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On 2017-11-03 10:17 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 09:41:40 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/2/2017 10:24 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 8:37:53 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/2/2017 3:47 PM,
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just plain vinegar and water is good for cleaning windows and mirrors.
>>>>>>
>>>>> My favorite is a 50/50 mixture of window cleaner and non-sudsy ammonia.
>>>>> The ammonia really cuts through the dirt and grease.
>>>>>>
>>>> Uh... you use window cleaner *and* ammonia?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes. The regular window cleaner is not really strong enough to thoroughly
>>> clean windows and mirrors. But the ammonia is awfully strong smelling so
>>> I do it half and half. At that, the stuff will still stop a charging rhinoceros.
>>>
>>>

>> Okay. Me, I'd probably just dilute ammonia in water rather than add it
>> to store-bought window cleaner. You're right about the stench!
>>
>> Jill

>
> We're in the process of cleaning the outside/inside of our big floor
> to ceiling wall of windows. The easiest thing to clean with (I've
> tried them all) is really warm water with a good glug of ammonia. Even
> when we had a dog the doggie nose schmutz cleaned right up.


I use a pail of warm water with dish detergent and vinegar, and I wipe
it on with a sponge or rag, then a squeegee and a micorfibre clothe.


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On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 23:30:53 -0400, Dave Smith
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>On 2017-11-02 11:13 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another $30,000.

>>
>> There's no need to do anything to the cabinets when swapping a dual
>> sink for a single. When I moved here I got rid of their double sink
>> and installed a single extra deep sink and only needed to change the
>> faucet deck... no cabinetry work.

>
>It depends on the size of the sink.If you are replacing a sink with one
>the same size you may not need anything changed. If you are replacing
>it with a larger one you will need to cut the counter to widen the
>whole. If you are installing a smaller sink you are likely going to have
>to replace the counter top.


Naturally if one changes to a larger sink that's a different scenerio,
however changing from a double to a single doesn't mean larger as the
opening sizes are standard. I never liked double sinks as the
individual sink areas are too small. In fact when I changed the
double to a single I bought an over size sink, two inches deeper and
was also two inches wider as an oversize sink is not a standard size.
But cutting out the opening one inch on each side entailed no extra
cabinetry alterations. I didn't really need to change the faucet but
I wanted one that was higher and with a spray hose combo. The only
alteration was the waste line, I had to change the double drain to a
single. was very simple and inexpensive, cost like $15 for the kit.
Only the oversize sink and the faucet were expensive but that was my
choice to buy top of the line qualitywise.
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On 11/3/2017 3:13 PM, wrote:
> Do not use ammonia on aluminum.



TOP TIP!!!!
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On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 9:17:52 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> We're in the process of cleaning the outside/inside of our big floor
> to ceiling wall of windows. The easiest thing to clean with (I've
> tried them all) is really warm water with a good glug of ammonia. Even
> when we had a dog the doggie nose schmutz cleaned right up.
> Janet US
>
>

I use this same 50/50 mixture to wipe off the range hood. A hot soapy
dishcloth just wasn't thoroughly cleaning it. A couple of spritzes of
the glass/ammonia cleaner and it's sparkling clean. No sticky or greasy
residue and I can save that elbow grease for other chores.



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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non
>>>>> stick
>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>
>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and
>>>> everything comes right off.
>>>>
>>> From the article: "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>
>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large
>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily
>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.
>>> Not so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> Get a new sink. They're pretty inexpensive.

>
> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
> $30,000.


You can replace a double bowl sink with a single without an entire
kitchen remodel.

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On 11/3/2017 7:21 PM, Alex wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non
>>>>>> stick
>>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and
>>>>> everything comes right off.
>>>>>
>>>> From the article:Â* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.Â* I miss the large
>>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.Â* It could easily
>>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not
>>>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Get a new sink.Â* They're pretty inexpensive.

>>
>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
>> $30,000.

>
> You can replace a double bowl sink with a single without an entire
> kitchen remodel.
>


Theoretically, yes.
I see you remodeled your kitchen, not just replaced the sink. There is a
reason for that and most people would do the same if the kitchen is more
than abot 20 years.
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On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 1:21:46 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
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> You can replace a double bowl sink with a single without an entire
> kitchen remodel.


I have a double sink it has one big sink and one small sink. It has the sink molded into the counter. I suppose the sink would have to be cut out if it had to be replaced. That would be wild.

