On 10/31/2017 1:18 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message:
>>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>
>> Maybe she meant vents?
>
> I don't know but with all the cars/vans I've ever owned or
> driven, I've never seen vents for heat or a/c anywhere than from
> the dashboard in a vehicle. Either under dash floor vents, front
> dash vents, or the defroster vents on top of the dash by the
> windshield.
>

My Genesis has vents for the rear on the back of the center consul. You
can adjust the air low, air direction, temperature.

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote in message:
> > WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
> > having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
> > you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
> > sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>
> Maybe she meant vents?

I don't know but with all the cars/vans I've ever owned or
driven, I've never seen vents for heat or a/c anywhere than from
the dashboard in a vehicle. Either under dash floor vents, front
dash vents, or the defroster vents on top of the dash by the
windshield.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2017-10-30 1:21 PM, Gary wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >> Our Target-like stores back in The Day were Hill's, Gee Bee's, Zayre,
> >> and GC Murphy's Mart.
> >
> > I remember Zayre back in the days.
> > (Same building is now a PetsMart)
> > It was a good large store and as all of them,
> > they had about 12 checkout lanes but even during
> > the busiest times of year, only one or two lanes
> > were open.
> >
>
> That sounds like the Miracle Mart grocery store that used to be in mall
> a few miles from here. I think their policy was that there had to be at
> least 8 people with carts in line before they would open another
> checkout. I was in there a couple times and waited in line until the ice
> cream started to melt and then I would just walk away and go to another
> store. That place didn't last very long.

Even my regular grocery store has at least 8 lines. I go early am
so only one is open but going later in the day when it's crowded,
I've never seen more than 3 open at a time.

On 2017-10-31 1:18 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message:
>>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>
>> Maybe she meant vents?
>
> I don't know but with all the cars/vans I've ever owned or
> driven, I've never seen vents for heat or a/c anywhere than from
> the dashboard in a vehicle. Either under dash floor vents, front
> dash vents, or the defroster vents on top of the dash by the
> windshield.

You don't have to upgrade too much to get a car with driver and
passenger side temperature controls. Our Buick definitely had heat vents
by the hump in the rear seat to control temperature and air flow. My
Mazda van had front and rear heat and AC.

On 10/30/2017 7:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:00:57 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:20:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/30/2017 1:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Can't speak for Julie, but if I wanted Cabot cheese and it was available
>>>> in a store 6 miles away I'd go get some. She doesn't *really* want
>>>> Cabot cheese.
>>>
>>> You have a strange tendency of theorising and talking in the 3rd
>>> person about people who are present.
>>
>> She does.
>
The third person? I said if *I* wanted [I'd go get some]. First person
singular. Where did either of you learn the rules of grammar?

> <yawn> It doesn't get an pettier than that. Of course Julie latched
> right onto it, her being the Master of Petty Drama.
>
> -sw
>
The critisim deflects from the fact that IF she [second personal
pronoun] really, truly, wanted to buy Cabot cheese she'd be willing to
willing to drive 6 miles to a store identified here to buy it.

Jill

On 2017-10-31 1:19 PM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

>> That sounds like the Miracle Mart grocery store that used to be in mall
>> a few miles from here. I think their policy was that there had to be at
>> least 8 people with carts in line before they would open another
>> checkout. I was in there a couple times and waited in line until the ice
>> cream started to melt and then I would just walk away and go to another
>> store. That place didn't last very long.
>
> Even my regular grocery store has at least 8 lines. I go early am
> so only one is open but going later in the day when it's crowded,
> I've never seen more than 3 open at a time.
Grocery stores around here these days are much better. While the old
Miracle Mart store seemed to have to have 8 people in line before
opening another cash register, the standard now seems to be about 3. One
family run store never seems to have more than 2 people in line, and it
usually has all cash desks open during busy times so there is often a
cashier waiting for a customer.

