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Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?

A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.

http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html

I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are
closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has
my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .
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On 11/2/2017 1:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>
> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>
> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>
> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24.* Most family restaurants are
> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better.* It has
> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there.* .



I wouldn't pay it, but it seems to be a trendy item now:

https://www.tedsmontanagrill.com/men...G_T3_PT_CT.pdf

Bison Meatloaf 18$
Gravy, garlic mashed potatoes, Aunt Fannies squash casserole

...saved ya $6, if the drive's not too long...

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:29:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>
>A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
>night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>
>http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>
>I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are
>closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has
>my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .


I'd be qizzing the server first to see if there was some special merit
to it Probably the normal upscale diners don't know how to make
it for themselves, hence the restaurant can make a killing.
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On 11/2/2017 4:10 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:29:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>
>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>
>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>
>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are
>> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has
>> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .

>
> The meatloaf shouldn't be $10 more than the mussels, and only ~10%
> less than the other fish/shellfish entrees.
>
> -sw
>


It may be better grade of meat than the supermarket stuff and there is
the mushroom sauce but still, it seems you are paying for the ambiance
more than ingredients.
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On 2017-11-02 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>
> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>
> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>
> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24.* Most family restaurants are
> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better.* It has
> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there.* .


Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does seem
to be overpriced. IMO it would be over priced if you got the whole loaf
for that price.


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On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:10:49 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:29:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>
>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>
>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>
>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are
>> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has
>> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .

>
>The meatloaf shouldn't be $10 more than the mussels, and only ~10%
>less than the other fish/shellfish entrees.
>
>-sw


I'd not patronize any US restaurant that doesn't know to use dollar
sign$... took me a few moments to figure those stand alone numbers
weren't how many servings... those numbers lacking ddollar signs tell
me from teh get-go that the joint is smarmy.
Restaurant meat loaf dinner should never be more than $8... Blue Plate
Special = Meat Loaf, Mashed w/Gravy, Buttered Veg in Season...
Bread/Butter. There's fancy schmancy meat loaf that may cost more
(terrines), but typical meat loaf should cost less than a mystery meat
burger... restaurant meat loaf is salvaged mystery meat (plate
scrapings) with lots of bread crumb filler.
Hmmm, their swordfish plate is a total rip off at thirty bucks...
fresh caught (never frozen) on Lung Guyland would cost half that.
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> wrote:

>On 2017-11-02 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>
>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>
>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>
>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24.* Most family restaurants are
>> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better.* It has
>> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there.* .

>
>Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does seem
>to be overpriced. IMO it would be over priced if you got the whole loaf
>for that price.


'Zactly! I make meat loaf with five pounds of meat, beef/pork, under
twenty dollars for meat.
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On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>
> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>
> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>
> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are
> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has
> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .

I would pay it. High prices keep the thugs away.
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> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>
> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>
> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>
> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are closer
> to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has my
> curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .


$22 for a polenta cake? All dinners seem overpriced except perhaps the
burger or mussels. If I were to go there I would just have soup and a small
salad but those prices still seem a bit high. The dinner prices should
include soup, the best salad bar you've ever seen, rolls, dessert and at
least a cup of coffee or tea. Yikes!

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On 11/2/2017 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-11-02 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>
>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>
>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>
>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I
>> just cannot think of a meatloaf being $24.* Most family restaurants
>> are closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better.* It
>> has my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there.* .

>
> Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does seem
> to be overpriced.* IMO it would be over priced if you got the whole loaf
> for that price.


Agreed! Even if you personally grind the best cuts of beef, veal and
pork to make a meatloaf, it wouldn't cost $24. Ed is right, people who
order it must be paying for the overall ambiance. Either that or, as
lucretia suggested, the diners don't know how to make meatloaf so
they're willing to pay that much.

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On 11/2/2017 2:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 4:10 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:29:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>>
>>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
>>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>>
>>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>>
>>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24.* Most family restaurants are
>>> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better.* It has
>>> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there.* .

