On 2017-11-10 6:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> In article >, cshenk1
>> @cox.net says...
>>>
>>> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> cshenk1 @cox.net says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
>>>>
>>>> No, that is yet another example of your idiotic
>>>> misrepresentations of who posted what.
>>>>
>>>> Gary has repeatedly said that he loves wjhete he lives and has no
>>>> intention of moving anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>> We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
>>> misread.
>>
>> Desperate, much?
>>
>> I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
>

Could be that it would be much easier if you just admitted you were
wrong instead of digging the hole deeper.

On 11/10/2017 4:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-11-10 6:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> In article >, cshenk1
>>> @cox.net says...
>>>>
>>>> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> cshenk1 @cox.net says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Â*Â* No, that is yet another example of your idiotic
>>>>> misrepresentations of who posted what.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary has repeatedly said that he loves wjhete he lives and has no
>>>>> intention of moving anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Â*Â* Janet UK
>>>>
>>>> We have more than one Gary here.Â* Perhaps it was another or a
>>>> misread.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* Desperate, much?
>>>
>>> Â*Â* I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* Janet UK
>>
>> Could be you killfile more than me.Â* Not sure
>>
>
> Could be that it would be much easier if you just admitted you were
> wrong instead of digging the hole deeper.
>
>

That no happen her.

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cshenk wrote:
>
> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > In article >, cshenk1
> > @cox.net says...
> > >
> > > Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > In article >,
> > > > cshenk1 @cox.net says...
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
> > > >
> > > > No, that is yet another example of your idiotic
> > > > misrepresentations of who posted what.
> > > >
> > > > Gary has repeatedly said that he loves where he lives and has no
> > > > intention of moving anywhere.
> > > >
> > > > Janet UK
> > >
> > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
> > > misread.
> >
> > Desperate, much?
> >
> > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
>
> --

"Space: the final frontier."

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2017 09:21:51 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> You're right, soft shell crab won't be available in February; they have
> >> a very short season (they usually shed their shells around May).
> >
> > You've said that before and you are wrong. During the warm water
> > season - spring to early fall, crabs can molt 2-3 times, plus ALL
> > crabs don't do that on the same day. For at least 5-6 months,
> > crabs are constantly molting. Soft shell crabs are consistantly
> > available as long as the water is warm and they haven't buried
> > themselves in the sand for the winter.
>
> And 98% of soft shell crabs are frozen after they molt and harvested.
> It kills the enzymes that prevent them from hardening up again.

I would guess that 100% of them are immediately put on ice (or
they should be). The only way a soft shell crab can be caught is
to spot one in shallow water and chase it with a hand-held net
and scoop it up. They hide out until new shell hardens and they
can't eat either as the claws are soft mush. Commercial crabbers
never catch soft shell crabs but they do see signs of ones caught
getting ready to molt.

https://www.bluecrab.info/redsign.htm

Those crabs are kept in holding tanks and constantly checked
until they finally do back out of their shells. I've seen that
operation at a place on the Eastern Shore of Virginia several
years ago. Right when they finally get out of old shell, they are
immediately harvested. Not killed but packed in ice. This is
regular ice (vs salt water ice). The cold temp (33-34F) puts them
in hibernation mode plus without the salt water, they don't
harden. So they aren't actually frozen but very close. Packed in
boxes, layered with plenty of ice.

These are what is shipped to restaurants everywhere. And....I
don't know if they pack them in salt water ice to ship, that
would freeze and kill them but still be good. Most shipping
overnight of seafood uses dry ice.

I've caught, picked, and frozen crab meat (in 1/2 pound baggies)
and it's just as good from the freezer 8 months later as it was
fresh picked. Freezing seafood does NOT reduce it's quality. The
Japanese buy frozen on the boat tuna and pay a premium price for
that. Any swordfish you buy was also frozen at sea (immediately
beheaded, gutted, then packed in salt water ice). Alaskan king
crab is kept alive on boats in a hold but the buyers immediately
cook and freeze them. No loss of quality. None at all, Sheldon.

> Also,
> thanks to better living through science, crabs can be triggered to
> molt any time of the year.

I haven't heard about that but I wouldn't be surprised.


> Fresh soft shell crabs have only a couple
> hours from harvest to plate before they're inedible if not frozen.

Try WAY less than a couple of hours. I was crabbing once. While
waiting for bites on the lines, I walked around through the
shallows (12-18 inches deep) and a nice sized crab ran right by
me. I chased it down and scooped it up in my crab net. It had
*just* molted because as I took it out of the net it was
completely soft like handling a piece of raw meat.

