Shrimp cocktail?

I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with
tails), decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses
containing some cocktail sauce for dipping.

Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> Shrimp cocktail?
>
> I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with tails),
> decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses containing some
> cocktail sauce for dipping.
>
> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
>
> Jill


Yes, and we loved them, still do but really haven't made them for years now.

Cheri

Cheri wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
> > Shrimp cocktail?
> >
> > I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
> > presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with tails),
> > decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses containing some
> > cocktail sauce for dipping.
> >
> > Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> Yes, and we loved them, still do but really haven't made them for years now.


I bought a pound of Argentinian Red Shrimp* at Trader Joe's, they will precede the meal...

[*Steve Wertz mentioned these, and so I have been buying them, very good shrimp. So to prove that I am not ALWAYS snarky to Steve, I say "Thanks for the hint, Steve...!!!" ;-) ]

Also, I remember an appetizer of tomato juice and Ritz crackers preceding some Holiday meals when I was a kid, that *really* dates me...


--
Best
Greg

In article >,
socked up as Feelings says...
> I bought a pound of Argentinian Red Shrimp
>

https://imgur.com/a/b8H4T <--- YIKES!

"Feelings" > wrote in message
...
> Cheri wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > Shrimp cocktail?
>> >
>> > I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
>> > presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with
>> > tails),
>> > decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses containing
>> > some
>> > cocktail sauce for dipping.
>> >
>> > Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>>
>> Yes, and we loved them, still do but really haven't made them for years
>> now.
>
>
> I bought a pound of Argentinian Red Shrimp* at Trader Joe's, they will
> precede the meal...
>
> [*Steve Wertz mentioned these, and so I have been buying them, very good
> shrimp. So to prove that I am not ALWAYS snarky to Steve, I say "Thanks
> for the hint, Steve...!!!" ;-) ]
>
> Also, I remember an appetizer of tomato juice and Ritz crackers preceding
> some Holiday meals when I was a kid, that *really* dates me...
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg


Yes, I've no doubt that SW is a good cook and his recommendations would be
decent. I don't remember the Ritz and tomato juice, but I'm probably older
than you. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours Greg.

Cheri

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 11:40:50 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> Shrimp cocktail?
>
> I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with
> tails), decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses
> containing some cocktail sauce for dipping.
>
> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
>
> Jill

Only on New Year's Eve. My mother and I had a buffet of
luxury foods, including shrimp cocktail.

Nowadays, shrimp cocktail is one of our warm-weather
go-to meals when there's nothing else planned. I almost
always have a bag (or two) of peeled and deveined shrimp
in the freezer.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-11-22, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> I almost always have a bag (or two) of peeled and deveined shrimp in
> the freezer.

I use to. At least until I learned how they are raised or what they
contain. Now, shrimp are on my 'do not eat under any circumstances'
list.

nb --hasn't eaten shrimp in 8 yrs

On 22 Nov 2017 18:06:17 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-11-22, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
>> I almost always have a bag (or two) of peeled and deveined shrimp in
>> the freezer.
>
>I use to. At least until I learned how they are raised or what they
>contain. Now, shrimp are on my 'do not eat under any circumstances'
>list.
>
>nb --hasn't eaten shrimp in 8 yrs

Do you mean that they keep them in water under chicken coops so that
they live of chicken poop? Isn't that an Asia only practice? I only
buy Australian prawns (or American ones if I lived in America).

On 2017-11-22, Bruze > wrote:

> buy Australian prawns (or American ones if I lived in America).

I don't live in Australia and how do you rid American prawns of
Corexit?

nb

On 22 Nov 2017 18:18:59 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-11-22, Bruze > wrote:
>
>> buy Australian prawns (or American ones if I lived in America).
>
>I don't live in Australia and how do you rid American prawns of
>Corexit?

Aren't there American prawns that aren't from the Gulf of Mexico? Or
farmed somewhere safe?

On 11/22/2017 11:40 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Shrimp cocktail?
>
> I never did like shrimp cocktail.Â* When I was a child it was a
> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving.Â* Cold peeled shrimp (with
> tails), decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses
> containing some cocktail sauce for dipping.
>
> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?

It's one of our contributions to every gathering, it's expected.
We get a bag of shrimp from Costco and Kelchner's cocktail sauce.

I know it's easy to make your own cocktail sauce but this stuff
is my favorite and I don't feel a need to recreate it.

nancy

Bruze wrote:
>
> On 22 Nov 2017 18:18:59 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >On 2017-11-22, Bruze > wrote:
> >
> >> buy Australian prawns (or American ones if I lived in America).
> >
> >I don't live in Australia and how do you rid American prawns of
> >Corexit?
>
> Aren't there American prawns that aren't from the Gulf of Mexico? Or
> farmed somewhere safe?

