20 years ago during a check-up, my Dr subjected me to the usual DRE and
found a lump. Today, Friday, is the 20th anniversary of the radical
prostatectomy that dealt with the cancer, which was already quite
advanced. The surgeon fortunately got it in time.
My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
husbands to do the same!

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 06:34:03 -0700, graham > wrote:

>20 years ago during a check-up, my Dr subjected me to the usual DRE and
>found a lump. Today, Friday, is the 20th anniversary of the radical
>prostatectomy that dealt with the cancer, which was already quite
>advanced. The surgeon fortunately got it in time.
>My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>husbands to do the same!

Congrats - that also applies to my eldest SIL, if it's not 20 years at
the moment, it's very close to.

On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:

> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
> husbands to do the same!

I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
get a PSA test.

<http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>

nb

On 2017-11-24 10:08 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>
>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>> husbands to do the same!
>
> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
> get a PSA test.
>
> <http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>

I get it regularly because my father had prostate cancer.

On a humorous note, a number of years ago I was talking with the father
of a good friend of mine. When I asked him how he was he said he was
pretty good for an old guy and related this story about how he had just
been to the doctor and had his prostate checked. .... in his words as
close as I remember.....

You know it's a pretty uncomfortable procedure and I always hate having
it done, and this was a new doctor and I wasn't sure that he knew what
he was doing. But it wasn't so bad. I don't know what he did different.
He stood behind me and had me bend over. He had his left hand on my
left cheek .... no, it was on my right cheek.... hmmmm he had a hand
on each cheek....... Son of a bitch!!!!.

On 11/24/2017 10:08 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>
>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>> husbands to do the same!
>
> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
> get a PSA test.
>
> <http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>
> nb
>
Oh dear. Maybe you'd just rather not have a rectal probe.

Jill

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:51:18 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 06:34:03 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>>20 years ago during a check-up, my Dr subjected me to the usual DRE and
>>found a lump. Today, Friday, is the 20th anniversary of the radical
>>prostatectomy that dealt with the cancer, which was already quite
>>advanced. The surgeon fortunately got it in time.
>>My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>>should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>>husbands to do the same!
>
>Congrats - that also applies to my eldest SIL, if it's not 20 years at
>the moment, it's very close to.

Your SIL gets a prostate exam?

I've been going to my Urologist once a year for a very long time...
Dr. Linda is very gentle and has long slender fingers... some male
doctors have fingers like kielbasas and have no finesse. My primary
care doc includes a PSA in my yearly blood work up. So far no
problems. Women need regular exams at their GYNs too and Mammograms
also. It always amazes me how many never see a doctor until it's too
late.

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:51:18 -0400, wrote:
>>Congrats - that also applies to my eldest SIL, if it's not 20 years at
>>the moment, it's very close to.
>
> Your SIL gets a prostate exam?

Son-In-Law

Cheri

On 24 Nov 2017 15:08:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>
>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>> husbands to do the same!
>
>I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
>was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
>PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
>This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
>get a PSA test.
>
><http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>
>nb

Written by a **** with no medical credentials whatsoever.
http://www.healthbeatblog.com/about-maggie-mahar/

On 11/24/2017 8:08 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>
>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>> husbands to do the same!
>
> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
> get a PSA test.
>
> <http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>
> nb
>

Wow, that's a depressing revealtion nb!

On 11/24/2017 11:42 AM, wrote:
> On 24 Nov 2017 15:08:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>>> husbands to do the same!
>>
>> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
>> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
>> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
>> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
>> get a PSA test.
>>
>> <http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>>
>> nb
>
> Written by a **** with no medical credentials whatsoever.
> http://www.healthbeatblog.com/about-maggie-mahar/
>

Tepid shoot the messenger, got a beef with that she reported?

On 2017-11-24 8:08 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>
>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>> husbands to do the same!
>
> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
> get a PSA test.
>
> <http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>
> nb
>
OTOH it has been shown to be a more reliable indicator of prostate
cancer than the mammogram is of breast cancer.
The death rate from PC has dropped in this area and the drs at the local
PC Centre (funded by a couple of wealthy oil men who copped it)
attribute this to PSA screening. In fact they have a converted motor
home called "The Man Van" that they drive to shopping centres etc
offering PSA tests.
Statistics show that the argument for screening is weak but statistics
are marvellous - until you become one!!!!

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 12:17:52 -0700, Casa de perritos felices
> wrote:

>On 11/24/2017 11:42 AM, wrote:
>> On 24 Nov 2017 15:08:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>>>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>>>> husbands to do the same!
>>>
>>> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
>>> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
>>> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
>>> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
>>> get a PSA test.
>>>
>>> <http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Written by a **** with no medical credentials whatsoever.
>> http://www.healthbeatblog.com/about-maggie-mahar/
>>
>
>Tepid shoot the messenger, got a beef with that she reported?