That's a very rare catch so I decided to go on home right away
and finally try a soft shell crab. Took me about 45 minutes to
collect my lines and quickly drive home. To cook a soft shell
crab, you just kill it, lift the two pointy ends of the shell and
remove the gills (aka 'dead men'), then fry and eat the whole
body.

Anyway, just in that 'less than an hour' time the crab had
already formed a 'paper shell.' That's the new hard shell
developing. I cooked and ate it, but that paper shell ruined it.
Kind of like eating a piece of good meat still wrapped in thin
cellophane. Nasty texture.

Janet wrote:
> I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.

GT, Janet. I kind of like that name. It definitely fits.
Maybe I'll just use it for awhile and mess up some killfiles.

:-D

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 06:53:41 -0500, Ferret Gary >
wrote:

>Janet wrote:
>> I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>
>GT, Janet. I kind of like that name. It definitely fits.
>Maybe I'll just use it for awhile and mess up some killfiles.
>
> :-D

You just need the ferret now My current cat, had her two years
next month, finally became a lap cat the other day. I was so
surprised but now I wonder what happened to her before she was here
that made her so suspicious of humans. She even peeks out when
friends are here.

In article >, says...
> cshenk wrote:
> > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
> > > > misread.
> > >
> > > Desperate, much?
> > >
> > > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> >
> > Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure


You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.

Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.

Janet UK

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>> cshenk wrote:
>> > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
>> > > > misread.
>> > >
>> > > Desperate, much?
>> > >
>> > > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>> > >
>> > > Janet UK
>> >
>> > Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
>
>
> You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
>
> Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.
>
> Janet UK

Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)

Cheri

On 11/9/2017 5:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-11-09 4:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/9/2017 2:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> Dave is talking about food available in restaurants on Tybee Island
>>>> in *February*.Â* February is not spring no matter where you slice it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It will be for me. I noted that the average Feb. temperature is 62 F,
>>> compared to our average of about 20F.Â* The first time the temperature
>>> hits 40F after Christmas people will go out in T shirts.
>>>
>> Don't count on that average temp.Â* Besides, you're not a soft shell
>> crab.
>>
>
> I have come to grips with the fact that I am not likely to get to try
> soft shell crab. I am counting on a couple days of that average or,
> being an average, maybe it will be a little higher.
>
>
It wasn't as hot this summer (for weeks at a time) as it sometimes is.
You may get that temp in February, you may not. Pack for either/or.

Jill

On 11/10/2017 9:53 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I've seen cooking shows (probably on PBS) where they show the locally
>> caught soft shell crab are still alive when they go into the skillet.
>
> If that's true, those chefs should be shot in the face for
> such cruelty. Better yet, put the chef naked and alive into
> a giant frying pan with oil. **** him. Just because we might
> be top of the food chain doesn't give us a right to do that.
> All living creatures can feel panic and pain.
>
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, just
reporting that's how they've explained it on shows about soft shell crab
prepared in restaurants on the sea islands.

Jill

On 11/9/2017 9:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>>
>>> Meantime my guesses are this: If you don't see okra or grits used in
>>> the menu, you won't get much of the uniqueness of the costal south
>>> on what we eat. LOL, it's not all catfish and crawdads!
>>>
>> Crawdads (crawfish) aren't common here. Catfish is often previously
>> frozen and not found on many menus. I've never seen frozen softshell
>> crab. I don't know why you and Gary think "coastal" means the same
>> thing when you're 500 miles to the north of Tybee Island.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I've lived a few places where crawfish/crawdads were common. Here isnt
> one of them and where you are probably isnt either.
>
> If your menus do not have catfish, it may be where you go because it's
> really common here but as you say, I'm a few hours north of you.

I can find catfish at the supermarket from time to time. They *claim*
it's not previously frozen. If it isn't, it would have to be well iced
and flown in just for the sale. The sea islands aren't catfish country.

Crawfish/crawdads are definitely not native to these islands. I can
find frozen crawfish tail meat which is fine for the rare times I want
it.

> As to
> frozen softshell crabs, they aren't in the supermarket, at least not
> the average ones you'd find where you are. I'm in a bigger city.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?source...d94ngDQ&q=froz
> en+soft+shell+crab&oq=frozen+soft&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0l10.34026648.34031365
> .0.34035840.11.11.0.0.0.0.144.1220.0j10.10.0....0. ..1.1.64.psy-ab..1.10.
> 1215...46j0i131k1j0i46k1.0.pRBodAF7NVI
>
> Or you can get them off Amazon.com.
>
I wouldn't bother. Dave might like to order some, though.

