On 2017-10-30 1:21 PM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Our Target-like stores back in The Day were Hill's, Gee Bee's, Zayre,
>> and GC Murphy's Mart.
>
> I remember Zayre back in the days.
> (Same building is now a PetsMart)
> It was a good large store and as all of them,
> they had about 12 checkout lanes but even during
> the busiest times of year, only one or two lanes
> were open.
>


That sounds like the Miracle Mart grocery store that used to be in mall
a few miles from here. I think their policy was that there had to be at
least 8 people with carts in line before they would open another
checkout. I was in there a couple times and waited in line until the ice
cream started to melt and then I would just walk away and go to another
store. That place didn't last very long.

On 2017-10-30 1:22 PM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:

>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it in the
>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>
> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.


It is quite common to have a heater only in the front, especially in
lower end models. Higher end cars sometimes come with rear heat/AC
vents. It is usually not a separate heater, just another air duct to a
ventilator in the back that can be opened or closed. Our 1997 Buick had
a rear heat vent. My 1992 Mazda MPV had a rear heater.

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 7:47:16 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>
>
> Many of the VW heaters were also gas powered - freaky!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWN4CVbAuM
>
> Hard to imagine NHTSA ever letting that pass muster today.

Corvairs had them too. That's the problem with air-cooled engines. There's no heat source that's readily available to draw from. That's a problem for electric cars too. I suppose they just use an electric heater.

On 10/30/2017 1:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 10/30/2017 12:43 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 10/30/2017 11:22 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ding - Dong Daddy" > wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a new one on me...I know I'll never visit an IKEA again
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> they force you to go through a cattle shoot to buy anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was there once. Horrible! That store has since moved. Not sure how
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> at the new location. We didn't even buy much. Had a bite to eat in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cafe.
>>>>>> They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar. Not
>>>>>> near
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a few
>>>>>> desk
>>>>>> accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold that
>>>>>> day
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> we were freezing in the car.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>>>
>>>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it in
>>>> the
>>>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>>>
>>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>>
>>
>> VW Karmann Ghia comes to mind:
>>
>> https://auto.howstuffworks.com/volks...mann-ghia2.htm
>
> Forgot about that.Â* I had two Ghias and since the engine was in the
> rear, the heat came from the back.Â* Except on my '64 convertible where
> the heat ducts rusted away and had no heat.Â* My Corvair had heat ducts
> both front and back but again, it all came from the back.
>
> ==
>
> Did it have separate switches for front and back?
>

You took all the heat you could get in the Ghia. Nothing separate. The
Corvair had vent you could open or close.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 10/30/2017 1:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
> On 10/30/2017 12:43 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 10/30/2017 11:22 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ding - Dong Daddy" > wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a new one on me...I know I'll never visit an IKEA again
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> they force you to go through a cattle shoot to buy anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was there once. Horrible! That store has since moved. Not sure how
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> at the new location. We didn't even buy much. Had a bite to eat in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cafe.
>>>>>> They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar. Not
>>>>>> near
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a few
>>>>>> desk
>>>>>> accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold that
>>>>>> day
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> we were freezing in the car.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>>>
>>>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it in
>>>> the
>>>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>>>
>>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>>
>>
>> VW Karmann Ghia comes to mind:
>>
>> https://auto.howstuffworks.com/volks...mann-ghia2.htm
>
> Forgot about that. I had two Ghias and since the engine was in the
> rear, the heat came from the back. Except on my '64 convertible where
> the heat ducts rusted away and had no heat. My Corvair had heat ducts
> both front and back but again, it all came from the back.
>
> ==
>
> Did it have separate switches for front and back?
>

You took all the heat you could get in the Ghia. Nothing separate. The
Corvair had vent you could open or close.

==

I've had cars like that too)



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 10/30/2017 1:47 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 10/30/2017 11:25 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/30/2017 12:43 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>> On 10/30/2017 11:22 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Ding - Dong Daddy" > wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's a new one on me...I know I'll never visit an IKEA again
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> they force you to go through a cattle shoot to buy anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was there once. Horrible! That store has since moved. Not sure
>>>>>>> how it is
>>>>>>> at the new location. We didn't even buy much. Had a bite to eat
>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>> cafe.
>>>>>>> They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar.
>>>>>>> Not near
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a
>>>>>>> few desk
>>>>>>> accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold
>>>>>>> that day
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> we were freezing in the car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it
>>>>> in the
>>>>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>>>>
>>>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>>>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>>>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>>>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>>>
>>>
>>> VW Karmann Ghia comes to mind:
>>>
>>> https://auto.howstuffworks.com/volks...mann-ghia2.htm
>>
>> Forgot about that.Â* I had two Ghias and since the engine was in the
>> rear, the heat came from the back.Â* Except on my '64 convertible where
>> the heat ducts rusted away and had no heat.Â* My Corvair had heat ducts
>> both front and back but again, it all came from the back.
>
>
> Many of the VW heaters were also gas powered - freaky!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWN4CVbAuM
>
> Hard to imagine NHTSA ever letting that pass muster today.
>
>

Corvair had a gas heater in 60 and 61. It was supposed to be rather
good too. It cut your mileage by 6 or 7 MPG when used.

I had a Monza coupe, a fun car to drive with a modified shifter to make
a short stroke between gears. It even has an AM/FM radio.

On 10/30/2017 2:23 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 7:47:16 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>>
>> Many of the VW heaters were also gas powered - freaky!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWN4CVbAuM
>>
>> Hard to imagine NHTSA ever letting that pass muster today.
>
> Corvairs had them too. That's the problem with air-cooled engines. There's no heat source that's readily available to draw from. That's a problem for electric cars too. I suppose they just use an electric heater.
>
>
>


I've not had the opportunity to find out in person yet, how well the
electric cars do in very hot or cold temperatures. It takes a lot of
energy to heat and cool a car. If I bought a Tesla for $135k I'd expect
comfort so I guess they are doing it.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:20:03 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/30/2017 1:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>Can't speak for Julie, but if I wanted Cabot cheese and it was available
>in a store 6 miles away I'd go get some. She doesn't *really* want
>Cabot cheese.