Most shrimp sold here in groceries come from farmed in southeast
asia. Years ago, they were from South America.
In my area, at least, I can get locally wild caught from North
Carolina if I want to pay twice the price. Can only get those
from a local seafood market though, never a grocery store.

Many years ago, some old guy came here every few days selling
them from his coolers in the back of his truck. His son was a
shrimp fisherman only about 80 miles south of here. This dad,
filled his coolers and drove here to sell them. I was a very good
customer then.

On 2017-11-22, Bruze > wrote:

> farmed somewhere safe?

Shrimp do not get "farmed somewhere safe". IOW, chosen by the shrimp.
They are farmed by greedy men. Makes no diff if yer Thai or American.
Ya' gotta feed yer family and greed is jes a natural by-product of
man. Southerners will buy shrimp, regardless of where it came from.

nb

On 11/22/2017 9:40 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Shrimp cocktail?
>
> I never did like shrimp cocktail.Â* When I was a child it was a
> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving.Â* Cold peeled shrimp (with
> tails), decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses
> containing some cocktail sauce for dipping.
>
> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
>
> Jill

Yes!

But with lemon wedges too.

On 11/22/2017 10:19 AM, Casa de Masa wrote:
> In article >,
> socked up as Feelings says...
>> I bought a pound of Argentinian Red Shrimp
>>
>
> https://imgur.com/a/b8H4T <--- YIKES!
>

https://media.giphy.com/media/9LAN9bxmMYGly/giphy.gif

On 11/22/2017 2:00 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 11:55:26a, Nancy Young told us...

>> We get a bag of shrimp from Costco and Kelchner's cocktail sauce.
>>
>> I know it's easy to make your own cocktail sauce but this stuff
>> is my favorite and I don't feel a need to recreate it.

> I've never heard of Kelchner's cocktail sauce, but I've been
> disappointed in any commercial suace I've tried, so I always make my
> own. I like it spicy.

This stuff is spicy, sometimes very. Guess it depends on
the horseradish harvest.

nancy

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:56:51 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruze wrote:
>>
>> On 22 Nov 2017 18:18:59 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2017-11-22, Bruze > wrote:
>> >
>> >> buy Australian prawns (or American ones if I lived in America).
>> >
>> >I don't live in Australia and how do you rid American prawns of
>> >Corexit?
>>
>> Aren't there American prawns that aren't from the Gulf of Mexico? Or
>> farmed somewhere safe?
>
>Most shrimp sold here in groceries come from farmed in southeast
>asia. Years ago, they were from South America.
>In my area, at least, I can get locally wild caught from North
>Carolina if I want to pay twice the price. Can only get those
>from a local seafood market though, never a grocery store.
>
>Many years ago, some old guy came here every few days selling
>them from his coolers in the back of his truck. His son was a
>shrimp fisherman only about 80 miles south of here. This dad,
>filled his coolers and drove here to sell them. I was a very good
>customer then.

I'd have thought there were also American farmed prawns. Under
controlled conditions, no pollution etc. I wouldn't trust Asian prawns
or fish. We can get Australian or Vietnamese prawns. Australian are
more expensive, but we get those anyway.

On 22 Nov 2017 19:03:42 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-11-22, Bruze > wrote:
>
>> farmed somewhere safe?
>
>Shrimp do not get "farmed somewhere safe". IOW, chosen by the shrimp.
>They are farmed by greedy men. Makes no diff if yer Thai or American.
>Ya' gotta feed yer family and greed is jes a natural by-product of
>man. Southerners will buy shrimp, regardless of where it came from.

I think greedy Americans and Australians take less shortcuts than
greedy Asians. And if not, there will still be more regulatory quality
control.

On 11/22/2017 12:03 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-22, Bruze > wrote:
>
>> farmed somewhere safe?
>
> Shrimp do not get "farmed somewhere safe". IOW, chosen by the shrimp.
> They are farmed by greedy men. Makes no diff if yer Thai or American.
> Ya' gotta feed yer family and greed is jes a natural by-product of
> man. Southerners will buy shrimp, regardless of where it came from.
>
> nb
>

Mexican Sea of Cortez shrimp - they rock!

On 11/22/2017 1:06 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-22, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
>> I almost always have a bag (or two) of peeled and deveined shrimp in
>> the freezer.
>
> I use to. At least until I learned how they are raised or what they
> contain. Now, shrimp are on my 'do not eat under any circumstances'
> list.
>
> nb --hasn't eaten shrimp in 8 yrs
>

Same here. They lost their appeal knowing how most are raised these
days. I don't buy any farmed fish.