I don't know how I'd handle a large single sink. That's an interesting concept though.
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 17:41:07 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
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>On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 1:21:46 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
>>
>> You can replace a double bowl sink with a single without an entire
>> kitchen remodel.

>
>I have a double sink it has one big sink and one small sink. It has the sink molded into the counter. I suppose the sink would have to be cut out if it had to be replaced. That would be wild.
>
>I don't know how I'd handle a large single sink. That's an interesting concept though.



What's to handle... I removed a double sink and installed an oversize
single kitchen sink... the few times I need a smaller sink I have a
plastic dish pan.
I love this over sized extra deep SS sink... required no modifications
other than changing the drain from a double to a single, a $15 kit...
and saber sawing the counter opening 2" wider. If I didn't want the
over sized sink there would have been no sawing. This over sized sink
makes it easy for me to wash my over sized cookwa
https://postimg.org/image/34chdih7d7/


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On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 21:33:57 -0400, wrote:

> This over sized sink makes it easy for me to wash my over sized cookwa


It looks big enough to bathe the big cat on the counter.
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On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 3:34:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> What's to handle... I removed a double sink and installed an oversize
> single kitchen sink... the few times I need a smaller sink I have a
> plastic dish pan.
> I love this over sized extra deep SS sink... required no modifications
> other than changing the drain from a double to a single, a $15 kit...
> and saber sawing the counter opening 2" wider. If I didn't want the
> over sized sink there would have been no sawing. This over sized sink
> makes it easy for me to wash my over sized cookwa
> https://postimg.org/image/34chdih7d7/


I can remove a SS sink. That's not a problem. My sink is different.
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 22:20:17 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
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>On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 3:34:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> What's to handle... I removed a double sink and installed an oversize
>> single kitchen sink... the few times I need a smaller sink I have a
>> plastic dish pan.
>> I love this over sized extra deep SS sink... required no modifications
>> other than changing the drain from a double to a single, a $15 kit...
>> and saber sawing the counter opening 2" wider. If I didn't want the
>> over sized sink there would have been no sawing. This over sized sink
>> makes it easy for me to wash my over sized cookwa
>> https://postimg.org/image/34chdih7d7/

>
>I can remove a SS sink. That's not a problem. My sink is different.


Is that a vintage kitchen from the 50s?


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In article >, mqduffy001
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>
> On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 21:33:57 -0400, wrote:
>
> > This over sized sink makes it easy for me to wash my over sized cookwa


Great sink.
>
> It looks big enough to bathe the big cat on the counter.


I bet I'm not the only parent here who has speed-bathed a baby or
toddler in the kitchen sink.

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Janet wrote:
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> I bet I'm not the only parent here who has speed-bathed a baby or
> toddler in the kitchen sink.


Easier on the back!

Here's a real "gasp" for all of you. I actually hand washed cloth
diapers in the kitchen sink each night for over a year. That's
even worse than Sheldon's cats on kitchen counter or my ferrets.
LOL
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 10:16:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Janet wrote:
>>
>> I bet I'm not the only parent here who has speed-bathed a baby or
>> toddler in the kitchen sink.

>
>Easier on the back!
>
>Here's a real "gasp" for all of you. I actually hand washed cloth
>diapers in the kitchen sink each night for over a year. That's
>even worse than Sheldon's cats on kitchen counter or my ferrets.
>LOL


I washed schmutzy diapers in the bathroom sink.
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 22:20:17 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 3:34:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> What's to handle... I removed a double sink and installed an oversize
>> single kitchen sink... the few times I need a smaller sink I have a
>> plastic dish pan.
>> I love this over sized extra deep SS sink... required no modifications
>> other than changing the drain from a double to a single, a $15 kit...
>> and saber sawing the counter opening 2" wider. If I didn't want the
>> over sized sink there would have been no sawing. This over sized sink
>> makes it easy for me to wash my over sized cookwa
>> https://postimg.org/image/34chdih7d7/

>
>I can remove a SS sink. That's not a problem. My sink is different.


What can be different... it's metric... still the openings are
standard. If yours is rimless simply drop in another rimless.


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On 11/4/2017 11:42 AM, wrote:
> I washed schmutzy diapers in the bathroom sink.
>

Before your sponge bath.

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On 11/4/2017 9:16 AM, Gary wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> I bet I'm not the only parent here who has speed-bathed a baby or
>> toddler in the kitchen sink.