You have a strange tendency of theorising and talking in the 3rd
person about people who are present.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:34:03 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 10/30/2017 7:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:18:51 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> Nahhhh There are small doors that open onto the next department ;p
>>>
>> That's rather curious. We don't have such things on this rock and, I suspect, neither does the mainland.
>>
>I've been to a couple of Ikeas in New Jersey - both of them had those
>shortcuts. They're not obvious, but they are there.

Same in the 2 countries where I've been to Ikeas.

On 2017-10-30 3:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:34:03 -0400, S Viemeister
>
>>>> Nahhhh There are small doors that open onto the next
>>>> department ;p
>>>>
>>> That's rather curious. We don't have such things on this rock
>>> and, I suspect, neither does the mainland.
>>>
>> I've been to a couple of Ikeas in New Jersey - both of them had
>> those shortcuts. They're not obvious, but they are there.
>
> Same in the 2 countries where I've been to Ikeas.

Enjoy the adventure. It is always an experience shopping at Ikea. There
are actually on line maps for Ikea stores, and even apps to help you
find your way through them.

On 10/30/2017 12:23 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 7:47:16 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>>
>> Many of the VW heaters were also gas powered - freaky!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWN4CVbAuM
>>
>> Hard to imagine NHTSA ever letting that pass muster today.
>
> Corvairs had them too. That's the problem with air-cooled engines. There's no heat source that's readily available to draw from. That's a problem for electric cars too. I suppose they just use an electric heater.
>
>
>
In our climate that could make for some nasty range-limiting days come
December...

On 10/30/2017 12:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/30/2017 1:47 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 10/30/2017 11:25 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 10/30/2017 12:43 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>>> On 10/30/2017 11:22 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Ding - Dong Daddy" > wrote in
>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's a new one on me...I know I'll never visit an IKEA again
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> they force you to go through a cattle shoot to buy anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was there once. Horrible! That store has since moved. Not sure
>>>>>>>> how it is
>>>>>>>> at the new location. We didn't even buy much. Had a bite to eat
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> cafe.
>>>>>>>> They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar.
>>>>>>>> Not near
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a
>>>>>>>> few desk
>>>>>>>> accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold
>>>>>>>> that day
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> we were freezing in the car.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>>>>>
>>>>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>>>>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>>>>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>>>>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VW Karmann Ghia comes to mind:
>>>>
>>>> https://auto.howstuffworks.com/volks...mann-ghia2.htm
>>>
>>> Forgot about that.Â* I had two Ghias and since the engine was in the
>>> rear, the heat came from the back.Â* Except on my '64 convertible
>>> where the heat ducts rusted away and had no heat.Â* My Corvair had
>>> heat ducts both front and back but again, it all came from the back.
>>
>>
>> Many of the VW heaters were also gas powered - freaky!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvWN4CVbAuM
>>
>> Hard to imagine NHTSA ever letting that pass muster today.
>>
>>
>
> Corvair had a gas heater in 60 and 61.

Aha!

> It was supposed to be rather
> good too.Â* It cut your mileage by 6 or 7 MPG when used.

Wow, and that's for a car with typically a 1brl. carb, 2 at most!

> I had a Monza coupe, a fun car to drive with a modified shifter to make
> a short stroke between gears.Â* It even has an AM/FM radio.

I thought those were superb vehicles, especially the later model years.

The turbo models were the best.

So much cabin space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnMDNn5DkLw

Does one guy in the balloon look familiar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzd...aIfoXFCgO0B_uw

The other brunette...maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbfX4bi8Epo

On 10/30/2017 1:09 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:20:03 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/30/2017 1:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>> Can't speak for Julie, but if I wanted Cabot cheese and it was available
>> in a store 6 miles away I'd go get some. She doesn't *really* want
>> Cabot cheese.
>
> You have a strange tendency of theorising and talking in the 3rd
> person about people who are present.
>

Says the snark master who slimes EVERYONE in his trail...

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/30/2017 1:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 21:56:29 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>> QUALITY FOOD CENTER 819
>>>> 18921 Bothell Way NE
>>>> Bothell, WA 98011
>>>> (425) 485-7548
>>>
>>> No clue where that is. Don't even know where that street is. If in
>>> downtown
>>> Bothell, I won't go there. Roads are being changed all around. Lemme
>>> Mapquest it. Hmmm... 5.6 miles from me. Looks like it might be the tiny
>>> QFC
>>> near Bothell High School. Sorry but no way would I go there for cheese.
>>
>> But the fact remains, that they have Cabot cheese at at least 2
>> grocery stores in Bothell. Why do you always you to such great
>> lengths to deny something's existence in your area? Every time you
>> claim "we don't have that here" it turns out to be a lie. Why do you
>> even have to constantly claim "you don't have this/that here", anyway?
>> To get out of some other lie?
>>
>> Sheesh, Julie.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> Can't speak for Julie, but if I wanted Cabot cheese and it was available
> in a store 6 miles away I'd go get some. She doesn't *really* want Cabot
> cheese.
>
> Jill

I never said that I did want it. But if I did want it, it wouldn't be the
one and only Cabot cheese that is available here. Some kind of cloth wrapped
cheddar.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:20:03 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 10/30/2017 1:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>Can't speak for Julie, but if I wanted Cabot cheese and it was available
>>in a store 6 miles away I'd go get some. She doesn't *really* want
>>Cabot cheese.
>
> You have a strange tendency of theorising and talking in the 3rd
> person about people who are present.

She does.

