Okay...why would they do a crowdfunding for an autopsy, would not an autopsy be an "automatic" thing in this case...???

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/09...ed-cheese.html

"New York City school shut down when toddler dies after eating grilled cheese

A school in New York City on Wednesday shut down after a 3-year-old boy, severely allergic to dairy, died after eating a grilled cheese sandwich, reports said.

Elijah Silvera died on Nov. 3 after he went into anaphylactic shock from eating a grilled cheese at the Seventh Avenue Center for Family Services in Harlem, The Daily News reported. He was rushed to the Harlem Hospital pediatric emergency room where he died.

Silvera was served the sandwich €œdespite them [the school] knowing and having documented that he has a severe allergy to dairy,€� according to a GoFundMe page. The New York City Health Department released a statement late Wednesday that the school will remain close as the investigation continues, Fox 8 reported.

"There is nothing more important than the safety of our children and we are deeply saddened by this tragedy. We will get to the bottom of what happened here. In the meantime, were closing the Center for Family Services and continuing to aggressively investigate what happened and whether the facility could have done something differently to prevent this tragedy," the statement read.

Silveras GoFundMe page has raised nearly $18,500 and will go towards an independent autopsy report..."

On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 8:29:39 AM UTC-5, Ding - Dong Daddy wrote:
> Okay...why would they do a crowdfunding for an autopsy, would not an autopsy be an "automatic" thing in this case...???

Not necessarily. ME budgets are pretty tight. A kid who's
know to be fatally allergic to dairy, eats a grilled cheese
sandwich and dies isn't very high up the list. They're going
to spend the money on corpses where there's something to be
learned from an autopsy.

My brother-in-law died in his sleep at age 54 in Thibodaux, LA.
They didn't do a full autopsy, just analyzed his blood and said,
"Looks like a heart attack".

The aftermarket autopsy might come in handy during the legal
proceedings.

Cindy Hamilton

> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/09...ed-cheese.html
>
> "New York City school shut down when toddler dies after eating grilled cheese
>
> A school in New York City on Wednesday shut down after a 3-year-old boy, severely allergic to dairy, died after eating a grilled cheese sandwich, reports said.
>
> Elijah Silvera died on Nov. 3 after he went into anaphylactic shock from eating a grilled cheese at the Seventh Avenue Center for Family Services in Harlem, The Daily News reported. He was rushed to the Harlem Hospital pediatric emergency room where he died.
>
> Silvera was served the sandwich €œdespite them [the school] knowing and having documented that he has a severe allergy to dairy,€� according to a GoFundMe page. The New York City Health Department released a statement late Wednesday that the school will remain close as the investigation continues, Fox 8 reported.
>
> "There is nothing more important than the safety of our children and we are deeply saddened by this tragedy. We will get to the bottom of what happened here. In the meantime, were closing the Center for Family Services and continuing to aggressively investigate what happened and whether the facility could have done something differently to prevent this tragedy," the statement read.
>
> Silveras GoFundMe page has raised nearly $18,500 and will go towards an independent autopsy report..."

Ding - Dong Daddy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Okay...why would they do a crowdfunding for an autopsy, would not an
> autopsy be an "automatic" thing in this case...???
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/09...l-shut-down-af
> ter-toddler-dies-after-eating-grilled-cheese.html
>
> "New York City school shut down when toddler dies after eating
> grilled cheese
>
> A school in New York City on Wednesday shut down after a 3-year-old
> boy, severely allergic to dairy, died after eating a grilled cheese
> sandwich, reports said.
>
> Elijah Silvera died on Nov. 3 after he went into anaphylactic shock
> from eating a grilled cheese at the Seventh Avenue Center for Family
> Services in Harlem, The Daily News reported. He was rushed to the
> Harlem Hospital pediatric emergency room where he died.
>
> Silvera was served the sandwich €œdespite them [the school] knowing
> and having documented that he has a severe allergy to dairy,€�
> according to a GoFundMe page. The New York City Health Department
> released a statement late Wednesday that the school will remain close
> as the investigation continues, Fox 8 reported.
>
> "There is nothing more important than the safety of our children and
> we are deeply saddened by this tragedy. We will get to the bottom of
> what happened here. In the meantime, were closing the Center for
> Family Services and continuing to aggressively investigate what
> happened and whether the facility could have done something
> differently to prevent this tragedy," the statement read.
>
> Silveras GoFundMe page has raised nearly $18,500 and will go
> towards an independent autopsy report..."