U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:35:39 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>
> >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > Is it ok if I mention my husband in the military? We had to move
> >> > around a lot to the various places he served .. and I had to
> wait >> > for him terrified, when he was away fighting in wars?
> >>
> >> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different ways.
> >> Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
> >> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
> >> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's hard
> to >> find an high paying job when you have a military spouse. The
> employer >> knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us had to
> make do >> with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
> >>
> >> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
> >> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
> challenge. >> Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some
> things were the >> same of course but many were not. Different
> brands, not much in the >> way of Mexican food.
> >
> > Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than
> > a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>
> You should read more than the first line.
>
> "Military Spouse Appointing Authority (Executive Order 13473) allows
> agencies to appoint a military spouse without competition. Agencies
> can choose to use this authority when filling competitive service
> positions on a temporary (not to exceed 1 year), term (more than 1
> year but not more than 4 years), or permanent basis. The authority
> does not entitle spouses to an appointment over any other applicant.
>
> As a military spouse you are eligible under this authority if your
> active duty military spouse: 1) receives a Permanent Change of Station
> (PCS) move; 2) has a 100% disability rating; or 3) died while on
> active duty. Each of these categories has different eligibility
> criteria that must be met.
>
>
> Active Duty Spouse PCS: As a military spouse you must:
> 1.Be authorized to relocate on the PCS orders;
> 2.Actually relocate to the new duty station.
>
> Military spouses can only be appointed within the reasonable daily
> commuting distance of the new duty station and the appointment must be
> made within 2 years of the PCS. You will be asked to provide a copy of
> the PCS orders.
>
> Based on 100% Disability: You are eligible if your active duty spouse:
> 1.Retired under Chapter 61 of title 10, United States Code with a 100%
> disability rating from the military department;
> 2.Retired or was released from active duty and has a disability rating
> of 100% from the Department of Veterans' Affairs or the military
> department.
>
> There is no geographic limitation under this category. You will be
> required to provide documentation of your spouse's disability.
>
> Based on Service Member's Death: If your spouse was killed while on
> active duty and you are not remarried, you are eligible. There is no
> geographic limitation in this category. You will be required to
> provide documentation of the death and your marital status at the time
> of death.
>
> Note: Military Spouse Preference is a Department of Defense program
> applicable to positions being filled both in the continental United
> States and at overseas locations. For more information contact your
> local Department of Defense personnel office"

Janet US, you only are looking at that program. There are multiple
hiring sets. I know how they work. Julie had that eligibility when her
husband was active duty but may not have known about it. (Julie, GS is
a 'Government Civilian').

I fall under a different set. When they say 'entitle' that just means
you are not guarenteed the job 'just because you are a spouse'.

My husband got a job under it when I was active duty.

--

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:21:01 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/30/2017 7:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:00:57 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:20:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/30/2017 1:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Can't speak for Julie, but if I wanted Cabot cheese and it was available
>>>>> in a store 6 miles away I'd go get some. She doesn't *really* want
>>>>> Cabot cheese.
>>>>
>>>> You have a strange tendency of theorising and talking in the 3rd
>>>> person about people who are present.
>>>
>>> She does.
>>
>The third person? I said if *I* wanted [I'd go get some]. First person
>singular. Where did either of you learn the rules of grammar?

"She doesn't *really* want Cabot cheese." She: third person.

>> <yawn> It doesn't get an pettier than that. Of course Julie latched
>> right onto it, her being the Master of Petty Drama.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>The critisim deflects from the fact that IF she [second personal
>pronoun]

Not second, third. Second would be "you".

>really, truly, wanted to buy Cabot cheese she'd be willing to
>willing to drive 6 miles to a store identified here to buy it.

You're doing it again!

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
Trimmed as too long

> > Basically the last part is Julie had a better chance at an 85K job
> > even if she was not qualified, than I do at one i am qualified for.
> > Happened to me recently. A spouse wh used to check in students got
> > a GS 13 job she was not qualified for and they were forced to
> > accept because of 'points'. I got call back and asked if I would
> > accept a GS9 job and teach her. Came with an apology over the
> > system. I declined. BIG paycut for me to go GS9 and I'd have had
> > to do her job while she poloshed her nails or something because she
> > had not enough background and i have 23 at that job.
>
> What are you even talking about? I am not qualified to do a job that
> would pay that much. The last full time job I had only paid $18,000.
> That was over 22 years ago.

Maybe not an 85K one but there were many you could have had. I am
sorry you didnt know. Now that he's no longer in (yet alive and able
to work), that set no longer applies to you.


> If GS means government service, then that's what my husband is doing
> now. Not sure his level though. I do believe it is a lower level that
> what he is qualified for but not sure about that. He got the job
> based on it being here and not the level.

Thats ok, happens all the time. He's probably doing pretty well.
Pretty equal or maybe a bit better than his active duty pay.

> I do really dislike it when military and former military people talk
> as though anyone can walk in off the street and get a job working for
> the military. They can't. I did used to work for CGES. That job
> didn't even pay what was minimum wage at the time.

Nope, you have to know the system a bit. Sometimes it falls in your
lap, and other times it can be very hard to accomplish. I did land a
GS job just as I got out but it was too low and while they planned to
upscale it, there was no promise that would happen.

> The grass is always greener and all that...

Not really. It simply 'is what it is'.