>>
>> The meatloaf shouldn't be $10 more than the mussels, and only ~10%
>> less than the other fish/shellfish entrees.
>>
>> -sw
>>

>
> It may be better grade of meat than the supermarket stuff and there is
> the mushroom sauce but still, it seems you are paying for the ambiance
> more than ingredients.



Heck yes, that's a fancy schmancy joint!

I mean if TYed's Montana (not cheap) does it for $6 less, well...
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On 11/2/2017 3:24 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:10:49 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:29:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>>
>>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
>>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>>
>>>
http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>>
>>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are
>>> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has
>>> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .

>>
>> The meatloaf shouldn't be $10 more than the mussels, and only ~10%
>> less than the other fish/shellfish entrees.
>>
>> -sw

>
> I'd not patronize any US restaurant that doesn't know to use dollar
> sign$... took me a few moments to figure those stand alone numbers
> weren't how many servings... those numbers lacking ddollar signs tell
> me from teh get-go that the joint is smarmy.


Oh good grief!

It's pretty much standard notation in any upscale menu now, get with today!

> Restaurant meat loaf dinner should never be more than $8... Blue Plate
> Special = Meat Loaf, Mashed w/Gravy, Buttered Veg in Season...
> Bread/Butter.


Agreed.

> There's fancy schmancy meat loaf that may cost more
> (terrines), but typical meat loaf should cost less than a mystery meat
> burger... restaurant meat loaf is salvaged mystery meat (plate
> scrapings) with lots of bread crumb filler.


No...it's not "plate scrapings"!

Good grief!

> Hmmm, their swordfish plate is a total rip off at thirty bucks...
> fresh caught (never frozen) on Lung Guyland would cost half that.


The YOU know where to go, right?
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On 11/2/2017 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>

No. Ed, if you do try the meatloaf please report back.

> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>
> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>

That's an interesting menu. They call their onion soup "German Onion"
but it's just a twist on classic French Onion.

There was recently a discussion here about sharing food. Hey, their
appetizers are listed as "Share Plates". Would you need to request a
separate plate in order to share? Hmmmm.

What else is $24? KENTUCKY CHICKEN All natural Statler breast, savory
dry rub, southern style Ivory bar-b-q sauce, stuffed sweet potato,
native corn pudding.

Okay, I've never heard of "southern style Ivory Bar-b-q sauce". Ivory?
As in, white sauce? I wonder what the sweet potato is stuffed with?
Inquiring minds want to know. Heheh.

A better question might be would you pay $22 for a "polenta cake"?! I
don't care how good the roasted vegetables and marinara sauce are...
that's way over the top for fried cornmeal.

Jill


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On 11/2/2017 3:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Okay, I've never heard of "southern style Ivory Bar-b-q sauce".* Ivory?
> As in, white sauce?



"Ivory" as in Mayo based slop/souce...


http://www.southernliving.com/food/h...hite-bbq-sauce

"Its the only sauce we know here, because its what everyone grows up
on," says world barbecue champion Chris Lilly of Big Bob Gibson Bar-B-Q
in Decatur, Alabama. Bob Gibson is credited with concocting white sauce
back in 1925. Today, this tangy, mayonnaise-based condiment,
traditionally used to dress chicken, is as synonymous with the state of
Alabama as legendary football coach Paul "Bear" Bryant. "We marinate
with it, use it to baste, plus we use it as an all-purpose table sauce,"
explains Chris.
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> On 11/2/2017 3:24 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:10:49 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:29:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>>>
>>>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
>>>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>>>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are
>>>> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has
>>>> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .
>>>
>>> The meatloaf shouldn't be $10 more than the mussels, and only ~10%
>>> less than the other fish/shellfish entrees.
>>>
>>> -sw

>>
>> I'd not patronize any US restaurant that doesn't know to use dollar
>> sign$... took me a few moments to figure those stand alone numbers
>> weren't how many servings... those numbers lacking ddollar signs tell
>> me from teh get-go that the joint is smarmy.