On 10/30/2017 4:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:20:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/30/2017 1:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>> Can't speak for Julie, but if I wanted Cabot cheese and it was available
>>> in a store 6 miles away I'd go get some.Â* She doesn't *really* want
>>> Cabot cheese.
>>
>> You have a strange tendency of theorising and talking in the 3rd
>> person about people who are present.
>
> She does.


Puleeeeze, don't egg the snark/troll machine on.

I just got him back in the box of civil behaviour!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Ding - Dong Daddy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >>> That's a new one on me...I know I'll never visit an IKEA again
>> >>> because
>> >>> they force you to go through a cattle shoot to buy anything.
>> >>
>> >>I was there once. Horrible! That store has since moved. Not sure how it
>> >>is
>> >>at the new location. We didn't even buy much. Had a bite to eat in the
>> >>cafe.
>> >>They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar. Not
>> >>near
>> >>me
>> >>though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a few
>> >>desk
>> >>accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold that day
>> >>and
>> >>we were freezing in the car.
>> >
>> > Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>
>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it in the
>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>
> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.

More expensive vehicles have separate controls for heat and AC for the back
seat. They might also have heated seats.

In a car with only heat/AC in the front, that air only blows where the front
seat passengers want it to blow. If they don't want you to have any, you
won't.

Also in a van, if you are in the very back, it's likely that you won't get
any heat or AC.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
news
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>"Ding - Dong Daddy" > wrote in
>>> >>message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> >>> That's a new one on me...I know I'll never visit an IKEA again
>>> >>> because
>>> >>> they force you to go through a cattle shoot to buy anything.
>>> >>
>>> >>I was there once. Horrible! That store has since moved. Not sure how
>>> >>it is
>>> >>at the new location. We didn't even buy much. Had a bite to eat in the
>>> >>cafe.
>>> >>They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar. Not
>>> >>near
>>> >>me
>>> >>though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a few
>>> >>desk
>>> >>accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold that
>>> >>day
>>> >>and
>>> >>we were freezing in the car.
>>> >
>>> > Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>>
>>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it in the
>>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>>
>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>
>
> Maybe she meant vents?

I don't know what it was but in my husband's old Buick Park Ave., there were
controls in the middle for the back seat. Kind of between the two front
seats but behind them, allowing the back seat passengers to have as much or
as little heat or AC as they wanted.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:31:16 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 19:12:16 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 17:29:49 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>>>>>>news:752cvcdaovas4ssor1b47rp1r4tl0t8bsa@4ax. com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 12:29:42 -0400, Nancy Young >
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 10/29/2017 12:06 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2017 11:00 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has your Target constructed 'blind alleys'? I mean, you go down
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> aisle intending to get to the back of the store and the aisle dead
>>>>>>>>> ends and you have to go half the length of the store to try again?
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> Target here has done that and I won't shop there for the one thing
>>>>>>>>> that I need that they carry. I'll order online instead. It's
>>>>>>>>> creepy.
>>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never saw that; doubt the fire marshal would approve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The only thing I can think of is all the Targets I've been to
>>>>>>>have a wall halfway towards the back, it's kind of a barrier that
>>>>>>>makes you walk around it. Maybe it has one opening in the middle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>More or less divides the middle of the store into front and back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>nancy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>maybe that's it although it does create a blind alley. It was
>>>>>>something they put up after the store had been there for years. I
>>>>>>encountered it once, got what I needed without exploring and haven't
>>>>>>been back.
>>>>>>Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>>==
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've never seen that. It sounds dangerous
>>>>>
>>>>> I think most of us like to be able to see all the way to the back of
>>>>> the store. It made me feel trapped.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>>Weird. I can't think of too many stores where you can see all the way to
>>>>the
>>>>back. Not variety stores anyway...
>>>
>>> Either you are short or they have weird stores over your way.
>>
>>Nope. The K Mart I used to work at was very large. No way could you see
>>from
>>the front back to the Garden shop. Too many aisles and walls in the way.
>>Fred Meyer is the same.
>
> If you can't see any portion of the back wall of the store you aren't
> trying. Of course you can't see if you are face planted in the
> shelving in front of you. sheesh I can stand in my Walmart
> Superstore at the front door and see portions of the back wall. Man,
> I just wouldn't want to be anywhere near where you shop that is so
> crowded and obstructed that the place is a danger to your health.
> Janet US

I guess you avoid department stores then.

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 9:05:09 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>
> I've not had the opportunity to find out in person yet, how well the
> electric cars do in very hot or cold temperatures. It takes a lot of
> energy to heat and cool a car. If I bought a Tesla for $135k I'd expect
> comfort so I guess they are doing it.

I think the electric car should be powered by a small nuclear reactor. All the heat and cold that you want and no refueling ever. Just make sure you don't ever lose your coolant.

On 10/30/2017 5:23 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 9:05:09 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've not had the opportunity to find out in person yet, how well the
>> electric cars do in very hot or cold temperatures. It takes a lot of
>> energy to heat and cool a car. If I bought a Tesla for $135k I'd expect
>> comfort so I guess they are doing it.
>
> I think the electric car should be powered by a small nuclear reactor. All the heat and cold that you want and no refueling ever. Just make sure you don't ever lose your coolant.
>

Dang, the recovery/overflow tank on that would need to be made of
unobtanium!

On 10/30/2017 5:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Of course Julie latched
> right onto it, her being the Master of Petty Drama.
>
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Is it ok if I mention my husband in the military? We had to move
> > around a lot to the various places he served .. and I had to wait
> > for him terrified, when he was away fighting in wars?
>
> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different ways.
> Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's hard to
> find an high paying job when you have a military spouse. The employer
> knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us had to make do
> with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>
> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a challenge.
> Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some things were the
> same of course but many were not. Different brands, not much in the
> way of Mexican food.

Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than a
disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.

