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Found a new recipe fer carnitas I'm gonna try. It was on a streaming
cooking channel, BBQ-somethingorother. It calls fer marinating the pork roast fer at least 12 hrs, if not overnight (I'm doing overnight) in a combo of spices and orange juice. It included grnd chipotle pprs, which I despise, so I subbed New Mexico grnd pprs. The rest is pretty much the same. After marinating fer overnight, it's another 4 hrs in a 275F oven/smoker/etc, until the bark is good, then another 2 hrs braising in a pot w/ chkn stock, onions, oranges, limes, etc. The later part I know, having made my carnitas like this, often. We'll see, and I'll get back on the results. I alread tossed one pork roast cuz it stank and I didn't have the receipt. This roast looks/smells, O.K. I gotta do something! No good Mexican food --ANYWHERE!-- in this area (isn't 'Colorado' a Spanish term?). Gotta make it myself. 8| nb |
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On 11/14/2017 9:26 AM, notbob wrote:
> Found a new recipe fer carnitas I'm gonna try. It was on a streaming > cooking channel, BBQ-somethingorother. It calls fer marinating the > pork roast fer at least 12 hrs, if not overnight (I'm doing overnight) > in a combo of spices and orange juice. > > It included grnd chipotle pprs, which I despise, so I subbed New > Mexico grnd pprs. The rest is pretty much the same. After marinating > fer overnight, it's another 4 hrs in a 275F oven/smoker/etc, until the > bark is good, then another 2 hrs braising in a pot w/ chkn stock, > onions, oranges, limes, etc. The later part I know, having made my > carnitas like this, often. > > We'll see, and I'll get back on the results. I alread tossed one pork > roast cuz it stank and I didn't have the receipt. This roast > looks/smells, O.K. > > I gotta do something! No good Mexican food --ANYWHERE!-- in this area > (isn't 'Colorado' a Spanish term?). Gotta make it myself. 8| > > nb > It IS a Spanish term - hence the state entrance sign motto of "colorful" (colorado) Colorado! Your carnitas recipe sounds aces! |
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On 14 Nov 2017 16:26:00 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>Found a new recipe fer carnitas I'm gonna try. It was on a streaming >cooking channel, BBQ-somethingorother. It calls fer marinating the >pork roast fer at least 12 hrs, if not overnight (I'm doing overnight) >in a combo of spices and orange juice. > >It included grnd chipotle pprs, which I despise, so I subbed New >Mexico grnd pprs. The rest is pretty much the same. After marinating >fer overnight, it's another 4 hrs in a 275F oven/smoker/etc, until the >bark is good, then another 2 hrs braising in a pot w/ chkn stock, >onions, oranges, limes, etc. The later part I know, having made my >carnitas like this, often. > >We'll see, and I'll get back on the results. I alread tossed one pork >roast cuz it stank and I didn't have the receipt. This roast >looks/smells, O.K. > >I gotta do something! No good Mexican food --ANYWHERE!-- in this area >(isn't 'Colorado' a Spanish term?). Gotta make it myself. 8| > >nb Good luck with the process. Let me know how it turns out. I, too, don't really like chipotle peppers. Sometimes I think it is used to add smoked flavor without the process of smoking. Anyway, sounds good. Let me know Janet US |
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On 2017-11-14, U.S Janet B > wrote:
> I, too, don't really like chipotle peppers. Sometimes I think it is used to > add smoked flavor without the process of smoking. Yeah. Kinda like 'eau de ashtray'. ![]() > Anyway, sounds good. Let me know Will do! nb |
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On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 5:26:05 PM UTC+1, notbob wrote:
> Found a new recipe fer carnitas I'm gonna try. It was on a streaming > cooking channel, BBQ-somethingorother. It calls fer marinating the > pork roast fer at least 12 hrs, if not overnight (I'm doing overnight) > in a combo of spices and orange juice. > > It included grnd chipotle pprs, which I despise, so I subbed New > Mexico grnd pprs. The rest is pretty much the same. After marinating > fer overnight, it's another 4 hrs in a 275F oven/smoker/etc, until the > bark is good, then another 2 hrs braising in a pot w/ chkn stock, > onions, oranges, limes, etc. The later part I know, having made my > carnitas like this, often. > > We'll see, and I'll get back on the results. I alread tossed one pork > roast cuz it stank and I didn't have the receipt. This roast > looks/smells, O.K. > > I gotta do something! No good Mexican food --ANYWHERE!-- in this area > (isn't 'Colorado' a Spanish term?). Gotta make it myself. 8| > > nb |
