On 10/24/2017 11:36 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 24 Oct 2017 06:09:41a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>> On 10/23/2017 9:04 PM, wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 7:48:45 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Adriatic Blue is what it is called, on a G80 Ultimate.
>>>> https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis-g80.html
>>>> I had a Sonata 2 cars ago that was Pacific blue and we really
>>>> like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That Genesis is mighty pretty, what color is your interior and
>>> what package did you get?
>>>
>>
>> Interior is gray. I got the Ultimate package. It is also AWD.
>> I've always bought the top model because I like all the goodies.
>> Probably not the best value but if that was the driving factor I'd
>> buy a much cheaper car.
>>
>
> That's a beautiful car, and I bet the gray interior really sets off
> the blue. We always buy the top model, too, with all the goodies.
> OUr Kona Coffee has a black leather interior. Could have gotten it
> with a very light cream leather, but thought that would show soiling
> more quidkly.
>

Black leather, the Valley?

Owie.

Hope you have good tinting on the windows.

On 10/24/2017 1:36 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>>> That Genesis is mighty pretty, what color is your interior and
>>> what package did you get?
>>>
>>
>> Interior is gray. I got the Ultimate package. It is also AWD.
>> I've always bought the top model because I like all the goodies.
>> Probably not the best value but if that was the driving factor I'd
>> buy a much cheaper car.
>>
>
> That's a beautiful car, and I bet the gray interior really sets off
> the blue. We always buy the top model, too, with all the goodies.
> Our Kona Coffee has a black leather interior. Could have gotten it
> with a very light cream leather, but thought that would show soiling
> more quickly.
>

There are a few color combos with a white interior. Looks gorgeous but
no way would I get it. Even with protective coatings it would have to
get too dirty too often.

Maybe if I ever get a Rolls Royce Dawn, blue with white interior. If
you can afford one you can probably afford to have it cleaned often.

On 2017-10-24 11:44 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/24/2017 1:36 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>>> That Genesis is mighty pretty, what color is your interior and
>>>> what package did you get?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interior is gray.Â* I got the Ultimate package.Â* It is also AWD.
>>> I've always bought the top model because I like all the goodies.
>>> Probably not the best value but if that was the driving factor I'd
>>> buy a much cheaper car.
>>>
>>
>> That's a beautiful car, and I bet the gray interior really sets off
>> the blue.Â* We always buy the top model, too, with all the goodies.
>> Our Kona Coffee has a black leather interior.Â* Could have gotten it
>> with a very light cream leather, but thought that would show soiling
>> more quickly.
>>
>
> There are a few color combos with a white interior.Â* Looks gorgeous but
> no way would I get it.Â* Even with protective coatings it would have to
> get too dirty too often.
>
> Maybe if I ever get a Rolls Royce Dawn, blue with white interior.Â* If
> you can afford one you can probably afford to have it cleaned often.

I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior if
I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.

On 10/24/2017 12:22 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 24 Oct 2017 10:44:50a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>> On 10/24/2017 1:36 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>>> That Genesis is mighty pretty, what color is your interior and
>>>>> what package did you get?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interior is gray. I got the Ultimate package. It is also AWD.
>>>> I've always bought the top model because I like all the goodies.
>>>> Probably not the best value but if that was the driving factor
>>>> I'd buy a much cheaper car.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's a beautiful car, and I bet the gray interior really sets
>>> off the blue. We always buy the top model, too, with all the
>>> goodies. Our Kona Coffee has a black leather interior. Could
>>> have gotten it with a very light cream leather, but thought that
>>> would show soiling more quickly.
>>>
>>
>> There are a few color combos with a white interior. Looks
>> gorgeous but no way would I get it. Even with protective coatings
>> it would have to get too dirty too often.
>>
>> Maybe if I ever get a Rolls Royce Dawn, blue with white interior.
>> If you can afford one you can probably afford to have it cleaned
>> often.
>>
>
> If I could afford a Rolls Royce I doubt that I'd care what it cost to
> clean and mantain in. :-)
>


Guess where you can go to afford one:

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...ice_rangeFacet[]=$20k%20-%20$50k


https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...r/1921278.html

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On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:08:50 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>
> I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
> instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior if
> I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.

