On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
>> wrote:
>> > >

>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
>
>
>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
>sitting I think.
>
>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
>duck.
>
>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
>
> Carol

I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
that fed four of us handily.

I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
single duck !!

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 8:19:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >
> >> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
>
> >> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
> >> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
> >> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
> >> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> >Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
> >
> >
> >Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
> >sitting I think.
> >
> >Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
> >duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
> >meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
> >duck.
> >
> >We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
> >
> > Carol
>
> I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
> the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
> feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
> that fed four of us handily.
>
> I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
> single duck !!

For many people, meat is the garnish, not the meal.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>> >
>>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>
>>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
>>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
>>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
>>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
>>
>>
>>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
>>sitting I think.
>>
>>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
>>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
>>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
>>duck.
>>
>>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
>>
>> Carol
>
>I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
>the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
>feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
>that fed four of us handily.
>
>I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
>single duck !!

they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
break it into eight pieces.
Janet US

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:41:20 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 14:26:54 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 16:20:24 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 09:03:46 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> snip
>>>>I love your sliced lamb roast. It looks like it must have been a
>>>>large roast. I can't have that here as my husband doesn't like lamb
>>>>and I would never be able to eat all that. Congrats on making a wide
>>>>variety of food and it all looks good.
>>>>Janet US
>>>
>>>Being on my own and loving roast lamb, I roast a lamb shank sometimes.
>>>Do it slowly and it's a good roast lamb meal for one
>>
>> Did you see the lovely rare roast that he had. I love rare lamb.
>
>You must be referring to this:
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwert...2823/lightbox/
>
>That's a partial Costco lamb leg. I cut off a few muscles to use for
>either vindaloo or gyro. That herb crust was excellent.
>
>-sw

that lamb roast was beautifully cooked. Do you remember how you made
the herb crust?
Janet US

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:05:11 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:55:00 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >
>> >> > wrote in message
>> >> > > ...
>> >> > >
>> >> >>> The last time you posted a picture of anything you've cooked
>> was >> 90 >>> years ago.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I believe the last time she did, you carped about her kitchen
>> >> > > instead of the food.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Cheri
>> >> >
>> >> > Yup. Something about my wallpaper, or maybe he didnt like my
>> spice >> > cabinet and then there was another time he didn't like my
>> stove. >> > It's endless. It's never about the food, but the
>> background. >>
>> >> The trick is to pay no attention to his proclamations of "my way is
>> >> the only way" as you already know.
>> >>
>> >> Cheri
>> >
>> > Yup. Now Steve is on a rant about crockpots. I havent posted a
>> > crockpot recipe picture in proabably 2 years and here's SW with an
>> > issue.
>> >
>> > No wonder so many won't post pictures now. We got tired of the
>> > #$%$^ we get.
>> > Carol
>>
>> You've yet to post a picture of anything you've cooked.. least not in
>> the last twenty years.
>
>You are an idiot. I've posted more pictures on food than you do. I only
>havent posted in the last 6 months because you were a total asshole on
>the side views where you didnt like my kitchen.
>
>Oh, you didnt like my counter top, my stove, my fridge, or floor
>either. I think the only thing you refrained from abusing was my blind
>dog.

Tell me it isn't so?? You have finally had an epiphany moment where
he is concerned. How long ago did you lecture me I should take no
notice of his crude comments, that was just him? That you were both
navy types and understood each other lol

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:36:37 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 09:03:46 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 03:21:16 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz/
>>>
>>>You won't find a single photo in there that looks like it came out of
>>>a crock pot. What did you cook in the last 2 days?
>>
>> I love your sliced lamb roast. It looks like it must have been a
>> large roast. I can't have that here as my husband doesn't like lamb
>> and I would never be able to eat all that. Congrats on making a wide
>> variety of food and it all looks good.
>
>Thanks. I have lots of lamb in there. If it was a roast it was most
>likely a boneless leg from Costco. I've done a whole shoulder roast,
>too, more than few racks of rib chops, and lot of lamb gyro ion there,
>too - probably my favorite.
>
>-sw

I like shoulder roast even more than leg, but would not be interested
in roasting a boneless leg - loss of potential flavour, but YMMV

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:41:20 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 14:26:54 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 16:20:24 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 09:03:46 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>> snip
>>>>I love your sliced lamb roast. It looks like it must have been a
>>>>large roast. I can't have that here as my husband doesn't like lamb
>>>>and I would never be able to eat all that. Congrats on making a wide
>>>>variety of food and it all looks good.
>>>>Janet US
>>>
>>>Being on my own and loving roast lamb, I roast a lamb shank sometimes.
>>>Do it slowly and it's a good roast lamb meal for one
>>
>> Did you see the lovely rare roast that he had. I love rare lamb.
>
>You must be referring to this:
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwert...2823/lightbox/
>
>That's a partial Costco lamb leg. I cut off a few muscles to use for
>either vindaloo or gyro. That herb crust was excellent.
>
>-sw