Jill

On 11/10/2017 12:34 PM, Gary wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> says...
>>>
>>> Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
>>
>> No, that is yet another example of your idiotic misrepresentations of
>> who posted what.
>>
>> Gary has repeatedly said that he loves where he lives and has no
>> intention of moving anywhere.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> Yeah...I love the ocean and would have a hard time not living
> near it. The part about my brother getting his PhD from UT-Austin
> was real though. I'm quite proud of him.
>
You have every right to be proud of him. I *knew* you hadn't moved to
Texas!

Jill

On 11/10/2017 1:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> In article >, cshenk1
>> @cox.net says...
>>>
>>> Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
>>
>> No, that is yet another example of your idiotic misrepresentations
>> of who posted what.
>>
>> Gary has repeatedly said that he loves wjhete he lives and has no
>> intention of moving anywhere.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a misread.
>
Really, Carol? The only Gary I know on RFC lives close to Virginia
Beach. Not that it matters. Even if he moved to the Texas gulf coast,
the food wouldn't be the same as what Dave can expect to find on Tybee
Island.

Jill

On 11/10/2017 1:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> You were talking about frozen soft shell crab. Only you. Dave said
>> he knew they wouldn't be fresh in season in February. From that you
>> extrapolated he should be able to find a restaurant that serves
>> frozen soft shell crab. Really and truly, I don't think that's what
>> he wants to buy.
>>
>> Jill
>
> No problem.. I don't know if the softshells are very popular down
> there. They might not be, in which case they'd not order out of season
> frozen either.
>
That was kind of my point. The restaurants down here don't serve frozen
soft shell crab. Only what's caught during the season, around here
usually May, maybe into June. Available for a brief time, then they're
gone. Even then, not every restaurant offers them. They have to have a
good local source.

Jill

On 2017-11-11 5:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/9/2017 5:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I have come to grips with the fact that I am not likely to get to try
>> soft shell crab. I am counting on a couple days of that average or,
>> being an average, maybe it will be a little higher.
>>
>>
> It wasn't as hot this summer (for weeks at a time) as it sometimes is.
> You may get that temp in February, you may not.Â* Pack for either/or.


For more than 40 years my wife and I have been going to September Camp
in Algonquin Park. Minimum stay is 5 days, and we have learned to pack
for 5 days of cold weather and five days of hot weather.

On 11/11/2017 6:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-11-11 5:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/9/2017 5:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> I have come to grips with the fact that I am not likely to get to try
>>> soft shell crab. I am counting on a couple days of that average or,
>>> being an average, maybe it will be a little higher.
>>>
>>>
>> It wasn't as hot this summer (for weeks at a time) as it sometimes is.
>> You may get that temp in February, you may not.Â* Pack for either/or.
>
>
> For more than 40 years my wife and I have been going to September Camp
> in Algonquin Park. MinimumÂ* stay is 5 days, and we have learned to pack
> for 5 days of cold weather and five days of hot weather.
>
There ya go! I'd pack for plus or minus 20 degrees in either direction
(layers).

Jill

On 11/11/2017 3:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> In article >, says...
>>> cshenk wrote:
>>> > > > We have more than one Gary here.* Perhaps it was another or a
>>> > > > misread.
>>> > >
>>> > >** Desperate, much?
>>> > >
>>> > >** I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>>> > >
>>> > >** Janet UK
>>> >
>>> > Could be you killfile more than me.* Not sure
>>
>>
>> *You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
>>
>> *Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
>> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.
>>
>> *Janet UK
>
> Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)
>
> Cheri

Yep, plain ol Gary turned into 'Ferret Gary' just for fun. I can't
think of another Gary who regularly posts to RFC. It doesn't matter if
Carol skims over posts, or what killfiles we might have. I have no idea
what other Gary she's talking about.

Jill

On 11/10/2017 11:53 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Crawdads (crawfish) aren't common here.
>
> They normally live in cold fresh water from streams that flow
> towards sealevel. Not found in coastal/tidal areas. Or rarely.
>
>> I've never seen frozen softshell crab.
>
> And wouldn't ever see that. If previously frozen, they won't tell
> you that.
>
No, but then no one down here would see it on a menu in February, or
October, either. It's simply not offered as a year-round item. Get it?

>> I don't know why you and Gary think "coastal" means the same
>> thing when you're 500 miles to the north of Tybee Island.
>
> Coastal means the same thing no matter where you live.
> Coastal means tidal water and near a coast.
> Ocean or even near a large bay.
>
Stop being obtuse. The food in all the different "coastal" areas is not
the same.

