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Alleged Low Country fa

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Alleged Low Country fa

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On 12/20/2017 10:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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And "she crab"...really?
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No mention of caviar on the deviled eggs, at least.

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Nothing.

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> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 12:21:21 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> Alleged Low Country fa
>>
>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
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>> Jill

>
> No mention of caviar on the deviled eggs, at least.
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They didn't elaborate. I like the description of the salad: Tangled
Artisan Greens... Wouldn't want them to be untangled.

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On 12/20/2017 4:33 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 20-Dec-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
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>> Alleged Low Country fa
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>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
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>> Jill

> Wonder what makes Cajun Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy turn
> into low-country Beaufort Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy?
>

Shrimp & grits, sure. Tasso? Nope.

I wonder why they think macaroni & cheese is a "low country" thing.

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On 12/20/2017 1:22 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 12:21:21 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> Alleged Low Country fa
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>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
>>
>> Jill

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> No mention of caviar on the deviled eggs, at least.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
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They didn't elaborate. I like the description of the salad: Tangled
Artisan Greens... Wouldn't want them to be untangled.

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 16:47:24 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 12/20/2017 4:33 PM, l not -l wrote:
>> On 20-Dec-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> Alleged Low Country fa
>>>
>>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
>>>
>>> Jill

>> Wonder what makes Cajun Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy turn
>> into low-country Beaufort Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy?
>>

>Shrimp & grits, sure. Tasso? Nope.
>
>I wonder why they think macaroni & cheese is a "low country" thing.
>
>Jill


scroll down to foods that are traditional
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowcountry_cuisine
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They should take a club to you. Get over it already.


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On 12/20/2017 5:04 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 12/20/2017 9:21 AM, jmcquown wrote:
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>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
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>> Jill
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>
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> They should take a club to you.Â* Get over it already.


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Slow cook pole beans and a tangle of vegetables? Eek!

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On 12/20/2017 4:56 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 16:47:24 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/20/2017 4:33 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>> On 20-Dec-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alleged Low Country fa
>>>>
>>>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> Wonder what makes Cajun Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy turn
>>> into low-country Beaufort Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy?
>>>

>> Shrimp & grits, sure. Tasso? Nope.
>>
>> I wonder why they think macaroni & cheese is a "low country" thing.
>>
>> Jill

>
> scroll down to foods that are traditional
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowcountry_cuisine
>

Thanks! I guess my mom didn't know she was making a low country dish
when she baked mac & cheese for us in New Jersey, Ohio, Virginia,
California...

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On 12/21/2017 6:49 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> Alleged Low Country fa
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>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
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>> Jill

>
> Slow cook pole beans and a tangle of vegetables? Eek!


Weird, eh? They slow cooked the pole beans yet they "braised" the
collard greens. Switch those around, folks. Collards need to be slowly
cooked in lots of water. Otherwise you just wind up with some very
tough, leafy greens.

The "tangle" of artisan greens with vegetables is their fancy way of
describing salad.

What about the Charleston Chicken Curry? I don't consider curry to be a
low country dish at all.

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 08:34:58 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 12/20/2017 4:56 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 16:47:24 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/20/2017 4:33 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>> On 20-Dec-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alleged Low Country fa
>>>>>
>>>>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> Wonder what makes Cajun Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy turn
>>>> into low-country Beaufort Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy?
>>>>
>>> Shrimp & grits, sure. Tasso? Nope.
>>>
>>> I wonder why they think macaroni & cheese is a "low country" thing.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> scroll down to foods that are traditional
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowcountry_cuisine
>>

>Thanks! I guess my mom didn't know she was making a low country dish
>when she baked mac & cheese for us in New Jersey, Ohio, Virginia,
>California...
>
>Jill


I was curious because mac and cheese is offered as a vegetable choice
in some areas of the South. I don't know if being considered a
vegetable side choice is a result of the 'low-country' thing or not.
Uses of mac & cheese puzzle me. To me, mac & cheese is the main
course. To others it is another side dish in an expansive holiday
meal. Still others consider it a 'vegetable' side dish.
I don't get it. To me it is a rather humble way of putting a meal
together.
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> To me, mac & cheese is the main course.