I was not aware that a cheese allergy could be that severe. I've not
heard of it before. Nuts sometimes, yes, but not cheese or dairy.

--

On 11/9/2017 4:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Ding - Dong Daddy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Okay...why would they do a crowdfunding for an autopsy, would not an
>> autopsy be an "automatic" thing in this case...???
>>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/09...l-shut-down-af
>> ter-toddler-dies-after-eating-grilled-cheese.html
>>
>> "New York City school shut down when toddler dies after eating
>> grilled cheese
>>
>> A school in New York City on Wednesday shut down after a 3-year-old
>> boy, severely allergic to dairy, died after eating a grilled cheese
>> sandwich, reports said.
>>
>> Elijah Silvera died on Nov. 3 after he went into anaphylactic shock
>> from eating a grilled cheese at the Seventh Avenue Center for Family
>> Services in Harlem, The Daily News reported. He was rushed to the
>> Harlem Hospital pediatric emergency room where he died.
>>
>> Silvera was served the sandwich €œdespite them [the school] knowing
>> and having documented that he has a severe allergy to dairy,€�
>> according to a GoFundMe page. The New York City Health Department
>> released a statement late Wednesday that the school will remain close
>> as the investigation continues, Fox 8 reported.
>>
>> "There is nothing more important than the safety of our children and
>> we are deeply saddened by this tragedy. We will get to the bottom of
>> what happened here. In the meantime, were closing the Center for
>> Family Services and continuing to aggressively investigate what
>> happened and whether the facility could have done something
>> differently to prevent this tragedy," the statement read.
>>
>> Silveras GoFundMe page has raised nearly $18,500 and will go
>> towards an independent autopsy report..."
>
> I was not aware that a cheese allergy could be that severe. I've not
> heard of it before. Nuts sometimes, yes, but not cheese or dairy.
>

Note the term "independent" autopsy. There may have been one done by
the hospital or local medical examiner but they may want an independent
opinion so they can sue everyone involved.

What is sad, good chance someone knew he was allergic to dairy so they
made sure not to give a glass of milk with the grilled cheese.

In article >, Ed Pawlowski >
wrote:

> On 11/9/2017 4:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Ding - Dong Daddy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> Okay...why would they do a crowdfunding for an autopsy, would not an
> >> autopsy be an "automatic" thing in this case...???
> >>
> >> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/09...l-shut-down-af
> >> ter-toddler-dies-after-eating-grilled-cheese.html
> >>
> >> "New York City school shut down when toddler dies after eating
> >> grilled cheese
> >>
> >> A school in New York City on Wednesday shut down after a 3-year-old
> >> boy, severely allergic to dairy, died after eating a grilled cheese
> >> sandwich, reports said.
> >>
> >> Elijah Silvera died on Nov. 3 after he went into anaphylactic shock
> >> from eating a grilled cheese at the Seventh Avenue Center for Family
> >> Services in Harlem, The Daily News reported. He was rushed to the
> >> Harlem Hospital pediatric emergency room where he died.
> >>
> >> Silvera was served the sandwich €œdespite them [the school] knowing
> >> and having documented that he has a severe allergy to dairy,€�
> >> according to a GoFundMe page. The New York City Health Department
> >> released a statement late Wednesday that the school will remain close
> >> as the investigation continues, Fox 8 reported.
> >>
> >> "There is nothing more important than the safety of our children and
> >> we are deeply saddened by this tragedy. We will get to the bottom of
> >> what happened here. In the meantime, were closing the Center for
> >> Family Services and continuing to aggressively investigate what
> >> happened and whether the facility could have done something
> >> differently to prevent this tragedy," the statement read.
> >>
> >> Silveras GoFundMe page has raised nearly $18,500 and will go
> >> towards an independent autopsy report..."
> >
> > I was not aware that a cheese allergy could be that severe. I've not
> > heard of it before. Nuts sometimes, yes, but not cheese or dairy.
> >
>
> Note the term "independent" autopsy. There may have been one done by
> the hospital or local medical examiner but they may want an independent
> opinion so they can sue everyone involved.
>
> What is sad, good chance someone knew he was allergic to dairy so they
> made sure not to give a glass of milk with the grilled cheese.

Like when Jaden Smith ordered Ricotta Pancakes and claimed the hotel
tried to kill him by lacing them with cheese.