--

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2017-10-31, Janet > wrote:
>
>> heterosexual men not required for carrying stuff, can be left in a
>> special holding area near the restaurant.......
>
> Sounds like a good idea. The first IKEA in the SFBA had its
> resto/store near the exit, so guys hadda hang with their ladies until
> the end. Unfortunately, IKEA's resto/store created a bottle-neck for
> the exit and you actually hadda wait -in line!-- to exit .....oh,
> hadda wait right next to the "return" dept, where all the defective
> merchandise was in plain sight --fer further perusal-- of the exiting
> clientele. Geez, I hope IKEA was not stupid enough to leave it that
> way.
>
> I quit shopping at IKEA as soon as I discoverd most of their furniture
> is particle board, jes like everyone else. Last thing I bought at
> IKEA was a kitchen overhead-pot-hanger. $39USD. So much cheaper
> than the same thing at Sur Hi Tab for 3X-4X the price.

We were told by the military movers never to buy Ikea furniture if we
planned to move as it wouldn't survive the move.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:35:39 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> > Is it ok if I mention my husband in the military? We had to move
>>> > around a lot to the various places he served .. and I had to wait
>>> > for him terrified, when he was away fighting in wars?
>>>
>>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different ways.
>>> Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's hard to
>>> find an high paying job when you have a military spouse. The employer
>>> knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us had to make do
>>> with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>>
>>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a challenge.
>>> Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some things were the
>>> same of course but many were not. Different brands, not much in the
>>> way of Mexican food.
>>
>>Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than a
>>disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>
> You should read more than the first line.
>
> "Military Spouse Appointing Authority (Executive Order 13473) allows
> agencies to appoint a military spouse without competition. Agencies
> can choose to use this authority when filling competitive service
> positions on a temporary (not to exceed 1 year), term (more than 1
> year but not more than 4 years), or permanent basis. The authority
> does not entitle spouses to an appointment over any other applicant.
>
> As a military spouse you are eligible under this authority if your
> active duty military spouse: 1) receives a Permanent Change of Station
> (PCS) move; 2) has a 100% disability rating; or 3) died while on
> active duty. Each of these categories has different eligibility
> criteria that must be met.
>
>
> Active Duty Spouse PCS: As a military spouse you must:
> 1.Be authorized to relocate on the PCS orders;
> 2.Actually relocate to the new duty station.
>
> Military spouses can only be appointed within the reasonable daily
> commuting distance of the new duty station and the appointment must be
> made within 2 years of the PCS. You will be asked to provide a copy of
> the PCS orders.
>
> Based on 100% Disability: You are eligible if your active duty spouse:
> 1.Retired under Chapter 61 of title 10, United States Code with a 100%
> disability rating from the military department;
> 2.Retired or was released from active duty and has a disability rating
> of 100% from the Department of Veterans' Affairs or the military
> department.
>
> There is no geographic limitation under this category. You will be
> required to provide documentation of your spouse's disability.
>
> Based on Service Member's Death: If your spouse was killed while on
> active duty and you are not remarried, you are eligible. There is no
> geographic limitation in this category. You will be required to
> provide documentation of the death and your marital status at the time
> of death.
>
> Note: Military Spouse Preference is a Department of Defense program
> applicable to positions being filled both in the continental United
> States and at overseas locations. For more information contact your
> local Department of Defense personnel office"

That may well be. I should imagine when we lived on the Massachusetts
Military Reservation there were few government service jobs that paid well.
There were actually few jobs at all as most of the military people who lived
there worked elsewhere. We had a post office, stores, movie theater and the
golf course. Many of these places hired only part time and the pay was less
than minimum wage.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...

> Janet US, you only are looking at that program. There are multiple
> hiring sets. I know how they work. Julie had that eligibility when her
> husband was active duty but may not have known about it. (Julie, GS is
> a 'Government Civilian').

I did not know about it but I don't think there were any such jobs available
when we lived on Cape Cod. I became very ill after I had Angela and I
haven't been able to work since. Not that there would have been very many of
those jobs anywhere else that we lived. There was radar on Staten Island. I
am not qualified to do that.
>
> I fall under a different set. When they say 'entitle' that just means
> you are not guarenteed the job 'just because you are a spouse'.
>
> My husband got a job under it when I was active duty.
>
> --
>

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message:
>> > WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>> > having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>> > you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>> > sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>
>> Maybe she meant vents?
>
> I don't know but with all the cars/vans I've ever owned or
> driven, I've never seen vents for heat or a/c anywhere than from
> the dashboard in a vehicle. Either under dash floor vents, front
> dash vents, or the defroster vents on top of the dash by the
> windshield.