--

Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "cshenk" wrote in message
> ...
>
> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > "Ophelia" wrote in message ...
> >
> > wrote in message ...
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT), Ding - Dong Daddy
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> >> > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:50:32 -0500, Sqwertz
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 00:52:18 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> > >
> >>>>> No BJs or Cabots here.
> >> > >
> >> > > Fred Meyer and QFC both carry Cabot cheese. Gee, imagine that
> - >> > > another lie.
> >> > >
> >>>>> I think Costco cheese is usually around 5 pound
> >>>>> blocks or bigger. Let me check. Yep. Blocks of cheddar are 5
> >pounds >> but you >>>> can get 40 pounds.
> >> > >
> >> > > Costco (such as the one in Woodnville) Kirkland brand cheddar
> >> > > cheese (and Monterey Jack, and Colby Jack) come in 32 ounce
> >> > > packages. Only the American cheese is in 5lb blocks (of
> >> > > slices). The Business Costco's may carry larger blocks, but
> >> > > why would you shop at a business Costco if you're always
> >> > > bitching about large sizes and limited selection when you have
> >> > > a regular Costco even closer to you?
> >> >
> >> > Unless one is catering a party why would they buy so many pounds
> >> > of cheese.... a two pound block of cheese would become moldy
> >> > before any normal human could eat it all. I buy cheese no more
> >> > than 1/2 pound at a time and no more than two kinds at a time and
> >> > then the two of us barely finish it and sometimes the last begins
> >> > to mold so the critters get some. Cheese is not something I
> >> > stock up on, since it's sold daily I only buy what we can consume
> >> > within a week or less.
> >> >
> >> > My wife will be coming home today, her son is driving her as
> she's >> > still not capable of driving the three hour trip. They
> decided >> > on my 12 ounce burgers for dinner tonight so they are
> defrosting >> > now. They will be bringing the hard rolls among
> other items we >> > can't buy here. Since her son likes cheese
> burgers yesterday I >> > bought a half pound of sliced Land O' Lakes
> white American >> > yesterday (he prefers white, doesn't believe the
> yellow is >> > anneto). The half pound is more than enough, maybe
> cheese >> > omelets the next day.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway my wife is already able to drive but still only short
> >> > distances, maybe just a half hour before stiffness sets in from
> >> > being in one position so long. Her doctor said that stiffness
> >> > will go away after three months as everything inside heals.
> >> > Outside she only has very small scars and those will also fade in
> >> > time. She loves her new knees, she says her knees feel like they
> >> > did at sixteen. She told everyone she wasn't coming home with a
> >> > walker and she's not.
> > >
> > >
> >> One thing I notice about you and your wife - along with some others
> >> here, and in real life - is that you possess a very positive (and
> >> realistic) mental attitude about things, along with the trait of
> >> resilience.
> > >
> >> Although age - wise I am a "senior", I HATE in general being around
> >> old people, the majority are constantly whining, complaining,
> >> kvetching. A few years back I ate senior lunch, it was provided
> >> daily at the senior center attached to my workplace. Despite it
> >> being a tasty and nutritious lunch (provided FREE by the city's
> >> 'Golden Diner" program), staffed by splendid caring volunteers, I
> >> was embarrassed by the behavior of the majority of attendees, I'd
> >> cringe at their pettiness and mean - spirited antics, particularly
> >> towards the staff providing the vittles, and in a very pleasant
> >> atmosphere to boot. I often thought, "If I ever act like that,
> >> please shoot me..."
> > >
> >> I've worked with job - seekers of many types, and I will tell you
> >> that working with seniors is the absolute worst, 98% are negative,
> >> so they are doomed before they get in the race. I prefer working
> >> with ex - cons, homeless, low - literacy populations, young single
> >> parents...ANYTHING except seniors! Those nasty 'n negative
> >> attitudes are nausea - inducing to be around...
> > >
> >> Anyways, 'scuze the rant...I'm glad your wife is doing well, and
> >> that is because not only is she in good physical shape, but she has
> >> that Positive Mental Attitude thing going for her, that is why she
> >> is decades "younger" than her actual on - the - clock age. Enjoy
> >> the homecoming...!!!
> >
> > A lot of seniors were spoiled brats as youngsters and became even
> > more spoiled as they age. I meet a lot of people of all ages who
> > have never suffered any set backs in life and always had a network
> > of family to pull them out of their self-created quicksand without
> > ever so much as a 'thank you'. The worst whiners by far and the
> > least appreciative of what they have, and the laziest are those who
> > never served in the military. And the very worst are those who
> > constantly take credit for a family member who served in the
> > military as if it was them who served... no one can ever know about
> > military life without ever being in the military themselves. I
> > have no respect for those who are constantly refering to a family
> > member having served... and today more than ever teh family
> > members of those having seved are being rewarded with all kinds of
> > undeserved recognition and even medals... I RESENT THAT FRIGGIN'
> > FOLD STAR FAMILY BULLSHIT... IT'S STEALING RECOGNITION FOR
> > SOMETHING ONE DIDN'T DO. Lots' of people lost someone to war, they
> > didn't get attaboys.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Is it ok if I mention my husband in the military? We had to move
> > around a lot to the various places he served .. and I had to wait
> > for him terrified, when he was away fighting in wars?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please note, I never have done what you are complaining about.
>
> Don't worry about it Ophelia. Sheldon likes to play big on his Navy
> tour but it was 1 or maybe 2. He didn't stick with it to retirement.
>
>
> I'm not the only one here is over 20 (honorable retirement USA) though
> I may be the only one here who went 26 with a husband who did 22 now
> (smaller group, I thing we had a few before). It was about 15 years
> ago when the shrapnel stopped cutting me up in bed as it worked out
> from his legs and back. That's mostly from the beruit truck bombing.
> He was tossed over a bunker.
>
> I respect the spouses well. The only thing I do not respect is the
> USA gives them top points for a GS job over disabled USA vets. To me
> that is wrong.
>
> ==
>
> I don't know anything about your last comment, we don't have that
> here, but thank you for the rest.