To answer Jill's question, no, rarely ever had them at home.

On 11/22/2017 12:20 PM, Bruze wrote:
> I think greedy Americans and Australians take less shortcuts than
> greedy Asians.

More of your patented bigotry - you racist swine.

On 11/22/2017 1:44 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 22-Nov-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> Shrimp cocktail?
>>
>> I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
>> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp
>> (with
>> tails), decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type
>> glasses
>> containing some cocktail sauce for dipping.
>>
>> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
> In my formative years, the closest thing we had to shrimp was
> "crawdads" and they weren't eaten in the manner of shrimp
> cocktail. Western Kentucky of the 50s and 60s was not know for
> seafood; catfish and crawdads were the norm, on a very rare
> occasion there might be this exotic thing, ocean perch, show up
> at the JJ Newberry lunch counter.

Yer the Bergoo guy, right?

> After we moved to "the big city", "fishy" things got a little
> more interesting. Sometime in the 90s, my mother embraced shrimp
> as a very special food and served it every year at our family
> Christmas Eve dinner, not in "cocktail" glasses, just in a
> "fancy" clear serving bowl with matching cup-sized individual
> bowls. Cold boiled shrimp, beef tenderloin and banana
> croquettes/salad were things you could count on being on the
> table Christmas Eve.

That's a very eclectic menu.

A broad array of different tastes.

On 11/22/2017 3:44 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 12:17:47p, Nancy Young told us...

>> This stuff is spicy, sometimes very. Guess it depends on
>> the horseradish harvest.

> Does Costco sell Kelchner's cocktail sauce? I've never seen it in
> any of our stores.

I don't think so. I think it's a regional product to Pennsylvania.

Here'e their store list:

https://www.kelchnershorseradish.com/shop/store-list/

nancy

On 11/22/2017 2:05 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:56:44p, Nancy Young told us...
>
>> On 11/22/2017 3:44 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 12:17:47p, Nancy Young told us...
>>
>>>> This stuff is spicy, sometimes very. Guess it depends on the
>>>> horseradish harvest.
>>
>>> Does Costco sell Kelchner's cocktail sauce? I've never seen it
>>> in any of our stores.
>>
>> I don't think so. I think it's a regional product to
>> Pennsylvania.
>>
>> Here'e their store list:
>>
>> https://www.kelchnershorseradish.com/shop/store-list/
>>
>> nancy
>>
>
> Thank you. I was afraid that might be the case.
>

Simple solution - Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Kelchners-Hot.../dp/B01H7UZHOY

https://crabville.com/products/kelch...dish-16-oz-jar

On 11/22/2017 2:12 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Can't do shrimp cocktail this
> year since I'm out of ketchup and not going to brave the grocery store
> today or tomorrow.

https://gph.is/1wTBr99

On 11/22/2017 4:05 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 01:56:44p, Nancy Young told us...
>
>> On 11/22/2017 3:44 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 12:17:47p, Nancy Young told us...
>>
>>>> This stuff is spicy, sometimes very. Guess it depends on the
>>>> horseradish harvest.
>>
>>> Does Costco sell Kelchner's cocktail sauce? I've never seen it
>>> in any of our stores.
>>
>> I don't think so. I think it's a regional product to
>> Pennsylvania.
>>
>> Here'e their store list:
>>
>> https://www.kelchnershorseradish.com/shop/store-list/

> Thank you. I was afraid that might be the case.

Thing is, no doubt your homemade is better anyway, as much as
I think this brand is delicious.

nancy

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> Shrimp cocktail?
>
> I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with tails),
> decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses containing some
> cocktail sauce for dipping.
>
> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?

No.

On 11/22/2017 1:56 PM, Gary wrote:
> Bruze wrote:
>>
>> On 22 Nov 2017 18:18:59 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>> Aren't there American prawns that aren't from the Gulf of Mexico? Or
>> farmed somewhere safe?
>
> Most shrimp sold here in groceries come from farmed in southeast
> asia. Years ago, they were from South America.
> In my area, at least, I can get locally wild caught from North
> Carolina if I want to pay twice the price. Can only get those
> from a local seafood market though, never a grocery store.
>
(snippage)

What made me think of shrimp cocktail was a local shrimper on St. Helena
(just a few miles away) unloaded 13,000 pounds of shrimp yesterday. 21
count, heads removed, $10/lb.

Not all shrimp comes from the Gulf of Mexico nor is it necessarily
farmed. It's nearing the end of the 2017 shrimp season.