Looks great, next time, pls give me an invite

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 08:58:30 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>> >
>>>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>
>>>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
>>>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
>>>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
>>>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
>>>
>>>
>>>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
>>>sitting I think.
>>>
>>>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
>>>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
>>>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
>>>duck.
>>>
>>>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>
>>I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
>>the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
>>feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
>>that fed four of us handily.
>>
>>I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
>>single duck !!
>
>they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
>What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
>break it into eight pieces.
>Janet US

Thanks for a good laugh Janet

On 2017-11-28 11:11 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:36:37 -0600, Sqwertz >
-sw
>
> I like shoulder roast even more than leg, but would not be interested
> in roasting a boneless leg - loss of potential flavour, but YMMV
>

My wife used to do a rolled lamb shoulder with a bunch of herbs. It was
delicious, but he had it so many times I tired of it. Now we stick to
legs. However, I had wonderful shoulder in a Chinese restaurant in San
Francisco when I was there a couple years ago. It was cut into thin
slices, dusted with some spices and maybe cornstarch and crispy fried.
It was amazing.

On 11/27/2017 11:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:43:40 AM UTC-10, Casa de perritos felices wrote:
>> On 11/27/2017 12:19 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:36:38 AM UTC-10, Casa de perritos felices wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ha!
>>>>
>>>> The eponymous green bean casserole is a generation-proof dish.
>>>>
>>>> I like it!
>>>
>>> Well, not over here. I never had green bean casserole until I went to the mainland for my brother-in-law's funeral. It was a Thanksgiving/remembrance type deal. This lit a spark in my younger son who started making big batches of green bean casserole for parties. This inspired my daughter and older son's girlfriend to start making this dish. I like my daughter's and son's recipe better because they use canned beans and canned soup to make theirs. Hee hee.
>>
>> OMG, you have brought back an invasive culinary tradition to your rock.
>>
>> If this progresses to Jello molds, well...
>>
>> :=)
>>
>>
>>> We had eaten dinner at the daughter's house. She and her kids made some meat pies that her late dad liked. That was the first time I saw meat pies like that and it inspired me to make my own. It's funny how these thing ripple outwards like that.
>>
>> Did those Vietnamese ones I linked you to look good?
>>
>> https://theculinarychronicles.com/20...ory-meat-pies/
>>
>> So simple with puff pastry dough and every bit as tasty as the ones we
>> get at a local VN eatery.
>>
>>>
>>> It was a most memorable trip. My wife's brothers told the story of how they picked up B.Dylan hitchhiking and the amazing adventure they had. My sister-in-law read a letter by her late brother requesting a photo made by Ansel Adams of his aunt dancing with a bear. Their aunt took them camping and it was there that they met this famous photographer. As usual, the brothers had no idea who the guy was. He must have been quite smitten with their aunt. The letter is a hoot and I'm trying to get my sister-in-law to transcribe it. I've never seen this aunt/bear photo. Maybe one day...
>>>
>>
>>
>> A bear dance?
>>
>> Magical.
>>
>> https://i.pinimg.com/236x/09/4f/66/0...e28fccd30e.jpg
>
> That's the way it is when you're on one of the most geographically isolated rocks on earth. An invasive plant or animal can come over here and take over the joint.
>
> http://www.unrealhawaii.com/2014/05/...oceros-beetle/
>
> The puff pastry pies look fine. One of these days, I'll try making it. Thanks.
>

My pleasure.

I just finished watching the 2nd episode of PBS' "Expeditions" look at
the Catalina Island Conservancy and was shocked to see that rock still
harboring 130 or so carefully managed Bison - remnants of some
Hollyweird filming decades ago.

http://www.pbs.org/video/expeditions...jewel-pacific/

or

http://video.scetv.org/show/expediti...rick-mcmillan/

Yeah it's possible to play God and dart them with birth control, but why?

Tourism is why.

And with all the species that are truly unique to that island I find it
absurd for "conservationists" to maintain an artificial ecosystem of
their own construct while still saving the real one.

Your article is deeply troubling as a climax state photo essay of the
law of unintended consequences.

I call them "stupid human tricks".

On 11/27/2017 11:36 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:45:03 AM UTC-10, Casa de perritos felices wrote:
>> On 11/27/2017 12:23 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 7:21:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 11:28:39 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be delighted to eat at Dsi1's house.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>
>>>> We had dinner with the kids. My daughter made baked macaroni and cheese and
>>>> green bean casserole. She also made some mashed cauliflower, small sweet
>>>> peppers stuffed with vegan cream cheese. My son's girlfriend also made green
>>>> bean casserole.
>>>>
>>>> Near as I can figure, the younger generation are fascinated with green bean
>>>> casserole. They both made stuffing and yams too. The kids are exploring new,
>>>> exotic, foods i.e., mainland style cooking.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...RWk4ytD0fGpBS2
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> I've never had green bean casserole. Perhaps I should look into it .. or
>>>> come and eat at your house <g>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>
>>> We've got green bean casserole coming out of our ears over here. It's not something I'd make myself - I'm somewhat leery of going down that road.
>>>
>>
>>
>> To ease the journey be sure and put plenty of these on top:
>>
>> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/94/0c...d97e257d30.jpg
>
> My daughter puts that on top - wonderful stuff. I've never had it before.
>
The Vietnamese place I favor always has crispy fried shallots sprinkled
over their vermicelli bowls.