>
> Oh good grief!
>
> It's pretty much standard notation in any upscale menu now, get with today!
>
>> Restaurant meat loaf dinner should never be more than $8... Blue Plate
>> Special = Meat Loaf, Mashed w/Gravy, Buttered Veg in Season...
>> Bread/Butter.

>
> Agreed.
>
>> There's fancy schmancy meat loaf that may cost more
>> (terrines), but typical meat loaf should cost less than a mystery meat
>> burger... restaurant meat loaf is salvaged mystery meat (plate
>> scrapings) with lots of bread crumb filler.

>
> No...it's not "plate scrapings"!
>
> Good grief!
>
>> Hmmm, their swordfish plate is a total rip off at thirty bucks...
>> fresh caught (never frozen) on Lung Guyland would cost half that.

>
> The YOU know where to go, right?
>

wertz forgery
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On 11/2/2017 5:29 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 17:22:43 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-11-02 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>>
>>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
>>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>>
>>>
http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>>
>>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24.* Most family restaurants are
>>> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better.* It has
>>> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there.* .

>>
>> Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does seem
>> to be overpriced. IMO it would be over priced if you got the whole loaf
>> for that price.

>
> 'Zactly! I make meat loaf with five pounds of meat, beef/pork, under
> twenty dollars for meat.
>

Even if you throw ground veal into the mix it likely wouldn't cost $24.
The cost of added vegetables (onion, celery), eggs and a binder (bread
crumbs, oatmeal, etc.) is negligible.

But hey, people pay for ambiance and convenience at a restaurant, not
for the ingredients. I don't make deep fried foods at home but I'll buy
it from a restaurant.

Jill
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On 2017-11-02 5:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:


>> Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does seem
>> to be overpriced.* IMO it would be over priced if you got the whole
>> loaf for that price.

>
> Agreed!* Even if you personally grind the best cuts of beef, veal and
> pork to make a meatloaf, it wouldn't cost $24.* Ed is right, people who
> order it must be paying for the overall ambiance.* Either that or, as
> lucretia suggested, the diners don't know how to make meatloaf so
> they're willing to pay that much.



I guess the pasta and ragu ranks up there with the meatloaf for being
over-priced. It is curious that they are so expensive, considering that
there is a $14 burger. Then there is the polenta cake..... grits with
red sauce and a bit of ricotta for $22.
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On 11/2/2017 3:53 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> Casa de los peregrinos was thinking very hard :
>> On 11/2/2017 3:24 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:10:49 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:29:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>>>>
>>>>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
>>>>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I
>>>>> just
>>>>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24.* Most family restaurants are
>>>>> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better.* It has
>>>>> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there.* .
>>>>
>>>> The meatloaf shouldn't be $10 more than the mussels, and only ~10%
>>>> less than the other fish/shellfish entrees.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> I'd not patronize any US restaurant that doesn't know to use dollar
>>> sign$... took me a few moments to figure those stand alone numbers
>>> weren't how many servings... those numbers lacking ddollar signs tell
>>> me from teh get-go that the joint is smarmy.

>>
>> Oh good grief!
>>
>> It's pretty much standard notation in any upscale menu now, get with
>> today!
>>
>>> Restaurant meat loaf dinner should never be more than $8... Blue Plate
>>> Special = Meat Loaf, Mashed w/Gravy, Buttered Veg in Season...
>>> Bread/Butter.

>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> There's fancy schmancy meat loaf that may cost more
>>> (terrines), but typical meat loaf should cost less than a mystery meat
>>> burger... restaurant meat loaf is salvaged mystery meat (plate
>>> scrapings) with lots of bread crumb filler.

>>
>> No...it's not "plate scrapings"!
>>
>> Good grief!
>>
>>> Hmmm, their swordfish plate is a total rip off at thirty bucks...
>>> fresh caught (never frozen) on Lung Guyland would cost half that.

>>
>> The YOU know where to go, right?
>>

> wertz forgery


yes steve, you forged again.