There were controls in the back for the back. Many higher end cars have
such.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/30/2017 7:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:00:57 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:20:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/30/2017 1:34 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Can't speak for Julie, but if I wanted Cabot cheese and it was
>>>>> available
>>>>> in a store 6 miles away I'd go get some. She doesn't *really* want
>>>>> Cabot cheese.
>>>>
>>>> You have a strange tendency of theorising and talking in the 3rd
>>>> person about people who are present.
>>>
>>> She does.
>>
> The third person? I said if *I* wanted [I'd go get some]. First person
> singular. Where did either of you learn the rules of grammar?
>
>> <yawn> It doesn't get an pettier than that. Of course Julie latched
>> right onto it, her being the Master of Petty Drama.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> The critisim deflects from the fact that IF she [second personal pronoun]
> really, truly, wanted to buy Cabot cheese she'd be willing to willing to
> drive 6 miles to a store identified here to buy it.

I wouldn't mind getting the regular Cabot cheese but that is not carried at
this store. Only the cloth wrapped cheddar, whatever that is.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> Trimmed as too long
>
>> > Basically the last part is Julie had a better chance at an 85K job
>> > even if she was not qualified, than I do at one i am qualified for.
>> > Happened to me recently. A spouse wh used to check in students got
>> > a GS 13 job she was not qualified for and they were forced to
>> > accept because of 'points'. I got call back and asked if I would
>> > accept a GS9 job and teach her. Came with an apology over the
>> > system. I declined. BIG paycut for me to go GS9 and I'd have had
>> > to do her job while she poloshed her nails or something because she
>> > had not enough background and i have 23 at that job.
>>
>> What are you even talking about? I am not qualified to do a job that
>> would pay that much. The last full time job I had only paid $18,000.
>> That was over 22 years ago.
>
> Maybe not an 85K one but there were many you could have had. I am
> sorry you didnt know. Now that he's no longer in (yet alive and able
> to work), that set no longer applies to you.
>
No, there were not many. Not near where we lived anyway. There were few to
none.
>
>> If GS means government service, then that's what my husband is doing
>> now. Not sure his level though. I do believe it is a lower level that
>> what he is qualified for but not sure about that. He got the job
>> based on it being here and not the level.
>
> Thats ok, happens all the time. He's probably doing pretty well.
> Pretty equal or maybe a bit better than his active duty pay.
>
>> I do really dislike it when military and former military people talk
>> as though anyone can walk in off the street and get a job working for
>> the military. They can't. I did used to work for CGES. That job
>> didn't even pay what was minimum wage at the time.
>
> Nope, you have to know the system a bit. Sometimes it falls in your
> lap, and other times it can be very hard to accomplish. I did land a
> GS job just as I got out but it was too low and while they planned to
> upscale it, there was no promise that would happen.
>
>> The grass is always greener and all that...
>
> Not really. It simply 'is what it is'.

Nnnnnkay.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 4:34:36 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>
> Bro, good thing you don't have you eyes on the side of your head!

They are on the side of my head. Thank God for my special custom made glasses! You can barely tell!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...3iE6iMAoEuCBcT

On 10/31/2017 9:14 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 4:34:36 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>> Bro, good thing you don't have you eyes on the side of your head!
>
> They are on the side of my head. Thank God for my special custom made glasses! You can barely tell!
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...3iE6iMAoEuCBcT
>

Mark Mothersbaugh beware!

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message:
>> > WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>> > having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>> > you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>> > sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>
>> Maybe she meant vents?
>
> I don't know but with all the cars/vans I've ever owned or
> driven, I've never seen vents for heat or a/c anywhere than from
> the dashboard in a vehicle. Either under dash floor vents, front
> dash vents, or the defroster vents on top of the dash by the
> windshield.

There were controls in the back for the back. Many higher end cars have
such.

==

Yes, our cars have a switch at the back of the central/middle unit where the
gears stick is.

Not sure our cars are higher end They are old Japanese imports)


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 4:34:36 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos
wrote:
>
> Bro, good thing you don't have you eyes on the side of your head!

They are on the side of my head. Thank God for my special custom made
glasses! You can barely tell!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...3iE6iMAoEuCBcT

==

Well! We would certainly see you coming ...

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 10/30/2017 1:22 PM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar. Not near
>>>> me
>>>> though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a few desk
>>>> accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold that day
>>>> and
>>>> we were freezing in the car.
>>>
>>> Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>
>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it in the
>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>
> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>
It doesn't really matter. The fact is she stated she bought cheap
blankets because "it turned cold that day and we were freezing in the
car". There's this nifty little trick called turning on the car and the
heater and letting it warm up. I'm sure they could have locked the car,
gone back into the store and waited a few minutes for the car to warm
up. It's just another incredible tall tale.

