On Saturday, April 22, 2000 at 9:00:00 PM UTC-10, Anne P. Mitchell Young, Esq. wrote:
> Has anybody here worked with Baker's Joy spray? It's that spray, like Pam,
> only it both greases and flours your pans, all at once.
>
> I had always eschewed it (not sure why, it somehow just seemed kind
> of...silly). But Rose Levy Beranbaum recommends it in her _The Cake Bible_,
> so I picked some up and tried it tonight.
>
> The directions say to apply a light even coat (spraying 6" from the pan). But
> I am finding that the spray is so strong coming out of the can - not, for
> example, at all like a mist, but more...well...like water out of a spray
> nozzle on a hose (not a stream, but, for those familiar with shotguns, like
> the choke is notched down so that the pattern is tight, rather than
> widespread, if you'll forgive the analogy). Anyways, this makes applying a
> "light, even coat" rather difficult.
>
> Did I just get a bum can, or is that how they all are? Is there some trick to
> being able to use a light hand and applying a "light, even coat"?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Anne
> William - 4/11/98
> Jessica - 8/28/78
>
> Resources on intuitive parenting, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, and mo http://www.intuitiveparenting.org
> I am: Mom, Attorney, Professor, Advocate for Fathers, Lactation Advisor (in training)
> http://www.parentinglaw.com

I've been using spray cans since I was a wee lad. I have never gotten a Baker's Joy spray can to work. The product mutters and sputters out of the nozzle making it impossible to use it as you fantasize it. I, like you, really wanted it to work. I had dreams of spraying on a beautiful coating of flour and oil and fantastically beautiful cakes but it all came crashing down at the first press of that nozzle. It ought to be called "Baker's Scam." There is no Joy in Bakersville.

On 11/1/2017 12:22 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, April 22, 2000 at 9:00:00 PM UTC-10, Anne P. Mitchell Young, Esq. wrote:
>> Has anybody here worked with Baker's Joy spray? It's that spray, like Pam,
>> only it both greases and flours your pans, all at once.
>>
>> I had always eschewed it (not sure why, it somehow just seemed kind
>> of...silly). But Rose Levy Beranbaum recommends it in her _The Cake Bible_,
>> so I picked some up and tried it tonight.
>>
>> The directions say to apply a light even coat (spraying 6" from the pan). But
>> I am finding that the spray is so strong coming out of the can - not, for
>> example, at all like a mist, but more...well...like water out of a spray
>> nozzle on a hose (not a stream, but, for those familiar with shotguns, like
>> the choke is notched down so that the pattern is tight, rather than
>> widespread, if you'll forgive the analogy). Anyways, this makes applying a
>> "light, even coat" rather difficult.
>>
>> Did I just get a bum can, or is that how they all are? Is there some trick to
>> being able to use a light hand and applying a "light, even coat"?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Anne
>> William - 4/11/98
>> Jessica - 8/28/78
>>
>> Resources on intuitive parenting, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, and mo http://www.intuitiveparenting.org
>> I am: Mom, Attorney, Professor, Advocate for Fathers, Lactation Advisor (in training)
>> http://www.parentinglaw.com
>
> I've been using spray cans since I was a wee lad. I have never gotten a Baker's Joy spray can to work. The product mutters and sputters out of the nozzle making it impossible to use it as you fantasize it. I, like you, really wanted it to work. I had dreams of spraying on a beautiful coating of flour and oil and fantastically beautiful cakes but it all came crashing down at the first press of that nozzle. It ought to be called "Baker's Scam." There is no Joy in Bakersville.
>


One of these days someone will design a home spray oil bottle that
actually works too, or not...

Meantime we get to hate the aerosol can crap.