Totally rocks.

The latest of the far too many sub shops(Which Wich) offers deep fried
onion strings as a sammich topping and man do they add some texture and
flavor to an otherwise mundane sammy.

https://www.whichwich.com/menu/

On 11/27/2017 11:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 10:44:17 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> All good) Now, about those meat pies ... ? <g>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
> The meat pies were fine. Tonight I made meatloaf. It was ground beef with chorizo, sweet peppers, mashed cauliflower, and other stuff. It was a good meatloaf.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...jaJQO9cTZo5S90
>

Served with safron rice?

Heck yes.

On 2017-11-28 9:12 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:41:20 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 14:26:54 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 16:20:24 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 09:03:46 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>> snip
>>>>> I love your sliced lamb roast. It looks like it must have been a
>>>>> large roast. I can't have that here as my husband doesn't like lamb
>>>>> and I would never be able to eat all that. Congrats on making a wide
>>>>> variety of food and it all looks good.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> Being on my own and loving roast lamb, I roast a lamb shank sometimes.
>>>> Do it slowly and it's a good roast lamb meal for one
>>>
>>> Did you see the lovely rare roast that he had. I love rare lamb.
>>
>> You must be referring to this:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwert...2823/lightbox/
>>
>> That's a partial Costco lamb leg. I cut off a few muscles to use for
>> either vindaloo or gyro. That herb crust was excellent.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Looks great, next time, pls give me an invite
>
When I roast a gigot, I always make Shrewsbury Sauce to go with it.
Graham

On 11/28/2017 9:07 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:41:20 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 14:26:54 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 16:20:24 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 09:03:46 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>>> snip
>>>>> I love your sliced lamb roast. It looks like it must have been a
>>>>> large roast. I can't have that here as my husband doesn't like lamb
>>>>> and I would never be able to eat all that. Congrats on making a wide
>>>>> variety of food and it all looks good.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> Being on my own and loving roast lamb, I roast a lamb shank sometimes.
>>>> Do it slowly and it's a good roast lamb meal for one
>>>
>>> Did you see the lovely rare roast that he had. I love rare lamb.
>>
>> You must be referring to this:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwert...2823/lightbox/
>>
>> That's a partial Costco lamb leg. I cut off a few muscles to use for
>> either vindaloo or gyro. That herb crust was excellent.
>>
>> -sw
>
> that lamb roast was beautifully cooked. Do you remember how you made
> the herb crust?
> Janet US
>

Well first he had to stalk a ewe...and then...

On 11/28/2017 12:40 PM, Boner troll socked up as Sqwertz and forged:
>
> Well first he had to stalk a ewe...and then...
>
Shaddup

On 11/28/2017 10:47 AM, Casa de perritos felices wrote:
> On 11/28/2017 12:40 PM, Boner troll socked up as Sqwertz and forged:
>>
>> Well first he had to stalk a ewe...and then...
> >
> Shaddup


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On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:58:39 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> >>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>
> >>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>> >
> >>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >
> >>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
> >>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
> >>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
> >>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
> >>
> >>
> >>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
> >>sitting I think.
> >>
> >>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
> >>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
> >>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
> >>duck.
> >>
> >>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
> >>
> >> Carol
> >
> >I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
> >the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
> >feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
> >that fed four of us handily.
> >
> >I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
> >single duck !!
>
> they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
> What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
> break it into eight pieces.
> Janet US

Boy, you sound like Sheldon. An ounce or two of meat in a soup,
stir-fry, or bowl of noodles can be as much as many people need.

A 5-pound duck (let's go with what seems average, rather than the
big 8-pounder) would be maybe 2 or 2.5 pounds of meat? So, 32-40
ounces. 40 ounces of meat for 10 servings would be 4 ounces each.
So, the same amount as a McDonald's Quarter Pounder. Not too bad.
Maybe a bit less if the yield is smaller.

Don't forget, we're talking about family dinner, not a dinner party
for guests. For three people, those 10 servings will go three meals.
Definitely worth turning on the oven.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:51:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:58:39 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >>
>> >>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> >>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >
>> >>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
>> >>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
>> >>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
>> >>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jill
>> >>
>> >>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
>> >>sitting I think.
>> >>
>> >>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
>> >>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
>> >>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
>> >>duck.
>> >>
>> >>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
>> >>
>> >> Carol
>> >
>> >I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
>> >the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
>> >feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
>> >that fed four of us handily.
>> >
>> >I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
>> >single duck !!
>>
>> they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
>> What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
>> break it into eight pieces.
>> Janet US
>
>Boy, you sound like Sheldon. An ounce or two of meat in a soup,
>stir-fry, or bowl of noodles can be as much as many people need.
>
>A 5-pound duck (let's go with what seems average, rather than the
>big 8-pounder) would be maybe 2 or 2.5 pounds of meat? So, 32-40
>ounces. 40 ounces of meat for 10 servings would be 4 ounces each.
>So, the same amount as a McDonald's Quarter Pounder. Not too bad.
>Maybe a bit less if the yield is smaller.
>
>Don't forget, we're talking about family dinner, not a dinner party
>for guests. For three people, those 10 servings will go three meals.
>Definitely worth turning on the oven.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I think you are not allowing for the very poor ratio of meat to bone
in a duck. A single duck thigh, or drum stick doesn't really make a
true serving of meat, there is still a lot of bone in it. I could
divide a turkey drum into two servings and be perfectly happy, but not
duck. At no point on the duck carcass would I consider the meat to be
thick, it's part of the reason why it should be cooked carefully and
possibly why so many people will say they don't like duck, it's
because they have not had it cooked properly.

