Cooked is a 4 part documentary written by Michael Pollan, author of
The Omnivore's Dilemma. He's done other films (TED, In Defense of
Food, etc), but this one really gets me. It talks about how bread is
made and how the US food industry is actively attempting to eliminate
home cooking.

It's my opinion this film is a must see fer all true cooks.

<http://michaelpollan.com/videos/netflix-documentary-series-cooked/>

I saw it on Netflix. Watch it however you can (library, Youtube,
etc).

nb

On 11/29/2017 10:31 AM, notbob wrote:
> Cooked is a 4 part documentary written by Michael Pollan, author of
> The Omnivore's Dilemma. He's done other films (TED, In Defense of
> Food, etc), but this one really gets me. It talks about how bread is
> made and how the US food industry is actively attempting to eliminate
> home cooking.
>
> It's my opinion this film is a must see fer all true cooks.
>
> <http://michaelpollan.com/videos/netflix-documentary-series-cooked/>
>
> I saw it on Netflix. Watch it however you can (library, Youtube,
> etc).
>
> nb


I'll watch it for sure, tnx!

And if you like that, you will surely want to see:

https://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/King-Corn/70080822

The ineffable spread of corn syrup throughout our society is really
quite alarming!

And you also must see:

https://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/Blue-G...47?dsrc=DVDWEB

Yes, some politics there of course, but actual _food politics_ not the
partisan slime we're sold from the swamp.

On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 9:31:39 AM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
> Cooked is a 4 part documentary written by Michael Pollan, author of
> The Omnivore's Dilemma. He's done other films (TED, In Defense of
> Food, etc), but this one really gets me. It talks about how bread is
> made and how the US food industry is actively attempting to eliminate
> home cooking.
>
> It's my opinion this film is a must see fer all true cooks.
>
> <http://michaelpollan.com/videos/netflix-documentary-series-cooked/>
>
> I saw it on Netflix. Watch it however you can (library, Youtube,
> etc).
>
> nb

I watched it when it first came out. It's really good.

On 2017-11-29, ImStillMags > wrote:

> I watched it when it first came out. It's really good.

Agree.

I'm watching it fer the 2nd time (subscribe to Netflix). Episode 4
tell how beer, chocolate, and kimchi is fermented. "The taste of decay".

Thank you, bacteria!

nb

On 11/29/2017 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> All these documentaries aren't good for your already deeply rooted
> food psychosis.

>
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> ost
> >
> 3/18/2011 3:49 PM
> Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
> readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
> fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com
>
>
> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>
> -sw
>
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>
> I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
> There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg
>
> Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!!
>
> - sw
> Do not let "Oscar" near your food. He was obliviously digging
> boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand
> while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer
> next to me, not mine. Otherwise I would have made a stink about it
> right then, and with no mercy.
>
> Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this
review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate
about my experience (Oscar + overcharges). Sprouts has never responded
or offered a refund. They'll probably complain about this review, though.
>
> They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 12:37:12 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
>> Cooked is a 4 part documentary written by Michael Pollan, author of
>> The Omnivore's Dilemma. He's done other films (TED, In Defense of
>> Food, etc), but this one really gets me. It talks about how bread is
>> made and how the US food industry is actively attempting to eliminate
>> home cooking.
>>
>> It's my opinion this film is a must see fer all true cooks.
>>
>> <http://michaelpollan.com/videos/netflix-documentary-series-cooked/>
>>
>> I saw it on Netflix. Watch it however you can (library, Youtube,
>> etc).
>
>All these documentaries aren't good for your already deeply rooted
>food psychosis.
>
>Cooking is not going away. Even though you can buy clothes at the
>store, plenty of people still sew, knit, crochet, as well as grow and
>raise their own food. Providing and creating for ones self is built
>into our genes and will take another million years for that trait to
>bred out of us.

It's more about the sheeple. They'll buy prefab food and slowly shove
it into their mouths without thinking, whilst watching McDonalds ads.
Give them a tomato seed and they'll ask you where the remote for it
is. And once every so many years they get to vote...

On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>

> ObFood: Kinda getting sick of turkey, but it's what for brunch. Dark
> meat in gravy over leftover stuffing.
>
> -sw
>
Then next time buy a smaller one!

On 2017-11-29, Bruce > wrote:

> Give them a tomato seed and they'll ask you where the remote for it
> is.

LOL!.....

