> are not allowed to deep fry anything. But the restaurant is called
> "Dixie" and is expected to have some fried stuff on the menu.
>
> Whatever happens, I'm sure the idiot mass-mentality netizens will make
> a big deal out of it and give them bad reviews for no good reason,
> because it makes them feel like they're the "in crowd". That's what
> Social Media is for - for solving REAL problems.
>
> -sw
>
But Steve, wasn't there some store in Canada that was buying stuff at a
US Costco and reselling them and you Costco got up in arms about it?
How is this different?

Jill

Ed Pawlowski

On 10/20/2017 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>>
>> Whatever happens, I'm sure the idiot mass-mentality netizens will make
>> a big deal out of it and give them bad reviews for no good reason,
>> because it makes them feel like they're the "in crowd".Â* That's what
>> Social Media is for - for solving REAL problems.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> But Steve, wasn't there some store in Canada that was buying stuff at a
> US Costco and reselling them and you Costco got up in arms about it? How
> is this different?
>
> Jill

I don't recall the situation with Costco, but how is this different from
a diner serving pie they bought from a local bakery? Order a dessert of
pie and icecream and chances re it was just assembled from purchased
parts, just like the chicken and waffles.

Costco is opening stores in Canada so they probably did not want
competition from the store but that is just a guess.

Ding - Dong Daddy

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 10/20/2017 8:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Whatever happens, I'm sure the idiot mass-mentality netizens will make
> >> a big deal out of it and give them bad reviews for no good reason,
> >> because it makes them feel like they're the "in crowd".Â* That's what
> >> Social Media is for - for solving REAL problems.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >>
> > But Steve, wasn't there some store in Canada that was buying stuff at a
> > US Costco and reselling them and you Costco got up in arms about it? How
> > is this different?
> >
> > Jill
>
> I don't recall the situation with Costco, but how is this different from
> a diner serving pie they bought from a local bakery? Order a dessert of
> pie and icecream and chances re it was just assembled from purchased
> parts, just like the chicken and waffles.
>
> Costco is opening stores in Canada so they probably did not want
> competition from the store but that is just a guess.

Guys, that was a "Trader Joe's Situation":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Joe%27s

"Pirate Joe's was a specialty grocery store in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, owned by Michael Hallatt. Its inventory consists entirely of store brand products resold from locations of the U.S.-based grocery chain Trader Joe's, which does not operate any locations in Canada. Despite the high costs of operating the store because of its business model, the store became popular with residents who enjoyed the opportunity to purchase some of the distinct private label products offered by Trader Joe's.

Although he has asserted that the business was legal, Hallatt's operation drew the ire of the Trader Joe's company, and the shop eventually became the subject of a lawsuit filed by the company in May 2013, which claimed that the Pirate Joe's shop was infringing on its trademarks and damaging its reputation.

Hallatt chose to fight for his business model in court while continuing to operate the store, and has so far prevailed; a judge ruled that Hallatt could not be convicted under US trademark law because the alleged infringements did not occur within the country. Trader Joe's was not able to prove the business was causing them any harm, and it was determined that they were in fact benefiting since all products were purchased from their stores at full retail price.

[...]

In October 2013, Judge Marsha Pechman dismissed the case, ruling that Trader Joe's did not provide sufficient evidence of any economic harm caused by the operation, and that Hallatt could not be held liable under the Lanham Act because the alleged trademark infringements did not occur within the United States.

In August 2016, the dismissal was overturned by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled that a U.S. court does have authority to hear the case, sending the case back to the district court.[8]

On June 8, 2017, Pirate Joe's announced that it was closing its doors because the ongoing lawsuit was simply too expensive..."

notbob

On 2017-10-20, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> I don't see a problem with it.

Gotta protect that "branding", donchya know!

nb

Casa lo pensa

On 10/19/2017 11:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 12:34:01 PM UTC-10, Casa lo pensa wrote:
>>
>> 4/5 stars on Yelp _before_ this outing.
>>
>> I think it is decent chicken, cuz I eat it too!
>
> I have to go over the hill to get any Popeye's. I wish they did that in our town! I occasionally want some of that chicken so I prefer not to know what's in it or where it came from. This is my strategy for a worry free life.
>

It's all going to eat the same anyway, so let the taste buds rule!

I'm not a big fan of church's though - not very flavorful to me.

Sqwerts[_12_]

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