Put it this way - I have fed duck to family and to guests and at a
ratio of four servings per duck with a scoop of stuffing to go with
it, there were no leftovers. Nor did any plates have anything
rejected

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 3:54:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:51:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:58:39 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >> >>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > >
> >> >
> >> >>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
> >> >>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
> >> >>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
> >> >>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Jill
> >> >>
> >> >>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
> >> >>sitting I think.
> >> >>
> >> >>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
> >> >>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
> >> >>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
> >> >>duck.
> >> >>
> >> >>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
> >> >>
> >> >> Carol
> >> >
> >> >I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
> >> >the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
> >> >feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
> >> >that fed four of us handily.
> >> >
> >> >I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
> >> >single duck !!
> >>
> >> they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
> >> What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
> >> break it into eight pieces.
> >> Janet US
> >
> >Boy, you sound like Sheldon. An ounce or two of meat in a soup,
> >stir-fry, or bowl of noodles can be as much as many people need.
> >
> >A 5-pound duck (let's go with what seems average, rather than the
> >big 8-pounder) would be maybe 2 or 2.5 pounds of meat? So, 32-40
> >ounces. 40 ounces of meat for 10 servings would be 4 ounces each.
> >So, the same amount as a McDonald's Quarter Pounder. Not too bad.
> >Maybe a bit less if the yield is smaller.
> >
> >Don't forget, we're talking about family dinner, not a dinner party
> >for guests. For three people, those 10 servings will go three meals.
> >Definitely worth turning on the oven.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> I think you are not allowing for the very poor ratio of meat to bone
> in a duck. A single duck thigh, or drum stick doesn't really make a
> true serving of meat, there is still a lot of bone in it. I could
> divide a turkey drum into two servings and be perfectly happy, but not
> duck. At no point on the duck carcass would I consider the meat to be
> thick, it's part of the reason why it should be cooked carefully and
> possibly why so many people will say they don't like duck, it's
> because they have not had it cooked properly.
>
> Put it this way - I have fed duck to family and to guests and at a
> ratio of four servings per duck with a scoop of stuffing to go with
> it, there were no leftovers. Nor did any plates have anything
> rejected

You still appear to be talking about a piece of duck sitting on
a plate. I'm talking about duck meat in a soup or bowl of noodles.
It'll go much farther served that way.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 08:58:30 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>> >
>>>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>
>>>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
>>>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
>>>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
>>>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
>>>
>>>
>>>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
>>>sitting I think.
>>>
>>>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
>>>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
>>>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
>>>duck.
>>>
>>>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>
>>I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
>>the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
>>feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
>>that fed four of us handily.
>>
>>I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
>>single duck !!
>
>they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
>What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
>break it into eight pieces.
>Janet US

On Lung Guyland my favorite meal to eat out was Duck la
Orange, half a Long Island duckling with stuffing, orange sauce, and a
local veggie. Without the stuffing and side(s) it wouldn't be enough
to feed a [normal] adult.
You'd not want to eat wild duck, deer ain't anywhere's near gamey
compared to wild duck. One of my friends was a duck hunter, he gave
me two ducks and asked if I could cook the gaminess out of them...
can't be done unless you're a Native American from 300 years ago. Wild
duck is like seal meat, very stinky fishy.

