17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
Morning frost:
https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
Purina kitten chow treats too.

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-8, Sheldon wrote:
> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
> Morning frost:
> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
> Purina kitten chow treats too.

that's a handsome cat. I'm sure your ferals reward you by keeping the rodent population down

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:34:15 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-8, Sheldon wrote:
>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>> Morning frost:
>> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
>> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
>> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
>> Purina kitten chow treats too.
>
>that's a handsome cat. I'm sure your ferals reward you by keeping the rodent population down

Ebby is a beauty. I wish we can coach him indoors. Unfortunately he
is very feral.

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 20:59:05 -0500, wrote:

>17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>Morning frost:
>https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
>yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
>bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy

Total crap brand.

>, and they get their Purina kitten chow treats too.

Another total crap supermarket brand.

If you can't afford to feed them anything decent, then so be it, but
it's nothing to be proud of.

Don't you have TV programs or magazines that test and compare stuff
there? Or are they all paid by pet food companies?

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:51:57 -0500, wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:34:15 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-8, Sheldon wrote:
>>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>>> Morning frost:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>>> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
>>> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
>>> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
>>> Purina kitten chow treats too.
>>
>>that's a handsome cat. I'm sure your ferals reward you by keeping the rodent population down
>
>Ebby is a beauty. I wish we can coach him indoors. Unfortunately he
>is very feral.

No, he's not. You've clearly never seen a feral cat.

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 7:59:09 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
> Morning frost:
> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>
>
The first picture with Ebby looks like there is frost on some parts
of your deck.

(About 31° here this morning.)

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 8:52:01 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Ebby is a beauty. I wish we can coach him indoors. Unfortunately he
> is very feral.
>
>
Will he let you pet him??

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:34:15 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-8, Sheldon wrote:
> >> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated
> shelter: >> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
> >> Morning frost:
> >> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
> >> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many
> of >> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned
> food >> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get
> their >> Purina kitten chow treats too.
> >
> > that's a handsome cat. I'm sure your ferals reward you by keeping
> > the rodent population down
>
> Ebby is a beauty. I wish we can coach him indoors. Unfortunately he
> is very feral.

Odd how that can happen. Daisy-chan doesn't remotely look like one
would think a feral would, nor does Ebby.

--

wrote in message ...

17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
Morning frost:
https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
Purina kitten chow treats too.
===

Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning

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"Ophelia" wrote in message ...

wrote in message ...

17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
Morning frost:
https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
Purina kitten chow treats too.
===

Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning

==

Oh ok. It is 1c really <g>


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Ophelia wrote:
>
> Sheldon wrote:
> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter
>
> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning

Oh man! Well Mrs.O, you'll really think me a baby then.
Yesterday morning here at 7am, it hit a low of 32F plus
it was quite windy and the windchill was 23F.

Kiss my ass! (25 degrees colder than the morning before).
I walked out just to make a quick trip to my local
mini-mart (only 2 blocks away) and I was freaking out
even though I was dressed quite warmly. Layers of shirts
and my winter coat, gloves, knit hat.
And I was still miserable!

My immediate thought was: No human should have to live
in such an environment. LOL

Anyway, I came right home then locked and deadbolted the
front door, turned on the heat and vowed not to wander
outside for the rest of the day. And I didn't. heh heh

PS - Maybe I *should* have moved to Texas.

In article >,
says...
>
> wrote in message ...
>
> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
> Morning frost:
> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
> Purina kitten chow treats too.
> ===
>
> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning

Surely even you know UK temps are measured in C.

1C is just under 34 F. No frost.

Sheldon's 17 F is -8C, well below freezing.

Janet UK

On 2017-11-12 5:54 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> wrote in message ...
>>
>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>> Morning frost:
>> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
>> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
>> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
>> Purina kitten chow treats too.
>> ===
>>
>> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>
> Surely even you know UK temps are measured in C.
>
> 1C is just under 34 F. No frost.
>
> Sheldon's 17 F is -8C, well below freezing.
>
> Janet UK
>
When I left the UK in 1971, it had been announced that the UK was going
to transition to use celsius. At first they would use F followed by C
then after a while they would use C followed by F and then C only. Even
on my visit this year, I heard the forecasters give the temperatures in
C followed by F.
Shortly after arriving in Australia, the met people said that as of the
following Monday, they were going to change to C with no transition. We
soon got used to it although they still referred occasionally to 38C as
a "century" temperature.
It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F
whereas we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly
made in the US).