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On 11/14/2017 11:51 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Here, pork butts turn over quick. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ost > > > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM > Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 > readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs > fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com > > > Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. > > -sw > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. > There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg > > Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!! > > - sw |
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On 2017-11-14, notbob > wrote:
> On 2017-11-14, U.S Janet B > wrote: >> Anyway, sounds good. Let me know > Will do! I didn't like the results! I think the 4 hrs in a Green Egg (video) was too much. I did the same, but in a kitchen oven (sub-274F). It tended to dry the roast, out. While the resulting carnitas weren't bad, they are far from my best. I'll do the next batch fully 'braised'. Also, the video recipe added tomato juice to the OJ. Thankfully, I did not. But, I did add the recommended 'cinnamom', which I'll never do, again! Overall, a different approach, but not terrible. I'll not repeat this recipe. ![]() nb |
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On 17 Nov 2017 00:13:24 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-11-14, notbob > wrote: > >> On 2017-11-14, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >>> Anyway, sounds good. Let me know > >> Will do! > >I didn't like the results! > >I think the 4 hrs in a Green Egg (video) was too much. I did the >same, but in a kitchen oven (sub-274F). It tended to dry the roast, >out. > >While the resulting carnitas weren't bad, they are far from my best. >I'll do the next batch fully 'braised'. Also, the video recipe added >tomato juice to the OJ. Thankfully, I did not. But, I did add the >recommended 'cinnamom', which I'll never do, again! > >Overall, a different approach, but not terrible. I'll not repeat this >recipe. ![]() > >nb The Green Egg may have some controlled heat that may not be available to you. I don't really know as I've never cooked with one, just what I've read and watching Steven Raichlen's Project Smoke http://www.projectsmoke.org/home/ I've never made carnitas because I've doubted my ability to get a nice crust (various methods) and not totally dry out the meat. Time to try again with a new goal, hmmm? I wasn't pleased with the results of the Chocolate Cherry Sourdough Bread that I tried either. I was expecting sourdough bread with some interesting accents and instead got what could pass as a chocolate cake. if I try again, I will be taking some ideas from the recipe and working toward my own goals. It's the doing and trying that makes it all interesting. Thanks for the report back. Janet US |
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On 11/16/2017 9:37 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> 4 hours should not dry out a pork butt roast. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ost > > > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM > Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 > readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs > fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com > > > Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. > > -sw > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. > There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg > > Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!! > > - sw > Do not let "Oscar" near your food. He was obliviously digging > boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand > while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer > next to me, not mine. Otherwise I would have made a stink about it > right then, and with no mercy. > > Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate about my experience (Oscar + overcharges). Sprouts has never responded or offered a refund. They'll probably complain about this review, though. > > They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food. |
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On 2017-11-17, U.S Janet B > wrote:
> working toward my own goals. It's the doing and trying that makes it > all interesting. I totally agree. I originally did my all-braise version of carnitas to copy the carnitas sold every Saturday at my local carniceria. Mine pretty much nailed it. Even the proprietor gave me a thumbs-up fer my efforts. > Thanks for the report back. My pleasure. If you would like to know how I get that 'crust' on my carnitas, I'd be more than happy to share. ![]() nb |