I don't recall ever seeing a car with white upholstery. I like tan myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs

On 2017-10-24 12:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:08:50 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>>
>> I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
>> instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior if
>> I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.
>
> I don't recall ever seeing a car with white upholstery. I like tan myself.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
>
I suppose one could call it "off-white".

On 10/24/2017 12:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:08:50 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>>
>> I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
>> instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior if
>> I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.
>
> I don't recall ever seeing a car with white upholstery.

It was all the rage in the 70s!

http://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...terior_Web.jpg

http://hot-cars.org/wp-content/uploa..._interior.jpeg

> I like tan myself.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
>

Me 2.

I hate forking liars!

On 10/24/2017 12:39 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-10-24 12:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:08:50 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>>>
>>> I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
>>> instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior if
>>> I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.
>>
>> I don't recall ever seeing a car with white upholstery. I like tan
>> myself.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
>>
> I suppose one could call it "off-white".


http://www.secondchancegarage.com/ar...bile-442-7.jpg

On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:39:16 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> I suppose one could call it "off-white".

Not to dis your car or anything but a car with a white interior would make me think that Elvis is in the house. Now that's one guy that must have had a Caddy with a white interior. If it's good enough for Elvis, I guess I can live with one too.

On 10/24/2017 12:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:39:16 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>> I suppose one could call it "off-white".
>
> Not to dis your car or anything but a car with a white interior would make me think that Elvis is in the house. Now that's one guy that must have had a Caddy with a white interior. If it's good enough for Elvis, I guess I can live with one too.
>

Yee ha!

https://drbristol.files.wordpress.co...pink-caddy.jpg

....even in pink?@!???

On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:46:34 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos
>
> It was all the rage in the 70s!
>
> http://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...terior_Web.jpg
>
> http://hot-cars.org/wp-content/uploa..._interior.jpeg
>
> > I like tan myself.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
> >
>
> Me 2.
>
> I hate forking liars!

My mom had a 1970 Barracuda, which was the same car as the Challenger. That door panel was unique in that it was a single sheet of cast ABS. What a hard, cold, unfriendly, interior that was. My brother and I had to sit in the back. That was not good. My dad did a fast stop once and my face got planted on the pebbled ABS panel on the back of the seat. That was like sandpaper to my face. I can still feel it after nearly 50 years.

On 10/24/2017 2:08 PM, graham wrote:

> I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
> instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior if
> I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.

You did OK. Dealers make bundle on the coatings. It is nice stuff for
the right price but they charge $500 and up for it. The cost is less
than $100. Come time to trade or sell it will still look good though.

On 10/24/2017 2:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:08:50 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>>
>> I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
>> instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior if
>> I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.
>
> I don't recall ever seeing a car with white upholstery. I like tan myself.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
>

Scroll down a bit

https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en-GB/dawn.html

On 10/24/2017 1:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:46:34 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos
>>
>> It was all the rage in the 70s!
>>
>> http://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...terior_Web.jpg
>>
>> http://hot-cars.org/wp-content/uploa..._interior.jpeg
>>
>>> I like tan myself.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
>>>
>>
>> Me 2.
>>
>> I hate forking liars!
>
> My mom had a 1970 Barracuda, which was the same car as the Challenger. That door panel was unique in that it was a single sheet of cast ABS. What a hard, cold, unfriendly, interior that was. My brother and I had to sit in the back. That was not good. My dad did a fast stop once and my face got planted on the pebbled ABS panel on the back of the seat. That was like sandpaper to my face. I can still feel it after nearly 50 years.
>

It's prolly heresy in the classic car world to agree with you, but...

Except for the cool pistol grip wood shift knob, the interior was All
cheap CRAP!

As for seeing out of that tub - luck with that!

Highest dashboard of the day.

But the engines and exterior...oh man...

