In article >, says...
>
> On 10/23/2017 11:10 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:07:45 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2017-10-22 9:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>> On 10/22/2017 8:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Not a problem* if she lived nearby and could manage transportation on
> >>>>> her own. The scenario would be for her husband to drive her down and
> >>>>> they would expect to spend the night here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Except you said she's taking the bus, to and fro.* So, no problem.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> That was the arrangement after I found out about it and refused to have
> >>> her here.
> >>
> >> Now all becomes clear, you laid down the law in YOUR house...
> >
> > His poor wife; is it not her home too?
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> Of course it is. But if I had someone who came over and ate everything
> in sight (not offered) I'd have a problem with it, too.

That wouldn't happen in my house, I'd just lock her out of the
kitchen. I still have the kitchen key which became part of our history
here.

When we viewed this house for sale, the obnoxious owner had just had
a stupendous row with his wife and she had locked herself in the
kitchen, where she was crashing saucepans in a temper and wouldn't let
us in. The closing date was only a week away. So we never met her or saw
the kitchen before buying the place.

When we finally did get in the kitchen to see what we'd bought, I
opened a mystery door and discovered...a walk in pantry, my hearts
desire. One of the best surprises ever.

Janet UK

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Nothing presumable about that. My wife had bought two tickets. When I
> did not want to go she asked our son, but he was working. The intercity
> bus trip is a minimum hour and a half each way, plus the public transit
> time from her house to the bus station. Then it is a 2o minute drive
> from the bus station the city where the church is. It really would be
> much easier for him to drive her. I doubt he would want to go to the
> church dinner. I am positive that if they drover down they would expect
> to stay overnight. No thanks.

Everyone traveling all these miles and hours just to go
to a church dinner? Must be some damn good church dinner.
That's the part I can't understand.

Why would someone take a bus trip for 1.5 hours, then a 20 minute
drive from the bus station to the church. Eat dinner, then
do all that in reverse to go home. WTH?

Is the "Pope" going to be there or something? :-O

Please explain why this church dinner is worth all this travel
and trouble.

On 2017-10-23 1:59 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
>> Of course it is. But if I had someone who came over and ate everything
>> in sight (not offered) I'd have a problem with it, too.
>
> That wouldn't happen in my house, I'd just lock her out of the
> kitchen. I still have the kitchen key which became part of our history
> here.
>
> When we viewed this house for sale, the obnoxious owner had just had
> a stupendous row with his wife and she had locked herself in the
> kitchen, where she was crashing saucepans in a temper and wouldn't let
> us in.

That's interesting. The woman locked herself in the kitchen and was
crashing saucepans in a temper..... but the the man was the obnoxious one.

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:02:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 1:43:41 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
>> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
>> ahead and invited her.
>>
>> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
>> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
>> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
>> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>>
>>
>> I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
>> having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
>> herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
>> sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
>> she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
>> have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.
>
>You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing.
>The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and
> respect your wife.

There's a very simple solution. What we would do when people
suggested getting together as a group and there may be some that we
really didn't feel comfortable with at our home we suggested meeting
at a restaurant. People can enjoy themselves to their heart's content
and then pay their own tab. We used to do that all the time, with
family and friends, no one feels put out. And whoever chose for
whatever reason not to attend could decline.
We never enjoyed a crowd at our house, the most we felt comfortable
entertaining at home was no more than two other couples and only those
we knew well. These days we don't even know any couples, of every
couple we knew their spouse has passed. At this age hardly anyone is
left who I knew growing up. Of the handful remaining they live ten
states away and/or in assisted care homes. At my age it's very
difficult for men to make new friends... making new friends (actually
aquaintances) later in life is easier for women. Since my wife golfs,
skis, takes watercolor painting lessons, knits, and is a substitute
teacher she has more opportunity to meet new people but she readily
admits that none does she know nearly well enough to consider
friends... none have invited her/us to their home... we figure they've
something to hide. And none of those people she meets have stayed
around for more than a season and then move on. People are extremely
transient these days. Most won't give a home address, at best just an
email address and cell phone number. My wife was born in Belize
(actually British Hondurous then), and as a young adult lived in
London, England. Old friends from then are long gone. Neither of us
had much family, those are gone as well. However we make a good team,
we have much in common and enjoy a lot of the same things, we both
love country living.