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:35:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 3:54:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:51:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:58:39 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> >> >>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
>> >> >>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
>> >> >>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
>> >> >>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Jill
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
>> >> >>sitting I think.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
>> >> >>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
>> >> >>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
>> >> >>duck.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Carol
>> >> >
>> >> >I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
>> >> >the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
>> >> >feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
>> >> >that fed four of us handily.
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
>> >> >single duck !!
>> >>
>> >> they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
>> >> What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
>> >> break it into eight pieces.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >Boy, you sound like Sheldon. An ounce or two of meat in a soup,
>> >stir-fry, or bowl of noodles can be as much as many people need.
>> >
>> >A 5-pound duck (let's go with what seems average, rather than the
>> >big 8-pounder) would be maybe 2 or 2.5 pounds of meat? So, 32-40
>> >ounces. 40 ounces of meat for 10 servings would be 4 ounces each.
>> >So, the same amount as a McDonald's Quarter Pounder. Not too bad.
>> >Maybe a bit less if the yield is smaller.
>> >
>> >Don't forget, we're talking about family dinner, not a dinner party
>> >for guests. For three people, those 10 servings will go three meals.
>> >Definitely worth turning on the oven.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I think you are not allowing for the very poor ratio of meat to bone
>> in a duck. A single duck thigh, or drum stick doesn't really make a
>> true serving of meat, there is still a lot of bone in it. I could
>> divide a turkey drum into two servings and be perfectly happy, but not
>> duck. At no point on the duck carcass would I consider the meat to be
>> thick, it's part of the reason why it should be cooked carefully and
>> possibly why so many people will say they don't like duck, it's
>> because they have not had it cooked properly.
>>
>> Put it this way - I have fed duck to family and to guests and at a
>> ratio of four servings per duck with a scoop of stuffing to go with
>> it, there were no leftovers. Nor did any plates have anything
>> rejected
>
>You still appear to be talking about a piece of duck sitting on
>a plate. I'm talking about duck meat in a soup or bowl of noodles.
>It'll go much farther served that way.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Yes, that is true. Roast duck, to me, is a piece of duck on a plate
with veggies Never been enough left here to make soup, and I
consider too high for my budget to buy to make a bowl of soup.

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:51:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:58:39 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >>
>> >>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> >>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >
>> >>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
>> >>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
>> >>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
>> >>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jill
>> >>
>> >>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
>> >>sitting I think.
>> >>
>> >>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
>> >>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
>> >>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
>> >>duck.
>> >>
>> >>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
>> >>
>> >> Carol
>> >
>> >I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
>> >the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
>> >feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
>> >that fed four of us handily.
>> >
>> >I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
>> >single duck !!
>>
>> they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
>> What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
>> break it into eight pieces.
>> Janet US
>
>Boy, you sound like Sheldon. An ounce or two of meat in a soup,
>stir-fry, or bowl of noodles can be as much as many people need.
>
>A 5-pound duck (let's go with what seems average, rather than the
>big 8-pounder) would be maybe 2 or 2.5 pounds of meat? So, 32-40
>ounces. 40 ounces of meat for 10 servings would be 4 ounces each.
>So, the same amount as a McDonald's Quarter Pounder. Not too bad.
>Maybe a bit less if the yield is smaller.
>
>Don't forget, we're talking about family dinner, not a dinner party
>for guests. For three people, those 10 servings will go three meals.
>Definitely worth turning on the oven.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

You haven't a duck's ass clue, farmed ducks yield maybe a pound of
meat, and most won't eat the fatty dark meat. One farmed duck will
feed four children or two not very hungry adults... most of a duck is
waste unless you value the fat. There's not all that much edible meat
on a goose either. Long Island is duck and goose country, I've eaten
a lot of both... tasty but not a whole lot of meat. Go to dine in NYC
Chinatown and order peking duck, unless you order several sides you'll
walk out hungry... I've always considered peking duck a little more
than an appetizer.

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:10:35 -0500, wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:51:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>Boy, you sound like Sheldon. An ounce or two of meat in a soup,
>>stir-fry, or bowl of noodles can be as much as many people need.
>>
>>A 5-pound duck (let's go with what seems average, rather than the
>>big 8-pounder) would be maybe 2 or 2.5 pounds of meat? So, 32-40
>>ounces. 40 ounces of meat for 10 servings would be 4 ounces each.
>>So, the same amount as a McDonald's Quarter Pounder. Not too bad.
>>Maybe a bit less if the yield is smaller.
>>
>>Don't forget, we're talking about family dinner, not a dinner party
>>for guests. For three people, those 10 servings will go three meals.
>>Definitely worth turning on the oven.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>You haven't a duck's ass clue, farmed ducks yield maybe a pound of
>meat, and most won't eat the fatty dark meat. One farmed duck will
>feed four children or two not very hungry adults... most of a duck is
>waste unless you value the fat. There's not all that much edible meat
>on a goose either. Long Island is duck and goose country, I've eaten
>a lot of both... tasty but not a whole lot of meat. Go to dine in NYC
>Chinatown and order peking duck, unless you order several sides you'll
>walk out hungry... I've always considered peking duck a little more
>than an appetizer.

Maybe you eat much more than an average person. It would explain why
you're so full of it.

U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>Being on my own and loving roast lamb, I roast a lamb shank sometimes.

If you didn't cook lamb you very likely wouldn't be all on your own.