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On 17 Nov 2017 14:31:21 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-11-17, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> working toward my own goals. It's the doing and trying that makes it >> all interesting. > >I totally agree. > >I originally did my all-braise version of carnitas to copy the >carnitas sold every Saturday at my local carniceria. Mine pretty much >nailed it. Even the proprietor gave me a thumbs-up fer my efforts. > >> Thanks for the report back. > >My pleasure. If you would like to know how I get that 'crust' on my >carnitas, I'd be more than happy to share. ![]() > >nb > Yes, please. Are you using cast iron, non-stick, what? Janet US |
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On 2017-11-17, U.S Janet B > wrote:
> Yes, please. Are you using cast iron, non-stick, what? No. Jes using my 'big Orange'. It's one of those Le Creuset pots (enameled cast-iron) like ya' see on all the cooking shows (5-6qt). I got one fer 1/2 price. Unlike a pressure cooker, the 'big orange' is NOT sealed and will let the braising liquid 'boil off', so you gotta watch it. Basically, I jes put in a pork roast, that will fit, and add a mixture of OJ and chkn stock (2-3 C). To that, I add savory citrus pieces, like halved oranges, limes, onions, garlic, etc, and some kinda 'red'. This 'red' (in my case) is typically New Mexico ground peppers. I then cover the pot, put it in a 325F oven, let the juice render down as it braises the roast. When I lived in the SFBA, I was at about 500ft elev, so cooking did not take as long as it does here. After so long (2-3 hrs), I'd check the bones (bone-in roast) to see if they would turn easily. I'd also check the braising liquid. If I waited long enough to check, the braising liquid might boil completely off and I'd hafta add more. Regardless, you want to end up with the meat literally falling-off-the-bone (pull pork) and about a cup or two of braising liquid thickening on the bottom of yer cooking pot. I then remove the savory pieces, 'pull the pork' apart, and put the pulled pork pieces back in the 'Big Orange' in the thickened braising liquid. I'd then cook it on the stove top. I'd pan cook/stir the pulled pork until it was fully coated with the braising liquid and began to get somewhat "crunchy" on the outside. This method does NOT leave you with a fully "crunchy" crust on the carnitas (I've never seen that), but you can make it close. I've eaten fully "dried out" (read 'extra crunchy') carnitas from a steam table. They were definitely "dried out" and definitely not appetizing. You must adjust yer braising liquid to yer tastes, but the above are my basics. HTH. ![]() nb --I recommend against adding any cinnamon |
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On 17 Nov 2017 17:37:53 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-11-17, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> Yes, please. Are you using cast iron, non-stick, what? > >No. Jes using my 'big Orange'. It's one of those Le Creuset pots >(enameled cast-iron) like ya' see on all the cooking shows (5-6qt). I >got one fer 1/2 price. Unlike a pressure cooker, the 'big orange' is >NOT sealed and will let the braising liquid 'boil off', so you gotta >watch it. > >Basically, I jes put in a pork roast, that will fit, and add a mixture >of OJ and chkn stock (2-3 C). To that, I add savory citrus pieces, >like halved oranges, limes, onions, garlic, etc, and some kinda >'red'. This 'red' (in my case) is typically New Mexico ground >peppers. I then cover the pot, put it in a 325F oven, let the juice >render down as it braises the roast. > >When I lived in the SFBA, I was at about 500ft elev, so cooking did >not take as long as it does here. After so long (2-3 hrs), I'd check >the bones (bone-in roast) to see if they would turn easily. I'd also >check the braising liquid. If I waited long enough to check, the >braising liquid might boil completely off and I'd hafta add more. >Regardless, you want to end up with the meat literally >falling-off-the-bone (pull pork) and about a cup or two of braising >liquid thickening on the bottom of yer cooking pot. > >I then remove the savory pieces, 'pull the pork' apart, and put the >pulled pork pieces back in the 'Big Orange' in the thickened braising >liquid. I'd then cook it on the stove top. I'd pan cook/stir the >pulled pork until it was fully coated with the braising liquid and >began to get somewhat "crunchy" on the outside. This method does NOT >leave you with a fully "crunchy" crust on the carnitas (I've never >seen that), but you can make it close. I've eaten fully "dried out" >(read 'extra crunchy') carnitas from a steam table. They were >definitely "dried out" and definitely not appetizing. > >You must adjust yer braising liquid to yer tastes, but the above are >my basics. HTH. ![]() > >nb --I recommend against adding any cinnamon > > I've got a Lodge Big Blue. I have another pork roast from Pioneer Woman that I do in the oven. Recipe follows, I do use one chipotle for it, husband loves it. However, what I understand from you now is after I remove a roast from the oven, shred it, return to stove top heat until braising liquid is gone. Okay. I can do that. I'll try your carnita seasonings next