She made no point other than pandering to the cheapskates. I've known
several men who succumbed to prostate cancer simply because they were
too cheap to go for a ten second exam... and it's a rather inexpensive
procedure, costs no more than a walnut sized dollop of K-Y on a latex
glove. Most any GP will perform the exam during a regular office
visit but it's best to have it performed by someone who has had
special training for the procedure, which is why I go to a urologist.

So according to you it's best to forego any exams/testing and simply
wait until the cancer has progressed to the point of no return.
Prostate cancer when discovered early on is is very curable. No
medical procedure is 100% but why forego an inexpensive exam and test
and instead risk certain death. And in most cases the exam will
simply discover an enlarged prostate (very common in men over 50) and
and instead choose to suffer problems urinating and forego sexual
pleasure (an enlarged prostate prevents ejaculation). An enlarged
prostate is easily remedied with Rx meds... those OTC meds advertised
on TV are fakes, they cost a lot more than the Rx meds and don't work.
But aside from that topic it's much more important to discover cancer.

Any guy looking to marry a doctor choose a Urologist, that gal will
know more about your equipment than you will ever know. The very
first thing Dr. Linda did was test me for ED, she gave me a very clean
bill of health for that issue, actually she didn't need to do any
manual manipulation, a view down her blouse at her C cup cleavage was
all that was necessary, and I told her so... I can still imagine her
hand squeezing and tugging on me. Other than the fact that I'm old
enough to be her father I'd ask her to marry me... I'm thirty years
her senior, I can be her grandfather. However I have a problem
getting over the fact that every day she handles more pee pees than a
geisha. My next appointment with Dr. Linda is Sept. 7, 2018.

On 11/24/2017 3:57 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 12:17:52 -0700, Casa de perritos felices
> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/24/2017 11:42 AM, wrote:
>>> On 24 Nov 2017 15:08:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>>>>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>>>>> husbands to do the same!
>>>>
>>>> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
>>>> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
>>>> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
>>>> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
>>>> get a PSA test.
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> Written by a **** with no medical credentials whatsoever.
>>> http://www.healthbeatblog.com/about-maggie-mahar/
>>>
>>
>> Tepid shoot the messenger, got a beef with that she reported?
>
> She made no point other than pandering to the cheapskates.

I hate it when you go off on another of your "I know everything" rants.

READ and LEARN:

"Tuesday, the New York Times ran an Op-ed by Richard J. Ablin, the man
who invented the prostate-specific-antigen (PSA) test which is widely
used to detect signs of early-stage prostate cancer. Ablin, who is
now a research professor of immunobiology and pathology at the
University of Arizona College of Medicine and the president of the
Robert Benjamin Ablin Foundation for Cancer Research, reveals that €œin
approving the procedure, the Food and Drug Administration relied heavily
on a study that showed testing could detect 3.8 percent of prostate
cancers, which was a better rate than the standard method, a digital
rectal exam.


€œStill, 3.8 percent is a small number,€� he observes. €œNevertheless,
especially in the early days of screening, men with a reading over four
nanograms per milliliter were sent for painful prostate biopsies. If the
biopsy showed any signs of cancer, the patient was almost always pushed
into surgery, intensive radiation or other damaging treatments.€�

Prostate cancer is a tricky disease because the cancer grows so slowly.
A great many men who are diagnosed with prostate cancer will die of
something else€”long before the symptoms of the cancer catch up with
them. As Ablin points out , because PSA testing is pervasive, €œAmerican
men have a 16 percent lifetime chance of receiving a diagnosis of
prostate cancer, but only a 3 percent chance of dying from it.€�

This is why, in many cases, doctors recommend €œwatchful waiting.€� Keep
an eye on the cancer, but dont treat it unless there is evidence that
it is growing.