"graham" > wrote in message
news
> It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F whereas
> we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly made in the
> US).


Yes, it's wierd for me to watch something like The Great British Baking Show
where they use C with the cooking, I dislike it very much. I thought that
you could convert most new ovens to C in the settings, but dunno for sure.

Cheri

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:52:03 -0700, graham > wrote:


>>
>When I left the UK in 1971, it had been announced that the UK was going
>to transition to use celsius. At first they would use F followed by C
>then after a while they would use C followed by F and then C only. Even
>on my visit this year, I heard the forecasters give the temperatures in
>C followed by F.
>Shortly after arriving in Australia, the met people said that as of the
>following Monday, they were going to change to C with no transition. We
>soon got used to it although they still referred occasionally to 38C as
>a "century" temperature.
>It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F
>whereas we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly
>made in the US).

Mostly only the UK and USA where I used F, much prefer C, like other
measurements, metric is more rational.

Got caught yesterday, our mild, unseasonable weather ended around 6 am
when the thermometer plunged from 10C to 0C and by the time I was down
at the Sailors Memorial for 11a.m. with a northerly wind off the sea,
-2C feels like -10C - tough going.

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> "graham" > wrote in message
> news >
> > It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F whereas
> > we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly made in the
> > US).
>
>
> Yes, it's wierd for me to watch something like The Great British Baking Show
> where they use C with the cooking, I dislike it very much. I thought that
> you could convert most new ovens to C in the settings, but dunno for sure.
>
> Cheri

I think all temperatures should be measured in Kelvin degrees!! ABSOLUTE ZERO is ZERO, yano? NO molecular motion! VERY strange and unusual state of being!!

John Kuthe...

Bruce wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 20:59:05 -0500, wrote:
>
> >17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
> >https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
> >Morning frost:
> >https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
> >Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
> >yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
> >bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy
>
> Total crap brand.


The Fancy Feast simply supplements their regular diet, they hunt for much of their food...

I guess you don't know the term "feral"...


> >, and they get their Purina kitten chow treats too.
>
> Another total crap supermarket brand.


The kitten chow is a *treat*, not their regular diet...


> If you can't afford to feed them anything decent, then so be it, but
> it's nothing to be proud of.
>
> Don't you have TV programs or magazines that test and compare stuff
> there? Or are they all paid by pet food companies?

Sure, Consumer Reports in their "Pest Ratings", rated you as an "Ozzie Mozzie", and suggested you be soaked in DDT* so as to prevent you further infesting the human intellectual gene pool...

[*or one might say, "QUICK, Henry, the FLIT - Ozzie Mozzie Bwuce is sashaying about...!!!"]

--
Best
Greg

"graham" wrote in message news
On 2017-11-12 5:54 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> wrote in message ...
>>
>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>> Morning frost:
>> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
>> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
>> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
>> Purina kitten chow treats too.
>> ===
>>
>> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>
> Surely even you know UK temps are measured in C.
>
> 1C is just under 34 F. No frost.
>
> Sheldon's 17 F is -8C, well below freezing.
>
> Janet UK
>
When I left the UK in 1971, it had been announced that the UK was going
to transition to use celsius. At first they would use F followed by C
then after a while they would use C followed by F and then C only. Even
on my visit this year, I heard the forecasters give the temperatures in
C followed by F.
Shortly after arriving in Australia, the met people said that as of the
following Monday, they were going to change to C with no transition. We
soon got used to it although they still referred occasionally to 38C as
a "century" temperature.
It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F
whereas we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly
made in the US).

==

Just one point for any know it all bitches here ... we had a very hard frost
last night!