On 10/24/2017 1:08 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/24/2017 2:08 PM, graham wrote:
>
>> I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
>> instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior
>> if I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.
>
> You did OK.Â* Dealers makeÂ* bundle on the coatings.Â* It is nice stuff for
> the right price but they charge $500 and up for it.Â* The cost is less
> than $100.Â* Come time to trade or sell it will still look good though.

I prefer a clear 3M frontal wrap and a good regular polymer/wax annual
treatment.

But have a clay bar on hand for the tar, bugs and grit.

On 10/24/2017 1:12 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/24/2017 2:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:08:50 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>>>
>>> I ordered my Mazda CX5 with black upholstery but it arrived with white
>>> instead. They offered free protectant and an overcoat on the exterior if
>>> I would accept it - and i did. And I'm glad I did! Exterior is red.
>>
>> I don't recall ever seeing a car with white upholstery. I like tan
>> myself.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
>>
>
> Scroll down a bit
>
> https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en-GB/dawn.html
>

Value plays:

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...w/2002035.html

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...w/1994802.html

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 10/24/2017 11:44 AM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 10/24/2017 9:41 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Funny how some cars look good in a particular color but others don't.
>> Mine would look hideous in yellow but I'd buy a yellow Corvette.
>
> If you do - get one of this year's Vettes - with the new mid engine
> model due for next year the collectibility factor is very high.


I keep saying I want one and my wife says if I managed to get in it I
would never get out. I'd have to live in it and just get my meals at
the drive thru window. I don't see any downside

====

<g> she knows you too well ...

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 9:18:59 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>
> It's prolly heresy in the classic car world to agree with you, but...
>
> Except for the cool pistol grip wood shift knob, the interior was All
> cheap CRAP!
>
> As for seeing out of that tub - luck with that!
>
> Highest dashboard of the day.
>
> But the engines and exterior...oh man...

The car would easily break traction on the rear wheels - too much weight on the front. It had a high beltline and you did sit low in the car. The power steering was over boosted and the small steering wheel was set so low that it rubbed on the driver's thighs. I have no idea why it was designed that way.

My 67 notchback Barracuda with the 273 V8 was a much more enjoyable ride. It had one of the cleanest design in automobile history. That clean design style was carried on in the 1970 models.

https://gearheads.org/wp-content/upl...a-1969_r4..jpg

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:39:16 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> > I suppose one could call it "off-white".
>
> Not to dis your car or anything but a car with a white interior would make me think that Elvis is in the house. Now that's one guy that must have had a Caddy with a white interior. If it's good enough for Elvis, I guess I can live with one too.

In Scotland, many rural school children who live off the beaten track
get free taxi transport (the education department contracts private hire
firms).

At one time the taxi company which carried my kids home from school,
started using their brand new wedding-hire car for our school run. It
was a white limo with an all-white leather interior. There was a lot of
grief from the driver about marks on the seats from the grubby/muddy
state of the boys after their usual day wrestling and playing football
in the playground.

Janet UK

On 10/24/2017 6:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 9:18:59 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>> It's prolly heresy in the classic car world to agree with you, but...
>>
>> Except for the cool pistol grip wood shift knob, the interior was All
>> cheap CRAP!
>>
>> As for seeing out of that tub - luck with that!
>>
>> Highest dashboard of the day.
>>
>> But the engines and exterior...oh man...
>
> The car would easily break traction on the rear wheels - too much weight on the front.

Iirc rear weight bia s% was in the mid to low 40s - you be right.


> It had a high beltline and you did sit low in the car. The power steering was over boosted and the small steering wheel was set so low that it rubbed on the driver's thighs. I have no idea why it was designed that way.

I will confirm all that!

> My 67 notchback Barracuda with the 273 V8 was a much more enjoyable ride. It had one of the cleanest design in automobile history. That clean design style was carried on in the 1970 models.
>
> https://gearheads.org/wp-content/upl...da-1969_r4.jpg

You know your rides, early Cudas were a better product, certainly cabin
wise.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/17/10/7...217a066ba5.jpg

http://www.american-muscle-cars.net/...d-INTERIOR.jpg

The exterior styling while less "coke bottle" on the flanks is clean and
tasteful.