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On 11/2/2017 5:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-11-02 5:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/2/2017 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
>>> Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does
>>> seem to be overpriced.* IMO it would be over priced if you got the
>>> whole loaf for that price.

>>
>> Agreed!* Even if you personally grind the best cuts of beef, veal and
>> pork to make a meatloaf, it wouldn't cost $24.* Ed is right, people
>> who order it must be paying for the overall ambiance.* Either that or,
>> as lucretia suggested, the diners don't know how to make meatloaf so
>> they're willing to pay that much.

>
>
> I guess the pasta and ragu ranks up there with the meatloaf for being
> over-priced. It is curious that they are so expensive, considering that
> there is a $14 burger.* Then there is the polenta cake..... grits with
> red sauce and a bit of ricotta for $22.


I noted the price of the polenta cake in another reply! Polenta is not
exactly the same as grits but I'll let that slide.

Jill
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On 2017-11-02 6:10 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 5:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-11-02 5:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/2/2017 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>>>> Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does
>>>> seem to be overpriced.* IMO it would be over priced if you got the
>>>> whole loaf for that price.
>>>
>>> Agreed!* Even if you personally grind the best cuts of beef, veal and
>>> pork to make a meatloaf, it wouldn't cost $24.* Ed is right, people
>>> who order it must be paying for the overall ambiance.* Either that
>>> or, as lucretia suggested, the diners don't know how to make meatloaf
>>> so they're willing to pay that much.

>>
>>
>> I guess the pasta and ragu ranks up there with the meatloaf for being
>> over-priced. It is curious that they are so expensive, considering
>> that there is a $14 burger.* Then there is the polenta cake..... grits
>> with red sauce and a bit of ricotta for $22.

>
> I noted the price of the polenta cake in another reply!* Polenta is not
> exactly the same as grits but I'll let that slide.


Not exactly the same, but not a heck of a lot different. It is corn meal
mush ...porridge. I doubt that they spend the time cooking and
stirring for each serving. Calling it "cake" suggested that it is
pre-cooked and then cooled in a pan and heated up to order. It is way
over-priced.

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On 11/2/2017 6:35 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-11-02 6:10 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/2/2017 5:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-02 5:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/2/2017 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does
>>>>> seem to be overpriced.* IMO it would be over priced if you got the
>>>>> whole loaf for that price.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed!* Even if you personally grind the best cuts of beef, veal
>>>> and pork to make a meatloaf, it wouldn't cost $24.* Ed is right,
>>>> people who order it must be paying for the overall ambiance.* Either
>>>> that or, as lucretia suggested, the diners don't know how to make
>>>> meatloaf so they're willing to pay that much.
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess the pasta and ragu ranks up there with the meatloaf for being
>>> over-priced. It is curious that they are so expensive, considering
>>> that there is a $14 burger.* Then there is the polenta cake.....
>>> grits with red sauce and a bit of ricotta for $22.

>>
>> I noted the price of the polenta cake in another reply!* Polenta is
>> not exactly the same as grits but I'll let that slide.

>
> Not exactly the same, but not a heck of a lot different. It is corn meal
> *mush ...porridge.* I doubt that they spend the time cooking and
> stirring for* each serving. Calling it "cake" suggested that it is
> pre-cooked and then cooled in a pan and heated up to order. It is way
> over-priced.
>

Yes, it's way over priced. And yes, it's chilled and sliced cornmeal
mush, likely pan fried. I can buy polenta in one pound "chubs" (like
ground sausage) in the freezer section. All I'd have to do for polenta
cakes is thaw, slice and fry it. It certainly doesn't cost $22.

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>On 11/2/2017 6:35 PM, Dave Smith wrote:


>> Not exactly the same, but not a heck of a lot different. It is corn meal
>> mush ...porridge.* I doubt that they spend the time cooking and
>> stirring for* each serving. Calling it "cake" suggested that it is
>> pre-cooked and then cooled in a pan and heated up to order. It is way
>> over-priced.
>>

>Yes, it's way over priced. And yes, it's chilled and sliced cornmeal
>mush, likely pan fried. I can buy polenta in one pound "chubs" (like
>ground sausage) in the freezer section. All I'd have to do for polenta
>cakes is thaw, slice and fry it. It certainly doesn't cost $22.