Jill

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 14:44:50 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/30/2017 1:22 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar. Not near
>>>>> me
>>>>> though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a few desk
>>>>> accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold that day
>>>>> and
>>>>> we were freezing in the car.
>>>>
>>>> Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>>
>>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it in the
>>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>>
>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>
>It doesn't really matter. The fact is she

There you go again! You just can't help yourself.

On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different ways.
>> Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's hard to
>> find an high paying job when you have a military spouse. The employer
>> knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us had to make do
>> with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>
>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a challenge.
>> Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some things were the
>> same of course but many were not. Different brands, not much in the
>> way of Mexican food.
>
> Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than a
> disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>

Carol, the difference is Julie was not *in* the military. I don't know
if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes to
grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.

My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure relate
to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.

Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the spouse
who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for Mexican food.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different ways.
>> Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's hard to
>> find an high paying job when you have a military spouse. The employer
>> knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us had to make do
>> with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>
>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a challenge.
>> Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some things were the
>> same of course but many were not. Different brands, not much in the
>> way of Mexican food.
>
> Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than a
> disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>

Carol, the difference is Julie was not *in* the military. I don't know
if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes to
grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.

My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure relate
to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.

Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the spouse
who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for Mexican food.

Jill

==

From what I was reading here, spouses were given preferential treatment for
jobs!



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 17:34:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-11-01 2:55 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 14:44:50 -0400, jmcquown >
>
>>>>
>>> It doesn't really matter. The fact is she
>>
>> There you go again! You just can't help yourself.
>>
>
>Apparently you can't either.

I spoke in the second person. Pay attention, please.

On 2017-11-01 2:55 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 14:44:50 -0400, jmcquown >

>>>
>> It doesn't really matter. The fact is she
>
> There you go again! You just can't help yourself.
>

Apparently you can't either.

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> > > It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different
> > > ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
> > > repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
> > > having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's
> > > hard to find an high paying job when you have a military spouse.
> > > The employer knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us
> > > had to make do with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
> > >
> > > Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
> > > city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
> > > challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some
> > > things were the same of course but many were not. Different
> > > brands, not much in the way of Mexican food.
> >
> > Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than
> > a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
> >
>
> Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I don't know
> if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes
> to grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.
>
> My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure
> relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
>
> Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the
> spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for
> Mexican food.
>
> Jill

Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.

--

On 11/1/2017 6:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different
>>>> ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>>>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>>>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's
>>>> hard to find an high paying job when you have a military spouse.
>>>> The employer knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us
>>>> had to make do with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>>>
>>>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>>>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
>>>> challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some
>>>> things were the same of course but many were not. Different
>>>> brands, not much in the way of Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than
>>> a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>>>
>>
>> Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I don't know
>> if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes
>> to grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.
>>
>> My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure
>> relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
>>
>> Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the
>> spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for
>> Mexican food.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.
>
Maybe she didn't want to. From what I recall she worked a lot of years
at K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension (assuming they're
still in business when she hits official retirement age).

Jill

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 04:03:12 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 11/1/2017 6:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different
>>>>> ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>>>>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>>>>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's
>>>>> hard to find an high paying job when you have a military spouse.
>>>>> The employer knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us
>>>>> had to make do with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>>>>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
>>>>> challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some
>>>>> things were the same of course but many were not. Different
>>>>> brands, not much in the way of Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than
>>>> a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I don't know
>>> if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes
>>> to grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.
>>>
>>> My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure
>>> relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
>>>
>>> Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the
>>> spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for
>>> Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
>> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.
>>
>Maybe she didn't want to.

I have an idea! Ask her.

Here's Jill spying on the neighbours:
<http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/photo/old-woman-behind-curtains-royalty-free-image/157522715?esource=SEO_GIS_CDN_Redirect>

On 11/2/2017 4:03 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/1/2017 6:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different
>>>>> ways.Â* Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>>>>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>>>>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's
>>>>> hard to find an high paying job when you have a military spouse.
>>>>> The employer knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us
>>>>> had to make do with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>>>>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
>>>>> challenge.Â* Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some
>>>>> things were the same of course but many were not. Different
>>>>> brands, not much in the way of Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. It is difficult.Â* But you had a GS hire preference higher than
>>>> a disabled Navy retired vet.Â* If you didn't know that, too bad.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military.Â* I don't know
>>> if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes
>>> to grade or disability.Â* She worked at K-Mart.
>>>
>>> My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure
>>> relate to the constantly moving as a child.Â* No fun.
>>>
>>> Can't speak to the different brands thing.Â* I was a kid, not the
>>> spouse who did the shopping.Â* I do know my mother didn't look for
>>> Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military.Â* She lacked
>> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.
>>
> Maybe she didn't want to.Â* From what I recall she worked a lot of years
> at K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension (assuming they're
> still in business when she hits official retirement age).
>
> Jill

They don't have to be. When I turned 65 I was contacted by Metropolitan
Insurance. They had the pension funds from where I worked 1963 to 1970
and they went out of business in 1975. Did not even remember having a
fund back then.