Basically the last part is Julie had a better chance at an 85K job even
if she was not qualified, than I do at one i am qualified for. Happened
to me recently. A spouse wh used to check in students got a GS 13 job
she was not qualified for and they were forced to accept because of
'points'. I got call back and asked if I would accept a GS9 job and
teacher her. Came with an apology over the system. I declined. BIG
paycut for me to go GS9 and I'd have had to do her job while she
poloshed her nails or something because she had not enough background
and i have 23 at that job.


--

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:46:55 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Basically the last part is Julie had a better chance at an 85K job even
>if she was not qualified, than I do at one i am qualified for. Happened
>to me recently. A spouse wh used to check in students got a GS 13 job
>she was not qualified for and they were forced to accept because of
>'points'. I got call back and asked if I would accept a GS9 job and
>teacher her. Came with an apology over the system. I declined. BIG
>paycut for me to go GS9 and I'd have had to do her job while she
>poloshed her nails or something because she had not enough background
>and i have 23 at that job.

I'd have hired you. Imagine an employee who can never be wrong!

On 10/30/2017 7:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:46:55 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Basically the last part is Julie had a better chance at an 85K job even
>> if she was not qualified, than I do at one i am qualified for. Happened
>> to me recently. A spouse wh used to check in students got a GS 13 job
>> she was not qualified for and they were forced to accept because of
>> 'points'. I got call back and asked if I would accept a GS9 job and
>> teacher her. Came with an apology over the system. I declined. BIG
>> paycut for me to go GS9 and I'd have had to do her job while she
>> poloshed her nails or something because she had not enough background
>> and i have 23 at that job.
>
> I'd have hired you. Imagine an employee who can never be wrong!
>

**** off you abominable wankstain!

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 1:29:33 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:18:51 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > Nahhhh There are small doors that open onto the next department ;p
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> That's rather curious. We don't have such things on this rock and, I
> suspect, neither does the mainland.
>
> https://devrivelazquez.files.wordpre...alice_door.jpg
>
> ==
>
> That isn't me you know ... ;p and we don't need a key to go through ... )
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I have seen movies with these secret doors in the UK. Usually, Vincent Price is in them.

I made some pies yesterday. I've found that shortcrust made in bags is just wonderful. The flour is placed in the bag along with some shortening. It's mixed into the flour by rubbing it between the fingers. When the water is added, the bag allows you to distribute the water without squishing the mix together. The flour is tossed about keeping the mixture loose. It's then stuck in the refrigerator to rest up. I squish the mix together with it's ready to roll. This makes a wonderfully flaky crust. Try it, it's the bomb. OTOH, I think I'll be making yeast doughs in my daughter's mixer. That's da bomb too.

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 1:35:18 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> I've been to a couple of Ikeas in New Jersey - both of them had those
> shortcuts. They're not obvious, but they are there.

So Ikea is the only store with these shortcuts? I don't think I would like a store with a layout that's made like a cattle chute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ZM9DaMv-w

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 21:56:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On 10/29/2017 8:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On 10/29/2017 2:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 2017-10-29, U.S Janet B > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Walmart carries Cabot in most states
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll look, next time I shop there. I don't recall seeing it,
>>>>>>> previously.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We usta find 5 yr old Cabot in small independent sprmkt chain (SFBA)
>>>>>>> during Xmas. No more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've only seen it on the east coast.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cabotcheese.coop/where-t...tle%2C%20WA;2;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> KRESS IGA
>>>>> 1427 3rd Ave
>>>>> Seattle, WA 98101
>>>>> (206) 749-9500
>>>>> View on Google Maps
>>>>> 6 Cabot Products Available
>>>>>
>>>>> QUALITY FOOD CENTER 847
>>>>> 1401 Broadway
>>>>> Seattle, WA 98122
>>>>> (206) 860-3818
>>>>> View on Google Maps
>>>>> 2 Cabot Products Available
>>>>>
>>>>> QUALITY FOOD CENTER 887
>>>>> 417 Broadway E
>>>>> Seattle, WA 98102
>>>>> (206) 328-6920
>>>>> View on Google Maps
>>>>> 2 Cabot Products Available
>>>>>
>>>>> QUALITY FOOD CENTER 804
>>>>> 416 15th Ave E
>>>>> Seattle, WA 98112
>>>>> (206) 322-5020
>>>>> View on Google Maps
>>>>> 2 Cabot Products Available
>>>>>
>>>>> QUALITY FOOD CENTER 881
>>>>> 500 Mercer St
>>>>> Seattle, WA 98109
>>>>> (206) 352-4020
>>>>> View on Google Maps
>>>>> 2 Cabot Products Available
>>>>>
>>>>> METROPOLITAN MARKET 157
>>>>> 100 Mercer St
>>>>> Seattle, WA 98109
>>>>> (206) 213-0778
>>>>> View on Google Maps
>>>>
>>>> That could be. I never shop in Seattle. Didn't even know that we still
>>>> had IGA. I used to like them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, it just so happens that YOU are in luck today,!
>>>
>>> https://www.cabotcheese.coop/where-t...ell%2C%20WA;2;
>>>
>>>
>>> QUALITY FOOD CENTER 819
>>> 18921 Bothell Way NE
>>> Bothell, WA 98011
>>> (425) 485-7548
>>
>>No clue where that is. Don't even know where that street is. If in
>>downtown
>>Bothell, I won't go there. Roads are being changed all around. Lemme
>>Mapquest it. Hmmm... 5.6 miles from me. Looks like it might be the tiny
>>QFC
>>near Bothell High School. Sorry but no way would I go there for cheese.
>>Takes too long to get there and back. Parking lot is tiny and hard to get
>>in
>>and out of. Plus the store is so small, they have nothing else of
>>interest.
>>There is a much larger QFC closer to me. Odd that the tiny one would have
>>this cheese and not the Mill Creek one. Unless they do and I never saw it.
>>I'll look.
>>
>>The QFC in Mill Creek has the clothbound cheddar cheese only. Looks to be
>>a
>>wedge that would be sold with the specialty cheeses. I am unlikely to buy
>>that kind. I expect it would be expensive. But thanks!
>>
>>This is the best cheap cheese that I've had. Don't have it here either.
>>
>>http://heluvagood.com/
>
> If you've seen Cabot on the east coast then you know that it wouldn't
> be featured among the quality cheese but rather with the regular
> branded stuff.