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 23:22:38 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Saturday, April 22, 2000 at 9:00:00 PM UTC-10, Anne P. Mitchell Young, Esq. wrote:
>> Has anybody here worked with Baker's Joy spray? It's that spray, like Pam,
>> only it both greases and flours your pans, all at once.
>>
>> I had always eschewed it (not sure why, it somehow just seemed kind
>> of...silly). But Rose Levy Beranbaum recommends it in her _The Cake Bible_,
>> so I picked some up and tried it tonight.
>>
>> The directions say to apply a light even coat (spraying 6" from the pan). But
>> I am finding that the spray is so strong coming out of the can - not, for
>> example, at all like a mist, but more...well...like water out of a spray
>> nozzle on a hose (not a stream, but, for those familiar with shotguns, like
>> the choke is notched down so that the pattern is tight, rather than
>> widespread, if you'll forgive the analogy). Anyways, this makes applying a
>> "light, even coat" rather difficult.
>>
>> Did I just get a bum can, or is that how they all are? Is there some trick to
>> being able to use a light hand and applying a "light, even coat"?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Anne
>> William - 4/11/98
>> Jessica - 8/28/78
>>
>> Resources on intuitive parenting, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, and mo http://www.intuitiveparenting.org
>> I am: Mom, Attorney, Professor, Advocate for Fathers, Lactation Advisor (in training)
>> http://www.parentinglaw.com
>
>I've been using spray cans since I was a wee lad. I have never gotten a Baker's Joy spray can to work. The product mutters and sputters out of the nozzle making it impossible to use it as you fantasize it. I, like you, really wanted it to work. I had dreams of spraying on a beautiful coating of flour and oil and fantastically beautiful cakes but it all came crashing down at the first press of that nozzle. It ought to be called "Baker's Scam." There is no Joy in Bakersville.

It's the only kind of spray that I use and I have never had one give
me trouble. Shake it first, make sure the nozzle is pointing to the
red dot and spray.
Janet US

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:31:55 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>
>
> One of these days someone will design a home spray oil bottle that
> actually works too, or not...
>
> Meantime we get to hate the aerosol can crap.

That's a good point. Those bottles you fill and pump up don't work either. It might be that I'm using the wrong oil. I guess I'm supposed to use the lightest viscosity olive oil. What the heck, I don't even like olive oil.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:51:16 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> It's the only kind of spray that I use and I have never had one give
> me trouble. Shake it first, make sure the nozzle is pointing to the
> red dot and spray.
> Janet US

You're talking about the spray that includes flour? That's interesting. The fantasy of spraying on flour and oil at the same time is strong in me. I really want it to work. I'm willing to try it again after failing several time. I'm depending on your say-so JUS.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 5:59:55 AM UTC-10, Boron wrote:
>
>
> Besides, they may have changed things in content or delivery in the
> past 17+ years, since the original post.
>

I can't see how that's relevant. 17 years got nothing to do with it. I've been trying to get those cans to work over the last 10 years. They never do.

On 11/1/2017 11:51 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:31:55 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>>
>> One of these days someone will design a home spray oil bottle that
>> actually works too, or not...
>>
>> Meantime we get to hate the aerosol can crap.
>
> That's a good point. Those bottles you fill and pump up don't work either. It might be that I'm using the wrong oil. I guess I'm supposed to use the lightest viscosity olive oil. What the heck, I don't even like olive oil.
>


I tried a french made one using canola, olive oil, coconut - made no
difference.

And it was an ATK recommended product no less!

Grrr...

On 11/1/2017 11:57 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:51:16 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> It's the only kind of spray that I use and I have never had one give
>> me trouble. Shake it first, make sure the nozzle is pointing to the
>> red dot and spray.
>> Janet US
>
> You're talking about the spray that includes flour? That's interesting. The fantasy of spraying on flour and oil at the same time is strong in me. I really want it to work. I'm willing to try it again after failing several time. I'm depending on your say-so JUS.
>

Well...

You might look at:

http://www.pamcookingspray.com/products/baking

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 8:37:10 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>
> Well...
>
> You might look at:
>
> http://www.pamcookingspray.com/products/baking

That's the best idea I've heard all day.

