Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout

Video included.



Lenona.

On 11/1/2017 1:52 PM, wrote:
> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>
> Video included.
>
>
>
> Lenona.
>


"(We prefer Heinz white vinegar and Arm and Hammer baking soda, but this
will work with any brands really.)"


This sort of stuff always makes me shake my head.

On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>
> Video included.
>
>
>
> Lenona.
>

Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
sheet pan.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 4:27:02 PM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
> On 11/1/2017 1:52 PM, wrote:
>
> > Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
> >
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
> >
> > Video included.
> >
> > Lenona.
> >
>
> "(We prefer Heinz white vinegar and Arm and Hammer baking soda, but this
> will work with any brands really.)"
>
>
> This sort of stuff always makes me shake my head.
>
>
Me, too. Lenona is always digging up some weird shit, too.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
> > Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
> >
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
> >
> > Video included.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lenona.
> >
>
> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
> sheet pan.

I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything comes right off.

On 11/1/2017 6:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>
>>> Video included.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lenona.
>>>
>>
>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>> sheet pan.
>
> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything comes right off.
>

Always a good tip - if it's safe for oil spill duckss, it's safe enough
for human made non-stick...

On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>
>>> Video included.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lenona.
>>>
>>
>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>> sheet pan.
>
> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything comes right off.
>
From the article: "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"

The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large single
kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily hold a
large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not so with
the standard double-sink setup.

Jill

On 11/1/2017 7:40 PM, wrote:
>>
>> On 11/1/2017 1:52 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>
>>> Video included.
>>>
>>> Lenona.
>>>
>>
(snippage)
> Lenona is always digging up some weird shit, too.
>
She apparently subscribes to some odd feeds. Most of it has to do with
cooking and related things, though.

Forget about the brand names. The combination of the white vinegar and
baking soda is good for a lot of things.

I use it to clean my rings and earrings (hard metal and hard gemstones
only!). Just mix a little together in a bowl, enough to cover the
jewelry. Yep, it will fizz! Add jewelry and soak for about 30 minutes.
I use a very soft toothbrush to gently clean the stones in the setting.
Rinse and voila! You've got nice sparkling jewelry again.

That combo is good at removing tarnish from silver, too. Silverware.
Jewelry. And again, when it comes to jewelry, hard gemstones only. The
combination of vinegar and baking soda is slightly corrosive.

The article also said the mixture will not only make cleaning a sheet
pan easier, it will also clean your drain when you let the water out of
the sink. I guess that's a bonus.

Just plain vinegar and water is good for cleaning windows and mirrors.

To clean your auto-drip coffee maker, run some vinegar and water through
it (don't add coffee! LOL). Use the hot vinegar water to clean the
carafe. You'll want to run water through the machine again to remove
the vinegar residue.

Baking soda is good for a lot of things other than baking, too:

https://www.almanac.com/content/hous...es-baking-soda

Too many to list, but it's a good site. My mom did the baking soda &
water paste thing to take the sting out of an occasional bee-sting I got
when I was a child playing outside. It worked. It helps with itchy
mosquito bites, too, although I don't often get bitten by them.

Here's a funny thing my mother always told me told me to do when I got
bitten by a mosquito: "Put an X on it." That is, use your fingernail
and press an X onto the site of the itchy mosquito bite. For some odd
reason, it actually works. LOL

Jill

In article >, says...
>
> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> >> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
> >>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
> >>>
> >>> Video included.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lenona.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
> >> sheet pan.
> >
> > I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything comes right off.
> >
> From the article: "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>
> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large single
> kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily hold a
> large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not so with
> the standard double-sink setup.
>
> Jill

In article >, says...
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 04:37:21 -0400
> Subject: MSN: "How to Clean the Brown Stuff Off Your Sheet Pans"
> From: jmcquown >
>
> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> >> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
> >>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
> >>>
> >>> Video included.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lenona.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
> >> sheet pan.
> >
> > I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything comes right off.
> >
> From the article: "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>
> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large single
> kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily hold a
> large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not so with
> the standard double-sink setup.
>
You could soak all the smaller baking pieces (in turn) inside the
largest one.