I've seen it with the branded stuff on the East Coast. It's not with the
regular cheese here and we only have the one cloth wrapped.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > Is it ok if I mention my husband in the military? We had to move
>> > around a lot to the various places he served .. and I had to wait
>> > for him terrified, when he was away fighting in wars?
>>
>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different ways.
>> Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's hard to
>> find an high paying job when you have a military spouse. The employer
>> knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us had to make do
>> with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>
>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a challenge.
>> Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some things were the
>> same of course but many were not. Different brands, not much in the
>> way of Mexican food.
>
> Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than a
> disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.

Uh... I have no clue what you even said. GS? Girl Scout?

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> "cshenk" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > "Ophelia" wrote in message ...
>> >
>> > wrote in message ...
>> >
>> > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT), Ding - Dong Daddy
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sheldon wrote:
>> > >
>> >> > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:50:32 -0500, Sqwertz
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 00:52:18 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >>>>> No BJs or Cabots here.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Fred Meyer and QFC both carry Cabot cheese. Gee, imagine that
>> - >> > > another lie.
>> >> > >
>> >>>>> I think Costco cheese is usually around 5 pound
>> >>>>> blocks or bigger. Let me check. Yep. Blocks of cheddar are 5
>> >pounds >> but you >>>> can get 40 pounds.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Costco (such as the one in Woodnville) Kirkland brand cheddar
>> >> > > cheese (and Monterey Jack, and Colby Jack) come in 32 ounce
>> >> > > packages. Only the American cheese is in 5lb blocks (of
>> >> > > slices). The Business Costco's may carry larger blocks, but
>> >> > > why would you shop at a business Costco if you're always
>> >> > > bitching about large sizes and limited selection when you have
>> >> > > a regular Costco even closer to you?
>> >> >
>> >> > Unless one is catering a party why would they buy so many pounds
>> >> > of cheese.... a two pound block of cheese would become moldy
>> >> > before any normal human could eat it all. I buy cheese no more
>> >> > than 1/2 pound at a time and no more than two kinds at a time and
>> >> > then the two of us barely finish it and sometimes the last begins
>> >> > to mold so the critters get some. Cheese is not something I
>> >> > stock up on, since it's sold daily I only buy what we can consume
>> >> > within a week or less.
>> >> >
>> >> > My wife will be coming home today, her son is driving her as
>> she's >> > still not capable of driving the three hour trip. They
>> decided >> > on my 12 ounce burgers for dinner tonight so they are
>> defrosting >> > now. They will be bringing the hard rolls among
>> other items we >> > can't buy here. Since her son likes cheese
>> burgers yesterday I >> > bought a half pound of sliced Land O' Lakes
>> white American >> > yesterday (he prefers white, doesn't believe the
>> yellow is >> > anneto). The half pound is more than enough, maybe
>> cheese >> > omelets the next day.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway my wife is already able to drive but still only short
>> >> > distances, maybe just a half hour before stiffness sets in from
>> >> > being in one position so long. Her doctor said that stiffness
>> >> > will go away after three months as everything inside heals.
>> >> > Outside she only has very small scars and those will also fade in
>> >> > time. She loves her new knees, she says her knees feel like they
>> >> > did at sixteen. She told everyone she wasn't coming home with a
>> >> > walker and she's not.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >> One thing I notice about you and your wife - along with some others
>> >> here, and in real life - is that you possess a very positive (and
>> >> realistic) mental attitude about things, along with the trait of
>> >> resilience.
>> > >
>> >> Although age - wise I am a "senior", I HATE in general being around
>> >> old people, the majority are constantly whining, complaining,
>> >> kvetching. A few years back I ate senior lunch, it was provided
>> >> daily at the senior center attached to my workplace. Despite it
>> >> being a tasty and nutritious lunch (provided FREE by the city's
>> >> 'Golden Diner" program), staffed by splendid caring volunteers, I
>> >> was embarrassed by the behavior of the majority of attendees, I'd
>> >> cringe at their pettiness and mean - spirited antics, particularly
>> >> towards the staff providing the vittles, and in a very pleasant
>> >> atmosphere to boot. I often thought, "If I ever act like that,
>> >> please shoot me..."
>> > >
>> >> I've worked with job - seekers of many types, and I will tell you
>> >> that working with seniors is the absolute worst, 98% are negative,
>> >> so they are doomed before they get in the race. I prefer working
>> >> with ex - cons, homeless, low - literacy populations, young single
>> >> parents...ANYTHING except seniors! Those nasty 'n negative
>> >> attitudes are nausea - inducing to be around...
>> > >
>> >> Anyways, 'scuze the rant...I'm glad your wife is doing well, and
>> >> that is because not only is she in good physical shape, but she has
>> >> that Positive Mental Attitude thing going for her, that is why she
>> >> is decades "younger" than her actual on - the - clock age. Enjoy
>> >> the homecoming...!!!
>> >
>> > A lot of seniors were spoiled brats as youngsters and became even
>> > more spoiled as they age. I meet a lot of people of all ages who
>> > have never suffered any set backs in life and always had a network
>> > of family to pull them out of their self-created quicksand without
>> > ever so much as a 'thank you'. The worst whiners by far and the
>> > least appreciative of what they have, and the laziest are those who
>> > never served in the military. And the very worst are those who
>> > constantly take credit for a family member who served in the
>> > military as if it was them who served... no one can ever know about
>> > military life without ever being in the military themselves. I
>> > have no respect for those who are constantly refering to a family
>> > member having served... and today more than ever teh family
>> > members of those having seved are being rewarded with all kinds of
>> > undeserved recognition and even medals... I RESENT THAT FRIGGIN'
>> > FOLD STAR FAMILY BULLSHIT... IT'S STEALING RECOGNITION FOR
>> > SOMETHING ONE DIDN'T DO. Lots' of people lost someone to war, they
>> > didn't get attaboys.
>> >
>> > ==
>> >
>> > Is it ok if I mention my husband in the military? We had to move
>> > around a lot to the various places he served .. and I had to wait
>> > for him terrified, when he was away fighting in wars?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please note, I never have done what you are complaining about.
>>
>> Don't worry about it Ophelia. Sheldon likes to play big on his Navy
>> tour but it was 1 or maybe 2. He didn't stick with it to retirement.
>>
>>
>> I'm not the only one here is over 20 (honorable retirement USA) though
>> I may be the only one here who went 26 with a husband who did 22 now
>> (smaller group, I thing we had a few before). It was about 15 years
>> ago when the shrapnel stopped cutting me up in bed as it worked out
>> from his legs and back. That's mostly from the beruit truck bombing.
>> He was tossed over a bunker.
>>
>> I respect the spouses well. The only thing I do not respect is the
>> USA gives them top points for a GS job over disabled USA vets. To me
>> that is wrong.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> I don't know anything about your last comment, we don't have that
>> here, but thank you for the rest.
>
> Basically the last part is Julie had a better chance at an 85K job even
> if she was not qualified, than I do at one i am qualified for. Happened
> to me recently. A spouse wh used to check in students got a GS 13 job
> she was not qualified for and they were forced to accept because of
> 'points'. I got call back and asked if I would accept a GS9 job and
> teacher her. Came with an apology over the system. I declined. BIG
> paycut for me to go GS9 and I'd have had to do her job while she
> poloshed her nails or something because she had not enough background
> and i have 23 at that job.