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Ophelia wrote:

> "graham" wrote in message news >
> On 2017-11-12 5:54 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> wrote in message ...
> >>
> >> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
> >> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
> >> Morning frost:
> >> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
> >> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
> >> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
> >> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
> >> Purina kitten chow treats too.
> >> ===
> >>
> >> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
> >
> > Surely even you know UK temps are measured in C.
> >
> > 1C is just under 34 F. No frost.
> >
> > Sheldon's 17 F is -8C, well below freezing.
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> When I left the UK in 1971, it had been announced that the UK was going
> to transition to use celsius. At first they would use F followed by C
> then after a while they would use C followed by F and then C only. Even
> on my visit this year, I heard the forecasters give the temperatures in
> C followed by F.
> Shortly after arriving in Australia, the met people said that as of the
> following Monday, they were going to change to C with no transition. We
> soon got used to it although they still referred occasionally to 38C as
> a "century" temperature.
> It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F
> whereas we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly
> made in the US).
>
> ==
>
> Just one point for any know it all bitches here ... we had a very hard frost
> last night!


I'm afraid that Janet UK put the "e" in "evil", Ms. O...she is always prevaricating a noisome stink to (shall we say) "stir the pot"...!!!

Lol...

Anyways, I hope you are cosy and warm...I prefer colder weather, actually.


--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:58:51 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Sheldon wrote:
>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter
>>
>> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>
>Oh man! Well Mrs.O, you'll really think me a baby then.
>Yesterday morning here at 7am, it hit a low of 32F plus
>it was quite windy and the windchill was 23F.
>
>Kiss my ass! (25 degrees colder than the morning before).
>I walked out just to make a quick trip to my local
>mini-mart (only 2 blocks away) and I was freaking out
>even though I was dressed quite warmly. Layers of shirts
>and my winter coat, gloves, knit hat.
>And I was still miserable!
>
>My immediate thought was: No human should have to live
>in such an environment. LOL
>
>Anyway, I came right home then locked and deadbolted the
>front door, turned on the heat and vowed not to wander
>outside for the rest of the day. And I didn't. heh heh
>
>PS - Maybe I *should* have moved to Texas.

Sissy! Have you seen the temps and snow up in International Falls,
Minnesota? It was -17F. And that's just the beginning for them. I
had a girlfriend (Kahlua recipe girlfriend) who moved up there to be
with her one true love. I hope she had her love to keep her warm.
Janet US

"Steve La Wertz" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

> "graham" wrote in message news >
> On 2017-11-12 5:54 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> wrote in message ...
> >>
> >> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
> >> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
> >> Morning frost:
> >> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
> >> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
> >> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
> >> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
> >> Purina kitten chow treats too.
> >> ===
> >>
> >> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
> >
> > Surely even you know UK temps are measured in C.
> >
> > 1C is just under 34 F. No frost.
> >
> > Sheldon's 17 F is -8C, well below freezing.
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> When I left the UK in 1971, it had been announced that the UK was going
> to transition to use celsius. At first they would use F followed by C
> then after a while they would use C followed by F and then C only. Even
> on my visit this year, I heard the forecasters give the temperatures in
> C followed by F.
> Shortly after arriving in Australia, the met people said that as of the
> following Monday, they were going to change to C with no transition. We
> soon got used to it although they still referred occasionally to 38C as
> a "century" temperature.
> It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F
> whereas we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly
> made in the US).
>
> ==
>
> Just one point for any know it all bitches here ... we had a very hard
> frost
> last night!


I'm afraid that Janet UK put the "e" in "evil", Ms. O...she is always
prevaricating a noisome stink to (shall we say) "stir the pot"...!!!

Lol...

Anyways, I hope you are cosy and warm...I prefer colder weather, actually.

Best
Greg

==

LOL thanks, Greg. It is cold but we are keeping nice and warm



--
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 07:23:34 -0800 (PST), Steve La Wertz
> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 20:59:05 -0500, wrote:
>>
>> >17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>> >https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>> >Morning frost:
>> >https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>> >Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
>> >yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
>> >bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy
>>
>> Total crap brand.
>
>
>The Fancy Feast simply supplements their regular diet, they hunt for much of their food...
>
>I guess you don't know the term "feral"...
>
>
>> >, and they get their Purina kitten chow treats too.
>>
>> Another total crap supermarket brand.
>
>
>The kitten chow is a *treat*, not their regular diet...
>
>
>> If you can't afford to feed them anything decent, then so be it, but
>> it's nothing to be proud of.
>>
>> Don't you have TV programs or magazines that test and compare stuff
>> there? Or are they all paid by pet food companies?
>
>Sure, Consumer Reports in their "Pest Ratings", rated you as an "Ozzie Mozzie", and suggested you be soaked in DDT* so as to prevent you further infesting the human intellectual gene pool...
>
>[*or one might say, "QUICK, Henry, the FLIT - Ozzie Mozzie Bwuce is sashaying about...!!!"]