On 10/23/2017 12:33 PM, wrote:
> However we make a good team,
> we have much in common and enjoy a lot of the same things, we both
> love country living.

And at your ages what else truly matters?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq_7XAto0SI

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2017-10-23 1:59 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >
> >> Of course it is. But if I had someone who came over and ate everything
> >> in sight (not offered) I'd have a problem with it, too.
> >
> > That wouldn't happen in my house, I'd just lock her out of the
> > kitchen. I still have the kitchen key which became part of our history
> > here.
> >
> > When we viewed this house for sale, the obnoxious owner had just had
> > a stupendous row with his wife and she had locked herself in the
> > kitchen, where she was crashing saucepans in a temper and wouldn't let
> > us in.
>
> That's interesting. The woman locked herself in the kitchen and was
> crashing saucepans in a temper..... but the the man was the obnoxious

He was rude to us at the viewing and when the sale completed he was so
unpleasant that his own lawyer was embarrassed by and apologised for his
behaviour. Having sold up, he ran off abroad with his wife's best friend
leaving his debts and no forwarding address. His parting shot was to
upset all the neighbours by telling them a big fat lie that we were
planning to run a drilling business from the garage, very noisy.
A real prince.

Janet UK

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:21:00 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On 2017-10-23 1:59 PM, Janet wrote:
>> > In article >, says...
>> >
>> >> Of course it is. But if I had someone who came over and ate everything
>> >> in sight (not offered) I'd have a problem with it, too.
>> >
>> > That wouldn't happen in my house, I'd just lock her out of the
>> > kitchen. I still have the kitchen key which became part of our history
>> > here.
>> >
>> > When we viewed this house for sale, the obnoxious owner had just had
>> > a stupendous row with his wife and she had locked herself in the
>> > kitchen, where she was crashing saucepans in a temper and wouldn't let
>> > us in.
>>
>> That's interesting. The woman locked herself in the kitchen and was
>> crashing saucepans in a temper..... but the the man was the obnoxious
>
> He was rude to us at the viewing and when the sale completed he was so
>unpleasant that his own lawyer was embarrassed by and apologised for his
>behaviour. Having sold up, he ran off abroad with his wife's best friend
>leaving his debts and no forwarding address. His parting shot was to
>upset all the neighbours by telling them a big fat lie that we were
>planning to run a drilling business from the garage, very noisy.
> A real prince.

That last bit was kinda funny.

On 10/23/2017 2:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
> That last bit was kinda funny.


Only to a sociopathic troll like yourself.

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:14:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Nothing presumable about that. My wife had bought two tickets. When I
>> did not want to go she asked our son, but he was working. The intercity
>> bus trip is a minimum hour and a half each way, plus the public transit
>> time from her house to the bus station. Then it is a 2o minute drive
>> from the bus station the city where the church is. It really would be
>> much easier for him to drive her. I doubt he would want to go to the
>> church dinner. I am positive that if they drover down they would expect
>> to stay overnight. No thanks.
>
>Everyone traveling all these miles and hours just to go
>to a church dinner? Must be some damn good church dinner.
>That's the part I can't understand.
>
>Why would someone take a bus trip for 1.5 hours, then a 20 minute
>drive from the bus station to the church. Eat dinner, then
>do all that in reverse to go home. WTH?
>
>Is the "Pope" going to be there or something? :-O
>
>Please explain why this church dinner is worth all this travel
>and trouble.

First and last time I attended a meal at a church the locals refered
to it as a "Feed". Was held in the side yard in the hot sun on sheets
of plywood supported by sawhorses. They had a tub of soft drinks
smothered with ice, There was awful potato salad and cole slaw loaded
with schtinkin' onions. The main event was bologna sandwiches on
white bread with yallow mustard.

On 2017-10-23 2:33 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:02:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >

> There's a very simple solution. What we would do when people
> suggested getting together as a group and there may be some that we
> really didn't feel comfortable with at our home we suggested meeting
> at a restaurant. People can enjoy themselves to their heart's content
> and then pay their own tab. We used to do that all the time, with
> family and friends, no one feels put out. And whoever chose for
> whatever reason not to attend could decline.