What are you even talking about? I am not qualified to do a job that would
pay that much. The last full time job I had only paid $18,000. That was over
22 years ago.

If GS means government service, then that's what my husband is doing now.
Not sure his level though. I do believe it is a lower level that what he is
qualified for but not sure about that. He got the job based on it being here
and not the level.

I do really dislike it when military and former military people talk as
though anyone can walk in off the street and get a job working for the
military. They can't. I did used to work for CGES. That job didn't even pay
what was minimum wage at the time.

The grass is always greener and all that...

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:46:55 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>Basically the last part is Julie had a better chance at an 85K job even
>>if she was not qualified, than I do at one i am qualified for. Happened
>>to me recently. A spouse wh used to check in students got a GS 13 job
>>she was not qualified for and they were forced to accept because of
>>'points'. I got call back and asked if I would accept a GS9 job and
>>teacher her. Came with an apology over the system. I declined. BIG
>>paycut for me to go GS9 and I'd have had to do her job while she
>>poloshed her nails or something because she had not enough background
>>and i have 23 at that job.
>
> I'd have hired you. Imagine an employee who can never be wrong!

Bruce! I think I need you!

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 00:01:33 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:46:55 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>>Basically the last part is Julie had a better chance at an 85K job even
>>>if she was not qualified, than I do at one i am qualified for. Happened
>>>to me recently. A spouse wh used to check in students got a GS 13 job
>>>she was not qualified for and they were forced to accept because of
>>>'points'. I got call back and asked if I would accept a GS9 job and
>>>teacher her. Came with an apology over the system. I declined. BIG
>>>paycut for me to go GS9 and I'd have had to do her job while she
>>>poloshed her nails or something because she had not enough background
>>>and i have 23 at that job.
>>
>> I'd have hired you. Imagine an employee who can never be wrong!
>
>Bruce! I think I need you!

lol

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 1:29:33 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:18:51 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > Nahhhh There are small doors that open onto the next department ;p
> >
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> That's rather curious. We don't have such things on this rock and, I
> suspect, neither does the mainland.
>
> https://devrivelazquez.files.wordpre...alice_door.jpg
>
> ==
>
> That isn't me you know ... ;p and we don't need a key to go through ...
> )
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I have seen movies with these secret doors in the UK. Usually, Vincent Price
is in them.

I made some pies yesterday. I've found that shortcrust made in bags is just
wonderful. The flour is placed in the bag along with some shortening. It's
mixed into the flour by rubbing it between the fingers. When the water is
added, the bag allows you to distribute the water without squishing the mix
together. The flour is tossed about keeping the mixture loose. It's then
stuck in the refrigerator to rest up. I squish the mix together with it's
ready to roll. This makes a wonderfully flaky crust. Try it, it's the bomb.
OTOH, I think I'll be making yeast doughs in my daughter's mixer. That's da
bomb too.


==

That sounds good too I've only ever tried that method when making pizza
I will be making a lot of short crust today. I still have apples from my
tree so I intend to make apple pies for the freezer. I already made a huge
apple crumble for the grands at the weekend

As for Vincent Price type doors, I can assure you that those in IKEA are
nothing like that .. ;p


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

In article >,
says...
>
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 1:35:18 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> > I've been to a couple of Ikeas in New Jersey - both of them had those
> > shortcuts. They're not obvious, but they are there.
>
> So Ikea is the only store with these shortcuts? I don't think I would like a store with a layout that's made like a cattle chute.

It's not.

You wouldn't like IKEA anyway, because you're a male heterosexual.

IKEA stores provide respite care for children and males. The children
are corralled out of sight and earshot,in a supervised play area. Any
heterosexual men not required for carrying stuff, can be left in a
special holding area near the restaurant, with big squashy sofas where
they can sit and read the paper, drink the free coffee provided by their
wife's IKEA loyalty card, and stuff their faces with cakes pastries and
stuff they think their wives won't notice the crumbs from.


