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On 11/29/2017 9:04 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-29, > wrote: > >> Pumpkins and carrots are the only veggies that have much alpha carotene. > > Zat mean Trump has lotsa "alpha carotene", too? > > > Wait! ....I meant to say, "the very best "alpha carotene"". ![]() > > nb --dang! Swore I wouldn't make Trump jokes.... > You don't have to. He's making a mockery of himself without any help. ![]() Jill |
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On 2017-11-28 11:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/28/2017 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >> What do you do to roast parsnips?Â* I'm not looking for a recipe that >> includes carrots, squash, potatoes, maple syrup, etc. etc.Â* I just >> want to roast parsnips and it has been so long that I don't remember >> what I did. >> Janet US >> > I must admit, I have never tasted a parsnip.Â* Your mention that they > taste naturally sweet (like winter squash) intrigues me.Â* I may just > have to give parsnips a try. ![]() > Do yourself a favour and try roasting them rather than boiling. I hated them for years and was urged to try them roasted. I did and I thought they were very good. After having them roasted a number of times I tried them boiled, and they were just as nasty as I had remembered them. |
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On 11/29/2017 10:01 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:29:45 -0500, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> On 11/29/2017 12:08 AM, wrote: >>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:22:58 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote: >>>> >>>> I must admit, I have never tasted a parsnip. Your mention that they >>>> taste naturally sweet (like winter squash) intrigues me. I may just >>>> have to give parsnips a try. ![]() >>>> >>>> Jill >>>> >>>> >>> I've never eaten one either and I snagged this from the internet: >>> >>> This carrot family member is ivory or pale yellow and tastes like >>> a combination of a carrot and a sweet potato with an appealing >>> nutty flavor. >>> >>> It still doesn't sound appealing enough to me to buy a couple and >>> try them. That combination of a carrot and sweet potato gave it >>> the evil eye for me. >>> >> Okay, I'm not crazy about carrots. I do like sweet potatoes. What to >> do, what to do? ![]() >> >> Jill > > Well, one parsnip isn't going to break you or kill you so go for it > once. You know, a bucket experience :-} > Janet US > Very true! It's not as if I have to buy a ton of them. Jill |
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On 11/29/2017 7:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 9:04 AM, notbob wrote: >> On 2017-11-29, > wrote: >> >>> Pumpkins and carrots are the only veggies that have much alpha carotene. >> >> Zat mean Trump has lotsa "alpha carotene", too? >> >> Wait! ....I meant to say, "the very best "alpha carotene"".Â* ![]() >> >> nb --dang! Swore I wouldn't make Trump jokes.... >> > You don't have to.Â* He's making a mockery of himself without any help. ![]() > > Jill Oddly enough it's the abuser-laden lamestream media he's been twigging with unfailing results. They've not yet caught on to the fact he uses his tweets as a side-skirmish and a catch-all for their ire while simultaneously implementing real changes sans the slightest "Fake News" coverage. It's a brilliant and novel Presidential strategy, one unexpected of a 70 year old man, yet one so irresistible that the press keeps taking the bait time after time. Peruse a list of his accomplishments and tell us how many even made the news cycle, here or abroad: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...s-thanksgiving Sun Tzu taught of this strategy now eons ago: €œAppear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.€ €œAll warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.€ €œEngage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment €” that which they cannot anticipate.€ €œThe supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.€ |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:28:10 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:22:41 -0500, jmcquown > >wrote: > >>On 11/28/2017 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>> What do you do to roast parsnips? I'm not looking for a recipe that >>> includes carrots, squash, potatoes, maple syrup, etc. etc. I just >>> want to roast parsnips and it has been so long that I don't remember >>> what I did. >>> Janet US >>> >>I must admit, I have never tasted a parsnip. Your mention that they >>taste naturally sweet (like winter squash) intrigues me. I may just >>have to give parsnips a try. ![]() >> >>Jill > >let me know when you do and how it turns out >Janet US For me a parsnip is a must for chicken soup, adds a special flavor. However after cooking I toss it out, I don't like the texture of parsnip. like eating a gritty carrot. |
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On 2017-11-29, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
> I thought the same thing about them. Parsnips and carrots are cousins. ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsnip> "The parsnip (Pastinaca sativa) is a root vegetable closely related to the carrot" HA!! I knew it tasted like a dang carrot! Thnx, Cindi. ![]() nb |
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I have read that parsnips cause cancer, ditto for horseradish and sassafras,