>
> Easier on the back!
>
> Here's a real "gasp" for all of you. I actually hand washed cloth
> diapers in the kitchen sink each night for over a year. That's
> even worse than Sheldon's cats on kitchen counter or my ferrets.
> LOL
>


OMG!



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On 11/4/2017 9:39 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 22:29:44 -0600, Casa de los peregrinos
> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/3/2017 7:33 PM,
wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 17:41:07 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 1:21:46 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can replace a double bowl sink with a single without an entire
>>>>> kitchen remodel.
>>>>
>>>> I have a double sink it has one big sink and one small sink. It has the sink molded into the counter. I suppose the sink would have to be cut out if it had to be replaced. That would be wild.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how I'd handle a large single sink. That's an interesting concept though.
>>>
>>>
>>> What's to handle... I removed a double sink and installed an oversize
>>> single kitchen sink... the few times I need a smaller sink I have a
>>> plastic dish pan.
>>> I love this over sized extra deep SS sink... required no modifications
>>> other than changing the drain from a double to a single, a $15 kit...
>>> and saber sawing the counter opening 2" wider. If I didn't want the
>>> over sized sink there would have been no sawing. This over sized sink
>>> makes it easy for me to wash my over sized cookwa
>>>
https://postimg.org/image/34chdih7d7/
>>>

>>
>> The place is _always_ as neat as a frigging pin!...now about that kitty
>> paw counter action...

>
> Not to worry, you won't be invited.
>


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> On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 10:16:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Janet wrote:
>>>
>>> I bet I'm not the only parent here who has speed-bathed a baby or
>>> toddler in the kitchen sink.

>>
>>Easier on the back!
>>
>>Here's a real "gasp" for all of you. I actually hand washed cloth
>>diapers in the kitchen sink each night for over a year. That's
>>even worse than Sheldon's cats on kitchen counter or my ferrets.
>>LOL

>
> I washed schmutzy diapers in the bathroom sink.



Either way you couldn't have gotten the diapers *really* clean, just
passable.

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On Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 5:45:39 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
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> What can be different... it's metric... still the openings are
> standard. If yours is rimless simply drop in another rimless.


My sink is molded to the countertop. There is no opening.

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>> On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 10:16:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>Janet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I bet I'm not the only parent here who has speed-bathed a baby or
>>>> toddler in the kitchen sink.
>>>
>>>Easier on the back!
>>>
>>>Here's a real "gasp" for all of you. I actually hand washed cloth
>>>diapers in the kitchen sink each night for over a year. That's
>>>even worse than Sheldon's cats on kitchen counter or my ferrets.
>>>LOL

>>
>> I washed schmutzy diapers in the bathroom sink.

>
>
>Either way you couldn't have gotten the diapers *really* clean, just
>passable.
>
>Cheri


After sink washing they were laundered in a wahing machine... I wasn't
going to toss crap filled diapers in the washing machine. After a
while someone with a passle of kids showed me to rinse dirty diapers
in the toilet. After a month I sprung for diaper service... $10/wk
was a bargain. Back then disposables had just come out and
were very expensive.


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>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 15:48:24 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In article >,
says...
>> > > > >
>> > >>> Janet wrote:
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > I bet I'm not the only parent here who has speed-bathed a
>> > baby or >>> > toddler in the kitchen sink.
>> > > > >
>> > >>> Easier on the back!
>> > > >
>> > >>> Here's a real "gasp" for all of you. I actually hand washed
>> > cloth >>> diapers in the kitchen sink each night for over a year.
>> > > >
>> > >> Shock horror. I spent seven YEARS emptying the nappy
>> > sterilizer
>> > > > bucket into the sink, then wringing out the nappies to put them
>> > > > in the washing machine.
>> > > >
>> > >> Janet UK
>> > >
>> > > You musta had a half dozen kids spaced close apart
>> >
>> > And no way to get to the toilet to dump it.

>>
>> Why would anyone dump the steriliser-soaked nappies down the toilet?
>>
>>
>> Janet UK

>
> I think they are assuming you didn't remove the 'solids' first before
> putting the nappies in the sterilizer like any sane person would.



No, I was assuming that the diapers had been emptied, but she was dumping
the water before removing the diapers, if she wants to use her sink as a
toilet, I don't have a problem with it.

Cheri

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dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 5:45:39 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>> What can be different... it's metric... still the openings are
>> standard. If yours is rimless simply drop in another rimless.