Bruthie is just a stupid Toon... kick his dumb ass into THE D I P.
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dip

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 08:52:56 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:58:51 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter
>>>
>>> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>>
>>Oh man! Well Mrs.O, you'll really think me a baby then.
>>Yesterday morning here at 7am, it hit a low of 32F plus
>>it was quite windy and the windchill was 23F.
>>
>>Kiss my ass! (25 degrees colder than the morning before).
>>I walked out just to make a quick trip to my local
>>mini-mart (only 2 blocks away) and I was freaking out
>>even though I was dressed quite warmly. Layers of shirts
>>and my winter coat, gloves, knit hat.
>>And I was still miserable!
>>
>>My immediate thought was: No human should have to live
>>in such an environment. LOL
>>
>>Anyway, I came right home then locked and deadbolted the
>>front door, turned on the heat and vowed not to wander
>>outside for the rest of the day. And I didn't. heh heh
>>
>>PS - Maybe I *should* have moved to Texas.
>
>Sissy! Have you seen the temps and snow up in International Falls,
>Minnesota? It was -17F. And that's just the beginning for them. I
>had a girlfriend (Kahlua recipe girlfriend) who moved up there to be
>with her one true love. I hope she had her love to keep her warm.
>Janet US

Hmmm, I didn't know you lived in MN... I was always of the impression
that you lived in NH.

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 11:36:28 -0500, wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 08:52:56 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:58:51 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter
>>>>
>>>> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>>>
>>>Oh man! Well Mrs.O, you'll really think me a baby then.
>>>Yesterday morning here at 7am, it hit a low of 32F plus
>>>it was quite windy and the windchill was 23F.
>>>
>>>Kiss my ass! (25 degrees colder than the morning before).
>>>I walked out just to make a quick trip to my local
>>>mini-mart (only 2 blocks away) and I was freaking out
>>>even though I was dressed quite warmly. Layers of shirts
>>>and my winter coat, gloves, knit hat.
>>>And I was still miserable!
>>>
>>>My immediate thought was: No human should have to live
>>>in such an environment. LOL
>>>
>>>Anyway, I came right home then locked and deadbolted the
>>>front door, turned on the heat and vowed not to wander
>>>outside for the rest of the day. And I didn't. heh heh
>>>
>>>PS - Maybe I *should* have moved to Texas.
>>
>>Sissy! Have you seen the temps and snow up in International Falls,
>>Minnesota? It was -17F. And that's just the beginning for them. I
>>had a girlfriend (Kahlua recipe girlfriend) who moved up there to be
>>with her one true love. I hope she had her love to keep her warm.
>>Janet US
>
>Hmmm, I didn't know you lived in MN... I was always of the impression
>that you lived in NH.

I used to live in Wisconsin, then Minnesota and then we moved to the
intermountain west.
Janet US

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> > "graham" > wrote in message
> > news > >
> > > It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F whereas
> > > we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly made in the
> > > US).
> >
> >
> > Yes, it's wierd for me to watch something like The Great British Baking Show
> > where they use C with the cooking, I dislike it very much. I thought that
> > you could convert most new ovens to C in the settings, but dunno for sure.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> I think all temperatures should be measured in Kelvin degrees!! ABSOLUTE ZERO is ZERO, yano? NO molecular motion! VERY strange and unusual state of being!!
>
> John Kuthe...