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 07:39:47 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 11/28/2017 7:49 PM, Bruze wrote: >> On 29 Nov 2017 00:35:25 GMT, notbob > wrote: >>> On 2017-11-28, U.S Janet B > wrote: >>>> On 28 Nov 2017 20:14:57 GMT, notbob > wrote: >>>>> Don't parnips taste pretty much like carrots? >>>> I don't think so >>> Something I once cooked, did. >>> I cooked 'em and I recall thinking, "Geez, these taste so much like >>> carrots, why bother". (shrug) >> >> What could it be? Clearly not parnsips. >> >There are white carrots. I served white carrots last week at >Thanksgiving dinner, along with yellow, orange and purple ones. >They didn't taste at all like parsnips... I've had the purple ones, but I haven't seen white ones yet. |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 03:28:53 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:35:30 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote: >> On 2017-11-28, U.S Janet B > wrote: >> >> > On 28 Nov 2017 20:14:57 GMT, notbob > wrote: >> >> >>Don't parnips taste pretty much like carrots? >> >> > I don't think so >> >> Something I once cooked, did. >> >> I cooked 'em and I recall thinking, "Geez, these taste so much like >> carrots, why bother". (shrug) >> >> nb > >I thought the same thing about them. Parsnips and carrots are cousins. ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsnip> I know and they're related to parsley too. But are you saying parsnips taste like carrots to you? |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:01:41 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:29:45 -0500, jmcquown > >wrote: > >>On 11/29/2017 12:08 AM, wrote: >>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:22:58 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote: >>>> >>>> I must admit, I have never tasted a parsnip. Your mention that they >>>> taste naturally sweet (like winter squash) intrigues me. I may just >>>> have to give parsnips a try. ![]() >>>> >>>> Jill >>>> >>>> >>> I've never eaten one either and I snagged this from the internet: >>> >>> This carrot family member is ivory or pale yellow and tastes like >>> a combination of a carrot and a sweet potato with an appealing >>> nutty flavor. >>> >>> It still doesn't sound appealing enough to me to buy a couple and >>> try them. That combination of a carrot and sweet potato gave it >>> the evil eye for me. >>> >>Okay, I'm not crazy about carrots. I do like sweet potatoes. What to >>do, what to do? ![]() >> >>Jill > >Well, one parsnip isn't going to break you or kill you so go for it >once. You know, a bucket experience :-} Yes, it's not that complicated. Eat a bloody parsnip and you'll know! |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 10:05:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2017-11-28 11:22 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> On 11/28/2017 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>> What do you do to roast parsnips?* I'm not looking for a recipe that >>> includes carrots, squash, potatoes, maple syrup, etc. etc.* I just >>> want to roast parsnips and it has been so long that I don't remember >>> what I did. >>> Janet US >>> >> I must admit, I have never tasted a parsnip.* Your mention that they >> taste naturally sweet (like winter squash) intrigues me.* I may just >> have to give parsnips a try. ![]() >> > >Do yourself a favour and try roasting them rather than boiling. I hated >them for years and was urged to try them roasted. I did and I thought >they were very good. After having them roasted a number of times I tried >them boiled, and they were just as nasty as I had remembered them. I think this is true for many vegetables. For me, at least. |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:29:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>I have read that parsnips cause cancer, ditto for horseradish and sassafras, <http://particle.physics.ucdavis.edu/News/parsnips.html> |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 07:39:47 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 11/28/2017 7:49 PM, Bruze wrote: >> On 29 Nov 2017 00:35:25 GMT, notbob > wrote: >>> On 2017-11-28, U.S Janet B > wrote: >>>> On 28 Nov 2017 20:14:57 GMT, notbob > wrote: >>>>> Don't parnips taste pretty much like carrots? >>>> I don't think so >>> Something I once cooked, did. >>> I cooked 'em and I recall thinking, "Geez, these taste so much like >>> carrots, why bother". (shrug) >> >> What could it be? Clearly not parnsips. >> >There are white carrots. I served white carrots last week at >Thanksgiving dinner, along with yellow, orange and purple ones. >They didn't taste at all like parsnips... I've never seen different coloured carrots - do you know, are they GMO generated? It could well be the reason notbob thought they tasted like carrots cos I would say parsnips have their own distinct flavour. |
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On 29 Nov 2017 14:04:15 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-11-29, > wrote: > >> Pumpkins and carrots are the only veggies that have much alpha carotene. > >Zat mean Trump has lotsa "alpha carotene", too? > > >Wait! ....I meant to say, "the very best "alpha carotene"". ![]() > >nb --dang! Swore I wouldn't make Trump jokes.... They can't be avoided, the whole world is at it ![]() |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 10:05:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2017-11-28 11:22 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> On 11/28/2017 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>> What do you do to roast parsnips?* I'm not looking for a recipe that >>> includes carrots, squash, potatoes, maple syrup, etc. etc.* I just >>> want to roast parsnips and it has been so long that I don't remember >>> what I did. >>> Janet US >>> >> I must admit, I have never tasted a parsnip.* Your mention that they >> taste naturally sweet (like winter squash) intrigues me.* I may just >> have to give parsnips a try. ![]() >> > >Do yourself a favour and try roasting them rather than boiling. I hated >them for years and was urged to try them roasted. I did and I thought >they were very good. After having them roasted a number of times I tried >them boiled, and they were just as nasty as I had remembered them. I would agree with that except I do like Julia Childs creamed parsnips http://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/...arsnips-108040 They seem to take on a completely different flavour. |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:04:44 -0700, ardiente casa del amor