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:51:16 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> It's the only kind of spray that I use and I have never had one give
>> me trouble. Shake it first, make sure the nozzle is pointing to the
>> red dot and spray.
>> Janet US
>
>You're talking about the spray that includes flour? That's interesting. The fantasy of spraying on flour and oil at the same time is strong in me. I really want it to work. I'm willing to try it again after failing several time. I'm depending on your say-so JUS.

yes, that is the product, includes flour but you don't see the flour.
Just spray lightly and you're good to go.
Janet US

On 2017-11-01 11:51 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:31:55 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>>
>> One of these days someone will design a home spray oil bottle that
>> actually works too, or not...
>>
>> Meantime we get to hate the aerosol can crap.
>
> That's a good point. Those bottles you fill and pump up don't work either. It might be that I'm using the wrong oil. I guess I'm supposed to use the lightest viscosity olive oil. What the heck, I don't even like olive oil.
>
I've never been able to get one of those to work either!

On 11/1/2017 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 8:37:10 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>
>> Well...
>>
>> You might look at:
>>
>> http://www.pamcookingspray.com/products/baking
>
> That's the best idea I've heard all day.
>

Until it fails like the rest of em...

;-(

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 9:43:49 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> I've never been able to get one of those to work either!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyskI13KOs

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 9:44:44 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:

>
> Until it fails like the rest of em...
>
> ;-(

We shall find out. I went to the store to pick up a can of PAM Baking Spray.. Oddly enough, a woman was there who grabbed a can before I did. I asked her about it and she was totally gung ho. This is a good sign. The spray was a little tough to reach because that was the only can in the row that was being purchased and I had to reach between the other cans to the back. It is obvious that God had plans for me concerning PAM spray oil and flour. This is the kind of stuff that makes America great - again!

On 11/1/2017 3:27 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 9:43:49 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>> I've never been able to get one of those to work either!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyskI13KOs
>
>
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiqwF_Y9S5Q

On 11/1/2017 3:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 9:44:44 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>
>>
>> Until it fails like the rest of em...
>>
>> ;-(
>
> We shall find out. I went to the store to pick up a can of PAM Baking Spray. Oddly enough, a woman was there who grabbed a can before I did. I asked her about it and she was totally gung ho. This is a good sign. The spray was a little tough to reach because that was the only can in the row that was being purchased and I had to reach between the other cans to the back. It is obvious that God had plans for me concerning PAM spray oil and flour. This is the kind of stuff that makes America great - again!
>


When the Lord wants you to bake, then bake you MUST!

;-)

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 5:59:55 AM UTC-10, Boron wrote:
>>
>>
>> Besides, they may have changed things in content or delivery in the
>> past 17+ years, since the original post.
>>
>
>I can't see how that's relevant. 17 years got nothing to do with it. I've been trying to get those cans to work over the last 10 years. They never do.

You might want to look up the date of the original post and besides,
it has everything to do with it. YOU may not notice it, though.

I assure you there have been some process, container and product
changes over the 25 years or so it has been made. It has changed
ownership quite a bit over the years, too..Alberto-Cilver, Unilever,
B&G Foods among them.

I have been involved with market research, including CPGs for decades.
Lotta research money goes into these sorts of changes - major or
minor.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 12:44:35 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> You might want to look up the date of the original post and besides,
> it has everything to do with it. YOU may not notice it, though.
>
> I assure you there have been some process, container and product
> changes over the 25 years or so it has been made. It has changed
> ownership quite a bit over the years, too..Alberto-Cilver, Unilever,
> B&G Foods among them.
>
> I have been involved with market research, including CPGs for decades.
> Lotta research money goes into these sorts of changes - major or
> minor.

Your expertise in CPGs and market research notwithstanding, I don't need to look up the date on the post because it's clearly displayed right on my screen. I get to see the entire thread going back to 4/22/2000. My guess is your setup won't give you zip except for posts made in the last few days. Beats the heck out of me why yoose guys put up with those desktop client programs.

I said the changes made to the product in the last 17 years wasn't relevant because I've been trying to get this product to work for the last 10 years.. The last time was probably a couple of years ago. This was a new can, not a 17 year old can. It didn't work. That's about as simply as I can say it. If you're still confused about it, you're on your own.