I almost lost it though. When you approach 65 you get mail every day
from every insurance company that offers Medicare supplement, senior
life insurance, etc. I was about to toss the envelope with others,
unopened but I decided to look. What a nice surprise. It was not much,
but I'll take it!

On 11/2/2017 2:03 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military.Â* She lacked
>> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.
>>
> Maybe she didn't want to.Â* From what I recall she worked a lot of years
> at K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension (assuming they're
> still in business when she hits official retirement age).
>
> Jill

Kmart, like Sears, will be Lampert'd into extinction post haste.

On 11/2/2017 2:15 AM, Bruce wrote:
> Here's Jill spying on the neighbours:

Here's you being bush-beaten.


http://www.docsideproduction.fr/en/w...5/Image-42.png

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 11/1/2017 6:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different
> > > > > ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and
> > > > > move repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and
> > > > > again. Spouses having to find a new job. I had to retire from
> > > > > mine. And it's hard to find an high paying job when you have
> > > > > a military spouse. The employer knows that you might leave
> > > > > at any time. Most of us had to make do with minimum wage or
> > > > > worse, part time at best.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a
> > > > > new city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
> > > > > challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here.
> > > > > Some things were the same of course but many were not.
> > > > > Different brands, not much in the way of Mexican food.
> > > >
> > > > Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher
> > > > than a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too
> > > > bad.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I don't
> > > know if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when
> > > it comes to grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.
> > >
> > > My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure
> > > relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
> > >
> > > Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the
> > > spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for
> > > Mexican food.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
> > knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military
> > spouse.
> >
> Maybe she didn't want to. From what I recall she worked a lot of
> years at K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension (assuming
> they're still in business when she hits official retirement age).
>
> Jill

Maybe not, but she had some chances that sadly she didnt know about.

Here's a turn down letter I got:

Notification
Date: 9/5/2017 10:50:47 AM
From: USA Staffing
Subject: Notice of Results and Referral for PROGRAM ANALYST,
ST-10040679-17-MS
Dear Carol xxxxx,

This refers to the application you recently submitted to this office
for the position below:
Position Title: PROGRAM ANALYST
Pay Plan/Series/Grade: GS-0343-13
Hiring Office: 00076 NAVAL EDUCATION AND TRAINING COMMAND
Location: Dam Neck Naval Facility, Virginia Beach, Virginia

Your rating is:
Eligible for the following position or positions:
€¢ GS-0343-13

The following is your referral status for the position or positions to
which you applied:
€¢ You have not been referred to the hiring manager for position
GS-0343-13 in Dam Neck Naval Facility, Virginia Beach, Virginia


Please Note:

We have received your application to be considered for this position.
You received an eligible best rating based on your self-assessed
responses to the assessment questionnaire; however, there were a
sufficient number of best qualified military spouse candidates that are
entitled to Military Spouse Preference. By law, best qualified military
spouses who comply with competitive recruitment procedures are entitled
to initial selection consideration.

If you have any questions regarding this notice, contact DON Employment
Information Center at or 800-378-4559.

Thank you for your interest in Federal employment with theDepartment of
the Navy.

PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL MESSAGE. IT IS AUTOMATICALLY
GENERATED. For additional information, please refer to the job
opportunity announcement for this position.
---------

It turns out none of the spouses had actual qualifications for the job
so now they are on second set and I am being scheduled for an
interview. Note this isnt the same job as the one I turned down to be a
GS9 teaching the person the job. It is however very simular.



--

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/30/2017 1:22 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:33:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They did have a salad bar. See Steve! I remembered a salad bar. Not
>>>>> near
>>>>> me
>>>>> though. Good two hour drive from here. Got a desk for Angela, a few
>>>>> desk
>>>>> accessories, a couple of cheap blankets because it turned cold that
>>>>> day
>>>>> and
>>>>> we were freezing in the car.
>>>>
>>>> Don't your cars in the US have heaters?
>>>
>>> Yes but mine only has heat in the front. Husband's old car had it in the
>>> back. Most cheaper cars don't though.
>>
>> WTH? Please explain this one, Julie. I've never head of a car
>> having a separate heater in the back. This is an odd thing that
>> you have said. Most vehicles have a front heater and are
>> sufficient to heat the entire vehicle.
>>
> It doesn't really matter. The fact is she stated she bought cheap
> blankets because "it turned cold that day and we were freezing in the
> car". There's this nifty little trick called turning on the car and the
> heater and letting it warm up. I'm sure they could have locked the car,
> gone back into the store and waited a few minutes for the car to warm up.
> It's just another incredible tall tale.