> wrote: > >Oddly enough it's the abuser-laden lamestream media he's been twigging >with unfailing results. > >They've not yet caught on to the fact he uses his tweets as a >side-skirmish and a catch-all for their ire while simultaneously >implementing real changes sans the slightest "Fake News" coverage. > >It's a brilliant and novel Presidential strategy, one unexpected of a 70 >year old man, yet one so irresistible that the press keeps taking the >bait time after time. > >Peruse a list of his accomplishments and tell us how many even made the >news cycle, here or abroad: > >http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...s-thanksgiving > Aaah - the Real Fake News! |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:29:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>I have read that parsnips cause cancer, ditto for horseradish and sassafras, Well living can cause cancer... |
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On 2017-11-29 12:33 PM, wrote:
>> Do yourself a favour and try roasting them rather than boiling. I hated >> them for years and was urged to try them roasted. I did and I thought >> they were very good. After having them roasted a number of times I tried >> them boiled, and they were just as nasty as I had remembered them. > > I would agree with that except I do like Julia Childs creamed parsnips > > http://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/...arsnips-108040 > > They seem to take on a completely different flavour. > Ah, got it. They can be good if cooked with a method that gives them a completely different flavour. ;-) |
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On 11/29/2017 10:30 AM, wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2017 14:04:15 GMT, notbob > wrote: > >> On 2017-11-29, > wrote: >> >>> Pumpkins and carrots are the only veggies that have much alpha carotene. >> >> Zat mean Trump has lotsa "alpha carotene", too? >> >> >> Wait! ....I meant to say, "the very best "alpha carotene"". ![]() >> >> nb --dang! Swore I wouldn't make Trump jokes.... > > They can't be avoided, the whole world is at it ![]() Ah yes, shrewish Lucrezia is back to flagrantly abuse the group's _cooking_ charter yet again! At the drop of hat, eh canucklehead? Shall we post a lengthy indictment of the Marxist Tru-dumb's lunacies in office? How long till his own abuse charges come out? http://winnipegsun.com/2017/07/13/tr...0-1f82ff12ffb3 Justin Trudeau claims his government has the best interests of women as a central pillar of their reign. Yet, sadly, a recent federal policy change on spousal immigration calls into question the validity of Trudeaus claim. The new policy suggests he is more interested in getting votes through identity politics than protecting women. Overseas marriages €” requiring one of the couple needing a visa to stay in Canada with their spouse €” provide difficult situations for western democracies. With arranged marriages the norm in India, a Canadian marrying an East Indian can raise questions as to the validity of the marriage bond. In many cases the couple has spent little, if any, time together before marrying. In the U.S., the U.K., Australia and New Zealand, immigrant spouses are granted conditional visas, becoming unconditional only after two years. Why? The time requirement better ensures marriages are legitimate. Even more importantly, it protects women who find themselves in abusive marriages. If a woman suffers abuse within the two-year period, her husband has his visa revoked and sent back to India. While the two-year test rule deals with out-right marriage fraud, more frequently it is used to protect women who sponsored their husband only to be abused. In 2011, the Canadian government finally adopted two-year conditional visas for immigrant spouses, the international standard. While Canadas adoption of the two-year test only brought us into line with other developed countries seeking to protect women, the change was met with outrage, largely by older men of East Indian backgrounds. Canadas revised rules also provided wives from overseas relief from being abused by Canadian husbands. Separated foreign wives leaving arranged marriages escaped abuse and allowed to remain in Canada. But, after the two- year test was introduced (to protect women), dozens of articles appeared in the Indo-Canadian press claiming the governments new rules were not needed and "hurt women. The opposite was true, the new rule protected women. After this positive change was enacted in 2011, hundreds of false and or abusive foreign male spouses had their visas to stay in Canada revoked, returning them to their home country while leaving their wives here and safe. Before the new rules came into force, there were countless stories of cases of marriages where male immigrant spouses walked away from their new Canadian wives after arriving (to stay) in Canada. (Either abused or a victim of fraud, distraught new wives often didnt know their husband before marrying them.) The Trudeau government then responded to fiery male-orientated opposition by repealing the new two-year test, removing conditions to spousal visas. Once again, women were the losers. The cause of their loss: an outcry by males from segments