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:35:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 3:54:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:51:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:58:39 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:19:22 -0400, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> >> >>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I bought a
>> >> >>> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer section. A
>> >> >>> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I could not have
>> >> >>> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty meat-eaters.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Jill
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much 8 lbs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at one
>> >> >>sitting I think.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking pre-cooked 1/2
>> >> >>duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a full duck. We are low
>> >> >>meat eaters so for us that's 10-12 servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw
>> >> >>duck.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other cooking.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Carol
>> >> >
>> >> >I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw, and
>> >> >the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will NOT
>> >> >feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years ago and
>> >> >that fed four of us handily.
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with a
>> >> >single duck !!
>> >>
>> >> they don't eat much meat so are happy with an ounce of meat each.
>> >> What a waste of cooking heat. Be better to get a protein bar and
>> >> break it into eight pieces.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >Boy, you sound like Sheldon. An ounce or two of meat in a soup,
>> >stir-fry, or bowl of noodles can be as much as many people need.
>> >
>> >A 5-pound duck (let's go with what seems average, rather than the
>> >big 8-pounder) would be maybe 2 or 2.5 pounds of meat? So, 32-40
>> >ounces. 40 ounces of meat for 10 servings would be 4 ounces each.
>> >So, the same amount as a McDonald's Quarter Pounder. Not too bad.
>> >Maybe a bit less if the yield is smaller.
>> >
>> >Don't forget, we're talking about family dinner, not a dinner party
>> >for guests. For three people, those 10 servings will go three meals.
>> >Definitely worth turning on the oven.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I think you are not allowing for the very poor ratio of meat to bone
>> in a duck. A single duck thigh, or drum stick doesn't really make a
>> true serving of meat, there is still a lot of bone in it. I could
>> divide a turkey drum into two servings and be perfectly happy, but not
>> duck. At no point on the duck carcass would I consider the meat to be
>> thick, it's part of the reason why it should be cooked carefully and
>> possibly why so many people will say they don't like duck, it's
>> because they have not had it cooked properly.
>>
>> Put it this way - I have fed duck to family and to guests and at a
>> ratio of four servings per duck with a scoop of stuffing to go with
>> it, there were no leftovers. Nor did any plates have anything
>> rejected
>
>You still appear to be talking about a piece of duck sitting on
>a plate. I'm talking about duck meat in a soup or bowl of noodles.
>It'll go much farther served that way.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

we were discussing roast duck servings as that is what Jill ate

On 11/28/2017 3:35 PM, wrote:
> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> Being on my own and loving roast lamb, I roast a lamb shank sometimes.
>
> If you didn't cook lamb you very likely wouldn't be all on your own.
>

The dislike of lamb is not a good thing.

Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 8:19:32 AM UTC-5,
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:16:10 -0600, "cshenk" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > >> On 11/26/2017 6:32 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > >> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >> >
> > >> >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:24:24 -0600, "cshenk" >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >
> >
> > >> Eight pounds? Sorry but I've never seen an 8 lb. duck. I
> > bought a >> half a small duck. Already roasted. From the freezer
> > section. A >> quarter of a duck was enough for me at one meal. I
> > could not have >> fed six or 8 people even if they were heavy fatty
> > meat-eaters. >>
> > >> Jill
> > >
> > > Sorry Jill. I get commercial farmed ones. They run pretty much
> > > 8 lbs.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lucrecia was the one with an issue with that much fatty meat at
> > > one sitting I think.
> > >
> > > Note I was talking pre-cooking weight. You are talking
> > > pre-cooked 1/2 duck and got 4 meals. Thats same as my 8 off a
> > > full duck. We are low meat eaters so for us that's 10-12
> > > servings off an 8lb frozen whole raw duck.
> > >
> > > We do the whole ones so we can also save the duck fat for other
> > > cooking.
> > >
> > > Carol
> >
> > I am talking commercially raised ducks also! What they weigh raw,
> > and the eventual outcome (given you have cooked it correctly) will
> > NOT feed 8, just a bite maybe. I have even had Eider duck years
> > ago and that fed four of us handily.
> >
> > I'm outta here, you're the only person known to have fed 10-12 with
> > a single duck !!
>
> For many people, meat is the garnish, not the meal.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Correct, we get about 3oz each of cooked meat. We also get some fairly
awesome bone broth from the rest plus all the duck fat for other uses.

We are closer in eating to USDA guidelines I guess? I've always heard
USA folks eat more meat at every meal, but I am suprised that a whole
duck doesn't feed 8 to some here. I will grant there is a lot of bone
in a duck, but there still something like 4lbs of meat in a whole duck.
Cooked down, it's 20% fat or so loss. 60oz raw meat drops to 45oz.
Thats 5oz per serving if making 8.

--

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:05:11 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:55:00 -0600, "cshenk" >
> wrote: >>
> >> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >
> >> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > wrote in message
> >> >> > > ...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >>> The last time you posted a picture of anything you've cooked
> >> was >> 90 >>> years ago.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I believe the last time she did, you carped about her
> kitchen >> >> > > instead of the food.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Cheri
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yup. Something about my wallpaper, or maybe he didnt like my
> >> spice >> > cabinet and then there was another time he didn't like
> my >> stove. >> > It's endless. It's never about the food, but the
> >> background. >>
> >> >> The trick is to pay no attention to his proclamations of "my
> way is >> >> the only way" as you already know.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheri
> >> >
> >> > Yup. Now Steve is on a rant about crockpots. I havent posted a
> >> > crockpot recipe picture in proabably 2 years and here's SW with
> an >> > issue.
> >> >
> >> > No wonder so many won't post pictures now. We got tired of the
> >> > #$%$^ we get.
> >> > Carol
> >>
> >> You've yet to post a picture of anything you've cooked.. least not
> in >> the last twenty years.
> >
> > You are an idiot. I've posted more pictures on food than you do. I
> > only havent posted in the last 6 months because you were a total
> > asshole on the side views where you didnt like my kitchen.
> >
> > Oh, you didnt like my counter top, my stove, my fridge, or floor
> > either. I think the only thing you refrained from abusing was my
> > blind dog.
>
> Tell me it isn't so?? You have finally had an epiphany moment where
> he is concerned. How long ago did you lecture me I should take no
> notice of his crude comments, that was just him? That you were both
> navy types and understood each other lol