I suppose if she had to pay her own way she would decline. The last time
I treated her she took advantage. There were lunch specials that came
with a choice of soup or salad. She ordered it with soup, and then
ordered a large salad as well. That's two lunches. Then, just before
leaving to attend a cheese tasting, she ordered a cheese platter (for
two) for herself.

The last time I was in a restaurant with the woman her mother was
treating. BN orders a gourmet burger than comes with fries or salad, and
she ordered it with salad. A few minutes later, she called the waitress
over and ordered salad. When the meals were served shad asked about the
fries. The waitress thought she had wanted the salad instead of the
fries. Nope. She wanted both. The waitress scooted to the kitchen to
correct the order and get the fries, but a couple minutes later she
calls the waitress back and cancels the order for the fries. Now the
waitress has to go back to the kitchen to cancel the fries. About 5
minutes later, she calls the waitress over and orders the fries.

I don't know if you have ever been in a party where someone keeps
changing their order, or uses other means to monopolize a server. My
experience is that the server disappears. They don't want to waste their
time running back and forth for nothing. They prefer to wait on the
less demanding tables. When I had to sit near her and her husband at a
recent buffet event her husband commented that waiters often get mad at
them. Who can blame them for getting frustrated?

On 2017-10-23 4:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,

>> That's interesting. The woman locked herself in the kitchen and was
>> crashing saucepans in a temper..... but the the man was the obnoxious
>
> He was rude to us at the viewing and when the sale completed he was so
> unpleasant that his own lawyer was embarrassed by and apologised for his
> behaviour. Having sold up, he ran off abroad with his wife's best friend
> leaving his debts and no forwarding address. His parting shot was to
> upset all the neighbours by telling them a big fat lie that we were
> planning to run a drilling business from the garage, very noisy.
> A real prince.

The wife doesn't sound much better.

On 10/23/2017 2:59 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:14:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Nothing presumable about that. My wife had bought two tickets. When I
>>> did not want to go she asked our son, but he was working. The intercity
>>> bus trip is a minimum hour and a half each way, plus the public transit
>>> time from her house to the bus station. Then it is a 2o minute drive
>>> from the bus station the city where the church is. It really would be
>>> much easier for him to drive her. I doubt he would want to go to the
>>> church dinner. I am positive that if they drover down they would expect
>>> to stay overnight. No thanks.
>>
>> Everyone traveling all these miles and hours just to go
>> to a church dinner? Must be some damn good church dinner.
>> That's the part I can't understand.
>>
>> Why would someone take a bus trip for 1.5 hours, then a 20 minute
>> drive from the bus station to the church. Eat dinner, then
>> do all that in reverse to go home. WTH?
>>
>> Is the "Pope" going to be there or something? :-O
>>
>> Please explain why this church dinner is worth all this travel
>> and trouble.
>
> First and last time I attended a meal at a church the locals refered
> to it as a "Feed". Was held in the side yard in the hot sun on sheets
> of plywood supported by sawhorses. They had a tub of soft drinks
> smothered with ice, There was awful potato salad and cole slaw loaded
> with schtinkin' onions. The main event was bologna sandwiches on
> white bread with yallow mustard.
>

Protestant purgatory!

Those heathens wouldn't know a knish from a noodle.

On 2017-10-23 2:14 PM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> Then it is a 2o minute drive
>> from the bus station the city where the church is. It really would be
>> much easier for him to drive her. I doubt he would want to go to the
>> church dinner. I am positive that if they drover down they would expect
>> to stay overnight. No thanks.
>
> Everyone traveling all these miles and hours just to go
> to a church dinner? Must be some damn good church dinner.
> That's the part I can't understand.

Beats me. It is less than 15 minutes from here to the church. The last
time I went to a dinner there it turned into a lot of prayers. Then the
after dinner entertainment was a bible trivia quiz, and my table won
because I knew most of the answers, more than the church goers, and a
couple that even the minister didn't know.

We live in a rural are between two cities. The one the church is in has
limited bus service with the city the niece lives in.