Really? That sounds odd to me and never for me.
Maybe if seasoned beef was added though but not plain. :-/
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On 12/21/2017 11:01 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 08:34:58 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
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>> On 12/20/2017 4:56 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 16:47:24 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/20/2017 4:33 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>>> On 20-Dec-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alleged Low Country fa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>> Wonder what makes Cajun Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy turn
>>>>> into low-country Beaufort Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy?
>>>>>
>>>> Shrimp & grits, sure. Tasso? Nope.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder why they think macaroni & cheese is a "low country" thing.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> scroll down to foods that are traditional
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowcountry_cuisine
>>>

>> Thanks! I guess my mom didn't know she was making a low country dish
>> when she baked mac & cheese for us in New Jersey, Ohio, Virginia,
>> California...
>>
>> Jill

>
> I was curious because mac and cheese is offered as a vegetable choice
> in some areas of the South. I don't know if being considered a
> vegetable side choice is a result of the 'low-country' thing or not.
> Uses of mac & cheese puzzle me. To me, mac & cheese is the main
> course. To others it is another side dish in an expansive holiday
> meal. Still others consider it a 'vegetable' side dish.
> I don't get it. To me it is a rather humble way of putting a meal
> together.
> Janet US
>

I completely understand what you're saying, Janet! I was always puzzled
when mac & cheese was listed as a vegetable side choice on menus in
Memphis. I always thought "Really? Since when is mac and cheese a
vegetable?" LOL

I never did figure it out. To me, baked macaroni & cheese is a main
dish. Not from anywhere in particular. Just nice comfort food.

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On 12/21/2017 12:09 PM, Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
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>> To me, mac & cheese is the main course.

>
> Really? That sounds odd to me and never for me.
> Maybe if seasoned beef was added though but not plain. :-/
>

Baked mac & cheese was one of the main course meals my mother made for
us. That or scalloped or au gratin potates. It was dinner.

My mom used to add cut up 'Lil' Smokies' sausages to the macaroni &
cheese. Sometimes cooked ground beef. She was trying to stretch the
meal to feed five people. She grew up during the Depression so that's
just what she did. <shrug>

I do love baked mac & cheese. I'll take it even without anything
added.. but it must have buttered breadcrumbs sprinkled on the top.

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On 2017-12-21 11:01 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 08:34:58 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
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>> On 12/20/2017 4:56 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 16:47:24 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/20/2017 4:33 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>>> On 20-Dec-2017, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alleged Low Country fa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://s13.postimg.org/vpjn6fhgn/lowcountry_menu.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>> Wonder what makes Cajun Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy turn
>>>>> into low-country Beaufort Shrimp and Grits with Tasso Gravy?
>>>>>
>>>> Shrimp & grits, sure. Tasso? Nope.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder why they think macaroni & cheese is a "low country" thing.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> scroll down to foods that are traditional
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowcountry_cuisine
>>>

>> Thanks! I guess my mom didn't know she was making a low country dish
>> when she baked mac & cheese for us in New Jersey, Ohio, Virginia,
>> California...
>>
>> Jill

>
> I was curious because mac and cheese is offered as a vegetable choice
> in some areas of the South. I don't know if being considered a
> vegetable side choice is a result of the 'low-country' thing or not.


Is it the macaroni and or the cheese that qualifies it as a vegetable?


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On 2017-12-21 12:09 PM, Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
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>> To me, mac & cheese is the main course.

>
> Really? That sounds odd to me and never for me.
> Maybe if seasoned beef was added though but not plain. :-/
>


We occasionally had it as a main dish when I was a kid. I am talking
real macaroni and cheese, not the crap in a box. My grandmother used to
serve it with baked ham. I think it was her Saturday night menu...
Macaroni and cheese, baked ham, salad and stewed tomatoes.


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> I do love baked mac & cheese.Â* I'll take it even without anything
> added.. but it must have buttered breadcrumbs sprinkled on the top.


Buttered breadcrumbs and some grated Parmesan.

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On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
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> > To me, mac & cheese is the main course.

>
> Really? That sounds odd to me and never for me.
> Maybe if seasoned beef was added though but not plain. :-/


My mother often made mac & cheese as the main course. I was
puzzled to learn my husband considers it a side dish.

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> My mother often made mac & cheese as the main course.


Likewise!