Remember you thought it was odd for me not to be able to find hush
puppies on restaurant menus down here? It's the same thing. They're
just not common. If I see hush puppies on local restaurant I'm
pleasantly surprised. IF he saw frozen soft shell crab on a menu in
February, I'd be amazed. Okay?!

Jill

On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:53:56 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Crawdads (crawfish) aren't common here.
>
>They normally live in cold fresh water from streams that flow
>towards sealevel. Not found in coastal/tidal areas. Or rarely.
>
>> I've never seen frozen softshell crab.
>
>And wouldn't ever see that. If previously frozen, they won't tell
>you that.
>
>> I don't know why you and Gary think "coastal" means the same
>> thing when you're 500 miles to the north of Tybee Island.
>
>Coastal means the same thing no matter where you live.
>Coastal means tidal water and near a coast.
>Ocean or even near a large bay.

There are quite a few things that are available near the Dutch coast,
but not near the Australian coast and vice versa. Different fish and
different shellfish.

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 19:31:19 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 11/11/2017 3:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> In article >, says...
>>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>> > > > We have more than one Gary here.* Perhaps it was another or a
>>>> > > > misread.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >** Desperate, much?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >** I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >** Janet UK
>>>> >
>>>> > Could be you killfile more than me.* Not sure
>>>
>>>
>>> *You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
>>>
>>> *Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
>>> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.
>>>
>>> *Janet UK
>>
>> Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Yep, plain ol Gary turned into 'Ferret Gary' just for fun. I can't
>think of another Gary who regularly posts to RFC. It doesn't matter if
>Carol skims over posts, or what killfiles we might have. I have no idea
>what other Gary she's talking about.

She had her wires crossed. If you're going to try and make her admit
that, I'll pull out the popcorn.

On 11/10/2017 9:25 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 11/10/2017 8:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> The office building where I worked had a cafeteria.Â* The only
>>> thing they served that you knew before you got into the
>>> front door was ... liver's on the menu today.Â* Blech. that
>>> smell.
>>
>> Interesting how so many people here seem to hate liver.
>> I've only had chicken livers but I absolutely love them.
>
> Get back to me after chowing down on a hunk of beef
> liver.
>
>> I don't eat them often but it's always a treat.
>> Thinking about buying some soon. 20oz container
>> and very cheap per pound.
>
> Ii have never had chicken liver but there it is, the 'l'
> word, so I'm not predisposed to try to like it.
>
(snippage)

Believe it or not, I used to buy small chicken livers in small tubs and
fry them for my husband. They were cheap back in 1982. (Yes, folks,
way back at the beginning of time I was married.) I rinsed the chicken
livers, tossed them in seasoned flour, pan fried them. I don't remember
what (if anything) I made to go with them. I never had any desire to
taste them.

I didn't grow up eating this sort of thing. My parents did love calves
liver sauteed with onions but they didn't make us eat it as kids. They
did not cook chicken livers.

I won't cook or eat either one.

Jill

>> Either floured and deep fried, with fries on the plate
>> and maybe some coleslaw...
>> or
>> Sautéed with onions in a frying pan and a gravy
>> somehow made with them. Along with mashed potatoes
>> and chunky applesauce on the plate.
>>
>> either way is a big YUM to me.Â*
>
> More for you!Â* The chef's so called treat on the chicken
> back tastes livery to me, so I don't eat that, either.
>
> nancy

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 11/11/2017 3:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> In article >, says...
>>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>> > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
>>>> > > > misread.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Desperate, much?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Janet UK
>>>> >
>>>> > Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
>>>
>>>
>>> You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
>>>
>>> Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
>>> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Yep, plain ol Gary turned into 'Ferret Gary' just for fun. I can't
> think of another Gary who regularly posts to RFC. It doesn't matter if
> Carol skims over posts, or what killfiles we might have. I have no idea
> what other Gary she's talking about.
>
> Jill


I've never seen another Gary and I've been here a few years now.

Cheri

Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-11-10 4:27 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, cshenk1
> > @cox.net says...
> > >
> > > Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > In article >,
> > > > cshenk1 @cox.net says...
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
> > > >
> >>> No, that is yet another example of your idiotic
> misrepresentations
> > > > of who posted what.
> > > >
> > > > Gary has repeatedly said that he loves wjhete he lives and has
> > > > no intention of moving anywhere.
> > > >
> >>> Janet UK
> > >
> > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
> > > misread.
> >
> > Desperate, much?
> >
> > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
> >
>
> What do you think the chances are that she made a type and instead of
> "Perhaps it was was a another or a misread" and she had meant to
> say "I misread"? Nah. I guess that would look like an
> acknowledgement and that she was wrong. Maybe she can find someone to
> accuse of editing someone else's post.