Janet UK

On 11/2/2017 8:13 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 04:37:21 -0400
>> Subject: MSN: "How to Clean the Brown Stuff Off Your Sheet Pans"
>> From: jmcquown >
>>
>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>
>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>>>> sheet pan.
>>>
>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything comes right off.
>>>
>> From the article: "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>
>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large single
>> kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily hold a
>> large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not so with
>> the standard double-sink setup.
>>
> You could soak all the smaller baking pieces (in turn) inside the
> largest one.
>
> Janet UK
>
>
Sure, but only the smallest baking pieces fit in the sink. The double
sinks don't work for soaking, say, a lasagna pan.

Jill

On 11/2/2017 4:37 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> From the article:Â* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>
> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.Â* I miss the large single
> kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.Â* It could easily hold a
> large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.Â* Not so with
> the standard double-sink setup.
>
> Jill

If the pan has a lip I fill the pan., If no lip, saturate a paper towel
and let it stand on it.

On 2017-11-02, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> If the pan has a lip I fill the pan., If no lip, saturate a paper towel
> and let it stand on it.

Yep. The "lipped" pans will hold water, even on a dbl-sink
configuration. Jes set the pans on top of the sink sides.

I've not used a "no lip" cookie sheet in yrs, but yer idea sounds like
it should work.

nb

I have used an ice chest for submerging brining turkeys, and also gunky pans with water
and soap. I have a divided sink and wouldn't want a big farmhouse style, so an ice chest
is perfect.

N.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
>
> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large single
> kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily hold a large
> sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not so with the
> standard double-sink setup.
>
> Jill


Yes, the standard double sink set up is not something I like either.

Cheri

On 11/2/2017 11:08 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news >
>>
>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.* I miss the large
>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.* It could easily
>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.* Not
>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> Yes, the standard double sink set up is not something I like either.
>
> Cheri


Gotta go back to the past with:

http://cdn.nativetrails.net/media/ca..._bn_1000_1.jpg

http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...e-copper_2.jpg

http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...nk-white_5.jpg

"Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
news
> On 11/2/2017 11:08 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news >>
>>>
>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large single
>>> kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily hold a large
>>> sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not so with the
>>> standard double-sink setup.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> Yes, the standard double sink set up is not something I like either.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>
> Gotta go back to the past with:
>
> http://cdn.nativetrails.net/media/ca..._bn_1000_1.jpg
>
> http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...e-copper_2.jpg
>
> http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...nk-white_5.jpg


I would love any one of those sinks.

Cheri

On 11/2/2017 11:21 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 11/2/2017 11:08 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large
>>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily
>>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not
>>>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, the standard double sink set up is not something I like either.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>>
>> Gotta go back to the past with:
>>
>> http://cdn.nativetrails.net/media/ca..._bn_1000_1.jpg
>>
>>
>> http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...e-copper_2.jpg
>>
>>
>> http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...nk-white_5.jpg
>>
>
>
> I would love any one of those sinks.
>
> Cheri


Yeah, the metal ones are very neat looking, but I wonder about cleaning
and polishing.

Porcelain is hard to beat.

They make them in a plain stainless too, but oh the scratches!

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:32:20 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> Forget about the brand names. The combination of the white vinegar and
> baking soda is good for a lot of things.
>
> I use it to clean my rings and earrings (hard metal and hard gemstones
> only!). Just mix a little together in a bowl, enough to cover the
> jewelry. Yep, it will fizz! Add jewelry and soak for about 30 minutes.
> I use a very soft toothbrush to gently clean the stones in the setting.
> Rinse and voila! You've got nice sparkling jewelry again.
>
The BEST thing I've e-v-e-r used to clean rings is full strength ammonia.
But don't use this on sterling silver jewelry, pearls, opals, or tur-
quoise. Yes, a soft toothbrush is best.
>
> The article also said the mixture will not only make cleaning a sheet
> pan easier, it will also clean your drain when you let the water out of
> the sink. I guess that's a bonus.
>
Too clean and 'sweeten' your drain it's best to dump the baking soda
down it and then pour the vinegar right in. You'll get lots of foam-
ing.
>
> Just plain vinegar and water is good for cleaning windows and mirrors.
>
My favorite is a 50/50 mixture of window cleaner and non-sudsy ammonia.
The ammonia really cuts through the dirt and grease.
>
> To clean your auto-drip coffee maker, run some vinegar and water through
> it (don't add coffee! LOL). Use the hot vinegar water to clean the
> carafe. You'll want to run water through the machine again to remove
> the vinegar residue.
>
Yes, I've done this several times.
>
> Baking soda is good for a lot of things other than baking, too:
>
I use it to clean Pema the cat's electronic water bowl.
>
> Jill