Well, that's just the same as Celsius, except for where the scale starts.
I doubt anybody wants the freezing point of water to be expressed as
273.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 07:39:38 -0800 (PST), Steve La Wertz
> wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "graham" wrote in message news >>
>> On 2017-11-12 5:54 AM, Janet wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> wrote in message ...
>> >>
>> >> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>> >> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>> >> Morning frost:
>> >> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>> >> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
>> >> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
>> >> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
>> >> Purina kitten chow treats too.
>> >> ===
>> >>
>> >> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>> >
>> > Surely even you know UK temps are measured in C.
>> >
>> > 1C is just under 34 F. No frost.
>> >
>> > Sheldon's 17 F is -8C, well below freezing.
>> >
>> > Janet UK
>> >
>> When I left the UK in 1971, it had been announced that the UK was going
>> to transition to use celsius. At first they would use F followed by C
>> then after a while they would use C followed by F and then C only. Even
>> on my visit this year, I heard the forecasters give the temperatures in
>> C followed by F.
>> Shortly after arriving in Australia, the met people said that as of the
>> following Monday, they were going to change to C with no transition. We
>> soon got used to it although they still referred occasionally to 38C as
>> a "century" temperature.
>> It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F
>> whereas we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly
>> made in the US).
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Just one point for any know it all bitches here ... we had a very hard frost
>> last night!
>
>
>I'm afraid that Janet UK put the "e" in "evil", Ms. O...she is always prevaricating a noisome stink to (shall we say) "stir the pot"...!!!
>
>Lol...
>
>Anyways, I hope you are cosy and warm...I prefer colder weather, actually.

Interesting, I assumed she meant me with her current stance!

On 11/12/2017 4:58 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Sheldon wrote:
>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter
>>
>> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>
> Oh man! Well Mrs.O, you'll really think me a baby then.
> Yesterday morning here at 7am, it hit a low of 32F plus
> it was quite windy and the windchill was 23F.
>
> Kiss my ass! (25 degrees colder than the morning before).
> I walked out just to make a quick trip to my local
> mini-mart (only 2 blocks away) and I was freaking out
> even though I was dressed quite warmly. Layers of shirts
> and my winter coat, gloves, knit hat.
> And I was still miserable!
>
> My immediate thought was: No human should have to live
> in such an environment. LOL
>
> Anyway, I came right home then locked and deadbolted the
> front door, turned on the heat and vowed not to wander
> outside for the rest of the day. And I didn't. heh heh
>
> PS - Maybe I *should* have moved to Texas.
>

Brownsville has a LOT going for it.

It happens that lardass Gregory Morrow socked up as Steve La Wertz and
foamed up this lame shit:
> I prefer colder weather, actually.
>

That's because you're a warthog, Morrow.

https://imgur.com/a/7C1WS <--- LOL

On 11/12/2017 8:10 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> news >>
>>> It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F whereas
>>> we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly made in the
>>> US).
>>
>>
>> Yes, it's wierd for me to watch something like The Great British Baking Show
>> where they use C with the cooking, I dislike it very much. I thought that
>> you could convert most new ovens to C in the settings, but dunno for sure.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I think all temperatures should be measured in Kelvin degrees!! ABSOLUTE ZERO is ZERO, yano? NO molecular motion! VERY strange and unusual state of being!!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

It's a numerically rougher scale.

Consider - 33 deg. C is a HOT day in Canuckland - 91.4 deg. F!

But O deg. C sounds a LOT colder than 32 deg. F.

Fahrenheit is a more expressive way of portraying temperature.

Kelvin would just be whack-o!

https://www.thoughtco.com/chemistry-...-table-4012466

TEMPERATURE CONVERSION TABLE
Kelvin Fahrenheit Celsius Significant Values
373 212 100 boiling point of water at sea level

273 32 0 freezing point of water into ice at sea level


A broader scale but the numbers are just sci-fi high.

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 11:45:20 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> > > "graham" > wrote in message
> > > news > > >
> > > > It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F whereas
> > > > we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly made in the
> > > > US).
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, it's wierd for me to watch something like The Great British Baking Show
> > > where they use C with the cooking, I dislike it very much. I thought that
> > > you could convert most new ovens to C in the settings, but dunno for sure.
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > I think all temperatures should be measured in Kelvin degrees!! ABSOLUTE ZERO is ZERO, yano? NO molecular motion! VERY strange and unusual state of being!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> Well, that's just the same as Celsius, except for where the scale starts.
> I doubt anybody wants the freezing point of water to be expressed as
> 273.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Physics does not really care about what people want, it just IS!