Seriously? You do know how foolish it is to leave your car running while
locked. Right? Do that here and you will be likely to have no car. They
smash the window and just take off. I think you have also never been into an
Ikea. The entrances and exits aren't even remotely in the same place. You
can't get in and right back out. It also wasn't my car and I wasn't in
charge of the heat. Apparently the driver was plenty warm but the other two
of us were not.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2017-11-01 2:55 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 14:44:50 -0400, jmcquown >
>
>>>>
>>> It doesn't really matter. The fact is she
>>
>> There you go again! You just can't help yourself.
>>
>
> Apparently you can't either.

And that's okay. I need him!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "jmcquown" wrote in message news >
> On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different ways.
>>> Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's hard to
>>> find an high paying job when you have a military spouse. The employer
>>> knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us had to make do
>>> with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>>
>>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a challenge.
>>> Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some things were the
>>> same of course but many were not. Different brands, not much in the
>>> way of Mexican food.
>>
>> Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than a
>> disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>>
>
> Carol, the difference is Julie was not *in* the military. I don't know
> if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes to
> grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.
>
> My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure relate
> to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
>
> Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the spouse
> who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for Mexican food.
>
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> From what I was reading here, spouses were given preferential treatment
> for jobs!

None of the places I lived had good jobs for spouses.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different
>> > > ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>> > > repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>> > > having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's
>> > > hard to find an high paying job when you have a military spouse.
>> > > The employer knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us
>> > > had to make do with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>> > >
>> > > Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>> > > city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
>> > > challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some
>> > > things were the same of course but many were not. Different
>> > > brands, not much in the way of Mexican food.
>> >
>> > Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than
>> > a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>> >
>>
>> Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I don't know
>> if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes
>> to grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.
>>
>> My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure
>> relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
>>
>> Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the
>> spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for
>> Mexican food.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.

Where were these? The only place I lived after I was married where I worked
was Cape Cod. I became to ill and subsequently disabled after that to work.

This is where I lived:

https://www.militarylife.com/resourc...cg-air-station

Looks like the main site is down right now.

I worked at the golf course. That paid less than minimum wage. So did the
stores and movie theater. They have since added a bowling alley. There
wasn't much else there. Post office, beauty salon, barber shop, dry cleaner.
All civilian jobs. We did have MWR and I believe that was staffed by
volunteers. I wasn't qualified to anything at the medical and I don't think
any civilians worked there.

I also wasn't willing to make the 2 hour (on a good day) commute into
Boston. Not that there were necessarily any GS jobs there. I really don't
know.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 11/1/2017 6:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different
>>>>> ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and move
>>>>> repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and again. Spouses
>>>>> having to find a new job. I had to retire from mine. And it's
>>>>> hard to find an high paying job when you have a military spouse.
>>>>> The employer knows that you might leave at any time. Most of us
>>>>> had to make do with minimum wage or worse, part time at best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a new
>>>>> city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
>>>>> challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here. Some
>>>>> things were the same of course but many were not. Different
>>>>> brands, not much in the way of Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher than
>>>> a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too bad.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I don't know
>>> if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when it comes
>>> to grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.
>>>
>>> My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure
>>> relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
>>>
>>> Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the
>>> spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for
>>> Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
>> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.
>>
> Maybe she didn't want to. From what I recall she worked a lot of years at
> K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension (assuming they're still in
> business when she hits official retirement age).

I'm already collecting my pension. I took it early. The company isn't doing
well. Was advised to get it early just in case. Am getting slightly less
than if I had waited but not enough to matter. My husband makes good money.
I did work. I didn't work for the money. Really aren't too many good jobs on
Cape Cod, at least in the area where I lived. Most of the non-military
people were seniors who were there for the spring, summer and fall. Come
winter they went to Florida. Most jobs were seasonal, part time and minimum
wage.

"Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
news
> On 11/2/2017 2:03 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
>>> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.
>>>
>> Maybe she didn't want to. From what I recall she worked a lot of years at
>> K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension (assuming they're still
>> in business when she hits official retirement age).
>>
>> Jill
>
> Kmart, like Sears, will be Lampert'd into extinction post haste.