It was simple. Gary apparently made a joke related to shifting to the
timezone but I don't read every message here, nor do I hang out looking
to accuse others of things. I patch read a few messages of interest
then blow the rest away.

Gary explained it. I caught one of his posts that had I read the rest
of the thread, would have been 'tounge in cheek' but as I'd not seen
the rest, looked like he'd moved.

Seriously, do all of you read every message here? I apologize if it
truely offends any that I do not. I never have and never will read all
the messages here.

--

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> It was simple. Gary apparently made a joke related to shifting to the
> timezone but I don't read every message here, nor do I hang out looking
> to accuse others of things. I patch read a few messages of interest
> then blow the rest away.
>
> Gary explained it. I caught one of his posts that had I read the rest
> of the thread, would have been 'tounge in cheek' but as I'd not seen
> the rest, looked like he'd moved.
>
> Seriously, do all of you read every message here? I apologize if it
> truely offends any that I do not. I never have and never will read all
> the messages here.
>
> --

One must be careful to never release blood into the water. People smell a little blood and it drives them into a frenzy. It's a shark tank here.

On 11/11/2017 8:53 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 2017-11-10 4:27 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, cshenk1
>>> @cox.net says...
>>>>
>>>> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> cshenk1 @cox.net says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, that is yet another example of your idiotic
>> misrepresentations
>>>>> of who posted what.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary has repeatedly said that he loves wjhete he lives and has
>>>>> no intention of moving anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>> We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
>>>> misread.
>>>
>>> Desperate, much?
>>>
>>> I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>>>
>>
>> What do you think the chances are that she made a type and instead of
>> "Perhaps it was was a another or a misread" and she had meant to
>> say "I misread"? Nah. I guess that would look like an
>> acknowledgement and that she was wrong. Maybe she can find someone to
>> accuse of editing someone else's post.
>
> It was simple. Gary apparently made a joke related to shifting to the
> timezone but I don't read every message here, nor do I hang out looking
> to accuse others of things. I patch read a few messages of interest
> then blow the rest away.
>
> Gary explained it. I caught one of his posts that had I read the rest
> of the thread, would have been 'tounge in cheek' but as I'd not seen
> the rest, looked like he'd moved.
>
> Seriously, do all of you read every message here? I apologize if it
> truely offends any that I do not. I never have and never will read all
> the messages here.
>
I don't read every message. I read relevant messages. Dave pinged me.
I knew what Dave was asking about. Somehow you extrapolated from your
skimming through posts that Gary moved to Texas. Among other things.
Sorry, I can't explain it.

Jill

On 2017-11-11 9:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>

> One must be careful to never release blood into the water. People
> smell a little blood and it drives them into a frenzy. It's a shark
> tank here.
>

It is always interesting to see how some of the sharks think they are
the victims.

dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > It was simple. Gary apparently made a joke related to shifting to
> > the timezone but I don't read every message here, nor do I hang out
> > looking to accuse others of things. I patch read a few messages of
> > interest then blow the rest away.
> >
> > Gary explained it. I caught one of his posts that had I read the
> > rest of the thread, would have been 'tounge in cheek' but as I'd
> > not seen the rest, looked like he'd moved.
> >
> > Seriously, do all of you read every message here? I apologize if it
> > truely offends any that I do not. I never have and never will read
> > all the messages here.
> >
> > --
>
> One must be careful to never release blood into the water. People
> smell a little blood and it drives them into a frenzy. It's a shark
> tank here.

LOL, true! Some have no better purpose in life than the feeding frenzy.

--

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 11/11/2017 8:53 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On 2017-11-10 4:27 PM, Janet wrote:
> > > > In article >,
> > > > cshenk1 @cox.net says...
> > > > >
> > > > > Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article >,
> > > > > > cshenk1 @cox.net says...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
> > > > > >
> >>>>> No, that is yet another example of your idiotic
> > > misrepresentations
> > > > > > of who posted what.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary has repeatedly said that he loves wjhete he lives and
> > > > > > has no intention of moving anywhere.
> > > > > >
> >>>>> Janet UK
> > > > >
> > > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
> > > > > misread.
> > > >
> >>> Desperate, much?
> > > >
> >>> I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What do you think the chances are that she made a type and
> > > instead of "Perhaps it was was a another or a misread" and she
> > > had meant to say "I misread"? Nah. I guess that would look like
> > > an acknowledgement and that she was wrong. Maybe she can find
> > > someone to accuse of editing someone else's post.
> >
> > It was simple. Gary apparently made a joke related to shifting to
> > the timezone but I don't read every message here, nor do I hang out
> > looking to accuse others of things. I patch read a few messages of
> > interest then blow the rest away.
> >
> > Gary explained it. I caught one of his posts that had I read the
> > rest of the thread, would have been 'tounge in cheek' but as I'd
> > not seen the rest, looked like he'd moved.
> >
> > Seriously, do all of you read every message here? I apologize if it
> > truely offends any that I do not. I never have and never will read
> > all the messages here.
> >
> I don't read every message. I read relevant messages. Dave pinged
> me. I knew what Dave was asking about. Somehow you extrapolated from
> your skimming through posts that Gary moved to Texas. Among other
> things. Sorry, I can't explain it.
>
> Jill