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> I have used an ice chest for submerging brining turkeys, and also gunky pans with water
> and soap. I have a divided sink and wouldn't want a big farmhouse style, so an ice chest
> is perfect.
>
> N.
>
>
That's a dang good idea! I was going to suggest she get some sort of
plastic underbed storage box. But then she would have to store THAT
somewhere when not needed.

I did see a tip many years ago of how to clean grill grates by putting
them in a large plastic garbage or lawn and leaf bag, after they've
cooled, and pour ammonia inside and tie up. Of course, all this is
done outside and leave the bag laying flat on the ground or patio. Eh,
I just give my a thorough brushing after the coals have them blazing
hot.

On 11/2/2017 1:21 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 11/2/2017 11:08 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large
>>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily
>>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not
>>>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, the standard double sink set up is not something I like either.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>>
>> Gotta go back to the past with:
>>
>> http://cdn.nativetrails.net/media/ca..._bn_1000_1.jpg
>>
>>
>> http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...e-copper_2.jpg
>>
>>
>> http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...nk-white_5.jpg
>>
>
>
> I would love any one of those sinks.
>
> Cheri

I like the size, however I don't want my sink to stick out beyond the
cabinets. The large kitchen sink I had was like a double sink without
the divider, one drain/garbage disposal. It was a good size for washing
any kitchen pan.

Jill

On 11/2/2017 3:53 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> I have used an ice chest for submerging brining turkeys, and also gunky pans with water
>> and soap. I have a divided sink and wouldn't want a big farmhouse style, so an ice chest
>> is perfect.
>>
>> N.
>>
>>
> That's a dang good idea! I was going to suggest she get some sort of
> plastic underbed storage box. But then she would have to store THAT
> somewhere when not needed.
>
I don't have an ice chest large enough for washing sheet pans. I *do*
have a plastic underbed storage box! I should have thought of that.
Where to store it when not needed? Under the bed. LOL

> I did see a tip many years ago of how to clean grill grates by putting
> them in a large plastic garbage or lawn and leaf bag, after they've
> cooled, and pour ammonia inside and tie up. Of course, all this is
> done outside and leave the bag laying flat on the ground or patio. Eh,
> I just give my a thorough brushing after the coals have them blazing
> hot.
>
Yeah, I just use a wire grill brush and brush it off when the coals are
still hot. I don't let the grill grates get gunked up.

Jill

On 11/2/2017 2:31 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 1:21 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 11/2/2017 11:08 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large
>>>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily
>>>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.
>>>>> Not so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the standard double sink set up is not something I like either.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>> Gotta go back to the past with:
>>>
>>> http://cdn.nativetrails.net/media/ca..._bn_1000_1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...e-copper_2.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.signaturehardware.com/med...nk-white_5.jpg
>>>
>>
>>
>> I would love any one of those sinks.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I like the size, however I don't want my sink to stick out beyond the
> cabinets.* The large kitchen sink I had was like a double sink without
> the divider, one drain/garbage disposal.* It was a good size for washing
> any kitchen pan.
>
> Jill

There's a reason they cal them "apron sinks"...they don't let drips run
straight into the cabinets.

Mount them flush to a base cabinet and you's have to caulk the interface
with the cabinet big time and then water still tries to work its way in.