30 MILLION MEN, $30 BILLION DOLLARS €“LITTLE OR NO REDUCTION IN MORTALITIES?

Ablin has been frustrated by the widespread use of the test. Each year,
he notes, some 30 million men undergo PSA testing, at a cost of $30
Billion. Yet €œthe test is hardly more effective than a coin toss. As
Ive been trying to make clear for many years now, P.S.A. testing cant
detect prostate cancer and, more important, it cant distinguish between
the two types of prostate cancer €” the one that will kill you and the
one that wont. €œ


> I've known
> several men who succumbed to prostate cancer simply because they were
> too cheap to go for a ten second exam... and it's a rather inexpensive
> procedure, costs no more than a walnut sized dollop of K-Y on a latex
> glove. Most any GP will perform the exam during a regular office
> visit but it's best to have it performed by someone who has had
> special training for the procedure, which is why I go to a urologist.
>
> So according to you it's best to forego any exams/testing and simply
> wait until the cancer has progressed to the point of no return.
> Prostate cancer when discovered early on is is very curable. No
> medical procedure is 100% but why forego an inexpensive exam and test
> and instead risk certain death. And in most cases the exam will
> simply discover an enlarged prostate (very common in men over 50) and
> and instead choose to suffer problems urinating and forego sexual
> pleasure (an enlarged prostate prevents ejaculation). An enlarged
> prostate is easily remedied with Rx meds... those OTC meds advertised
> on TV are fakes, they cost a lot more than the Rx meds and don't work.
> But aside from that topic it's much more important to discover cancer.
>
> Any guy looking to marry a doctor choose a Urologist, that gal will
> know more about your equipment than you will ever know. The very
> first thing Dr. Linda did was test me for ED, she gave me a very clean
> bill of health for that issue, actually she didn't need to do any
> manual manipulation, a view down her blouse at her C cup cleavage was
> all that was necessary, and I told her so... I can still imagine her
> hand squeezing and tugging on me. Other than the fact that I'm old
> enough to be her father I'd ask her to marry me... I'm thirty years
> her senior, I can be her grandfather. However I have a problem
> getting over the fact that every day she handles more pee pees than a
> geisha. My next appointment with Dr. Linda is Sept. 7, 2018.
>

"Moreover, the benefits of treatment are uncertain. Last year, The New
England Journal of Medicine published results from the two largest
studies of the screening procedure, one in Europe and one in the United
States. The results from the American study that over a period of 7 to
10 years, screening did not reduce the death rate in men 55 and over.
The European study showed a small decline in death rates, but also found
that 48 men would need to be treated to save one life. €œThats 47 men
who, in all likelihood, can no longer function sexually or stay out of
the bathroom for long,€� Albin adds, referring to the fact that
treatments can lead to long-term incontinence and/or impotence.

He acknowledges that €œProstate-specific antigen testing does have a
place. After treatment for prostate cancer, for instance, a rapidly
rising score indicates a return of the disease. And men with a family
history of prostate cancer should probably get tested regularly. If
their score starts skyrocketing, it could mean cancer. But these uses
are limited. Testing should absolutely not be deployed to screen the
entire population of men over the age of 50, the outcome pushed by those
who stand to profit.€�

"Indeed, €œdrug companies continue peddling the tests and advocacy groups
push "prostate cancer awarenes€� by encouraging men to get screened.
Shamefully, the American Urological Association still recommends
screening. But slowly others in the medical community are responding to
the research. The American Cancer Society now urges more caution in
using the test and the American College of Preventive Medicine has
concluded that there was insufficient evidence to recommend routine
screening."

Inevitably, the posts drew some irate responses from readers who were
sure that they, their husband, or their uncles life had been saved by
PSA testing. The truth is that once a patient is treated for
early-stage prostate cancer there is usually no way of knowing whether
he would have been one of the very few who might have died of the
disease if he had not been treated€“ or one of the many who would have
died of something else, long before the diseases caused problems. If
they hadnt been tested, those men would never have known that they had
prostate cancer. But once treated, few want to admit that the treatment
might have been unnecessary, particularly if they wind up coping with
life-changing side-effects. Human beings will do anything to avoid regret.

At this point, I believe the answer is to make sure that patients are s
given full information about the risks and benefits of PSA testing and
treatments for early-stage prostate cancer before making a decision as
to whether they want the test. I have written about €œshared
decision-making€� programs that help men decide whether they to go ahead
with the test €”and whether they want treatment if they are diagnosed here."

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:12:31 -0700, Casa de perritos felices
> wrote:

>On 11/24/2017 3:57 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 12:17:52 -0700, Casa de perritos felices
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/24/2017 11:42 AM, wrote:
>>>> On 24 Nov 2017 15:08:40 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-11-24, graham > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>>>>>> should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>>>>>> husbands to do the same!
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
>>>>> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
>>>>> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
>>>>> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
>>>>> get a PSA test.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new/>
>>>>>
>>>>> nb
>>>>
>>>> Written by a **** with no medical credentials whatsoever.
>>>> http://www.healthbeatblog.com/about-maggie-mahar/
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tepid shoot the messenger, got a beef with that she reported?
>>
>> She made no point other than pandering to the cheapskates.
>
>I hate it when you go off on another of your "I know everything" rants.
>
>READ and LEARN:
>
>"Tuesday, the New York Times ran an Op-ed by Richard J. Ablin, the man
>who invented the prostate-specific-antigen (PSA) test which is widely
>used to detect signs of early-stage prostate cancer. Ablin, who is
>now a research professor of immunobiology and pathology at the
>University of Arizona College of Medicine and the president of the
>Robert Benjamin Ablin Foundation for Cancer Research, reveals that “in
>approving the procedure, the Food and Drug Administration relied heavily
>on a study that showed testing could detect 3.8 percent of prostate
>cancers, which was a better rate than the standard method, a digital
>rectal exam.
>
>
> “Still, 3.8 percent is a small number,” he observes. “Nevertheless,
>especially in the early days of screening, men with a reading over four
>nanograms per milliliter were sent for painful prostate biopsies. If the
>biopsy showed any signs of cancer, the patient was almost always pushed
>into surgery, intensive radiation or other damaging treatments.”
>
>Prostate cancer is a tricky disease because the cancer grows so slowly.
>A great many men who are diagnosed with prostate cancer will die of
>something else—long before the symptoms of the cancer catch up with
>them. As Ablin points out , because PSA testing is pervasive, “American
>men have a 16 percent lifetime chance of receiving a diagnosis of
>prostate cancer, but only a 3 percent chance of dying from it.”
>
>This is why, in many cases, doctors recommend “watchful waiting.” Keep
>an eye on the cancer, but don’t treat it unless there is evidence that
>it is growing.
>
>30 MILLION MEN, $30 BILLION DOLLARS –LITTLE OR NO REDUCTION IN MORTALITIES?
>
>Ablin has been frustrated by the widespread use of the test. Each year,
>he notes, some 30 million men undergo PSA testing, at a cost of $30
>Billion. Yet “the test is hardly more effective than a coin toss. As
>I’ve been trying to make clear for many years now, P.S.A. testing can’t
>detect prostate cancer and, more important, it can’t distinguish between
>the two types of prostate cancer — the one that will kill you and the
>one that won’t. “
>
>
>> I've known
>> several men who succumbed to prostate cancer simply because they were
>> too cheap to go for a ten second exam... and it's a rather inexpensive
>> procedure, costs no more than a walnut sized dollop of K-Y on a latex
>> glove. Most any GP will perform the exam during a regular office
>> visit but it's best to have it performed by someone who has had
>> special training for the procedure, which is why I go to a urologist.
>>
>> So according to you it's best to forego any exams/testing and simply
>> wait until the cancer has progressed to the point of no return.
>> Prostate cancer when discovered early on is is very curable. No
>> medical procedure is 100% but why forego an inexpensive exam and test
>> and instead risk certain death. And in most cases the exam will
>> simply discover an enlarged prostate (very common in men over 50) and
>> and instead choose to suffer problems urinating and forego sexual
>> pleasure (an enlarged prostate prevents ejaculation). An enlarged
>> prostate is easily remedied with Rx meds... those OTC meds advertised
>> on TV are fakes, they cost a lot more than the Rx meds and don't work.
>> But aside from that topic it's much more important to discover cancer.
>>
>> Any guy looking to marry a doctor choose a Urologist, that gal will
>> know more about your equipment than you will ever know. The very
>> first thing Dr. Linda did was test me for ED, she gave me a very clean
>> bill of health for that issue, actually she didn't need to do any
>> manual manipulation, a view down her blouse at her C cup cleavage was
>> all that was necessary, and I told her so... I can still imagine her
>> hand squeezing and tugging on me. Other than the fact that I'm old
>> enough to be her father I'd ask her to marry me... I'm thirty years
>> her senior, I can be her grandfather. However I have a problem
>> getting over the fact that every day she handles more pee pees than a
>> geisha. My next appointment with Dr. Linda is Sept. 7, 2018.
>>
>
>"Moreover, the benefits of treatment are uncertain.

Then die.

On 11/24/2017 1:36 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message
>> Your SIL gets a prostate exam?
>
> Son-In-Law
>
> Cheri
>
You get fisted for fun, you dizzy ****.
--
My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me.

On 11/24/2017 1:34 PM, Sheldon Katz socked up as wrote:
> I've been going to my Urologist once a year for a very long time...
> Dr. Linda is very gentle and has long slender fingers... some male
> doctors have fingers like kielbasas and have no finesse. My primary
> care doc includes a PSA in my yearly blood work up. So far no
> problems. Women need regular exams at their GYNs too and Mammograms
> also. It always amazes me how many never see a doctor until it's too
> late.
>
Did you ever know that you're my hero?
--
My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me.