of the Indo-Canadian community. Trudeaus government, pandering for votes at the cost of no longer protecting women, should be ashamed. Sadly, doing what is right €” the protection now revoked €” takes a back seat to playing identity politics for hoped-for Liberal votes. Immigration officers and consultants express deep disappointment of Trudeaus reversal. Most work hard to protect women from abusive and fraudulent marriages. An important tool, the two-year test, was taken away, once again it is much harder to protect the vulnerable. So much for our self-described feminist Prime Minister. €” Graham Lane leads Manitoba Forward (manitobaforward.ca). |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 12:54:53 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2017-11-29 11:29 AM, wrote: >> I have read that parsnips cause cancer, ditto for horseradish and sassafras, >> > > >Well, I had to check that out. There were a couple sites that indicate a >possible link, but about four times as many that say it helps to fight >cancer. It better! It's causing it! |
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On 11/29/2017 10:36 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:04:44 -0700, ardiente casa del amor > > wrote: >> >> Oddly enough it's the abuser-laden lamestream media he's been twigging >> with unfailing results. >> >> They've not yet caught on to the fact he uses his tweets as a >> side-skirmish and a catch-all for their ire while simultaneously >> implementing real changes sans the slightest "Fake News" coverage. >> >> It's a brilliant and novel Presidential strategy, one unexpected of a 70 >> year old man, yet one so irresistible that the press keeps taking the >> bait time after time. >> >> Peruse a list of his accomplishments and tell us how many even made the >> news cycle, here or abroad: >> >> http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...s-thanksgiving >> >crickets< > Aaah - the Real Fake News! Aaah, you TOOK the bait, hook line and sinker! ,-. O / `. <\/ `. |* `. / \ `. / / `>')3s, --------.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~,'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now then: "Peruse a list of his accomplishments and tell us how many even made the news cycle, here or abroad..." >crickets< And thanks for being so complicit in my illustrations, dearie! |
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On 11/29/2017 12:04 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 07:39:47 -0500, S Viemeister >> There are white carrots. I served white carrots last week at >> Thanksgiving dinner, along with yellow, orange and purple ones. >> They didn't taste at all like parsnips... > > I've had the purple ones, but I haven't seen white ones yet. > Apparently it was the Dutch who developed the orange ones - they used to be purple, yellow, and white. |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:42:10 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 11/29/2017 12:04 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 07:39:47 -0500, S Viemeister >>> There are white carrots. I served white carrots last week at >>> Thanksgiving dinner, along with yellow, orange and purple ones. >>> They didn't taste at all like parsnips... >> >> I've had the purple ones, but I haven't seen white ones yet. >> >Apparently it was the Dutch who developed the orange ones - they used to >be purple, yellow, and white. I didn't know that, but orange is the national colour ![]() |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > Okay, I'm not crazy about carrots. I do like sweet potatoes. What to > do, what to do? ![]() lol! No brainer, Jill. Eat sweet potatoes and skip the carrots and parsnips. I'll be grocery shopping on Friday morning. On the list is a parsnip (if they even have them) and a wedge of brie. Two things I've never tried but I'm willing to give each a try. |
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On 11/29/2017 12:25 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: >> >> Okay, I'm not crazy about carrots. I do like sweet potatoes. What to >> do, what to do? ![]() > > lol! No brainer, Jill. Eat sweet potatoes and skip the carrots > and parsnips. I'll be grocery shopping on Friday morning. On the > list is a parsnip (if they even have them) and a wedge of brie. > Two things I've never tried but I'm willing to give each a try. > Now all you need is a nice box of Parsnip Helper! :-))) |
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On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 12:05:39 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 03:28:53 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > > >On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:35:30 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote: > >> On 2017-11-28, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> > >> > On 28 Nov 2017 20:14:57 GMT, notbob > wrote: > >> > >> >>Don't parnips taste pretty much like carrots? > >> > >> > I don't think so > >> > >> Something I once cooked, did. > >> > >> I cooked 'em and I recall thinking, "Geez, these taste so much like > >> carrots, why bother". (shrug) > >> > >> nb > > > >I thought the same thing about them. Parsnips and carrots are cousins. > ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsnip> > > I know and they're related to parsley too. But are you saying parsnips > taste like carrots to you? A little bit. It's been a long time since I had a parsnip, so it's hard to remember. But I do recall they tasted something like carrot, so they didn't seem worth bothering about. To my tastebuds, sweet potato and winter squash aren't all that different. The texture is, though. Cindy Hamilton |
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The US sends orange corn to Africa.