Of course it's nonsense to compare restaurant prices to what the
ingredients would cost if you'd cook them yourself.
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On 11/2/2017 5:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>

> No.* Ed, if you do try the meatloaf please report back.
>
>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The other
>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>
>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>

> That's an interesting menu.* They call their onion soup "German Onion"
> but it's just a twist on classic French Onion.
>
> There was recently a discussion here about sharing food.* Hey, their
> appetizers are listed as "Share Plates".* Would you need to request a
> separate plate in order to share?* Hmmmm.
>
> What else is $24?* KENTUCKY CHICKEN* All natural Statler breast, savory
> dry rub, southern style Ivory bar-b-q sauce, stuffed sweet potato,
> native corn pudding.
>
> Okay, I've never heard of "southern style Ivory Bar-b-q sauce".* Ivory?
> As in, white sauce?* I wonder what the sweet potato is stuffed with?
> Inquiring minds want to know.* Heheh.
>
> A better question might be would you pay $22 for a "polenta cake"?!* I
> don't care how good the roasted vegetables and marinara sauce are...
> that's way over the top for fried cornmeal.
>
> Jill


There is a variation of Alabama sauce from Big Bob Gibson. I found this
https://lillies-q.myshopify.com/products/ivory

The sweet and tangy Northern Alabama original. We add a pinch of cayenne
to this traditional white barbeque sauce, making IVORY just right for
everything from chicken to fries.

And for Bruce:
ALL NATURAL INGREDIENTS:
Soybean oil, filtered water, cider vinegar, distilled vinegar, egg yolk,
sugar, salt, rosemary extract, lemon juice, lime juice, and natural spices.



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> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>
> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>
> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>
> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are closer
> to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has my
> curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .



Some people have more money than sense if they pay 24.00 for meat loaf, but
not my money, so no problem.

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On 11/2/2017 8:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 5:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/2/2017 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>>

>> No.* Ed, if you do try the meatloaf please report back.
>>
>>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet.* The
>>> other night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>>
>>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>>

>> That's an interesting menu.* They call their onion soup "German Onion"
>> but it's just a twist on classic French Onion.
>>
>> There was recently a discussion here about sharing food.* Hey, their
>> appetizers are listed as "Share Plates".* Would you need to request a
>> separate plate in order to share?* Hmmmm.
>>
>> What else is $24?* KENTUCKY CHICKEN* All natural Statler breast,
>> savory dry rub, southern style Ivory bar-b-q sauce, stuffed sweet
>> potato, native corn pudding.
>>
>> Okay, I've never heard of "southern style Ivory Bar-b-q sauce".
>> Ivory? As in, white sauce?* I wonder what the sweet potato is stuffed
>> with? Inquiring minds want to know.* Heheh.
>>
> > Jill

>
> There is a variation of Alabama sauce from Big Bob Gibson.* I found this
> https://lillies-q.myshopify.com/products/ivory
>
> The sweet and tangy Northern Alabama original. We add a pinch of cayenne
> to this traditional white barbeque sauce, making IVORY just right for
> everything from chicken to fries.
>

That's the first I've ever heard of white barbeque sauce. Then again,
I've never looked for barbeque in Alabama. LOL I wonder why this
restaurant calls it Kentucky chicken? It's a strange concept at any
rate. Dry rub (I presume not just S&P) *and* barbeque sauce? I find
that odd.

> And for Bruce:
> ALL NATURAL INGREDIENTS:
> Soybean oil, filtered water, cider vinegar, distilled vinegar, egg yolk,
> sugar, salt, rosemary extract, lemon juice, lime juice, and natural spices.
>

LOL But what exactly are those "natural spices"?