Give it up. You've been playing that game too many years and ignoring
it totally that I'm the main one that has been giving him a red ass all
these years then blaming me for his antics.

--

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:52:03 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:05:11 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:55:00 -0600, "cshenk" >
>> wrote: >>
>> >> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > wrote in message
>> >> >> > > ...
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >>> The last time you posted a picture of anything you've cooked
>> >> was >> 90 >>> years ago.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I believe the last time she did, you carped about her
>> kitchen >> >> > > instead of the food.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Cheri
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yup. Something about my wallpaper, or maybe he didnt like my
>> >> spice >> > cabinet and then there was another time he didn't like
>> my >> stove. >> > It's endless. It's never about the food, but the
>> >> background. >>
>> >> >> The trick is to pay no attention to his proclamations of "my
>> way is >> >> the only way" as you already know.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheri
>> >> >
>> >> > Yup. Now Steve is on a rant about crockpots. I havent posted a
>> >> > crockpot recipe picture in proabably 2 years and here's SW with
>> an >> > issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > No wonder so many won't post pictures now. We got tired of the
>> >> > #$%$^ we get.
>> >> > Carol
>> >>
>> >> You've yet to post a picture of anything you've cooked.. least not
>> in >> the last twenty years.
>> >
>> > You are an idiot. I've posted more pictures on food than you do. I
>> > only havent posted in the last 6 months because you were a total
>> > asshole on the side views where you didnt like my kitchen.
>> >
>> > Oh, you didnt like my counter top, my stove, my fridge, or floor
>> > either. I think the only thing you refrained from abusing was my
>> > blind dog.
>>
>> Tell me it isn't so?? You have finally had an epiphany moment where
>> he is concerned. How long ago did you lecture me I should take no
>> notice of his crude comments, that was just him? That you were both
>> navy types and understood each other lol
>
>Give it up. You've been playing that game too many years and ignoring
>it totally that I'm the main one that has been giving him a red ass all
>these years then blaming me for his antics.

We were getting along just fine with Sheldon before you. We ignored
or spit back. We don't need you, especially we don't need you
speaking for us.
And yes. We all remember the years that you lectured in his favor.

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:52:03 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:05:11 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:55:00 -0600, "cshenk" >
>> wrote: >>
>> >> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> > Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > wrote in message
>> >> >> > > ...
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >>> The last time you posted a picture of anything you've cooked
>> >> was >> 90 >>> years ago.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I believe the last time she did, you carped about her
>> kitchen >> >> > > instead of the food.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Cheri
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yup. Something about my wallpaper, or maybe he didnt like my
>> >> spice >> > cabinet and then there was another time he didn't like
>> my >> stove. >> > It's endless. It's never about the food, but the
>> >> background. >>
>> >> >> The trick is to pay no attention to his proclamations of "my
>> way is >> >> the only way" as you already know.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheri
>> >> >
>> >> > Yup. Now Steve is on a rant about crockpots. I havent posted a
>> >> > crockpot recipe picture in proabably 2 years and here's SW with
>> an >> > issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > No wonder so many won't post pictures now. We got tired of the
>> >> > #$%$^ we get.
>> >> > Carol
>> >>
>> >> You've yet to post a picture of anything you've cooked.. least not
>> in >> the last twenty years.
>> >
>> > You are an idiot. I've posted more pictures on food than you do. I
>> > only havent posted in the last 6 months because you were a total
>> > asshole on the side views where you didnt like my kitchen.
>> >
>> > Oh, you didnt like my counter top, my stove, my fridge, or floor
>> > either. I think the only thing you refrained from abusing was my
>> > blind dog.
>>
>> Tell me it isn't so?? You have finally had an epiphany moment where
>> he is concerned. How long ago did you lecture me I should take no
>> notice of his crude comments, that was just him? That you were both
>> navy types and understood each other lol
>
>Give it up. You've been playing that game too many years and ignoring
>it totally that I'm the main one that has been giving him a red ass all
>these years then blaming me for his antics.

Nope, that is so far from the truth its a marathon.

On 11/28/2017 4:35 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> You still appear to be talking about a piece of duck sitting on
> a plate. I'm talking about duck meat in a soup or bowl of noodles.
> It'll go much farther served that way.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Well, I had 1/4 of a roasted duck sitting on my plate on Thanksgiving.
Did something get lost in the translation? Carol didn't mention soup or
bits of duck added to a bowl of noodles. She said an eight pound duck
and things took off from there. I really don't want to buy a big duck
(assuming I could find one).