roast. Pioneer Woman keeps the juice to add to the pulled pork. Different end game. Spicy Pop Pulled Pork 2011 Ree Drummond, All Rights Reserved .. Cook Time:6 hr 0 minLevel:EasyServes:18 servings. Ingredients 2 onions, peeled and quartered 1 whole pork butt (pork shoulder roast) Salt and freshly ground black pepper One 11-ounce can chipotle peppers in adobo sauce 2 cans pop (I use Dr Pepper) 4 packed tablespoons brown sugar Directions Preheat the oven to 300 degrees F. Start by placing the onion quarters in the bottom of a pot. Sprinkle the pork with salt and pepper, and then place on top of the onions. Pour the chipotle peppers over the top, and then crack open the cans of pop and pour them over the whole thing. Add the brown sugar to the liquid and stir. Cover the pot, put in the oven and cook for at least 6 hours, flipping the roast 2 or 3 times during the cooking process. When it's done, the pork will be dark and weird and wonderful. It'll also be fork-tender. That's when you know it's done. Remove the meat from the pot and shred completely. Then return the meat to the pot and keep in the juice until you need it. Divine! Janet US |
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On 2017-11-17, U.S Janet B > wrote:
> ....keep in the juice until you need it. Divine! Same thing. I've always considered carnitas as basically Mexican pull pork, pan fried to doneness. I usually reduce the braising liquid till it's nice and thick then add the pulled pork and toss, then pan fry both to give it any 'crust'. You use sodas, but it's much the same. Save the "juice" or use it. Either way works. I pan fry my pulled pork until the braising sauce/juice, which is now coating the pulled pork, is essentially a paste, to 'crisp up' or even burn (which I've accidently done). I think the BBQ method was jes fer a video fer BBQ'ing. Not completely wrong, jes another way to give the pork some 'crust'.... in this case, "bark" ....and let some big fat Bubbas cremate some charcoal. I think it dried out my roast, but I may have done it incorrectly. ![]() nb --semi-fat geezer Bubba |
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On 2017-11-17, notbob > wrote:
> I've always considered carnitas as basically Mexican pull pork, pan > fried to doneness. Now, even more so! I've been warming up my refrigerated carnitas in my newly cleaned enameled skillet, instead of the microwave. Wow. Boy, does that ever make difference. Tad bit o' peanut oil, few ozs of carnitas, PAN FRY!!. It gives the carnitas that 'extra added' crispiness on the crust, jes like Janet B spoke of. ![]() nb |
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On 11/20/2017 1:47 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-17, notbob > wrote: > >> I've always considered carnitas as basically Mexican pull pork, pan >> fried to doneness. > > Now, even more so! > > I've been warming up my refrigerated carnitas in my newly cleaned > enameled skillet, instead of the microwave. Wow. Boy, does that ever > make difference. > > Tad bit o' peanut oil, few ozs of carnitas, PAN FRY!!. It gives the > carnitas that 'extra added' crispiness on the crust, jes like Janet B > spoke of. ![]() > > nb > That is how I learned to make carnitas (granted, the only time I made them) - braise them in the oven in chicken/vegetable stock and orange juice then boil down the liquid on the stovetop and sear the pieces in the grease/oil that is left. |
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On 2017-11-21, dejamos > wrote:
> On 11/20/2017 1:47 PM, notbob wrote: >> >> Tad bit o' peanut oil, few ozs of carnitas, PAN FRY!!. It gives the >> carnitas that 'extra added' crispiness on the crust, jes like Janet B >> spoke of. ![]() > That is how I learned to make carnitas (granted, the only time I made > them) - braise them in the oven in chicken/vegetable stock and orange > juice then boil down the liquid on the stovetop and sear the pieces in > the grease/oil that is left. Yep. Turns out better! I also "boiled down" my carnitas in OJ and chkn stock, but pan frying 'twice' is even better than pan frying 'once'. ![]() nb |
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On 11/21/2017 8:04 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-21, dejamos > wrote: > >> On 11/20/2017 1:47 PM, notbob wrote: >>> >>> Tad bit o' peanut oil, few ozs of carnitas, PAN FRY!!. It gives the >>> carnitas that 'extra added' crispiness on the crust, jes like Janet B >>> spoke of. ![]() > >> That is how I learned to make carnitas (granted, the only time I made >> them) - braise them in the oven in chicken/vegetable stock and orange >> juice then boil down the liquid on the stovetop and sear the pieces in >> the grease/oil that is left. > > Yep. Turns out better! > > I also "boiled down" my carnitas in OJ and chkn stock, but pan frying > 'twice' is even better than pan frying 'once'. ![]() > > nb > True 'dat. ![]() |
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