You want Reality: carefully examine physics.

You want fantasy and delusions: listen to what people want!

QED!

John Kuthe...

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 12:09:28 PM UTC-5, casa chevrolet wrote:
> On 11/12/2017 8:10 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
....
> > I think all temperatures should be measured in Kelvin degrees!! ABSOLUTE ZERO is ZERO, yano? NO molecular motion! VERY strange and unusual state of being!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
> >
>
> It's a numerically rougher scale.
>
> Consider - 33 deg. C is a HOT day in Canuckland - 91.4 deg. F!
>
> But O deg. C sounds a LOT colder than 32 deg. F.
>
> Fahrenheit is a more expressive way of portraying temperature.
>
> Kelvin would just be whack-o!
>
> https://www.thoughtco.com/chemistry-...-table-4012466
>
> TEMPERATURE CONVERSION TABLE
> Kelvin Fahrenheit Celsius Significant Values
> 373 212 100 boiling point of water at sea level
>
> 273 32 0 freezing point of water into ice at sea level
>
>
> A broader scale but the numbers are just sci-fi high.

It's science FACT, not science FICTION!!

Don't be proud of being science IGNORANT!

John Kuthe...

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 6:57:41 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > Sheldon wrote:
> > 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter
> >
> > Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>
> Oh man! Well Mrs.O, you'll really think me a baby then.
> Yesterday morning here at 7am, it hit a low of 32F plus
> it was quite windy and the windchill was 23F.
>
> Kiss my ass! (25 degrees colder than the morning before).
> I walked out just to make a quick trip to my local
> mini-mart (only 2 blocks away) and I was freaking out
> even though I was dressed quite warmly. Layers of shirts
> and my winter coat, gloves, knit hat.
> And I was still miserable!
>
> My immediate thought was: No human should have to live
> in such an environment. LOL
>
> Anyway, I came right home then locked and deadbolted the
> front door, turned on the heat and vowed not to wander
> outside for the rest of the day. And I didn't. heh heh
>
> PS - Maybe I *should* have moved to Texas.

I'll think fondly of you this winter when the wind-chill
is below 0 F and I'm snowblowing the driveway.

It's best when there's a crosswind that blows snow
back in my face.

Cindy Hamilton

On 11/11/2017 9:51 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:34:15 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-8, Sheldon wrote:
>>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>>> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>>
(snippage)
>> that's a handsome cat. I'm sure your ferals reward you by keeping the rodent population down
>
> Ebby is a beauty. I wish we can coach him indoors. Unfortunately he
> is very feral.
>
He looks like he knows it! He doesn't appear to be the least bit camera
shy.

Jill

On 11/12/2017 10:42 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 11:36:28 -0500, wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 08:52:56 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:58:51 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter
>>>>>
>>>>> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>>>> Oh man! Well Mrs.O, you'll really think me a baby then.
>>>> Yesterday morning here at 7am, it hit a low of 32F plus
>>>> it was quite windy and the windchill was 23F.
>>>>
>>>> Kiss my ass! (25 degrees colder than the morning before).
>>>> I walked out just to make a quick trip to my local
>>>> mini-mart (only 2 blocks away) and I was freaking out
>>>> even though I was dressed quite warmly. Layers of shirts
>>>> and my winter coat, gloves, knit hat.
>>>> And I was still miserable!
>>>>
>>>> My immediate thought was: No human should have to live
>>>> in such an environment. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I came right home then locked and deadbolted the
>>>> front door, turned on the heat and vowed not to wander
>>>> outside for the rest of the day. And I didn't. heh heh
>>>>
>>>> PS - Maybe I *should* have moved to Texas.
>>> Sissy! Have you seen the temps and snow up in International Falls,
>>> Minnesota? It was -17F. And that's just the beginning for them. I
>>> had a girlfriend (Kahlua recipe girlfriend) who moved up there to be
>>> with her one true love. I hope she had her love to keep her warm.
>>> Janet US
>> Hmmm, I didn't know you lived in MN... I was always of the impression
>> that you lived in NH.
> I used to live in Wisconsin, then Minnesota and then we moved to the
> intermountain west.
> Janet US

I haven't heard the phrase "intermountain west" since I left Utahahaha
over 35 years ago ... where (generally) do you live ?