Jill

On 11/28/2017 6:38 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:35:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
(much snippage)
>>
>> You still appear to be talking about a piece of duck sitting on
>> a plate. I'm talking about duck meat in a soup or bowl of noodles.
>> It'll go much farther served that way.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> we were discussing roast duck servings as that is what Jill ate
>
Thank you, Janet, that's what I posted a picture of. A quarter of a
duck with cornbread dressing and broccoli sitting on a plate. From
personal experience: I get two servings out of half a duck.

Jill

On 11/28/2017 6:01 PM, wrote:
>> Give it up. You've been playing that game too many years and ignoring
>> it totally that I'm the main one that has been giving him a red ass all
>> these years then blaming me for his antics.
> Nope, that is so far from the truth its a marathon.

Interesting how you vermin-evil posters are now being exposed and
disposed of.

About time too.

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 8:47:07 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 11/28/2017 4:35 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > You still appear to be talking about a piece of duck sitting on
> > a plate. I'm talking about duck meat in a soup or bowl of noodles.
> > It'll go much farther served that way.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Well, I had 1/4 of a roasted duck sitting on my plate on Thanksgiving.
> Did something get lost in the translation? Carol didn't mention soup or
> bits of duck added to a bowl of noodles. She said an eight pound duck
> and things took off from there. I really don't want to buy a big duck
> (assuming I could find one).
>

No, she didn't mention any of that. I was extrapolating ways to stretch
duck meat so that everybody in the family would feel satisfied with the
meal.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 01:19:43 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:07:32 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 20:41:20 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>You must be referring to this:
>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwert...2823/lightbox/
>>>
>>>That's a partial Costco lamb leg. I cut off a few muscles to use for
>>>either vindaloo or gyro. That herb crust was excellent.
>>
>> that lamb roast was beautifully cooked. Do you remember how you made
>> the herb crust?
>
>I can't remember the exact herbs I used, probably mostly sage,
>rosemary, and thyme (OK, and parsley, too - to make it a Scarborough
>Fair) but I remember I vacuum sealed it after applying the seasonings
>and let it dry brine for at least a day - made the spices stick. Then
>into a hot oven which I turned down low right after I put in the
>roast. I probably did that at 235F or less.
>
>-sw

there's a reason the song works. I often hear myself muttering that
to myself as I pick herbs for seasoning something. :-)
So the slow oven was responsible for the even cooking of the rare
meat. Thanks
Janet US

On 11/29/2017 12:19 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I probably did that at 235F or less.
>
> -sw
>
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> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>
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>
> Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!!
>
> - sw
> Do not let "Oscar" near your food. He was obliviously digging
> boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand
> while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer
> next to me, not mine. Otherwise I would have made a stink about it
> right then, and with no mercy.
>
> Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this
review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate
about my experience (Oscar + overcharges). Sprouts has never responded
or offered a refund. They'll probably complain about this review, though.
>
> They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food.

On 11/29/2017 4:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 8:47:07 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 11/28/2017 4:35 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> You still appear to be talking about a piece of duck sitting on
>>> a plate. I'm talking about duck meat in a soup or bowl of noodles.
>>> It'll go much farther served that way.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> Well, I had 1/4 of a roasted duck sitting on my plate on Thanksgiving.
>> Did something get lost in the translation? Carol didn't mention soup or
>> bits of duck added to a bowl of noodles. She said an eight pound duck
>> and things took off from there. I really don't want to buy a big duck
>> (assuming I could find one).
>>
>
> No, she didn't mention any of that. I was extrapolating ways to stretch
> duck meat so that everybody in the family would feel satisfied with the
> meal.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>



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One to consider - duck fried rice!

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2...ce-recipe.html

Ingredients
1/2 roasted duck (purchase from a Chinese Market)
1 bunch scallions, sliced
3 carrots, diced
2 large eggs
1/2 teaspoon soy sauce
3 cups cold cooked white rice
1/4 teaspoon sesame oil
Peanut oil


Of course one can add in other kitchen remnants like mushrooms, ginger, etc.

Also a dash of Hoi Sin and a wee sprinkle of 5 spice powder will mimic
that Pekin duck flavor.

On 11/29/2017 10:42 AM, Boner troll socked up as Sqwertz and forged:
> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me.

On 11/29/2017 9:03 AM, ardiente casa del amor wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 10:42 AM, Boner troll socked up as Sqwertz and forged:
>> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>> My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
> group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
> here.

It's hard to do more than GUFFAW at the longevity of the first grand
head salvo and the recurring dividends it yields yet.

:-)))))

On 11/29/2017 11:30 AM, ardiente casa del amor wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 9:03 AM, ardiente casa del amor wrote:
>> On 11/29/2017 10:42 AM, Boner troll socked up as Sqwertz and forged:
>>> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>>> My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
>> group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
>> here.
>
> It's hard to do more than GUFFAW at the longevity of the first grand
> head salvo and the recurring dividends it yields yet.
>
> :-)))))
>
>

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