And red line tires are always kewl!

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 8:39:16 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>> I suppose one could call it "off-white".
>
> Not to dis your car or anything but a car with a white interior would make
> me think that Elvis is in the house. Now that's one guy that must have had
> a Caddy with a white interior. If it's good enough for Elvis, I guess I
> can live with one too.


Don't forget the "57" Chevy red convertible with white tuck and roll
upholstery. Now, that was a car.

Cheri

On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 4:45:43 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 10/24/2017 6:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 9:18:59 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> >>
> >> It's prolly heresy in the classic car world to agree with you, but...
> >>
> >> Except for the cool pistol grip wood shift knob, the interior was All
> >> cheap CRAP!
> >>
> >> As for seeing out of that tub - luck with that!
> >>
> >> Highest dashboard of the day.
> >>
> >> But the engines and exterior...oh man...
> >
> > The car would easily break traction on the rear wheels - too much weight on the front.
>
> Iirc rear weight bia s% was in the mid to low 40s - you be right.
>
>
> > It had a high beltline and you did sit low in the car. The power steering was over boosted and the small steering wheel was set so low that it rubbed on the driver's thighs. I have no idea why it was designed that way.
>
> I will confirm all that!
>
> > My 67 notchback Barracuda with the 273 V8 was a much more enjoyable ride. It had one of the cleanest design in automobile history. That clean design style was carried on in the 1970 models.
> >
> > https://gearheads.org/wp-content/upl...da-1969_r4.jpg
>
> You know your rides, early Cudas were a better product, certainly cabin
> wise.
>
> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/17/10/7...217a066ba5.jpg
>
> http://www.american-muscle-cars.net/...d-INTERIOR.jpg
>
> The exterior styling while less "coke bottle" on the flanks is clean and
> tasteful.
>
> And red line tires are always kewl!

My 67 Barracuda had a vacuum gauge instead of a tach. I thought that was the neatest thing. I wish I had vacuum gauges in my cars. They teach the driver the relationship between power and efficiency modes of driving. You can use it to diagnose engine problems. Vacuum gauges tell you how the engine is breathing.

I was talking today with my son's cheap Chinese landlord. He has a wonderful 68 911. This guy is around 90 years old. My wife said he doesn't fit the car. I said that he probably did when he got it in 68.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...U25ozk4X15EEMN

On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 7:37:40 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>
> Don't forget the "57" Chevy red convertible with white tuck and roll
> upholstery. Now, that was a car.
>
> Cheri

You're right about that. All the one's I've seen are two-tone. White with blue or white with red material. I'm glad they stuck with those colors.

On 10/25/2017 5:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 4:45:43 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 10/24/2017 6:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 9:18:59 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's prolly heresy in the classic car world to agree with you, but...
>>>>
>>>> Except for the cool pistol grip wood shift knob, the interior was All
>>>> cheap CRAP!
>>>>
>>>> As for seeing out of that tub - luck with that!
>>>>
>>>> Highest dashboard of the day.
>>>>
>>>> But the engines and exterior...oh man...
>>>
>>> The car would easily break traction on the rear wheels - too much weight on the front.
>>
>> Iirc rear weight bia s% was in the mid to low 40s - you be right.
>>
>>
>>> It had a high beltline and you did sit low in the car. The power steering was over boosted and the small steering wheel was set so low that it rubbed on the driver's thighs. I have no idea why it was designed that way.
>>
>> I will confirm all that!
>>
>>> My 67 notchback Barracuda with the 273 V8 was a much more enjoyable ride. It had one of the cleanest design in automobile history. That clean design style was carried on in the 1970 models.
>>>
>>> https://gearheads.org/wp-content/upl...da-1969_r4.jpg
>>
>> You know your rides, early Cudas were a better product, certainly cabin
>> wise.
>>
>> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/17/10/7...217a066ba5.jpg
>>
>> http://www.american-muscle-cars.net/...d-INTERIOR.jpg
>>
>> The exterior styling while less "coke bottle" on the flanks is clean and
>> tasteful.
>>
>> And red line tires are always kewl!
>
> My 67 Barracuda had a vacuum gauge instead of a tach. I thought that was the neatest thing.