Jill

On 11/22/2017 2:03 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-22, Bruze > wrote:
>
>> farmed somewhere safe?
>
> Shrimp do not get "farmed somewhere safe". IOW, chosen by the shrimp.
> They are farmed by greedy men. Makes no diff if yer Thai or American.
> Ya' gotta feed yer family and greed is jes a natural by-product of
> man. Southerners will buy shrimp, regardless of where it came from.
>
> nb
>
The "southerners" around here buy it from local shrimp fishermen.

Jill

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:59:10 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 11/22/2017 1:56 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Bruze wrote:
>>>
>>> On 22 Nov 2017 18:18:59 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>> Aren't there American prawns that aren't from the Gulf of Mexico? Or
>>> farmed somewhere safe?

notbob didn't write this.

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Shrimp cocktail?
>
> I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with
> tails), decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses
> containing some cocktail sauce for dipping.
>
> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
>
> Jill

Only when eating out or on shipboard. On shipboard, that's one of the
easy sides even if you've been underway a long time to make up from
frozen shrimp and canned tomatoes plus seasonings. I remember it more
for 4th July and Christmas meals when at sea.

--

On 11/22/2017 1:50 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Now, on New Year's Eve, I snack on jumbo cold boiled shrimp with a
> spicy homemade cocktail sauce, along with an assortment of cheeses
> and crackers.:-)

Thinking ahead to New Year's Eve, I may indulge in a blast from the past
(but not my past, my mother never made this): swiss cheese fondue. I
bought a can of Sterno yesterday.

Jill

On 2017-11-22 2:00 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 11:55:26a, Nancy Young told us...

>
> I've never heard of Kelchner's cocktail sauce, but I've been
> disappointed in any commercial suace I've tried, so I always make my
> own. I like it spicy.
>

Cross and Blackwell cocktail sauce is pretty good. Well, it used to be
good. I have not had any cocktail sauce in years, but that was the one I
grew up with.

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 10:40:50 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> Shrimp cocktail?
>
> I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with
> tails), decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses
> containing some cocktail sauce for dipping.
>
> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
>
> Jill
>
>
Just occasionally on Christmas Eve and they're on a platter.
Nothing as fancy as draped over a glass.

On 11/22/2017 5:19 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 10:40:50 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> Shrimp cocktail?
>>
>> I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it was a
>> presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled shrimp (with
>> tails), decoratively hanging off the side of parfait type glasses
>> containing some cocktail sauce for dipping.
>>
>> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> Just occasionally on Christmas Eve and they're on a platter.
> Nothing as fancy as draped over a glass.
>
I guess that presentation is a hold-over from the 1950's. I still
have those parfait glasses.

Jill

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
>> Shrimp cocktail?
>>
>> I never did like shrimp cocktail. When I was a child it
>> was a presentation appetizer at Thanksgiving. Cold peeled
>> shrimp (with tails), decoratively hanging off the side of
>> parfait type glasses containing some cocktail sauce for
>> dipping.
>>
>> Did your holiday dinners ever include shrimp cocktail?
>
> No.
OK.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-11-22 2:00 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 11:55:26a, Nancy Young told us...
>
>>
>> I've never heard of Kelchner's cocktail sauce, but I've been
>> disappointed in any commercial suace I've tried, so I
>> always make my
>> own. I like it spicy.
>>
>
> Cross and Blackwell cocktail sauce is pretty good. Well, it
> used to be good. I have not had any cocktail sauce in years,
> but that was the one I grew up with.

C&B is a good one, but like most all, I doctor them up with
extra hot pepper, horseradish, etc. I imagine homemade would
be even better.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:00:18 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
snip
>I've never heard of Kelchner's cocktail sauce, but I've been
>disappointed in any commercial suace I've tried, so I always make my
>own. I like it spicy.

Probably like mine:
ketchup, fresh ground black pepper,(the fresh ground pepper is
important for some kick) some salt, lemon juice, open a new jar of
horseradish and use a liberal dollop.
Ahhh, clears out the sinus ;-)
Janet US

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 2:26:25 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> Probably like mine:
> ketchup, fresh ground black pepper,(the fresh ground pepper is
> important for some kick) some salt, lemon juice, open a new jar of
> horseradish and use a liberal dollop.
> Ahhh, clears out the sinus ;-)
> Janet US

Interesting, I never saw a recipe for shrimp cocktail sauce before. I'll have to try it. Thanks.

On 11/22/2017 6:18 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 22 Nov 2017 02:25:09p, Nancy Young told us...

>> Thing is, no doubt your homemade is better anyway, as much as
>> I think this brand is delicious.

> Perhaps, but I do like to try new products that others like. When
> you buy it locally, is it already refrigerated, or only needs sto be
> after opening?

It is sold refrigerated. If it wasn't I'd have offered to send
you a jar. Costs the earth to mail cold stuff and I didn't
think you'd care that much for me to bother.

nancy