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:43:52 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 11/29/2017 12:29 PM, wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 07:39:47 -0500, S Viemeister > >>> There are white carrots. I served white carrots last week at >>> Thanksgiving dinner, along with yellow, orange and purple ones. >>> They didn't taste at all like parsnips... >> >> I've never seen different coloured carrots - do you know, are they GMO >> generated? It could well be the reason notbob thought they tasted >> like carrots cos I would say parsnips have their own distinct flavour. >> >No, not GMO - carrots used to come in purple, yellow and white, then the >Dutch developed the orange ones. >I've even seen pink/rose ones in Indian markets. Very interesting, didn't know that. |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:25:28 -0500, Gary > wrote:
wrote: >> >> personally I loathe >> sweet potatoes > >Blasphemy! 3 wet bath towels on floor for you! ![]() Lol, I'll make you pick them up! |
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On 2017-11-29, U.S Janet B > wrote:
> let me know when you do and how it turns out I jes bought 2 parsnips. Pricey lil' suckers, aren't they? I boil one and roast one. What temp to roast? Seriously. ![]() nb |
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On 11/29/2017 3:11 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-29, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> let me know when you do and how it turns out > > I jes bought 2 parsnips. Pricey lil' suckers, aren't they? > > I boil one and roast one. What temp to roast? Seriously. ![]() > > nb > https://www.yummly.com/recipe/Roaste...curious?prm-v1 Ingredients SERVINGS: 4 USMETRIC 2 pounds parsnips (5 to 6 medium) 3 tablespoons unsalted butter 1 1/2 tablespoons dark brown sugar (packed) 1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper (freshly) 3 tablespoons chopped fresh thyme (coarsely) PREPARATION Preheat the oven to 425°F. Peel the parsnips and cut them into 2-inch lengths. Quarter the thickest pieces, halve the medium ones, and leave the thinnest ones whole. You want all the pieces to be about the same size. Put the butter in a shallow baking dish large enough to hold the parsnips in a single layer and put the dish in the oven until the butter melts. Stir in the brown sugar and vinegar. Add the parsnips, salt, and pepper and stir to coat all the pieces evenly. Bake for 20 minutes. Remove the pan from the oven and stir in the thyme. Continue to bake until the parsnips are browned and tender when pierced with a fork, about 10 minutes longer. |
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On 29 Nov 2017 22:11:49 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-11-29, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> let me know when you do and how it turns out > >I jes bought 2 parsnips. Pricey lil' suckers, aren't they? > >I boil one and roast one. What temp to roast? Seriously. ![]() > >nb I doubt you will enjoy the plain boiled one. I tend to roast them at whatever temp I am roasting the meat, if no meat, 350°F would do it. If they are very large, I slice them lengthways in the thick part, then leave the tip intact. I hope you like them, they make a nice change in flavour. |
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On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 4:57:41 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> > I tend to roast them at > whatever temp I am roasting the meat, if no meat, 350°F would do it. > If they are very large, I slice them lengthways in the thick part, > then leave the tip intact. I hope you like them, they make a nice > change in flavour. > > I'm heading to the store on Friday and if I remember, I'll pick up one and roast it when I get home. |
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