Me too, they've shown up again in more modern guise on some hybrids.

> I wish I had vacuum gauges in my cars. They teach the driver the relationship between power and efficiency modes of driving. You can use it to diagnose engine problems. Vacuum gauges tell you how the engine is breathing.

And if you're on an automatic tranny they're genius for suggestion
upshifting by lifting off the gas at the right vac. peak.

> I was talking today with my son's cheap Chinese landlord. He has a wonderful 68 911. This guy is around 90 years old. My wife said he doesn't fit the car. I said that he probably did when he got it in 68.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...U25ozk4X15EEMN
>

I kinda dig the color, it's not your typical sunflower yellow, more of a
deep butter hue.

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:05:09 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>
> I kinda dig the color, it's not your typical sunflower yellow, more of a
> deep butter hue.

That was a popular color for Porches. Bahama Yellow.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 7:37:40 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Don't forget the "57" Chevy red convertible with white tuck and roll
>> upholstery. Now, that was a car.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> You're right about that. All the one's I've seen are two-tone. White with
> blue or white with red material. I'm glad they stuck with those colors.


I have seen them at car shows with all white, but mostly as you say, two
tone. I think that car in the movie "Losin it" had all white, but can't say
for sure.

Cheri

On 10/25/2017 5:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> My 67 Barracuda had a vacuum gauge instead of a tach. I thought that was the neatest thing.

Here's a pic of what I consider to be the pre-70s most desirable 'Cuda:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/ed/bd/4...8623576165.jpg

Those colors, those scoops, but those tires oughta be red lines.

And these are still very reasonable by comparison to the '70-'72 Hemi Cudas.

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...outh-Barracuda


Current Values

#1 Concours$28,500

Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
finest concours.

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...-plymouth-cuda

Current Values

#1 Concours$63,900

Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
finest concours.

On 10/25/2017 7:11 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:05:09 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>> I kinda dig the color, it's not your typical sunflower yellow, more of a
>> deep butter hue.
>
> That was a popular color for Porches. Bahama Yellow.
>

Thankee!

Yeah I'd drive that, if you have spare shoehorn...

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:13:28 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 10/25/2017 5:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > My 67 Barracuda had a vacuum gauge instead of a tach. I thought that was the neatest thing.
>
> Here's a pic of what I consider to be the pre-70s most desirable 'Cuda:
>
> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/ed/bd/4...8623576165.jpg
>
> Those colors, those scoops, but those tires oughta be red lines.
>
> And these are still very reasonable by comparison to the '70-'72 Hemi Cudas.
>
> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...outh-Barracuda
>
>
> Current Values
>
> #1 Concours$28,500
>
> Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
> the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
> finest concours.
>
> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...-plymouth-cuda
>
> Current Values
>
> #1 Concours$63,900
>
> Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
> the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
> finest concours.

I used to drive my boss's 74 440 Duster. It had big tires in the back and small tires in the front. Everything was going fine until I had to do a quick stop and the tires squealed beyond all reason and the back started sliding. Ha ha, I must have looked like a real rube behind the wheel.

These days, I wouldn't mind having one of these Fiat 124 Sport Coupe. I liked them so much, I had 3 of them back in the day.

https://skbass.files.wordpress.com/2...offiat124d.jpg

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:13:53 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>
>
> I have seen them at car shows with all white, but mostly as you say, two
> tone. I think that car in the movie "Losin it" had all white, but can't say
> for sure.
>
> Cheri

I never did like that movie but that's a good question.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:13:53 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have seen them at car shows with all white, but mostly as you say, two
>> tone. I think that car in the movie "Losin it" had all white, but can't
>> say
>> for sure.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I never did like that movie but that's a good question.


The movie was pretty awful, but the car was great as far as I can recall.

Cheri

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 8:11:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:05:09 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> >
> > I kinda dig the color, it's not your typical sunflower yellow, more of a
> > deep butter hue.
>
> That was a popular color for Porches. Bahama Yellow.