I recall having the mumps and my mom serving me two enormous plates of
her special mac/cheese. She'd jes grate sharp cheddar over cooked mac
pasta and put it under the broiler until browned. I loved it!

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> Baked mac & cheese was one of the main course meals my mother made for
> us. That or scalloped or au gratin potates. It was dinner.


Never for me but I did love what my mom made.

She never added meat, although I had it once with very spiced
ground beef and loved it even better. She said she used cooked
macaroni noodles and lots of Velvetta cheese back in the day. I
loved the topping best...the browned and almost blackened cheese.
My brother and sister got very little of that.
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> We occasionally had it as a main dish when I was a kid. I am talking
> real macaroni and cheese, not the crap in a box.


My mom mad it real from scratch. That boxed stuff is a joke, imo.


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On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
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> > To me, mac & cheese is the main course.

>
> Really? That sounds odd to me and never for me.
> Maybe if seasoned beef was added though but not plain. :-/


My mother often made mac & cheese as the main course. I was
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On 21 Dec 2017 18:37:32 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-12-21, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
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>> My mother often made mac & cheese as the main course.

>
>Likewise!
>
>I recall having the mumps and my mom serving me two enormous plates of
>her special mac/cheese. She'd jes grate sharp cheddar over cooked mac
>pasta and put it under the broiler until browned. I loved it!
>
>nb


My mother put small pieces of cheese in the macaroni, poured a little
milk over the top and put it in the oven. I loved it and have never
been able to duplicate her mac & cheese.
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On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 9:02:36 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
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> My mother put small pieces of cheese in the macaroni, poured a little
> milk over the top and put it in the oven. I loved it and have never
> been able to duplicate her mac & cheese.
> Janet US


My guess is that you have to use a process cheese to pull this off. It's kind of an intriguing idea.
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:39:56 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
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>On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 9:02:36 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> My mother put small pieces of cheese in the macaroni, poured a little
>> milk over the top and put it in the oven. I loved it and have never
>> been able to duplicate her mac & cheese.
>> Janet US

>
>My guess is that you have to use a process cheese to pull this off. It's kind of an intriguing idea.


We lived in Wisconsin. All our cheese was purchased direct from the
cheese factory in the county. Not sure if processed cheese was
allowed across the state line back then. ;-)
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On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:59:25 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> > >
> > > To me, mac & cheese is the main course.

> >
> > Really? That sounds odd to me and never for me.
> > Maybe if seasoned beef was added though but not plain. :-/

>
> My mother often made mac & cheese as the main course. I was
> puzzled to learn my husband considers it a side dish.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
> ==
>
> So, what do you serve with it


I don't. I've never been fond of it, and now it's just too much
carbs and fat. If memory serves, a cooked vegetable like green
beans or broccoli.

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On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 10:05:13 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
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> We lived in Wisconsin. All our cheese was purchased direct from the
> cheese factory in the county. Not sure if processed cheese was
> allowed across the state line back then. ;-)
> Janet US


I can imagine that cheese is serious business in your town. The politics of cheese is likely to be complicated because it deals with people's livelihood. Perhaps your mom was using bootleg Velveeta.
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:55:52 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
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>On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 10:05:13 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> We lived in Wisconsin. All our cheese was purchased direct from the
>> cheese factory in the county. Not sure if processed cheese was
>> allowed across the state line back then. ;-)
>> Janet US

>
>I can imagine that cheese is serious business in your town. The politics of cheese is likely to be complicated because it deals with people's livelihood. Perhaps your mom was using bootleg Velveeta.


are you kidding? we couldn't even get margarine across the state line
unless it was in a plastic bag with a bubble of yellow dye inside. You
had to massage the dye through the white margarine. That way no one
would mistake it for the real thing -- butter.

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On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 11:18:54 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
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> are you kidding? we couldn't even get margarine across the state line
> unless it was in a plastic bag with a bubble of yellow dye inside. You
> had to massage the dye through the white margarine. That way no one
> would mistake it for the real thing -- butter.
>
> Janet US


I confess to be totally ignorant about the politics, laws, and customs, on the matter of dairy products in your state back in the good ole days. I'll have to place my trust on your expertise. I did know about the yellow dye and margarine which leads me to believe that my parents had to do the same thing in Hawaii back in the 40s/50's.