Janet UK.

On 2017-10-31 9:24 AM, Janet wrote:

>> So Ikea is the only store with these shortcuts? I don't think I would like a store with a layout that's made like a cattle chute.
>
> It's not.
>
> You wouldn't like IKEA anyway, because you're a male heterosexual.

Pshaw. I am a heterosexual male and I like Ikea. I can refuse to ask for
directions and I can look for ways to avoid being directed on a
meandering course through the entire store just to get the one item I
want.

>
> IKEA stores provide respite care for children and males. The children
> are corralled out of sight and earshot,in a supervised play area. Any
> heterosexual men not required for carrying stuff, can be left in a
> special holding area near the restaurant, with big squashy sofas where
> they can sit and read the paper, drink the free coffee provided by their
> wife's IKEA loyalty card, and stuff their faces with cakes pastries and
> stuff they think their wives won't notice the crumbs from.
>

Don't laugh at their food. It is not gourmet quality but it is cheap.

On 2017-10-31, Janet > wrote:

> heterosexual men not required for carrying stuff, can be left in a
> special holding area near the restaurant.......

Sounds like a good idea. The first IKEA in the SFBA had its
resto/store near the exit, so guys hadda hang with their ladies until
the end. Unfortunately, IKEA's resto/store created a bottle-neck for
the exit and you actually hadda wait -in line!-- to exit .....oh,
hadda wait right next to the "return" dept, where all the defective
merchandise was in plain sight --fer further perusal-- of the exiting
clientele. Geez, I hope IKEA was not stupid enough to leave it that
way.

I quit shopping at IKEA as soon as I discoverd most of their furniture
is particle board, jes like everyone else. Last thing I bought at
IKEA was a kitchen overhead-pot-hanger. $39USD. So much cheaper
than the same thing at Sur Hi Tab for 3X-4X the price.

nb

On 10/30/2017 11:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 1:35:18 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
>> I've been to a couple of Ikeas in New Jersey - both of them had those
>> shortcuts. They're not obvious, but they are there.
>
> So Ikea is the only store with these shortcuts? I don't think I would like a store with a layout that's made like a cattle chute.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ZM9DaMv-w
>

Bro, good thing you don't have you eyes on the side of your head!

On 10/31/2017 3:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 1:29:33 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:18:51 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> > NahhhhÂ* There are small doors that open onto the next department ;p
>> >
>> > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>
>> That's rather curious. We don't have such things on this rock and, I
>> suspect, neither does the mainland.
>>
>> https://devrivelazquez.files.wordpre...alice_door.jpg
>>
>> ==
>>
>> That isn't me you know ... ;p and we don't need a key to go through
>> ... )
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> I have seen movies with these secret doors in the UK. Usually, Vincent
> Price is in them.
>
> I made some pies yesterday. I've found that shortcrust made in bags is
> just wonderful. The flour is placed in the bag along with some
> shortening. It's mixed into the flour by rubbing it between the fingers.
> When the water is added, the bag allows you to distribute the water
> without squishing the mix together. The flour is tossed about keeping
> the mixture loose. It's then stuck in the refrigerator to rest up. I
> squish the mix together with it's ready to roll. This makes a
> wonderfully flaky crust. Try it, it's the bomb. OTOH, I think I'll be
> making yeast doughs in my daughter's mixer. That's da bomb too.
>
>
> ==
>
> That sounds good tooÂ* I've only ever tried that method when making
> pizza I will be making a lot of short crust today.Â* I still have
> apples from my tree so I intend to makeÂ* apple pies for the freezer.Â* I
> already made a huge apple crumble for the grands at the weekend
>
> As for Vincent Price type doors, I can assure you that those in IKEA are
> nothing like that .. ;p
>
>

Christopher Lee for sure then....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HeTdkItUQ

On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:35:39 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > Is it ok if I mention my husband in the military? We had to move
>> > around a lot to the various places he served .. and I had to wait
>> > for him terrified, when he was away fighting in wars?
>>
>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different ways.
>> Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's hard to
>> find an high paying job when you have a military spouse. The employer
>> knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us had to make do
>> with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>
>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a challenge.
>> Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some things were the
>> same of course but many were not. Different brands, not much in the
>> way of Mexican food.
>
>Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than a
>disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.

You should read more than the first line.

"Military Spouse Appointing Authority (Executive Order 13473) allows
agencies to appoint a military spouse without competition. Agencies
can choose to use this authority when filling competitive service
positions on a temporary (not to exceed 1 year), term (more than 1
year but not more than 4 years), or permanent basis. The authority
does not entitle spouses to an appointment over any other applicant.

As a military spouse you are eligible under this authority if your
active duty military spouse: 1) receives a Permanent Change of Station
(PCS) move; 2) has a 100% disability rating; or 3) died while on
active duty. Each of these categories has different eligibility
criteria that must be met.


Active Duty Spouse PCS: As a military spouse you must:
1.Be authorized to relocate on the PCS orders;
2.Actually relocate to the new duty station.

Military spouses can only be appointed within the reasonable daily
commuting distance of the new duty station and the appointment must be
made within 2 years of the PCS. You will be asked to provide a copy of
the PCS orders.

Based on 100% Disability: You are eligible if your active duty spouse:
1.Retired under Chapter 61 of title 10, United States Code with a 100%
disability rating from the military department;
2.Retired or was released from active duty and has a disability rating
of 100% from the Department of Veterans' Affairs or the military
department.

There is no geographic limitation under this category. You will be
required to provide documentation of your spouse's disability.

Based on Service Member's Death: If your spouse was killed while on
active duty and you are not remarried, you are eligible. There is no
geographic limitation in this category. You will be required to
provide documentation of the death and your marital status at the time
of death.

Note: Military Spouse Preference is a Department of Defense program
applicable to positions being filled both in the continental United
States and at overseas locations. For more information contact your
local Department of Defense personnel office"