> Please explain why this church dinner is worth all this travel
> and trouble.

Therein lies the problem. It isn't worth the trip just for the dinner.
Niece and her husband live in the middle of a big city and want to get
away to the country occasionally. It is about an hour and a half drive,
apparently too far to come for a brief visit, so they would prefer to
come and stay overnight. That means that they can eat and drink more.

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 8:33:43 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> There's a very simple solution. What we would do when people
> suggested getting together as a group and there may be some that we
> really didn't feel comfortable with at our home we suggested meeting
> at a restaurant. People can enjoy themselves to their heart's content
> and then pay their own tab. We used to do that all the time, with
> family and friends, no one feels put out. And whoever chose for
> whatever reason not to attend could decline.
> We never enjoyed a crowd at our house, the most we felt comfortable
> entertaining at home was no more than two other couples and only those
> we knew well. These days we don't even know any couples, of every
> couple we knew their spouse has passed. At this age hardly anyone is
> left who I knew growing up. Of the handful remaining they live ten
> states away and/or in assisted care homes. At my age it's very
> difficult for men to make new friends... making new friends (actually
> aquaintances) later in life is easier for women. Since my wife golfs,
> skis, takes watercolor painting lessons, knits, and is a substitute
> teacher she has more opportunity to meet new people but she readily
> admits that none does she know nearly well enough to consider
> friends... none have invited her/us to their home... we figure they've
> something to hide. And none of those people she meets have stayed
> around for more than a season and then move on. People are extremely
> transient these days. Most won't give a home address, at best just an
> email address and cell phone number. My wife was born in Belize
> (actually British Hondurous then), and as a young adult lived in
> London, England. Old friends from then are long gone. Neither of us
> had much family, those are gone as well. However we make a good team,
> we have much in common and enjoy a lot of the same things, we both
> love country living.

You should direct your comments to the other dave.

On 10/23/2017 3:44 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> Old friends from then are long gone. Neither of us
>> had much family, those are gone as well. However we make a good team,
>> we have much in common and enjoy a lot of the same things, we both
>> love country living.
> You should direct your comments to the other dave.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0r-XhL6mAg

On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and respect your wife.
>

Exactly. I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
better. Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
it. Just so she could ride in a blue car.

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-10, Casa lo pensa wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0r-XhL6mAg

That computer got what it deserved!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P57dx8xIrGg

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:00:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and respect your wife.
>>
>
>Exactly. I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
>better. Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
>it. Just so she could ride in a blue car.

Do you call her "Princess"?

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:00:57 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
> > You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and respect your wife.
> >
>
> Exactly. I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
> better. Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
> it. Just so she could ride in a blue car.

Blue, eh. That's unusual.

On 10/23/2017 4:00 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one
>> simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to
>> do because you love and respect your wife.
>>
>
> Exactly.Â* I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
> better.Â* Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
> it.Â* Just so she could ride in a blue car.

Spendy capitulation bro...

Ever hear of Early Scheib?

On 10/23/2017 4:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-10, Casa lo pensa wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0r-XhL6mAg
>
> That computer got what it deserved!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P57dx8xIrGg
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ap-_kb29XY

"We all got it coming..."

On 10/23/2017 6:07 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:00:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and respect your wife.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly. I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
>> better. Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
>> it. Just so she could ride in a blue car.
>
> Do you call her "Princess"?
>

She prefers "Queen" Her uncle (that lived with them) called her that as
a kid.

On 10/23/2017 6:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:00:57 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and respect your wife.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly. I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
>> better. Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
>> it. Just so she could ride in a blue car.
>
> Blue, eh. That's unusual.
>

Adriatic Blue is what it is called, on a G80 Ultimate.
https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis-g80.html
I had a Sonata 2 cars ago that was Pacific blue and we really like it.

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 7:48:45 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Adriatic Blue is what it is called, on a G80 Ultimate.
> https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis-g80.html
> I had a Sonata 2 cars ago that was Pacific blue and we really like it.
>
>
That Genesis is mighty pretty, what color is your interior and
what package did you get?