Most extend no farther than the counter itself.

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 16:34:41 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 11/2/2017 3:53 PM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>
>>> I have used an ice chest for submerging brining turkeys, and also gunky pans with water
>>> and soap. I have a divided sink and wouldn't want a big farmhouse style, so an ice chest
>>> is perfect.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>>>
>> That's a dang good idea! I was going to suggest she get some sort of
>> plastic underbed storage box. But then she would have to store THAT
>> somewhere when not needed.
>>
>I don't have an ice chest large enough for washing sheet pans. I *do*
>have a plastic underbed storage box! I should have thought of that.
>Where to store it when not needed? Under the bed. LOL
>
>> I did see a tip many years ago of how to clean grill grates by putting
>> them in a large plastic garbage or lawn and leaf bag, after they've
>> cooled, and pour ammonia inside and tie up. Of course, all this is
>> done outside and leave the bag laying flat on the ground or patio. Eh,
>> I just give my a thorough brushing after the coals have them blazing
>> hot.
>>
>Yeah, I just use a wire grill brush and brush it off when the coals are
>still hot. I don't let the grill grates get gunked up.
>
>Jill

Without a large enough sink soak in your bathtub... or soak outdoors
in a plastic garbage bag.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>> peregrinos wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Video included.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lenona.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>>> sheet pan.
>>
>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything
>> comes right off.
>>
> From the article: "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>
> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large
> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily
> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not
> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>
> Jill

Get a new sink. They're pretty inexpensive.

On 11/2/2017 4:55 PM, Alex wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>>>> sheet pan.
>>>
>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything
>>> comes right off.
>>>
>> From the article:Â* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>
>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.Â* I miss the large
>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.Â* It could easily
>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.Â* Not
>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Get a new sink.Â* They're pretty inexpensive.

Not these stainless farmhouse ones - $550-750 is typical.

But in the relative scheme of a kitchen remodel - very affordable.

And very useful for so many things like filling pasta pots, washing
oversize baking pans, etc.

Shoot, a small to mid sized dog can be bathed there, if one so chooses...

%-0

On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>>>> sheet pan.
>>>
>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything
>>> comes right off.
>>>
>> From the article:Â* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>
>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.Â* I miss the large
>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.Â* It could easily
>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.Â* Not
>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Get a new sink.Â* They're pretty inexpensive.

Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another $30,000.

On 11/2/2017 6:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>
>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and
>>>> everything comes right off.
>>>>
>>> From the article:Â* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>
>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.Â* I miss the large
>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.Â* It could easily
>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.Â* Not
>>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Get a new sink.Â* They're pretty inexpensive.
>
> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
> $30,000.

Not so fast kemosabe...

A double door base cabinet can be had for less than $800.

And standard grade granite/quartz for counters is downright cheap these
days.

$30K is a whole kitchen cabinet and counter remodel to a really high
standard.

On 11/2/2017 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>
>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and
>>>> everything comes right off.
>>>>
>>> From the article:Â* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>
>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.Â* I miss the large
>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.Â* It could easily
>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.Â* Not
>>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Get a new sink.Â* They're pretty inexpensive.
>
> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
> $30,000.

I'll just hire someone to rip out the sink and reconfigure the plumbing
for the single sink. It's connected to the garbage disposal which is
connected to the dishwasher and... well all the drains. I do hope all
they charge me for is the sink! LOL

Jill

On 11/2/2017 8:55 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 6:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non
>>>>>> stick
>>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and
>>>>> everything comes right off.
>>>>>
>>>> From the article:Â* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.Â* I miss the large
>>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.Â* It could easily
>>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.
>>>> Not so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Get a new sink.Â* They're pretty inexpensive.
>>
>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
>> $30,000.
>
> Not so fast kemosabe...
>
> A double door base cabinet can be had for less than $800.
>
> And standard grade granite/quartz for counters is downright cheap these
> days.
>
> $30K is a whole kitchen cabinet and counter remodel to a really high
> standard.

Tell my wife she is getting just one cabinet.