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On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 9:29:09 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>
> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>
> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>
> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are
> closer to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has
> my curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .


My guess is that you're going to try it and you'll think that it's just very good meatloaf - also that it's not worth $24. You will still be in the black because the time you'll save by not having to wonder about it will be worth a whole lot more than $24.

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> On 11/2/2017 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>

> No. Ed, if you do try the meatloaf please report back.
>
>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>
>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>

> That's an interesting menu. They call their onion soup "German Onion" but
> it's just a twist on classic French Onion.
>
> There was recently a discussion here about sharing food. Hey, their
> appetizers are listed as "Share Plates". Would you need to request a
> separate plate in order to share? Hmmmm.


Most places that list food that way will provide each dinner with a little
plate whether they want it or not.

> What else is $24? KENTUCKY CHICKEN All natural Statler breast, savory
> dry rub, southern style Ivory bar-b-q sauce, stuffed sweet potato, native
> corn pudding.
>
> Okay, I've never heard of "southern style Ivory Bar-b-q sauce". Ivory? As
> in, white sauce? I wonder what the sweet potato is stuffed with?
> Inquiring minds want to know. Heheh.
>
> A better question might be would you pay $22 for a "polenta cake"?! I
> don't care how good the roasted vegetables and marinara sauce are...
> that's way over the top for fried cornmeal.


Yep.

I went to a graduation party some years ago at a restaurant at a fancy
hotel. The host made a big deal about the butter lettuce salad and said we
should all try it. In those days, the only lettuce commonly available in
grocery stores here was iceberg or Romaine. I was also familiar with leaf
having grown it in my garden. Yes, the butter lettuce was good but that was
literally the only thing on the plate unless you had dressing, which I
didn't. Not even so much as a tiny tomato or ring of onion. Very overpriced!

Now you can get butter lettuce most anywhere. Every time I see a head, I
think of that puny but fancy plate with what amounted to less than 1/4 of a
head of lettuce on it. No thanks.

Tonight we are having chicken and noodles with a salad on the side. For some
reason I found a bag of Woo Hoo Italian at Fred Meyers for 99 cents. Woo Hoo
= what some here would called "used". AKA marked down. I also added black
olives, cubes of Kerrigold Dublinger cheese, two chopped tomatoes and just
before serving will add a goodly handful of pecans or walnuts, whichever my
hand happens to grab first. Granted it's not butter lettuce but this salad
will be even better and each plate of it will cost far less than the salad
at that restaurant.

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 18:35:20 -0400, Dave Smith
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>On 2017-11-02 6:10 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/2/2017 5:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-02 5:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/2/2017 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Most of the other choices look reasonable, but that meatloaf does
>>>>> seem to be overpriced.* IMO it would be over priced if you got the
>>>>> whole loaf for that price.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed!* Even if you personally grind the best cuts of beef, veal and
>>>> pork to make a meatloaf, it wouldn't cost $24.* Ed is right, people
>>>> who order it must be paying for the overall ambiance.* Either that
>>>> or, as lucretia suggested, the diners don't know how to make meatloaf
>>>> so they're willing to pay that much.
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess the pasta and ragu ranks up there with the meatloaf for being
>>> over-priced. It is curious that they are so expensive, considering
>>> that there is a $14 burger.* Then there is the polenta cake..... grits
>>> with red sauce and a bit of ricotta for $22.

>>
>> I noted the price of the polenta cake in another reply!* Polenta is not
>> exactly the same as grits but I'll let that slide.

>
>Not exactly the same, but not a heck of a lot different. It is corn meal
> mush ...porridge. I doubt that they spend the time cooking and
>stirring for each serving. Calling it "cake" suggested that it is
>pre-cooked and then cooled in a pan and heated up to order. It is way
>over-priced.