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 19:54:37 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 12:44:35 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> You might want to look up the date of the original post and besides,
>> it has everything to do with it. YOU may not notice it, though.
>>
>> I assure you there have been some process, container and product
>> changes over the 25 years or so it has been made. It has changed
>> ownership quite a bit over the years, too..Alberto-Cilver, Unilever,
>> B&G Foods among them.
>>
>> I have been involved with market research, including CPGs for decades.
>> Lotta research money goes into these sorts of changes - major or
>> minor.
>
>Your expertise in CPGs and market research notwithstanding, I don't need to look up the date on the post because it's clearly displayed right on my screen. I get to see the entire thread going back to 4/22/2000.

And why do you think I cannot?

> My guess is your setup won't give you zip except for posts made in the last few days. Beats the heck out of me why yoose guys put up with those desktop client programs.

If you are so smart, you would know what set up I use and the
retention of my news server as well as any personal capabilities I
have to dig into past Usenet postings.

Hellfire, silly little boy, I, myself, have posts to this group going
back at least 18 years. I can tell you background about the original
poster up above in the thread, too because I remember her. BFD.

So if you are trying to intimidate me or dismiss what I say based on
what you perceive as a lack of expertise either with topic or with
Usenet, I suggest you go make yourself a pineapple and spam sandwich
and go chill.

>I said the changes made to the product in the last 17 years wasn't relevant because I've been trying to get this product to work for the last 10 years. The last time was probably a couple of years ago. This was a new can, not a 17 year old can. It didn't work. That's about as simply as I can say it. If you're still confused about it, you're on your own.

And you seem to have difficulty reading for comprehension, too. No one
talked about a 17 yr old container of the product. But hey, if you
cannot figure out how to use a can of baking spray, you've bigger
problems than I can help you with.

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 1:35:07 AM UTC-10, Boron wrote:
>
>
> If you are so smart, you would know what set up I use and the
> retention of my news server as well as any personal capabilities I
> have to dig into past Usenet postings.
>
> Hellfire, silly little boy, I, myself, have posts to this group going
> back at least 18 years. I can tell you background about the original
> poster up above in the thread, too because I remember her. BFD.
>
> So if you are trying to intimidate me or dismiss what I say based on
> what you perceive as a lack of expertise either with topic or with
> Usenet, I suggest you go make yourself a pineapple and spam sandwich
> and go chill.
>
>
> And you seem to have difficulty reading for comprehension, too. No one
> talked about a 17 yr old container of the product. But hey, if you
> cannot figure out how to use a can of baking spray, you've bigger
> problems than I can help you with.

I have no idea what all this has to do with my ability to see the posting dates of the messages. Your expertise in marketing and CPGs have mostly taught you obfuscation as being a substitute for relevancy.

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:43:48 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-11-01 11:51 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:31:55 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> One of these days someone will design a home spray oil bottle that
>>> actually works too, or not...
>>>
>>> Meantime we get to hate the aerosol can crap.
>>
>> That's a good point. Those bottles you fill and pump up don't work either. It might be that I'm using the wrong oil. I guess I'm supposed to use the lightest viscosity olive oil. What the heck, I don't even like olive oil.
>>
>I've never been able to get one of those to work either!

Oil residue gets tacky/sticky. Those Misto dispensers are notorious
for it and the manufacturer generally recommends emptying and
cleaning with vinegar, then soap and water.

One can avoid such maintenance a bit by always wiping off the spray
nozzle opening with a hot-water dampened paper towel. Mistos are
pricey, though.

I have never had the problem with purchased Pam containers, though
off-brand versions of the spray can be troublesome. It is a product I
will not buy branded.