On 11/2/2017 3:47 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:32:20 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> Forget about the brand names. The combination of the white vinegar and
>> baking soda is good for a lot of things.
>>
>> I use it to clean my rings and earrings (hard metal and hard gemstones
>> only!). Just mix a little together in a bowl, enough to cover the
>> jewelry. Yep, it will fizz! Add jewelry and soak for about 30 minutes.
>> I use a very soft toothbrush to gently clean the stones in the setting.
>> Rinse and voila! You've got nice sparkling jewelry again.
>>
> The BEST thing I've e-v-e-r used to clean rings is full strength ammonia.
> But don't use this on sterling silver jewelry, pearls, opals, or tur-
> quoise. Yes, a soft toothbrush is best.
>>
>> The article also said the mixture will not only make cleaning a sheet
>> pan easier, it will also clean your drain when you let the water out of
>> the sink. I guess that's a bonus.
>>
> Too clean and 'sweeten' your drain it's best to dump the baking soda
> down it and then pour the vinegar right in. You'll get lots of foam-
> ing.
>>
>> Just plain vinegar and water is good for cleaning windows and mirrors.
>>
> My favorite is a 50/50 mixture of window cleaner and non-sudsy ammonia.
> The ammonia really cuts through the dirt and grease.
>>
Uh... you use window cleaner *and* ammonia?

Jill

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>
>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything
>>>> comes right off.
>>>>
>>> From the article:Â "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>
>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large single
>>> kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily hold a
>>> large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not so with
>>> the standard double-sink setup.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Get a new sink. They're pretty inexpensive.
>
> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
> $30,000.


LOL, so true

Cheri

"Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
news
> On 11/2/2017 6:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non
>>>>>> stick
>>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything
>>>>> comes right off.
>>>>>
>>>> From the article:Â "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large
>>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily
>>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish. Not
>>>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Get a new sink. They're pretty inexpensive.
>>
>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
>> $30,000.
>
> Not so fast kemosabe...
>
> A double door base cabinet can be had for less than $800.
>
> And standard grade granite/quartz for counters is downright cheap these
> days.
>
> $30K is a whole kitchen cabinet and counter remodel to a really high
> standard.


But then all the appliances etc would look bad, so they would have to be
updated too, and the floor and so on....

Cheri

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 8:37:53 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 11/2/2017 3:47 PM, wrote:
> >>
> >> Just plain vinegar and water is good for cleaning windows and mirrors.
> >>
> > My favorite is a 50/50 mixture of window cleaner and non-sudsy ammonia.
> > The ammonia really cuts through the dirt and grease.
> >>
> Uh... you use window cleaner *and* ammonia?
>
> Jill
>
>
Yes. The regular window cleaner is not really strong enough to thoroughly
clean windows and mirrors. But the ammonia is awfully strong smelling so
I do it half and half. At that, the stuff will still stop a charging rhinoceros.

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:27:40 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non stick
>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>
>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and everything
>>>> comes right off.
>>>>
>>> From the article:* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>
>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.* I miss the large
>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.* It could easily
>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.* Not
>>> so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Get a new sink.* They're pretty inexpensive.
>
>Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another $30,000.

There's no need to do anything to the cabinets when swapping a dual
sink for a single. When I moved here I got rid of their double sink
and installed a single extra deep sink and only needed to change the
faucet deck... no cabinetry work.

On 2017-11-02 11:13 PM, wrote:

>>
>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another $30,000.
>
> There's no need to do anything to the cabinets when swapping a dual
> sink for a single. When I moved here I got rid of their double sink
> and installed a single extra deep sink and only needed to change the
> faucet deck... no cabinetry work.
>

It depends on the size of the sink.If you are replacing a sink with one
the same size you may not need anything changed. If you are replacing
it with a larger one you will need to cut the counter to widen the
whole. If you are installing a smaller sink you are likely going to have
to replace the counter top.