Extremely over priced for a side in place of home fries with bacon and
eggs at any southern diner, for about five bucks... including
bottomless coffee.
Aboard ship I cdooked tons of grits, served right out of the pot or
cooled, cut into squares and fried or cooked on a large sheet pan in
the oven. The US military has a far greater proportion of southerners
than northerners, especially the Navy. Northerners didn't eat grits,
they ate home fries. Southerners ate everything... not anything...
EVERYTHING! Southerners ate like they never saw food before and like
every meal was their last... especially once they learned that
spaghetti wasn't worms. Most southerners never saw speghetti
previously... many southerners could polish off two pounds of
spaghetti, that is pre cooking weight... I shit you not (Navy speak).
Typical nautical nomenclature reserved for when describing *the best
pussy*.
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On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 10:36:24 +1100, Bruce >
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>On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:05:29 -0400, jmcquown >
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>
>>On 11/2/2017 6:35 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
>>> Not exactly the same, but not a heck of a lot different. It is corn meal
>>> mush ...porridge.* I doubt that they spend the time cooking and
>>> stirring for* each serving. Calling it "cake" suggested that it is
>>> pre-cooked and then cooled in a pan and heated up to order. It is way
>>> over-priced.
>>>

>>Yes, it's way over priced. And yes, it's chilled and sliced cornmeal
>>mush, likely pan fried. I can buy polenta in one pound "chubs" (like
>>ground sausage) in the freezer section. All I'd have to do for polenta
>>cakes is thaw, slice and fry it. It certainly doesn't cost $22.

>
>Of course it's nonsense to compare restaurant prices to what the
>ingredients would cost if you'd cook them yourself.


But still, $22 for corn meal mush is beyond outrageous. Most greasy
spoons would serve a huge portion of grits with the $4.99 breakfast
special; 2 over easy, 2 sausage/bacon, toast, bottomless cawfee...
served by a zoftig gal reminding guys that their wives cheated them
out of what to do with their morning wood.


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On 2017-11-02 7:36 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:05:29 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>


>> Yes, it's way over priced. And yes, it's chilled and sliced cornmeal
>> mush, likely pan fried. I can buy polenta in one pound "chubs" (like
>> ground sausage) in the freezer section. All I'd have to do for polenta
>> cakes is thaw, slice and fry it. It certainly doesn't cost $22.

>
> Of course it's nonsense to compare restaurant prices to what the
> ingredients would cost if you'd cook them yourself.



We all know that the price of ingredients is not the only factor in the
cost of menu items. Aside from rent, taxes, insurance, utilities, labour
is a major factor. We were talking about meatloaf and polenta, which
involve cheap ingredients and minimal labour. These two dishes appear
to have much higher markups than some of the other dishes.


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On 2017-11-02 9:51 PM, Doris Night wrote:
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> > wrote:


>> Veal should not affect the price much. I haven't seen straight ground
>> veal for sale on its own, but a couple places sell a pre mixed triple
>> mix of beef, pork and veal, and some sell packages with the three side
>> by side in a pack, and it is not much more than hamburger.

>
> I can no longer get the beef/pork/veal mixture here. They used to sell
> it at Metro, but the butcher now advises me that it never sold well,
> and they ended up having to throw it out.
>
> But Metro *does* sell ground veal alone. It's about the same price as
> hamburger. Problem is, if you are making meatloaf, you end up with
> three times as much meat as you need.
>


No problem. Make a huge meatloaf. It's one thing that makes great
leftovers. If it is an especially good one it will make good sandwiches.
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 17:23:33 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>> Would you pay $24 for a meatloaf dinner?
>>
>> A new restaurant opened in town and we've not tried it yet. The other
>> night I checked out the menu and found they have meatloaf for $24.
>>
>> http://www.elizabethsfarmhouse.com/dinner.html
>>
>> I'm sure it would be good, the restaurant itself up up scale, but I just
>> cannot think of a meatloaf being $24. Most family restaurants are closer
>> to $10 for average and I expect to pay more for better. It has my
>> curiosity and may just try it if we do go there. .

>
>
>Some people have more money than sense if they pay 24.00 for meat loaf, but
>not my money, so no problem.


To each their own, Cheri. I thought you knew that by now.
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