On 10/23/2017 6:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/23/2017 6:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:00:57 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this
>>>> one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't
>>>> want to do because you love and respect your wife.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly.Â* I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
>>> better.Â* Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
>>> it.Â* Just so she could ride in a blue car.
>>
>> Blue, eh. That's unusual.
>>
>
> Adriatic Blue is what it is called, on a G80 Ultimate.
> https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis-g80.html
> I had a Sonata 2 cars ago that was Pacific blue and we really like it.


Sweeeet color.

How's that electric power steering feel at highway speeds?

Any wander or imprecision?

Light or heavy?

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news
On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one
> simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do
> because you love and respect your wife.
>

Exactly. I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
better. Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
it. Just so she could ride in a blue car.

===

Lovely You sound like my husband)))))

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Sheldon, it sounds like you have a good life and appreciate it, so good for you!
I was thinking just the other day that if we do one, our high school class 60th
reunion is next year, and in my case, it is remarkable how few classmates have
passed. However, I live in a university town, so not only are new residents I
might meet not here very long, but most of my h.s. classmates left town right after
they finished school. And you are right, it is very hard to make new friends at this
age.

As to the OP, I don't think he is being too control-freaky, but I think the solution to
empty the pantry is a good idea. Rat poison is a very bad idea, but leaving a
clearly-labeled box of ant poison on the shelf might give the BN the idea that you have a
bug problem and have to keep the food elsewhere, which you could explain if she asks.
Put the contents of your pantry in your garage, leaving the spices, flavorings, etc., that
she wouldn't eat anyway. I have no idea what to do about her taking other things if
she wants them. She obviously needs professional help.

I think since she is your wife's relative, that your wife should talk to family members
about finding a way to convince BN to get that help.

N.

On 10/23/2017 9:04 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 7:48:45 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Adriatic Blue is what it is called, on a G80 Ultimate.
>> https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis-g80.html
>> I had a Sonata 2 cars ago that was Pacific blue and we really like it.
>>
>>
> That Genesis is mighty pretty, what color is your interior and
> what package did you get?
>

Interior is gray. I got the Ultimate package. It is also AWD. I've
always bought the top model because I like all the goodies. Probably
not the best value but if that was the driving factor I'd buy a much
cheaper car.

On 10/23/2017 9:10 PM, Casa lo pensa wrote:
> On 10/23/2017 6:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/23/2017 6:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:00:57 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this
>>>>> one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't
>>>>> want to do because you love and respect your wife.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exactly.Â* I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
>>>> better.Â* Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I
>>>> bought
>>>> it.Â* Just so she could ride in a blue car.
>>>
>>> Blue, eh. That's unusual.
>>>
>>
>> Adriatic Blue is what it is called, on a G80 Ultimate.
>> https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis-g80.html
>> I had a Sonata 2 cars ago that was Pacific blue and we really like it.
>
>
> Sweeeet color.
>
> How's that electric power steering feel at highway speeds?
>
> Any wander or imprecision?
>
> Light or heavy?
>
>

It varies with speed but is always smooth. At highway speeds you can
drive with two fingers as it does not wander at all. It goes where
pointed.

I'm not sure of the beneftis in manufacture but electric steering is
becoming popular.

On 2017-10-24 9:02 AM, Nancy2 wrote:

>
> As to the OP, I don't think he is being too control-freaky, but I
> think the solution to empty the pantry is a good idea. Rat poison is
> a very bad idea, but leaving a clearly-labeled box of ant poison on
> the shelf might give the BN the idea that you have a bug problem and
> have to keep the food elsewhere, which you could explain if she
> asks. Put the contents of your pantry in your garage, leaving the
> spices, flavorings, etc., that she wouldn't eat anyway. I have no
> idea what to do about her taking other things if she wants them. She
> obviously needs professional help.

Who wants people coming to the house when they act in a way that makes
steps like emptying cupboards and faking vermin infestation look like
good ideas?


> I think since she is your wife's relative, that your wife should talk
> to family members about finding a way to convince BN to get that
> help.