No problem Jill! I missed a series there apparently on the timezone
change and caught a single one that made it look like he'd moved. Gary
hasn't moved.

--

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:48:19 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 11/11/2017 8:53 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> > > On 2017-11-10 4:27 PM, Janet wrote:
>> > > > In article >,
>> > > > cshenk1 @cox.net says...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > In article >,
>> > > > > > cshenk1 @cox.net says...
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> No, that is yet another example of your idiotic
>> > > misrepresentations
>> > > > > > of who posted what.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Gary has repeatedly said that he loves wjhete he lives and
>> > > > > > has no intention of moving anywhere.
>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> Janet UK
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
>> > > > > misread.
>> > > >
>> >>> Desperate, much?
>> > > >
>> >>> I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > What do you think the chances are that she made a type and
>> > > instead of "Perhaps it was was a another or a misread" and she
>> > > had meant to say "I misread"? Nah. I guess that would look like
>> > > an acknowledgement and that she was wrong. Maybe she can find
>> > > someone to accuse of editing someone else's post.
>> >
>> > It was simple. Gary apparently made a joke related to shifting to
>> > the timezone but I don't read every message here, nor do I hang out
>> > looking to accuse others of things. I patch read a few messages of
>> > interest then blow the rest away.
>> >
>> > Gary explained it. I caught one of his posts that had I read the
>> > rest of the thread, would have been 'tounge in cheek' but as I'd
>> > not seen the rest, looked like he'd moved.
>> >
>> > Seriously, do all of you read every message here? I apologize if it
>> > truely offends any that I do not. I never have and never will read
>> > all the messages here.
>> >
>> I don't read every message. I read relevant messages. Dave pinged
>> me. I knew what Dave was asking about. Somehow you extrapolated from
>> your skimming through posts that Gary moved to Texas. Among other
>> things. Sorry, I can't explain it.
>>
>> Jill
>
>No problem Jill! I missed a series there apparently on the timezone
>change and caught a single one that made it look like he'd moved. Gary
>hasn't moved.

Aren't there 2 Gary's? One in Texas and one in West-Virginia?

Casa de los peregrinos explained :
> On 11/10/2017 12:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> with your background, you probably don't like fish anyway.
>
> Here's what you need:
>
>
>
> O
> <\==- - - - - - - ---
> ./ \ _/\_\O
>
forged.

Casa de los peregrinos submitted this idea :
> On 11/10/2017 11:16 AM, cshenk wrote:
>> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> In article >, cshenk1
>>> @cox.net says...
>>>>
>>>> Actually, didnt Gary just post that he moved to Texas?
>>>
>>> No, that is yet another example of your idiotic misrepresentations
>>> of who posted what.
>>>
>>> Gary has repeatedly said that he loves wjhete he lives and has no
>>> intention of moving anywhere.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a misread.
>>
>
> This is you getting caught in a misread again.
>
> It was Gary majors, - not some other Gary, and you missed his humor.
>
forged.

In article >, says...
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:40:53 -0800
> Subject: ping Jill.... southern foods
> From: Cheri >
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
> > On 11/11/2017 3:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >> "Janet" > wrote in message
> >> .. .
> >>> In article >, says...
> >>>> cshenk wrote:
> >>>> > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
> >>>> > > > misread.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Desperate, much?
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Janet UK
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
> >>> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.
> >>>
> >>> Janet UK
> >>
> >> Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > Yep, plain ol Gary turned into 'Ferret Gary' just for fun. I can't
> > think of another Gary who regularly posts to RFC. It doesn't matter if
> > Carol skims over posts, or what killfiles we might have. I have no idea
> > what other Gary she's talking about.
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> I've never seen another Gary and I've been here a few years now.
>
Exactly. Now you're trying to save face by wiping off the egg you
got on it.