On 11/29/2017 3:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Chicken is better anyway.
>
> -sw
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ost
> >
> 3/18/2011 3:49 PM
> Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
> readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
> fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com
>
>
> Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
>
> -sw
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
> There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg
>
> Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!!
>
> - sw
> Do not let "Oscar" near your food. He was obliviously digging
> boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand
> while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer
> next to me, not mine. Otherwise I would have made a stink about it
> right then, and with no mercy.
>
> Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this
review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate
about my experience (Oscar + overcharges). Sprouts has never responded
or offered a refund. They'll probably complain about this review, though.
>
> They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food.

On 2017-11-29 3:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:02:46 -0700, graham wrote:
>
>> On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> ObFood: Kinda getting sick of turkey, but it's what for brunch. Dark
>>> meat in gravy over leftover stuffing.
>>>
>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
>
> Next year it will just be a big chicken. Chicken is better anyway.
>
> -sw
>
Agreed, 100%!!!

On 11/29/2017 3:43 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-11-29 3:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:02:46 -0700, graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>> ObFood: Kinda getting sick of turkey, but it's what for brunch.Â* Dark
>>>> meat in gravy over leftover stuffing.
>>>>
>>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
>>
>> Next year it will just be a big chicken.Â* Chicken is better anyway.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> Agreed, 100%!!!

Capon is better.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:19:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:02:46 -0700, graham wrote:
>
>> On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> ObFood: Kinda getting sick of turkey, but it's what for brunch. Dark
>>> meat in gravy over leftover stuffing.
>>>
>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
>
>Next year it will just be a big chicken. Chicken is better anyway.
>
>-sw

Agreed... me too.

On 2017-11-29 3:45 PM, ardiente casa del amor wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 3:43 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2017-11-29 3:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:02:46 -0700, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ObFood: Kinda getting sick of turkey, but it's what for brunch.Â* Dark
>>>>> meat in gravy over leftover stuffing.
>>>>>
>>>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
>>>
>>> Next year it will just be a big chicken.Â* Chicken is better anyway.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> Agreed, 100%!!!
>
> Capon is better.
If you can find one!
My parents fattened a few capons for xmas and the one they sent to an
uncle as a xmas present usually weighed 14lbs - I kid you not!

On 2017-11-29 11:39 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> All these documentaries aren't good for your already deeply rooted
>> food psychosis.
>
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > ost
> > >
> > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM
> > Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
> > readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
> > fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com
> >
> >
> > Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
> >
> > -sw
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
> > There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >
> https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg
>
> >
> > Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > - sw
> > Do not let "Oscar" near your food.Â* He was obliviously digging
> > boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand
> > while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer
> > next to me, not mine.Â* Otherwise I would have made a stink about it
> > right then, and with no mercy.
> >
> > Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this
> review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate
> about my experience (Oscar + overcharges).Â* Sprouts has never responded
> or offered a refund.Â* They'll probably complain about this review, though.
> >
> > They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food.


OH FOR ****S SAKE **** OFF AND STICK YOUR HEAD UP A DEAD BEAR'S ARSE!

On 2017-11-29 3:20 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 3:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> Â* Chicken is better anyway.
>>
>> -sw
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > ost
> > >
> > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM
> > Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
> > readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
> > fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com
> >
> >
> > Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.
> >
> > -sw
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
> > There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >
> https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org...ntation-057jpg
>
> >
> > Hide the Ho Ho's!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > - sw
> > Do not let "Oscar" near your food.Â* He was obliviously digging
> > boogers out of his nose with his thumb at the end of the check-stand
> > while bagging groceries. Fortunately he was bagging the customer
> > next to me, not mine.Â* Otherwise I would have made a stink about it
> > right then, and with no mercy.
> >
> > Note - it has been one month since I visited Sprouts and wrote this
> review (Grand Opening weekend, IIRC) as well as writing to corporate
> about my experience (Oscar + overcharges).Â* Sprouts has never responded
> or offered a refund.Â* They'll probably complain about this review, though.
> >
> > They get 1 star for nose-picking while touching customer food.


OH FOR ****S SAKE **** OFF AND STICK YOUR HEAD UP A DEAD BEAR'S ARSE!

On 2017-11-30, graham > wrote:
> On 2017-11-29 3:45 PM, ardiente casa del amor wrote:

>> Capon is better.

> If you can find one!