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On 2017-12-21 1:45 PM, Gary wrote:
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>> We occasionally had it as a main dish when I was a kid. I am talking
>> real macaroni and cheese, not the crap in a box.

>
> My mom mad it real from scratch. That boxed stuff is a joke, imo.
>


I make it from scratch too. I make a white sauce, add grated sharp
cheddar and a bit of mustard powder. Top it with buttered bread crumbs
and grated Parmesan.

We know a family who prides themselves in making the best macaroni and
cheese. Mother, father and son take turns trying to outdo each other. I
have had it several times, and no matter which of them makes it, it is
good.
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On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:59:25 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
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> On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> > >
> > > To me, mac & cheese is the main course.

> >
> > Really? That sounds odd to me and never for me.
> > Maybe if seasoned beef was added though but not plain. :-/

>
> My mother often made mac & cheese as the main course. I was
> puzzled to learn my husband considers it a side dish.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
> ==
>
> So, what do you serve with it


I don't. I've never been fond of it, and now it's just too much
carbs and fat. If memory serves, a cooked vegetable like green
beans or broccoli.

Cindy Hamilton

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Ok, that sounds right here too)

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On 12/21/2017 4:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-12-21 1:45 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
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>>> We occasionally had it as a main dish when I was a kid.Â* I am talking
>>> real macaroni and cheese, not the crap in a box.

>>
>> My mom mad it real from scratch. That boxed stuff is a joke, imo.
>>

>
> I make it from scratch too. I make a white sauce, add grated sharp
> cheddar and a bit of mustard powder.Â* Top it with buttered bread crumbs
> and grated Parmesan.
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Yep, gotta start with a white sauce.

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On 12/21/2017 1:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-12-21 12:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
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>> I do love baked mac & cheese.Â* I'll take it even without anything
>> added.. but it must have buttered breadcrumbs sprinkled on the top.

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> Buttered breadcrumbs and some grated Parmesan.
>

The only grated parmesan my mother was familiar with when I was growing
up was the powdered stuff in the green can.

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On 12/21/2017 1:42 PM, Gary wrote:
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>> Baked mac & cheese was one of the main course meals my mother made for
>> us. That or scalloped or au gratin potates. It was dinner.

>
> Never for me but I did love what my mom made.
>
> She never added meat, although I had it once with very spiced
> ground beef and loved it even better. She said she used cooked
> macaroni noodles and lots of Velvetta cheese back in the day. I
> loved the topping best...the browned and almost blackened cheese.
> My brother and sister got very little of that.
>

Mom used Velveeta melted in a white sauce. Don't knock it, that stuff
makes great mac & cheese.

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 18:18:09 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 12/21/2017 1:42 PM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Baked mac & cheese was one of the main course meals my mother made for
>>> us. That or scalloped or au gratin potates. It was dinner.

>>
>> Never for me but I did love what my mom made.
>>
>> She never added meat, although I had it once with very spiced
>> ground beef and loved it even better. She said she used cooked
>> macaroni noodles and lots of Velvetta cheese back in the day. I
>> loved the topping best...the browned and almost blackened cheese.
>> My brother and sister got very little of that.
>>

>Mom used Velveeta melted in a white sauce. Don't knock it, that stuff
>makes great mac & cheese.
>
>Jill


even a little Velveeta in the sauce will keep the sauce creamy. I
experimented one year.
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On 12/21/2017 6:23 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 18:18:09 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/21/2017 1:42 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Baked mac & cheese was one of the main course meals my mother made for
>>>> us. That or scalloped or au gratin potates. It was dinner.
>>>
>>> Never for me but I did love what my mom made.
>>>
>>> She never added meat, although I had it once with very spiced
>>> ground beef and loved it even better. She said she used cooked
>>> macaroni noodles and lots of Velvetta cheese back in the day. I
>>> loved the topping best...the browned and almost blackened cheese.
>>> My brother and sister got very little of that.
>>>

>> Mom used Velveeta melted in a white sauce. Don't knock it, that stuff
>> makes great mac & cheese.
>>
>> Jill

>
> even a little Velveeta in the sauce will keep the sauce creamy. I
> experimented one year.
> Janet US
>

It melts so easily and the sauce is nice and smooth. It is also less
oily than just cheddar. I always add a little Velveeta to the white
sauce when making mac & cheese.

Jill
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