Okay... I will leave it to my wife to tell her niece that she has a
problem that needs to be dealt with professionally.... or she can tell
her sister that her daughter needs to get that help.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2017-10-23 4:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
>
> >> That's interesting. The woman locked herself in the kitchen and was
> >> crashing saucepans in a temper..... but the the man was the obnoxious
> >
> > He was rude to us at the viewing and when the sale completed he was so
> > unpleasant that his own lawyer was embarrassed by and apologised for his
> > behaviour. Having sold up, he ran off abroad with his wife's best friend
> > leaving his debts and no forwarding address. His parting shot was to
> > upset all the neighbours by telling them a big fat lie that we were
> > planning to run a drilling business from the garage, very noisy.
> > A real prince.
>
> The wife doesn't sound much better.

She's well thought of, still visits her old friends and neighbours
here so we meet occasionally and she seems a nice woman. I've never
heard anyone say a bad word about her. The opposite, for him.

Janet UK

On 10/24/2017 7:02 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Sheldon, it sounds like you have a good life and appreciate it, so good for you!
> I was thinking just the other day that if we do one, our high school class 60th
> reunion is next year, and in my case, it is remarkable how few classmates have
> passed. However, I live in a university town, so not only are new residents I
> might meet not here very long, but most of my h.s. classmates left town right after
> they finished school. And you are right, it is very hard to make new friends at this
> age.
>
> As to the OP, I don't think he is being too control-freaky, but I think the solution to
> empty the pantry is a good idea. Rat poison is a very bad idea, but leaving a
> clearly-labeled box of ant poison on the shelf might give the BN the idea that you have a
> bug problem and have to keep the food elsewhere, which you could explain if she asks.
> Put the contents of your pantry in your garage, leaving the spices, flavorings, etc., that
> she wouldn't eat anyway. I have no idea what to do about her taking other things if
> she wants them. She obviously needs professional help.
>
> I think since she is your wife's relative, that your wife should talk to family members
> about finding a way to convince BN to get that help.
>
> N.
>


Of course I was _joking_ on the rat poison, the Ex Lax...well...

On 10/24/2017 7:14 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/23/2017 9:10 PM, Casa lo pensa wrote:
>> On 10/23/2017 6:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 10/23/2017 6:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:00:57 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this
>>>>>> one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't
>>>>>> want to do because you love and respect your wife.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.Â* I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
>>>>> better.Â* Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I
>>>>> bought
>>>>> it.Â* Just so she could ride in a blue car.
>>>>
>>>> Blue, eh. That's unusual.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Adriatic Blue is what it is called, on a G80 Ultimate.
>>> https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis-g80.html
>>> I had a Sonata 2 cars ago that was Pacific blue and we really like it.
>>
>>
>> Sweeeet color.
>>
>> How's that electric power steering feel at highway speeds?
>>
>> Any wander or imprecision?
>>
>> Light or heavy?
>>
>>
>
> It varies with speed but is always smooth.Â* At highway speeds you can
> drive with two fingers as it does not wander at all. It goes where pointed.

Nice, I wonder at all this new electric steering gear.
> I'm not sure of the beneftis in manufacture but electric steering is
> becoming popular.

It's cheaper, has less belt parasitic drag, so maybe a fraction of an
MPG gets picked up?

I've driven a rental Cadenza that was just too vague at speeds over 45.

I will say you picked a very handsome car - really like the front end
and interior layout.

On 10/24/2017 10:54 AM, Casa lo pensa wrote:

> Nice, I wonder at all this new electric steering gear.
>> I'm not sure of the beneftis in manufacture but electric steering is
>> becoming popular.
>
> It's cheaper, has less belt parasitic drag, so maybe a fraction of an
> MPG gets picked up?

Right, I did not think of that. MPG is a big factor and half the new
cars now have no spare tire. Tires are pretty good these days, but I
still want a spare. About 4 years ago I had a sidewall puncture and no
sealer would help. With no spare, I'd be screwed on a cold, rainy,
December night. The roadside assistance included with the car was nice
to have too.




> I will say you picked a very handsome car - really like the front end
> and interior layout.

Thank you.

On 2017-10-24 10:44 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,

>> The wife doesn't sound much better.
>
> She's well thought of, still visits her old friends and neighbours
> here so we meet occasionally and she seems a nice woman. I've never
> heard anyone say a bad word about her. The opposite, for him.