Â* --

Â* Snag

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 12:14:40 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 11:45:20 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> > > > "graham" > wrote in message
> > > > news > > > >
> > > > > It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F whereas
> > > > > we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly made in the
> > > > > US).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it's wierd for me to watch something like The Great British Baking Show
> > > > where they use C with the cooking, I dislike it very much. I thought that
> > > > you could convert most new ovens to C in the settings, but dunno for sure.
> > > >
> > > > Cheri
> > >
> > > I think all temperatures should be measured in Kelvin degrees!! ABSOLUTE ZERO is ZERO, yano? NO molecular motion! VERY strange and unusual state of being!!
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> > Well, that's just the same as Celsius, except for where the scale starts.
> > I doubt anybody wants the freezing point of water to be expressed as
> > 273.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Physics does not really care about what people want, it just IS!
>
> You want Reality: carefully examine physics.
>
> You want fantasy and delusions: listen to what people want!
>
> QED!
>
> John Kuthe...

John the Kelvin scale is completely arbitrary, even if absolute
zero is not. Perhaps we Americans would use the Rankine scale,
instead.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 12:50:37 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 07:39:38 -0800 (PST), Steve La Wertz
> wrote:
>
>>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> "graham" wrote in message news >>>
>>> On 2017-11-12 5:54 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> > In article >,
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> wrote in message ...
>>> >>
>>> >> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter:
>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/46xk1zwsh/
>>> >> Morning frost:
>>> >> https://postimg.org/image/drh6p2wgx/
>>> >> Ferals here are very well fed and cared for, much better than many of
>>> >> yoose. They have their heated water bowls and heated canned food
>>> >> bowls... they love their Fancy Feast w/gravy, and they get their
>>> >> Purina kitten chow treats too.
>>> >> ===
>>> >>
>>> >> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>>> >
>>> > Surely even you know UK temps are measured in C.
>>> >
>>> > 1C is just under 34 F. No frost.
>>> >
>>> > Sheldon's 17 F is -8C, well below freezing.
>>> >
>>> > Janet UK
>>> >
>>> When I left the UK in 1971, it had been announced that the UK was going
>>> to transition to use celsius. At first they would use F followed by C
>>> then after a while they would use C followed by F and then C only. Even
>>> on my visit this year, I heard the forecasters give the temperatures in
>>> C followed by F.
>>> Shortly after arriving in Australia, the met people said that as of the
>>> following Monday, they were going to change to C with no transition. We
>>> soon got used to it although they still referred occasionally to 38C as
>>> a "century" temperature.
>>> It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F
>>> whereas we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly
>>> made in the US).
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Just one point for any know it all bitches here ... we had a very hard frost
>>> last night!
>>
>>
>>I'm afraid that Janet UK put the "e" in "evil", Ms. O...she is always prevaricating a noisome stink to (shall we say) "stir the pot"...!!!
>>
>>Lol...
>>
>>Anyways, I hope you are cosy and warm...I prefer colder weather, actually.
>
>Interesting, I assumed she meant me with her current stance!

I didn't think she meant anyone in particular and all of us in general
-- anyone who thought the temperatures where she lives didn't get cold
shrug
Janet US

On 11/12/2017 10:17 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 12:09:28 PM UTC-5, casa chevrolet wrote:
>> On 11/12/2017 8:10 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> ...
>>> I think all temperatures should be measured in Kelvin degrees!! ABSOLUTE ZERO is ZERO, yano? NO molecular motion! VERY strange and unusual state of being!!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>
>> It's a numerically rougher scale.
>>
>> Consider - 33 deg. C is a HOT day in Canuckland - 91.4 deg. F!
>>
>> But O deg. C sounds a LOT colder than 32 deg. F.
>>
>> Fahrenheit is a more expressive way of portraying temperature.
>>
>> Kelvin would just be whack-o!
>>
>> https://www.thoughtco.com/chemistry-...-table-4012466
>>
>> TEMPERATURE CONVERSION TABLE
>> Kelvin Fahrenheit Celsius Significant Values
>> 373 212 100 boiling point of water at sea level
>>
>> 273 32 0 freezing point of water into ice at sea level
>>
>>
>> A broader scale but the numbers are just sci-fi high.
>
> It's science FACT, not science FICTION!!
>
> Don't be proud of being science IGNORANT!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
Of course it is factual, no dispute.