Indeed it will. My pension used to come from Sears Holdings. My friend told
me that she got something last week stating that it is now with some other
company. I didn't get that yet but perhaps because I am paperless and she's
not.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
news
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 11/1/2017 6:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> > > On 10/30/2017 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It is difficult for then spouse and children but in different
>> > > > > ways. Yes, there is the worry but also having to uproot and
>> > > > > move repeatedly. Children starting new schools again and
>> > > > > again. Spouses having to find a new job. I had to retire from
>> > > > > mine. And it's hard to find an high paying job when you have
>> > > > > a military spouse. The employer knows that you might leave
>> > > > > at any time. Most of us had to make do with minimum wage or
>> > > > > worse, part time at best.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Then having to make new friends, finding your way around in a
>> > > > > new city, finding medical, stores, etc. Even foods could be a
>> > > > > challenge. Food on Cape Cod is vastly different than here.
>> > > > > Some things were the same of course but many were not.
>> > > > > Different brands, not much in the way of Mexican food.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes. It is difficult. But you had a GS hire preference higher
>> > > > than a disabled Navy retired vet. If you didn't know that, too
>> > > > bad.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Carol, the difference is Julie was not in the military. I don't
>> > > know if she knows or cares about military hiring preferences when
>> > > it comes to grade or disability. She worked at K-Mart.
>> > >
>> > > My mother, the military spouse, never had to work but I can sure
>> > > relate to the constantly moving as a child. No fun.
>> > >
>> > > Can't speak to the different brands thing. I was a kid, not the
>> > > spouse who did the shopping. I do know my mother didn't look for
>> > > Mexican food.
>> > >
>> > > Jill
>> >
>> > Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
>> > knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military
>> > spouse.
>> >
>> Maybe she didn't want to. From what I recall she worked a lot of
>> years at K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension (assuming
>> they're still in business when she hits official retirement age).
>>
>> Jill
>
> Maybe not, but she had some chances that sadly she didnt know about.

No Carol, I didn't. We did have a bulletin board with all job listings on
it. There were rarely any listings.
>
> Here's a turn down letter I got:
>
> Notification
> Date: 9/5/2017 10:50:47 AM
> From: USA Staffing
> Subject: Notice of Results and Referral for PROGRAM ANALYST,
> ST-10040679-17-MS
> Dear Carol xxxxx,
>
> This refers to the application you recently submitted to this office
> for the position below:
> Position Title: PROGRAM ANALYST
> Pay Plan/Series/Grade: GS-0343-13
> Hiring Office: 00076 NAVAL EDUCATION AND TRAINING COMMAND
> Location: Dam Neck Naval Facility, Virginia Beach, Virginia
>
> Your rating is:
> Eligible for the following position or positions:
> €¢ GS-0343-13
>
> The following is your referral status for the position or positions to
> which you applied:
> €¢ You have not been referred to the hiring manager for position
> GS-0343-13 in Dam Neck Naval Facility, Virginia Beach, Virginia
>
>
> Please Note:
>
> We have received your application to be considered for this position.
> You received an eligible best rating based on your self-assessed
> responses to the assessment questionnaire; however, there were a
> sufficient number of best qualified military spouse candidates that are
> entitled to Military Spouse Preference. By law, best qualified military
> spouses who comply with competitive recruitment procedures are entitled
> to initial selection consideration.
>
> If you have any questions regarding this notice, contact DON Employment
> Information Center at or 800-378-4559.
>
> Thank you for your interest in Federal employment with theDepartment of
> the Navy.
>
> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL MESSAGE. IT IS AUTOMATICALLY
> GENERATED. For additional information, please refer to the job
> opportunity announcement for this position.
> ---------
>
> It turns out none of the spouses had actual qualifications for the job
> so now they are on second set and I am being scheduled for an
> interview. Note this isnt the same job as the one I turned down to be a
> GS9 teaching the person the job. It is however very simular.

Not even sure what the gibberish even means. I think I need Bruce to explain
it.

On 11/3/2017 1:07 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 11/2/2017 2:03 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jill, we all 'get it' that Julie was never military. She lacked
>>>> knowlege that she might have better oppotunties as a military spouse.
>>>>
>>> Maybe she didn't want to. From what I recall she worked a lot of
>>> years at K-Mart, long enough to be entitled to a pension (assuming
>>> they're still in business when she hits official retirement age).
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Kmart, like Sears, will be Lampert'd into extinction post haste.
>
> Indeed it will. My pension used to come from Sears Holdings. My friend
> told me that she got something last week stating that it is now with
> some other company. I didn't get that yet but perhaps because I am
> paperless and she's not.

Very sorry to hear that, do hope it works out for you both.

Lampert is a fool who doesn't even visit his stores!