> My sink is molded to the countertop. There is no opening.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...M7bIqYItklalgj


Nice design!



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On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 1:44:26 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
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> I just remodeled my kitchen and went with one of these. Single sink 9"
> deep - the "Palma".
>
> http://topzero.com/gallery.html


Hoo boy, that's a beauty. Sleek and modern!
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On Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 8:52:09 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
> Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> > On 11/3/2017 5:44 PM, Alex wrote:
> >> Dave Smith wrote:
> >>> On 2017-11-02 11:13 PM, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only
> >>>>> another $30,000.
> >>>>
> >>>> There's no need to do anything to the cabinets when swapping a dual
> >>>> sink for a single. When I moved here I got rid of their double sink
> >>>> and installed a single extra deep sink and only needed to change the
> >>>> faucet deck... no cabinetry work.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> It depends on the size of the sink.If you are replacing a sink with
> >>> one the same size you may not need anything changed. If you are
> >>> replacing it with a larger one you will need to cut the counter to
> >>> widen the whole. If you are installing a smaller sink you are likely
> >>> going to have to replace the counter top.
> >>
> >> I just remodeled my kitchen and went with one of these. Single sink
> >> 9" deep - the "Palma".
> >>
> >>
http://topzero.com/gallery.html

> >
> > Nice, but mind the scratches.

>
> Show me a stainless sink that doesn't scratch. This one looks brand new
> after 6 months but we don't throw pots and silverware in it.


I don't care about scratches. Everything in my kitchen is a tool,
and if something picks up a few battle scars, it doesn't bother me.

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> > Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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> >> In article >,

> >> says...
> >> >
> >> > > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 15:48:24 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > In article >,
says...
> >> > > > >
> >> > >>> Janet wrote:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > I bet I'm not the only parent here who has speed-bathed a
> >> > baby or >>> > toddler in the kitchen sink.
> >> > > > >
> >> > >>> Easier on the back!
> >> > > >
> >> > >>> Here's a real "gasp" for all of you. I actually hand washed
> >> > cloth >>> diapers in the kitchen sink each night for over a year.
> >> > > >
> >> > >> Shock horror. I spent seven YEARS emptying the nappy
> >> > sterilizer
> >> > > > bucket into the sink, then wringing out the nappies to put them
> >> > > > in the washing machine.
> >> > > >
> >> > >> Janet UK
> >> > >
> >> > > You musta had a half dozen kids spaced close apart
> >> >
> >> > And no way to get to the toilet to dump it.
> >>
> >> Why would anyone dump the steriliser-soaked nappies down the toilet?
> >>
> >>
> >> Janet UK

> >
> > I think they are assuming you didn't remove the 'solids' first before
> > putting the nappies in the sterilizer like any sane person would.


cheri probably has no kids.
>
>
> No, I was assuming that the diapers had been emptied, but she was dumping
> the water before removing the diapers, if she wants to use her sink as a
> toilet, I don't have a problem with it.


So you don't recognise the term "steriliser"?

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On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 09:06:42 -0700, Casa de los peregrinos
> wrote:

>On 11/4/2017 6:51 PM, Alex wrote:
>> Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>> On 11/3/2017 5:44 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-11-02 11:13 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only
>>>>>>> another $30,000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's no need to do anything to the cabinets when swapping a dual
>>>>>> sink for a single.* When I moved here I got rid of their double sink
>>>>>> and installed a single extra deep sink and only needed to change the
>>>>>> faucet deck... no cabinetry work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It depends on the size of the sink.If you are replacing a sink with
>>>>> one the same size you may not need anything* changed. If you are
>>>>> replacing it with a larger one you will need to cut the counter to
>>>>> widen the whole. If you are installing a smaller sink you are likely
>>>>> going to have to replace the counter top.
>>>>
>>>> I just remodeled my kitchen and went with one of these.* Single sink
>>>> 9" deep - the "Palma".
>>>>
>>>>
http://topzero.com/gallery.html
>>>
>>> Nice, but mind the scratches.

>>
>> Show me a stainless sink that doesn't scratch.

>
>No can do.
>
>> This one looks brand new
>> after 6 months but we don't throw pots and silverware in it.

>
>And THAT is how to do it!
>
>Also a nice stainless grid with rubber feet helps tremendously.


I have Rubbermaid mats in my SS sink, no scratches... and naturally if
one is abusive nothing will help.
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