--

"Ding - Dong Daddy" > wrote in message
...
Okay...why would they do a crowdfunding for an autopsy, would not an autopsy
be an "automatic" thing in this case...???

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/09...ed-cheese.html

"New York City school shut down when toddler dies after eating grilled
cheese

A school in New York City on Wednesday shut down after a 3-year-old boy,
severely allergic to dairy, died after eating a grilled cheese sandwich,
reports said.

Elijah Silvera died on Nov. 3 after he went into anaphylactic shock from
eating a grilled cheese at the Seventh Avenue Center for Family Services in
Harlem, The Daily News reported. He was rushed to the Harlem Hospital
pediatric emergency room where he died.

Silvera was served the sandwich €œdespite them [the school] knowing and
having documented that he has a severe allergy to dairy,€� according to a
GoFundMe page. The New York City Health Department released a statement late
Wednesday that the school will remain close as the investigation continues,
Fox 8 reported.

"There is nothing more important than the safety of our children and we are
deeply saddened by this tragedy. We will get to the bottom of what happened
here. In the meantime, were closing the Center for Family Services and
continuing to aggressively investigate what happened and whether the
facility could have done something differently to prevent this tragedy," the
statement read.

Silveras GoFundMe page has raised nearly $18,500 and will go towards an
independent autopsy report..."

---

I heard of this on the radio. Just my opinion but a kid that young with a
life threatening allergy should not be in daycare at all. Life threatening
means that if another kid spilled some milk or even ate cheese then touched
something the allergic kid might touch, the kid could die. Older kids should
know enough to take precautions.

A teen died in this area due to cross contamination at a school cafeteria.
She too had a dairy allergy. School served some kind of fried potatoes. One
with cheese, one without. They used the tongs from the cheese potatoes on
the non-cheese. That's all it took. Again, my opinion but kids like this
should bring lunch from home. Much safer.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Ding - Dong Daddy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Okay...why would they do a crowdfunding for an autopsy, would not an
>> autopsy be an "automatic" thing in this case...???
>>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/09...l-shut-down-af
>> ter-toddler-dies-after-eating-grilled-cheese.html
>>
>> "New York City school shut down when toddler dies after eating
>> grilled cheese
>>
>> A school in New York City on Wednesday shut down after a 3-year-old
>> boy, severely allergic to dairy, died after eating a grilled cheese
>> sandwich, reports said.
>>
>> Elijah Silvera died on Nov. 3 after he went into anaphylactic shock
>> from eating a grilled cheese at the Seventh Avenue Center for Family
>> Services in Harlem, The Daily News reported. He was rushed to the
>> Harlem Hospital pediatric emergency room where he died.
>>
>> Silvera was served the sandwich €œdespite them [the school] knowing
>> and having documented that he has a severe allergy to dairy,€�
>> according to a GoFundMe page. The New York City Health Department
>> released a statement late Wednesday that the school will remain close
>> as the investigation continues, Fox 8 reported.
>>
>> "There is nothing more important than the safety of our children and
>> we are deeply saddened by this tragedy. We will get to the bottom of
>> what happened here. In the meantime, were closing the Center for
>> Family Services and continuing to aggressively investigate what
>> happened and whether the facility could have done something
>> differently to prevent this tragedy," the statement read.
>>
>> Silveras GoFundMe page has raised nearly $18,500 and will go
>> towards an independent autopsy report..."
>
> I was not aware that a cheese allergy could be that severe. I've not
> heard of it before. Nuts sometimes, yes, but not cheese or dairy.

The difference with peanuts is that it is easier for the particles to get
airborne. One reason why they are often no longer served on airplanes. Not
only are the particles airborne but recirculated in the air. People with
life threatening peanut allergies can't go near those peanut butter making
machines that some stores have.

Eggs are similar in that when they are cooked, they can sometimes release
something into the air that can cause an allergic reaction to those with egg
allergies.

People can be allergic to any food but some are less common. Used to be a
Latino waitress here with a life threatening cilantro allergy. She had to be
super careful when dining out, to the point of not going to a restaurant
that had any cilantro containing foods on the menu.

Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 11/9/2017 4:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Ding - Dong Daddy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > Okay...why would they do a crowdfunding for an autopsy, would not
> > > an autopsy be an "automatic" thing in this case...???
> > >
> > > http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/09...chool-shut-dow
> > > n-af ter-toddler-dies-after-eating-grilled-cheese.html
> > >
> > > "New York City school shut down when toddler dies after eating
> > > grilled cheese
> > >
> > > A school in New York City on Wednesday shut down after a
> > > 3-year-old boy, severely allergic to dairy, died after eating a
> > > grilled cheese sandwich, reports said.
> > >
> > > Elijah Silvera died on Nov. 3 after he went into anaphylactic
> > > shock from eating a grilled cheese at the Seventh Avenue Center
> > > for Family Services in Harlem, The Daily News reported. He was
> > > rushed to the Harlem Hospital pediatric emergency room where he
> > > died.
> > >
> > > Silvera was served the sandwich €œdespite them [the school]
> > > knowing and having documented that he has a severe allergy to
> > > dairy,€� according to a GoFundMe page. The New York City Health
> > > Department released a statement late Wednesday that the school
> > > will remain close as the investigation continues, Fox 8 reported.
> > >
> > > "There is nothing more important than the safety of our children
> > > and we are deeply saddened by this tragedy. We will get to the
> > > bottom of what happened here. In the meantime, were closing
> > > the Center for Family Services and continuing to aggressively
> > > investigate what happened and whether the facility could have
> > > done something differently to prevent this tragedy," the
> > > statement read.
> > >
> > > Silveras GoFundMe page has raised nearly $18,500 and will go
> > > towards an independent autopsy report..."
> >
> > I was not aware that a cheese allergy could be that severe. I've
> > not heard of it before. Nuts sometimes, yes, but not cheese or
> > dairy.
> >
>
> Note the term "independent" autopsy. There may have been one done by
> the hospital or local medical examiner but they may want an
> independent opinion so they can sue everyone involved.
>
> What is sad, good chance someone knew he was allergic to dairy so
> they made sure not to give a glass of milk with the grilled cheese.

It is sad if someone didnt connect cheese with dairy but that seems a
little far fetched to me. Meantimes, it just seems odd that this is the
first time time I've head of a dairy allergy to this level.

Yes, they may be setting up for a big lawsuit, but then they may be
right if there was careless treatment.

For me though, if I had a child of an age to not be able to explain a
diet severe thing and know the differences, I'd not have had them in
public school until a lot older than 3yo. When they were old enough to
understand it, then they'd go to school with a lunch.

--

On 11/9/2017 5:11 PM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
>
> Like when Jaden Smith ordered Ricotta Pancakes and claimed the hotel
> tried to kill him by lacing them with cheese.
>
> --
>
I had to look up Jaden Smith. Oh wait, he's the son of a celebrity
couple. No wonder I never heard about this incident. I don't pay
attention to celebrities or their children. Too bad his parents didn't
teach him ricotta is *cheese*. If you have food allergies (or any
allergies) it behooves you to know exactly what you're allergic to.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/9/2017 5:11 PM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
>>
>> Like when Jaden Smith ordered Ricotta Pancakes and claimed
>> the hotel
>> tried to kill him by lacing them with cheese.
>>
>> --
>>
> I had to look up Jaden Smith. Oh wait, he's the son of a
> celebrity couple. No wonder I never heard about this
> incident. I don't pay attention to celebrities or their
> children. Too bad his parents didn't teach him ricotta is
> *cheese*. If you have food allergies (or any allergies) it
> behooves you to know exactly what you're allergic to.
>
> Jill

Maybe the DEA should put peanuts, dairy, wheat and lots of
other things on the list of illegal substances, along with
the heroin they usually worry about. Julie could help fill
this list; she knows many deadly foods that should be banned.

So many people get a tiny whiff of these poisons, then drop
dead on the spot. These dangerous toxins don't belong in
grocery stores any more than sarin nerve toxins.

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On 11/9/2017 4:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> I was not aware that a cheese allergy could be that severe. I've not
> heard of it before. Nuts sometimes, yes, but not cheese or dairy.
>
Ding-Dong Morrow luvs nuts..on his nose. he acquired that taste
from *** Wayne.
lol

On 11/10/2017 7:50 AM, Casa de Masa wrote:
> On 11/9/2017 4:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> I was not aware that a cheese allergy could be that severe.Â* I've not
>> heard of it before.Â* Nuts sometimes, yes, but not cheese or dairy.
>>
> Ding-Dong Morrow luvs nuts..on his nose. he acquired that taste
> from *** Wayne.
> Â*lol
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