On 11/2/2017 7:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 8:55 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 11/2/2017 6:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non
>>>>>>> stick
>>>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and
>>>>>> everything comes right off.
>>>>>>
>>>>> From the article:Â* "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink.Â* I miss the large
>>>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment.Â* It could easily
>>>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.
>>>>> Not so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Get a new sink.Â* They're pretty inexpensive.
>>>
>>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
>>> $30,000.
>>
>> Not so fast kemosabe...
>>
>> A double door base cabinet can be had for less than $800.
>>
>> And standard grade granite/quartz for counters is downright cheap
>> these days.
>>
>> $30K is a whole kitchen cabinet and counter remodel to a really high
>> standard.
>
> Tell my wife she is getting just one cabinet.

Oh boy...it must be super high end...cherry?

It clearly costs a LOT less to remodel out in these parts.

On 11/2/2017 7:41 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Casa de los peregrinos" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 11/2/2017 6:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 11/2/2017 6:55 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 11/1/2017 8:23 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-7, Casa de los
>>>>>> peregrinos wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/1/2017 2:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well, most of us know about this already...maybe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...id=mailsignout
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Video included.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lenona.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good tip, just remember to use a Dobie plastic pad if it's a non
>>>>>>> stick
>>>>>>> sheet pan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just use Dawn and hot water and let it sit overnight and
>>>>>> everything comes right off.
>>>>>>
>>>>> From the article:Â "Make sure your sink is plugged so they stay
>>>>> submerged, and let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour"
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem I have is even my smallest baking sheet is too long to
>>>>> submerge, much less leave to soak, in the sink. I miss the large
>>>>> single kitchen sink that was in my last apartment. It could easily
>>>>> hold a large sheet pan or a large rectangular glass baking dish.Â
>>>>> Not so with the standard double-sink setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Get a new sink. They're pretty inexpensive.
>>>
>>> Sure, but the cabinet, countertop that goes with it is only another
>>> $30,000.
>>
>> Not so fast kemosabe...
>>
>> A double door base cabinet can be had for less than $800.
>>
>> And standard grade granite/quartz for counters is downright cheap
>> these days.
>>
>> $30K is a whole kitchen cabinet and counter remodel to a really high
>> standard.
>
>
> But then all the appliances etc would look bad, so they would have to be
> updated too, and the floor and so on....
>
> Cheri

The dominoes do tend to fall, don't they?

It's a rare bird who can phase a kitchen remodel and wait out a real
world budget.

On 11/2/2017 10:24 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 8:37:53 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> On 11/2/2017 3:47 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just plain vinegar and water is good for cleaning windows and mirrors.
>>>>
>>> My favorite is a 50/50 mixture of window cleaner and non-sudsy ammonia.
>>> The ammonia really cuts through the dirt and grease.
>>>>
>> Uh... you use window cleaner *and* ammonia?
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> Yes. The regular window cleaner is not really strong enough to thoroughly
> clean windows and mirrors. But the ammonia is awfully strong smelling so
> I do it half and half. At that, the stuff will still stop a charging rhinoceros.
>
>
Okay. Me, I'd probably just dilute ammonia in water rather than add it
to store-bought window cleaner. You're right about the stench!

Jill

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 09:41:40 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 11/2/2017 10:24 PM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 8:37:53 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/2/2017 3:47 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just plain vinegar and water is good for cleaning windows and mirrors.
>>>>>
>>>> My favorite is a 50/50 mixture of window cleaner and non-sudsy ammonia.
>>>> The ammonia really cuts through the dirt and grease.
>>>>>
>>> Uh... you use window cleaner *and* ammonia?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>> Yes. The regular window cleaner is not really strong enough to thoroughly
>> clean windows and mirrors. But the ammonia is awfully strong smelling so
>> I do it half and half. At that, the stuff will still stop a charging rhinoceros.
>>
>>
>Okay. Me, I'd probably just dilute ammonia in water rather than add it
>to store-bought window cleaner. You're right about the stench!
>
>Jill

We're in the process of cleaning the outside/inside of our big floor
to ceiling wall of windows. The easiest thing to clean with (I've
tried them all) is really warm water with a good glug of ammonia. Even
when we had a dog the doggie nose schmutz cleaned right up.
Janet US