Look during Dec (Xmas). Most sprmkts stock duck, pheasant, capons,
chitlins, etc, *only* fer the holiday season.

nb

On 11/29/2017 5:02 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>
>
>> ObFood: Kinda getting sick of turkey, but it's what for brunch.Â* Dark
>> meat in gravy over leftover stuffing.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> Then next time buy a smaller one!

Wish I could. I never see them less than 14#. I'd prefer about 8#.
Seems like a status symbol for some people to brag how bit a turkey they
had.

On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:23:47 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 11/29/2017 5:02 PM, graham wrote:
> >>
> > Then next time buy a smaller one!
>
> Wish I could. I never see them less than 14#. I'd prefer about 8#.
> Seems like a status symbol for some people to brag how bit a turkey they
> had.
>
>
Do y'all prefer just the breast meat of turkeys??

On 11/29/2017 9:28 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:23:47 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 11/29/2017 5:02 PM, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
>>
>> Wish I could. I never see them less than 14#. I'd prefer about 8#.
>> Seems like a status symbol for some people to brag how bit a turkey they
>> had.
>>
>>
> Do y'all prefer just the breast meat of turkeys??
>

We eat both. I'd buy just a breast because of the size, but wife
insists on a whole bird.

On 2017-11-29 7:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 5:02 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> ObFood: Kinda getting sick of turkey, but it's what for brunch.Â* Dark
>>> meat in gravy over leftover stuffing.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
>
> Wish I could.Â* I never see them less than 14#.Â* I'd prefer about 8#.
> Seems like a status symbol for some people to brag how bit a turkey they
> had.
I rarely had a problem when the kids were younger (now they have their
own families) but I had to buy early before the other "wrinklies" got to
them!

On 11/29/2017 9:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 5:02 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
> Wish I could. I never see them less than 14#. I'd prefer about 8#.
> Seems like a status symbol for some people to brag how bit a turkey they
> had.

Ours was just over 11 pounds - it was the smallest one I could find.
I'm seriously considering a big chicken for next time. Or a platter full
of game hens...

On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:39:33 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 11/29/2017 9:28 PM, wrote:
>
> > Do y'all prefer just the breast meat of turkeys??
> >
>
> We eat both. I'd buy just a breast because of the size, but wife
> insists on a whole bird.
>
>
Oh, ok. I was going to suggest a turkey breast but if honey bun wants
a whole turkey you better stick to buying a whole one.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:57:46 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:39:33 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 11/29/2017 9:28 PM, wrote:
>>
>> > Do y'all prefer just the breast meat of turkeys??
>> >
>>
>> We eat both. I'd buy just a breast because of the size, but wife
>> insists on a whole bird.
>>
>>
>Oh, ok. I was going to suggest a turkey breast but if honey bun wants
>a whole turkey you better stick to buying a whole one.

If you shop early you'll find 10-12 pounders. This year's was 11
pounds 10 ounces. These are the hens, a much better value as the meat
to bone ratio is higher than toms. You'd be better off with two 12
pounders than one 24 pounder. They also take less time to cook and
they'll both fit into the average oven. Also four drumsticks and four
wings. And much easier to carve.

On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 9:39:39 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:57:46 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >Oh, ok. I was going to suggest a turkey breast but if honey bun wants
> >a whole turkey you better stick to buying a whole one.
>
> If you shop early you'll find 10-12 pounders. This year's was 11
> pounds 10 ounces. These are the hens, a much better value as the meat
> to bone ratio is higher than toms. You'd be better off with two 12
> pounders than one 24 pounder. They also take less time to cook and
> they'll both fit into the average oven. Also four drumsticks and four
> wings. And much easier to carve.
>
>
I prefer the breast meat myself so when I buy one I opt for just a
frozen breast. They're around the size of a football and easy to
cook and not wondering what I'll do with the legs. But I do see
them going up in price per pound each year.
:-(

On 11/29/2017 6:37 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-11-29 3:45 PM, ardiente casa del amor wrote:
>> On 11/29/2017 3:43 PM, graham wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-29 3:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:02:46 -0700, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-11-29 11:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> On 29 Nov 2017 17:31:35 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ObFood: Kinda getting sick of turkey, but it's what for brunch.Â* Dark
>>>>>> meat in gravy over leftover stuffing.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
>>>>
>>>> Next year it will just be a big chicken.Â* Chicken is better anyway.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> Agreed, 100%!!!
>>
>> Capon is better.
> If you can find one!

Kroger/Smiths frozen section, always.

> My parents fattened a few capons for xmas and the one they sent to an
> uncle as a xmas present usually weighed 14lbs - I kid you not!