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 23:59:56 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 13:34:29 -0500, wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:51:18 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 06:34:03 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>20 years ago during a check-up, my Dr subjected me to the usual DRE and
>>>>found a lump. Today, Friday, is the 20th anniversary of the radical
>>>>prostatectomy that dealt with the cancer, which was already quite
>>>>advanced. The surgeon fortunately got it in time.
>>>>My point in raising the subject is that all you guys who post here
>>>>should get a regular check-up and PSA test. And ladies, persuade your
>>>>husbands to do the same!
>>>
>>>Congrats - that also applies to my eldest SIL, if it's not 20 years at
>>>the moment, it's very close to.
>>
>> Your SIL gets a prostate exam?
>
>This is at least the third time you've had to be told that SIL also
>stands for Son In Law. Are you incapable of learning or just dumb?
>
>-sw

You must know by now that I only have females on my mind, especially
when privates are discussed.

On 11/24/2017 10:57 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> My boss had prostate cancer a few years ago
>
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> ost
> >
> 3/18/2011 3:49 PM
> Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
> readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
> fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com
>
>
> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>
> -sw
>
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>
> I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
> There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.
>
>
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>
>
https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg
>
> Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!!
>
> - sw
> Do not let "Oscar" near your food. He was obliviously digging
> boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand
> while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer
> next to me, not mine. Otherwise I would have made a stink about it
> right then, and with no mercy.
>
> Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this
review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate
about my experience (Oscar + overcharges). Sprouts has never responded
or offered a refund. They'll probably complain about this review, though.
>
> They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food.

On 11/24/2017 10:59 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> This is at least the third time you've had to be told that SIL also
> stands for Son In Law. Are you incapable of learning or just dumb?
>
> -sw
>
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> ost
> >
> 3/18/2011 3:49 PM
> Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
> readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
> fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com
>
>
> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>
> -sw
>
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>
> I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
> There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg
>
> Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!!
>
> - sw
> Do not let "Oscar" near your food. He was obliviously digging
> boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand
> while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer
> next to me, not mine. Otherwise I would have made a stink about it
> right then, and with no mercy.
>
> Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this
review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate
about my experience (Oscar + overcharges). Sprouts has never responded
or offered a refund. They'll probably complain about this review, though.
>
> They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food.

On 11/25/2017 8:28 AM, Casa de perritos felices wrote:
> On 11/24/2017 1:34 PM, Sheldon Katz socked up as wrote:
>> I've been going to my Urologist once a year for a very long time...
>> Dr. Linda is very gentle and has long slender fingers... some male
>> doctors have fingers like kielbasas and have no finesse.Â* My primary
>> care doc includes a PSA in my yearly blood work up.Â* So far no
>> problems.Â* Women need regular exams at their GYNs too and Mammograms
>> also.Â* It always amazes me how many never see a doctor until it's too
>> late.
>>
> Did you ever know that you're my hero?

forged.

On 11/25/2017 4:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You probably think Adams apples are sexy, too.
>
> -sw
>
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> ost
> >
> 3/18/2011 3:49 PM
> Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
> readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
> fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com
>
>
> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>
> -sw
>
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>
> I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
> There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg
>
> Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!!
>
> - sw
> Do not let "Oscar" near your food. He was obliviously digging
> boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand
> while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer
> next to me, not mine. Otherwise I would have made a stink about it
> right then, and with no mercy.
>
> Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this
review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate
about my experience (Oscar + overcharges). Sprouts has never responded
or offered a refund. They'll probably complain about this review, though.
>
> They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food.

In article >, notbob
> wrote:

> I recently read a book written by the inventor of the PSA test. It
> was a book exposing how the US mecical community has highjacked the
> PSA test for it's own greed and the test is no longer truly valid.
> This from the inventor! After reading this book, I know I will never
> get a PSA test.

I don't care about the book.
My father died of prostate cancer.
I got my first PSA at sixty eight. It was 10.4.
It was suggested that I get a biopsy. I got one.
It showed cancer, and I opted for radiation.
So now, we'll see. I have more radical options available.

Thanks to the PSA, my cancer was caught before my father's cancer was.
Don't spout crap from a book that you read by the guy that discovered
PSA. I wouldn't even know I had prostate cancer without a PSA, thanks
to him.
I think you missed the truth and bought his politics, true as they
might be. I appreciate what he discovered. Don't be dumb enough to
never get a PSA or act upon it if diagnosed. I may even agree with him
in general if I read the book. Specifically, I'd say "Thank You!"

[Ob:Food] We are getting sick of turkey, so we had pork chops, turkey
dressing and gravy, canned corn and cranberry sauce tonight. It's
surprisingly good.

leo