Guards Red was the only Porsche color worth having! ;-)

John Kuthe...

On 10/25/2017 11:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> These days, I wouldn't mind having one of these Fiat 124 Sport Coupe. I liked them so much, I had 3 of them back in the day.
>
> https://skbass.files.wordpress.com/2...offiat124d.jpg
>

One to drive while the other two were in the shop.
Fix It Again Tony

On 10/25/2017 9:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:13:28 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 10/25/2017 5:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> My 67 Barracuda had a vacuum gauge instead of a tach. I thought that was the neatest thing.
>>
>> Here's a pic of what I consider to be the pre-70s most desirable 'Cuda:
>>
>> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/ed/bd/4...8623576165.jpg
>>
>> Those colors, those scoops, but those tires oughta be red lines.
>>
>> And these are still very reasonable by comparison to the '70-'72 Hemi Cudas.
>>
>> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...outh-Barracuda
>>
>>
>> Current Values
>>
>> #1 Concours$28,500
>>
>> Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
>> the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
>> finest concours.
>>
>> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...-plymouth-cuda
>>
>> Current Values
>>
>> #1 Concours$63,900
>>
>> Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
>> the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
>> finest concours.
>
> I used to drive my boss's 74 440 Duster. It had big tires in the back and small tires in the front. Everything was going fine until I had to do a quick stop and the tires squealed beyond all reason and the back started sliding. Ha ha, I must have looked like a real rube behind the wheel.
>
> These days, I wouldn't mind having one of these Fiat 124 Sport Coupe. I liked them so much, I had 3 of them back in the day.
>
> https://skbass.files.wordpress.com/2...offiat124d.jpg
>
One of the all time classic body styles, I dig the whole Alfa/FIAT
styling milieu!

Like:

http://en.classicpark.com/uploads/00...000540-09).JPG

https://www.hagertyinsurance.co.uk/p...rint%20750.jpg

Yeah!

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 4:34:08 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/25/2017 11:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> One to drive while the other two were in the shop.
> Fix It Again Tony

I never owned more than one car at a time back in those days. That would be unthinkable. I wouldn't recommend that anybody own a Fiat unless they knew and understood them. I knew and understood them and they were wonderful cars. They were cars ahead of their time.

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 6:46:13 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 10/25/2017 9:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:13:28 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> >> On 10/25/2017 5:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>> My 67 Barracuda had a vacuum gauge instead of a tach. I thought that was the neatest thing.
> >>
> >> Here's a pic of what I consider to be the pre-70s most desirable 'Cuda:
> >>
> >> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/ed/bd/4...8623576165.jpg
> >>
> >> Those colors, those scoops, but those tires oughta be red lines.
> >>
> >> And these are still very reasonable by comparison to the '70-'72 Hemi Cudas.
> >>
> >> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...outh-Barracuda
> >>
> >>
> >> Current Values
> >>
> >> #1 Concours$28,500
> >>
> >> Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
> >> the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
> >> finest concours.
> >>
> >> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...-plymouth-cuda
> >>
> >> Current Values
> >>
> >> #1 Concours$63,900
> >>
> >> Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
> >> the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
> >> finest concours.
> >
> > I used to drive my boss's 74 440 Duster. It had big tires in the back and small tires in the front. Everything was going fine until I had to do a quick stop and the tires squealed beyond all reason and the back started sliding. Ha ha, I must have looked like a real rube behind the wheel.
> >
> > These days, I wouldn't mind having one of these Fiat 124 Sport Coupe. I liked them so much, I had 3 of them back in the day.
> >
> > https://skbass.files.wordpress.com/2...offiat124d.jpg
> >
> One of the all time classic body styles, I dig the whole Alfa/FIAT
> styling milieu!
>
> Like:
>
> http://en.classicpark.com/uploads/00...000540-09).JPG
>
> https://www.hagertyinsurance.co.uk/p...rint%20750.jpg
>
> Yeah!