On 2017-11-02 1:45 PM, Boron wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:43:48 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-11-01 11:51 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:31:55 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of these days someone will design a home spray oil bottle that
>>>> actually works too, or not...
>>>>
>>>> Meantime we get to hate the aerosol can crap.
>>>
>>> That's a good point. Those bottles you fill and pump up don't work either. It might be that I'm using the wrong oil. I guess I'm supposed to use the lightest viscosity olive oil. What the heck, I don't even like olive oil.
>>>
>> I've never been able to get one of those to work either!
>
> Oil residue gets tacky/sticky. Those Misto dispensers are notorious
> for it and the manufacturer generally recommends emptying and
> cleaning with vinegar, then soap and water.
>
The damn thing wouldn't spray oil properly from the word go. Sprays
water OK but I have a squirt bottle for that.

> I have never had the problem with purchased Pam containers, though
> off-brand versions of the spray can be troublesome. It is a product I
> will not buy branded.
>
I find those Pam cans don't last very long. I bought a can of a canola
based spray from a wholesale outlet aimed at professionals and I have
been using it for about 2 years. There's still some oil left which is
just as well because they don't stock it any more.

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:01:08 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Thu 02 Nov 2017 12:45:47p, Boron told us...
>
>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:43:48 -0600, graham >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2017-11-01 11:51 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:31:55 AM UTC-10, Casa de los
>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One of these days someone will design a home spray oil bottle
>>>>> that actually works too, or not...
>>>>>
>>>>> Meantime we get to hate the aerosol can crap.
>>>>
>>>> That's a good point. Those bottles you fill and pump up don't
>>>> work either. It might be that I'm using the wrong oil. I guess
>>>> I'm supposed to use the lightest viscosity olive oil. What the
>>>> heck, I don't even like olive oil.
>>>>
>>>I've never been able to get one of those to work either!
>>
>> Oil residue gets tacky/sticky. Those Misto dispensers are
>> notorious for it and the manufacturer generally recommends
>> emptying and cleaning with vinegar, then soap and water.
>>
>> One can avoid such maintenance a bit by always wiping off the
>> spray nozzle opening with a hot-water dampened paper towel.
>> Mistos are pricey, though.
>>
>> I have never had the problem with purchased Pam containers, though
>> off-brand versions of the spray can be troublesome. It is a
>> product I will not buy branded.
>>
>
>I nver bought anything but PAM until I tried the COSTC spray. No
>problem with that in any respect.

I'll try the Costco stuff next. Thanks, you guys
Janet US

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:12:16 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-11-02 1:45 PM, Boron wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:43:48 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-11-01 11:51 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:31:55 AM UTC-10, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One of these days someone will design a home spray oil bottle that
>>>>> actually works too, or not...
>>>>>
>>>>> Meantime we get to hate the aerosol can crap.
>>>>
>>>> That's a good point. Those bottles you fill and pump up don't work either. It might be that I'm using the wrong oil. I guess I'm supposed to use the lightest viscosity olive oil. What the heck, I don't even like olive oil.
>>>>
>>> I've never been able to get one of those to work either!
>>
>> Oil residue gets tacky/sticky. Those Misto dispensers are notorious
>> for it and the manufacturer generally recommends emptying and
>> cleaning with vinegar, then soap and water.
>>
>The damn thing wouldn't spray oil properly from the word go. Sprays
>water OK but I have a squirt bottle for that.
>
>> I have never had the problem with purchased Pam containers, though
>> off-brand versions of the spray can be troublesome. It is a product I
>> will not buy branded.
>>
>I find those Pam cans don't last very long. I bought a can of a canola
>based spray from a wholesale outlet aimed at professionals and I have
>been using it for about 2 years. There's still some oil left which is
>just as well because they don't stock it any more.

sprays bum me out whatever the product. How about the allergy nose
sprays that don't work when they are still half full?
Janet US

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 23:31:46 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 15:28:54 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> I'll try the Costco stuff next. Thanks, you guys
>
>The Costco stuff is just oil, no flour. It's the only spray I buy.
>Costs less than 1/2 the price of Pam in the grocery store. I mostly
>use it to coat [frozen] potatoes before baking.
>
>-sw

I thought someone up thread said it had flour. I do want flour.
Janet US

On 11/2/2017 10:31 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I mostly
> use it to coat [frozen] potatoes before baking.
>
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