My POINT, which you seem to have completely missed despite the clarity
with which I made it is - the numbers are not coherent with what we as
humans are used to on this planet in terms of how we describe
environmental conditions.

It's therefore "sci-fi sounding" in the sheer oddity of the very high
numbers used.

That's it.

On 11/12/2017 10:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 6:57:41 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> 17ºF this morning, but Ebenezer is just fine in his heated shelter
>>>
>>> Pah that is almost tropical <g> 1ºF here this morning
>>
>> Oh man! Well Mrs.O, you'll really think me a baby then.
>> Yesterday morning here at 7am, it hit a low of 32F plus
>> it was quite windy and the windchill was 23F.
>>
>> Kiss my ass! (25 degrees colder than the morning before).
>> I walked out just to make a quick trip to my local
>> mini-mart (only 2 blocks away) and I was freaking out
>> even though I was dressed quite warmly. Layers of shirts
>> and my winter coat, gloves, knit hat.
>> And I was still miserable!
>>
>> My immediate thought was: No human should have to live
>> in such an environment. LOL
>>
>> Anyway, I came right home then locked and deadbolted the
>> front door, turned on the heat and vowed not to wander
>> outside for the rest of the day. And I didn't. heh heh
>>
>> PS - Maybe I *should* have moved to Texas.
>
> I'll think fondly of you this winter when the wind-chill
> is below 0 F and I'm snowblowing the driveway.
>
> It's best when there's a crosswind that blows snow
> back in my face.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
But you said you LIKE that clime....

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 12:26:00 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
....
> John the Kelvin scale is completely arbitrary, even if absolute
> zero is not. Perhaps we Americans would use the Rankine scale,
> instead.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Maybe, of course F and C are also very arbitrary in selecting not only a zero point but also a degree size! Hence the 5/9 and 9/5 ion the conversions which is an approximation I think! Makes the math easier and doable even to dolts!

John Kuthe...

On 11/12/2017 10:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 12:14:40 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 11:45:20 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 9:19:34 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "graham" > wrote in message
>>>>> news >>>>>
>>>>>> It's a bit weird watching a US news program where they still use F whereas
>>>>>> we Canadians use C (except for cooking as our ovens are mostly made in the
>>>>>> US).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it's wierd for me to watch something like The Great British Baking Show
>>>>> where they use C with the cooking, I dislike it very much. I thought that
>>>>> you could convert most new ovens to C in the settings, but dunno for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> I think all temperatures should be measured in Kelvin degrees!! ABSOLUTE ZERO is ZERO, yano? NO molecular motion! VERY strange and unusual state of being!!
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> Well, that's just the same as Celsius, except for where the scale starts.
>>> I doubt anybody wants the freezing point of water to be expressed as
>>> 273.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Physics does not really care about what people want, it just IS!
>>
>> You want Reality: carefully examine physics.
>>
>> You want fantasy and delusions: listen to what people want!
>>
>> QED!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> John the Kelvin scale is completely arbitrary, even if absolute
> zero is not. Perhaps we Americans would use the Rankine scale,
> instead.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


Equally _over_ expressive, imo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_scale

Some important temperatures relating the Rankine scale to other
temperature scales are shown in the table below.

Kelvin Celsius Fahrenheit Rankine
Absolute zero
(by definition) 0 K ˆ’273.15 °C ˆ’459.67 °F 0 °R
Freezing point of brine
(by definition (on Fahrenheit scale only)) 255.37 K ˆ’17.78 °C 0 °F 459.67 °R
Freezing point of water[5] 273.15 K 0 °C 32 °F 491.67 °R
Triple point of water
(by definition) 273.16 K 0.01 °C 32.018 °F 491.688 °R
Boiling point of water[6] 373.1339 K 99.9839 °C 211.97102 °F 671.64102 °R