Carol misread (as she very frequently does). When her error was
corrected, she tried to cover it up with a blindingly obvious and stupid
lie (as she so often does) blaming someone (anyone) else.

Dumb Cheri tried to jump on board Carols bandwagon (as she so often
does) fell off clumsily (as usual) and dug the Shenk grave a little
deeper without realising it (as usual).

Situation normal.

Janet UK

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:40:53 -0800
>> Subject: ping Jill.... southern foods
>> From: Cheri >
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On 11/11/2017 3:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> >> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> >> .. .
>> >>> In article >, says...
>> >>>> cshenk wrote:
>> >>>> > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
>> >>>> > > > misread.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Desperate, much?
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Janet UK
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
>> >>> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.
>> >>>
>> >>> Janet UK
>> >>
>> >> Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Cheri
>> >
>> > Yep, plain ol Gary turned into 'Ferret Gary' just for fun. I can't
>> > think of another Gary who regularly posts to RFC. It doesn't matter if
>> > Carol skims over posts, or what killfiles we might have. I have no
>> > idea
>> > what other Gary she's talking about.
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>>
>> I've never seen another Gary and I've been here a few years now.
>>
> Exactly. Now you're trying to save face by wiping off the egg you
> got on it.
>
> Carol misread (as she very frequently does). When her error was
> corrected, she tried to cover it up with a blindingly obvious and stupid
> lie (as she so often does) blaming someone (anyone) else.
>
> Dumb Cheri tried to jump on board Carols bandwagon (as she so often
> does) fell off clumsily (as usual) and dug the Shenk grave a little
> deeper without realising it (as usual).
>
> Situation normal.
>
> Janet UK


What the Hell are you raving about you deluded old woman? I think you must
be messing up as you usually do with your quoting, or maybe you fell off
your "bandwagon" and landed on your head. Get a grip!

Cheri

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:28:27 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Janet" > wrote in message
. ..
>> In article >, says...
>>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>>> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:40:53 -0800
>>> Subject: ping Jill.... southern foods
>>> From: Cheri >
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> news >>> > On 11/11/2017 3:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> >> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> >> .. .
>>> >>> In article >, says...
>>> >>>> cshenk wrote:
>>> >>>> > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
>>> >>>> > > > misread.
>>> >>>> > >
>>> >>>> > > Desperate, much?
>>> >>>> > >
>>> >>>> > > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>>> >>>> > >
>>> >>>> > > Janet UK
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
>>> >>> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Janet UK
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheri
>>> >
>>> > Yep, plain ol Gary turned into 'Ferret Gary' just for fun. I can't
>>> > think of another Gary who regularly posts to RFC. It doesn't matter if
>>> > Carol skims over posts, or what killfiles we might have. I have no
>>> > idea
>>> > what other Gary she's talking about.
>>> >
>>> > Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> I've never seen another Gary and I've been here a few years now.
>>>
>> Exactly. Now you're trying to save face by wiping off the egg you
>> got on it.
>>
>> Carol misread (as she very frequently does). When her error was
>> corrected, she tried to cover it up with a blindingly obvious and stupid
>> lie (as she so often does) blaming someone (anyone) else.
>>
>> Dumb Cheri tried to jump on board Carols bandwagon (as she so often
>> does) fell off clumsily (as usual) and dug the Shenk grave a little
>> deeper without realising it (as usual).
>>
>> Situation normal.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>
>What the Hell are you raving about you deluded old woman? I think you must
>be messing up as you usually do with your quoting, or maybe you fell off
>your "bandwagon" and landed on your head. Get a grip!
>
>Cheri

She needs a good screw so she can relax.