Beautiful cars, those Alfas. GM thought so highly of the 124 Sport Coupe that they bought a few and took them apart. Then they built their own version.. That didn't turn out so well.

http://barnfinds.com/wp-content/uplo...-Notchback.jpg

On 10/26/2017 12:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 4:34:08 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/25/2017 11:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> One to drive while the other two were in the shop.
>> Fix It Again Tony
>
> I never owned more than one car at a time back in those days. That would be unthinkable. I wouldn't recommend that anybody own a Fiat unless they knew and understood them. I knew and understood them and they were wonderful cars. They were cars ahead of their time.
>

It's not a bad thing to be able to fix your own car and frankly Fiats
were not that hard to work on.

Having to do so is another thing.

On 10/26/2017 12:56 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 6:46:13 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 10/25/2017 9:00 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:13:28 PM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>>> On 10/25/2017 5:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> My 67 Barracuda had a vacuum gauge instead of a tach. I thought that was the neatest thing.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a pic of what I consider to be the pre-70s most desirable 'Cuda:
>>>>
>>>> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/ed/bd/4...8623576165.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Those colors, those scoops, but those tires oughta be red lines.
>>>>
>>>> And these are still very reasonable by comparison to the '70-'72 Hemi Cudas.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...outh-Barracuda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Current Values
>>>>
>>>> #1 Concours$28,500
>>>>
>>>> Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
>>>> the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
>>>> finest concours.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuati...-plymouth-cuda
>>>>
>>>> Current Values
>>>>
>>>> #1 Concours$63,900
>>>>
>>>> Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of
>>>> the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the
>>>> finest concours.
>>>
>>> I used to drive my boss's 74 440 Duster. It had big tires in the back and small tires in the front. Everything was going fine until I had to do a quick stop and the tires squealed beyond all reason and the back started sliding. Ha ha, I must have looked like a real rube behind the wheel.
>>>
>>> These days, I wouldn't mind having one of these Fiat 124 Sport Coupe. I liked them so much, I had 3 of them back in the day.
>>>
>>> https://skbass.files.wordpress.com/2...offiat124d.jpg
>>>
>> One of the all time classic body styles, I dig the whole Alfa/FIAT
>> styling milieu!
>>
>> Like:
>>
>> http://en.classicpark.com/uploads/00...000540-09).JPG
>>
>> https://www.hagertyinsurance.co.uk/p...rint%20750.jpg
>>
>> Yeah!
>
> Beautiful cars, those Alfas. GM thought so highly of the 124 Sport Coupe that they bought a few and took them apart. Then they built their own version. That didn't turn out so well.
>
> http://barnfinds.com/wp-content/uplo...-Notchback.jpg
>

LOl, the Cosworth variant however was actually pretty nifty, in the
idiom of nasty 70s cars anyway:



Interesting comparison road test:

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mercu...cury-capri-ii/

By mid-72 this technological gem was spinning out 170 hp at 7600 rpm
and 126 lb-ft at 4000 €” heady stuff in a 2300-pound car €” but
part-throttle driveability was poor and emissions werent clean enough.
By May 1973, output was down to 130 hp and 116 lb-ft, but Car and Driver
took a prototype to 60 mph in 7.7 seconds with a 16.2-second 85-mph
quarter mile, proclaiming, €œThe only four-passenger coupes faster than a
Cosworth Vega have a Detroit V-8 under the hood.€�

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 11:48:41 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>
> It's not a bad thing to be able to fix your own car and frankly Fiats
> were not that hard to work on.
>
> Having to do so is another thing.

Most of those late 60's cars are going to be easy to work on. The main trouble spot on the 124 was the timing belt for the twin cam engine. That was easier to replace than the timing chains on most other OHC engines of the era.

On 10/26/2017 5:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 11:48:41 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>> It's not a bad thing to be able to fix your own car and frankly Fiats
>> were not that hard to work on.
>>
>> Having to do so is another thing.
>
> Most of those late 60's cars are going to be easy to work on. The main trouble spot on the 124 was the timing belt for the twin cam engine. That was easier to replace than the timing chains on most other OHC engines of the era.
>


Was it a mandatory water pump swap too, as most are?

I am just totally a timing chain guy.

So much more reliable.

Never really heard of one being prone to breakage either...