But.... you could not see the kitchen because she had locked herself in
and was smashing dishes. I guess you must have caught her on her bad day.


I am reminded of two sisters who attend my wife's church. One is a good
friend of my wife. The other is a nasty piece of work. It seems that her
father took up with another woman, left his wife and daughters and moved
back to England and they never heard from him again.

There was a nice woman in the choir who told me that the husband was a
very nice man but that the wife was a miserable, bad tempered woman. She
said one daughter turned out to be like the father while the other was
more like the mother.

On 10/24/2017 9:12 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/24/2017 10:54 AM, Casa lo pensa wrote:
>
>> Nice, I wonder at all this new electric steering gear.
>>> I'm not sure of the beneftis in manufacture but electric steering is
>>> becoming popular.
>>
>> It's cheaper, has less belt parasitic drag, so maybe a fraction of an
>> MPG gets picked up?
>
> Right, I did not think of that.Â* MPG is a big factor and half the new
> cars now have no spare tire.Â* Tires are pretty good these days, but I
> still want a spare.Â* About 4 years ago I had a sidewall puncture and no
> sealer would help.Â* With no spare, I'd be screwed on a cold, rainy,
> December night.Â* The roadside assistance included with the car was nice
> to have too.

Darned nice, and I'm no fan of tire sealer foam cans either. Half the
time they lose their charge in the trunk.

Plus the tire shops are very unhappy to change wheels with sealer inside.

In some instances it can blow up on them.

>> I will say you picked a very handsome car - really like the front end
>> and interior layout.
>
> Thank you.

YW

On 10/24/2017 12:41 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:


>
> I'm really glad your wife (and you) found a car in a color your like!
>
> When I think back over the years it seems there were many more colors
> to choose from than those available today.
>
> When we were car shopping we wanted to eliminate all colors we have
> had in the past as well as a few colors we would never have
> considered in the past. We categorically elimnated black, white, and
> blue (neither of us care for any shade of blue except in clothing)
> :-) We also eliminated colors from the color families of silver,
> gray, tan, beige, red, etc., as we have had colors from those
> families before. That really left us with only one choice, Kona
> Coffee Metallic. We really fell in love with that color, and there
> don't seem to be too many of that color on the road.
>

The Kona is nice; I did have one brown car but not as nice as that. .
Funny how some cars look good in a particular color but others don't.
Mine would look hideous in yellow but I'd buy a yellow Corvette.

Years ago I bought modest/low priced used cars and color was secondary.
A good deal did not give you a choice and I had four white cars in a
row. None since. Never had black, never had a true red, but variations
like burgundy. For me, this is car #25 and 7 of them have been blue

On 10/24/2017 9:41 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Funny how some cars look good in a particular color but others don't.
> Mine would look hideous in yellow but I'd buy a yellow Corvette.

If you do - get one of this year's Vettes - with the new mid engine
model due for next year the collectibility factor is very high.

On 10/24/2017 11:44 AM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 10/24/2017 9:41 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Funny how some cars look good in a particular color but others don't.
>> Mine would look hideous in yellow but I'd buy a yellow Corvette.
>
> If you do - get one of this year's Vettes - with the new mid engine
> model due for next year the collectibility factor is very high.


I keep saying I want one and my wife says if I managed to get in it I
would never get out. I'd have to live in it and just get my meals at
the drive thru window. I don't see any downside

On 10/24/2017 10:01 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/24/2017 11:44 AM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 10/24/2017 9:41 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Funny how some cars look good in a particular color but others don't.
>>> Mine would look hideous in yellow but I'd buy a yellow Corvette.
>>
>> If you do - get one of this year's Vettes - with the new mid engine
>> model due for next year the collectibility factor is very high.
>
>
> I keep saying I want one and my wife says if I managed to get in it I
> would never get out.Â* I'd have to live in it and just get my meals at
> the drive thru window.Â* I don't see any downside

LOL!

In so many ways it is the most over the top Vette ever!

Spec'd as a Z06 - well...in this Mammomn realm there are few more
enticing, even the Dodge Demon, whose handling will never match those 11
sec. ET runs.

https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/corvette-z06

But please, no white...