Sheldon wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:28:27 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Janet" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >> In article >, says...
> >>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
> >>> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:40:53 -0800
> >>> Subject: ping Jill.... southern foods
> >>> From: Cheri >
> >>>
> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>> news > >>> > On 11/11/2017 3:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >>> >> "Janet" > wrote in message
> >>> >> .. .
> >>> >>> In article >, says...
> >>> >>>> cshenk wrote:
> >>> >>>> > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
> >>> >>>> > > > misread.
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> > > Desperate, much?
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> > > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> > > Janet UK
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
> >>> >>> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your error.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Janet UK
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cheri
> >>> >
> >>> > Yep, plain ol Gary turned into 'Ferret Gary' just for fun. I can't
> >>> > think of another Gary who regularly posts to RFC. It doesn't matter if
> >>> > Carol skims over posts, or what killfiles we might have. I have no
> >>> > idea
> >>> > what other Gary she's talking about.
> >>> >
> >>> > Jill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've never seen another Gary and I've been here a few years now.
> >>>
> >> Exactly. Now you're trying to save face by wiping off the egg you
> >> got on it.
> >>
> >> Carol misread (as she very frequently does). When her error was
> >> corrected, she tried to cover it up with a blindingly obvious and stupid
> >> lie (as she so often does) blaming someone (anyone) else.
> >>
> >> Dumb Cheri tried to jump on board Carols bandwagon (as she so often
> >> does) fell off clumsily (as usual) and dug the Shenk grave a little
> >> deeper without realising it (as usual).
> >>
> >> Situation normal.
> >>
> >> Janet UK
> >
> >
> >What the Hell are you raving about you deluded old woman? I think you must
> >be messing up as you usually do with your quoting, or maybe you fell off
> >your "bandwagon" and landed on your head. Get a grip!
> >
> >Cheri
>
> She needs a good screw so she can relax.


Quoth Shakespea "The noisome old shrew needs a merry screw"


--
Best
Greg

On 11/11/2017 8:53 PM, cshenk wrote:

>
> Seriously, do all of you read every message here? I apologize if it
> truely offends any that I do not. I never have and never will read all
> the messages here.
>

Not me. Some threads are of no interest, but I may take a peek on the
long running ones. With thread drift it may turn into something of
interest.

No kill file on this group either. OTOH,I just don't get some of the
squabbling that goes on but no one can change it, you have to change
yourself. Simple rule from a quote I heard. "Don't try to be better
than someone else, try to be better than yourself".

wrote:
>
> You just need the ferret now

This will come to pass when the time is right.
http://i59.tinypic.com/vgrmme.jpg

Bruce wrote:
>
> There could be 2 Ferret Gary's:
> <http://contentdesigned.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/SCHICK-FREE-YOUR-SKIN-CAMPAIGN-BY-YR-.jpg>

That was a bit disturbing, Bruce. lol
Luckily for me, I'm not a "Beard Ferret Gary."

I'm more of a "Sleeve Ferret Gary.
http://www.hostpic.org/images/1711122058200103.jpg

Or a "Hooded Sweatshirt Ferret Gary."
http://www.hostpic.org/images/1711122055210087.jpg

> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:28:27 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Janet" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>>>> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 17:40:53 -0800
>>>> Subject: ping Jill.... southern foods
>>>> From: Cheri >
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>> > On 11/11/2017 3:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> >> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>> >> .. .
>>>> >>> In article >, says...
>>>> >>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>> >>>> > > > We have more than one Gary here. Perhaps it was another or a
>>>> >>>> > > > misread.
>>>> >>>> > >
>>>> >>>> > > Desperate, much?
>>>> >>>> > >
>>>> >>>> > > I've never seen another Gary here, just Ferret Gary.
>>>> >>>> > >
>>>> >>>> > > Janet UK
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > Could be you killfile more than me. Not sure
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> You're the one claiming there's more than one Gary here.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Maybe now you'd like to either produce evidence of any other Gary
>>>> >>> poster in rfc , or admit you made it up rather than admit your
>>>> >>> error.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Janet UK
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well, now there's Ferret Gary and just plain ol Gary. ;-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cheri
>>>> >
>>>> > Yep, plain ol Gary turned into 'Ferret Gary' just for fun. I can't
>>>> > think of another Gary who regularly posts to RFC. It doesn't matter
>>>> > if
>>>> > Carol skims over posts, or what killfiles we might have. I have no
>>>> > idea
>>>> > what other Gary she's talking about.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've never seen another Gary and I've been here a few years now.
>>>>
>>> Exactly. Now you're trying to save face by wiping off the egg you
>>> got on it.
>>>
>>> Carol misread (as she very frequently does). When her error was
>>> corrected, she tried to cover it up with a blindingly obvious and stupid
>>> lie (as she so often does) blaming someone (anyone) else.
>>>
>>> Dumb Cheri tried to jump on board Carols bandwagon (as she so often
>>> does) fell off clumsily (as usual) and dug the Shenk grave a little
>>> deeper without realising it (as usual).
>>>
>>> Situation normal.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>>
>>What the Hell are you raving about you deluded old woman? I think you must
>>be messing up as you usually do with your quoting, or maybe you fell off
>>your "bandwagon" and landed on your head. Get a grip!
>>
>>Cheri
>
> She needs a good screw so she can relax.


I don't think I even commented in the "Gary" controversy thread except with
a joke to Jill, so I have no idea what she's talking about, but then that's
not unusual with her misquoting either.

Cheri