Dang, that's a surgical eunuch to feast on!

On 11/29/2017 7:28 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:23:47 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 11/29/2017 5:02 PM, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>> Then next time buy a smaller one!
>>
>> Wish I could. I never see them less than 14#. I'd prefer about 8#.
>> Seems like a status symbol for some people to brag how bit a turkey they
>> had.
>>
>>
> Do y'all prefer just the breast meat of turkeys??
>

Yes.

Wings too.

On 11/29/2017 9:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:40:36 -0700, graham wrote:
>
>> OH FOR ****S SAKE **** OFF AND STICK YOUR HEAD UP A DEAD BEAR'S ARSE!
>
> If people would stop responding to him under his other nyms then he'd
> eventually go away. You're guilty of that often.
>
> -sw
>

Work the room fatty, especially the drunk in the back with the bored wife...

On 11/29/2017 9:48 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> this one was
> probably just bulimic.

Right, claws in throat to barf - some feat...

On 11/29/2017 9:55 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Remember "airline
> chicken"?

Did you stalk her in the lav?

On 2017-11-29 9:54 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 11/29/2017 9:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Wish I could.Â* I never see them less than 14#.Â* I'd prefer about 8#.
>> Seems like a status symbol for some people to brag how bit a turkey
>> they had.
>
> Â*Ours was just over 11 pounds - it was the smallest one I could find.
> I'm seriously considering a big chicken for next time. Or a platter full
> of game hens...

My wife usually gets 12 pound turkeys. Last year we got a capon for
Thanksgiving. It was a little smaller so there were less leftovers, but
they were much better than leftover turkey.

On 2017-11-30, S Viemeister > wrote:

> Ours was just over 11 pounds - it was the smallest one I could find.
> I'm seriously considering a big chicken for next time.

My ex-GF never ate turkey. She'd always buy a 'capon'.

nb

On 11/29/2017 11:55 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:39:35 -0500, wrote:
>
>> You'd be better off with two 12
>> pounders than one 24 pounder. They also take less time to cook and
>> they'll both fit into the average oven. Also four drumsticks and four
>> wings. And much easier to carve.
>
> The drumsticks the least desirable part of the turkey for me. And the
> wing tips and forearms get throw into the pot to simmer for gravy -
> Leaving me with two "airline turkey breasts". Remember "airline
> chicken"? A breast with the first wing section sticking out.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_chicken
>
> -sw
>

A couple of times we ended up with a turkey as a gift. Rather than cook
the whole thing, I cut off the leg, thigh, wings and cooked the breast.
The other meat was mixed with about 30% turkey-70% pork for sausage.
Worked well.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:55:34 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:39:35 -0500, wrote:
>
>> You'd be better off with two 12
>> pounders than one 24 pounder. They also take less time to cook and
>> they'll both fit into the average oven. Also four drumsticks and four
>> wings. And much easier to carve.
>
>The drumsticks the least desirable part of the turkey for me.

The drumsticks are a favorite part for me. I also enjoy the roasted
neck, which I do when I'm not bothering with gravy. If I had to
choose a favorite it'd be those two turkery oysters, However I enjoy
the dark meat, not so much the white.

>And the
>wing tips and forearms get throw into the pot to simmer for gravy -
>Leaving me with two "airline turkey breasts". Remember "airline
>chicken"? A breast with the first wing section sticking out.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_chicken
>
>-sw

On 11/30/2017 11:09 AM, wrote:
> If I had to
> choose a favorite it'd be those two turkery oysters,

I vote for "the Pope's nose"!

On 11/30/2017 1:25 PM, ardiente casa del amor wrote:
> On 11/30/2017 11:09 AM, wrote:
>> Â* If I had to
>> choose a favoriteÂ* it'd be those two turkery oysters,
>
> I vote for "the Pope's nose"!

Yes, I had the one from out bird this year. Dinner could have been over
at that point and I'd be happy.

On 11/30/2017 12:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/30/2017 1:25 PM, ardiente casa del amor wrote:
>> On 11/30/2017 11:09 AM, wrote:
>>> Â* If I had to
>>> choose a favoriteÂ* it'd be those two turkery oysters,
>>
>> I vote for "the Pope's nose"!
>
> Yes, I had the one from out bird this year.Â* Dinner could have been over
> at that point and I'd be happy.


Of course there are reasons why some bypass this fine fatty bit!