On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:18:27 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 10:09:21 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > In the US what's sold as oxtail is actually cow tail.
>
> I know. My dad told me that when I was a kid. When was the last time you saw oxen in the United States? I guess they have some in Texas. Perhaps there are some where Paul Bunyan lives. I just know that one of ya'alls going to be insisting oxen are all over the place in America. It's what yoose guys do.

An ox is an adult male bovine trained as a draft animal. They often are
castrated. (Thank you, Wikipedia.)

Given the lack of demand for wagon or plow pulling, it's not surprising
we have few oxen.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 11:20:06 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 5:18:34 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> > There are few who can transition that. It;s not their fault no more
> > than you being not sure of mainland various cookery that you have not
> > really seen.
>
> No one is to blame for being ignorant about other cultures. My assumption was that oxtail soup is not that easy to find in restaurants on the mainland. Let's just say that it "depends" and leave it at that. I was shocked to find that that you can't get fruit punch at McDonald's nor can cake noodle be found at Chinese restaurants on the mainland.

Lots of things are not easy to find in restaurants. Either there's insufficient
demand for them or they are too expensive to make (or both). It's foolish to
judge a cuisine by what is available in restaurants.

Look at Chinese restaurants (on the mainland). Very few actual Chinese dishes
are on the menu--at least on the menu that's printed in English. Judging
by the typical Chinese restaurant menu, you'd never know that Chinese eat
any part of the chicken but the breast.

Cindy Hamilton

"sanne" wrote in message
...

Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 11:25:15 UTC+1 schrieb Ophelia:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
> On 1/9/2018 3:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 10:09:21 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> In the US what's sold as oxtail is actually cow tail.
> >
> > I know. My dad told me that when I was a kid. When was the last time you
> > saw oxen in the United States? I guess they have some in Texas. Perhaps
> > there are some where Paul Bunyan lives. I just know that one of ya'alls
> > going to be insisting oxen are all over the place in America. It's what
> > yoose guys do.
> >
>
> I'd not kid about something like that, we do have oxen all over in the
> mainland. I just went out for the mail and had to chase a couple out of
> my driveway. You should have seen their tails too, very big. You can
> cut the tails off and they grow another one in a few months. Most every
> restaurant here has ox tail stew on the menu since it is so plentiful.
>
> ==
>
> Do they do that??? ... cut off their tails?

Usually not - "only" their Rocky Mountain oysters before they're called
oxen.

Bye, Sanne.

==

Oh lovely ... I hope they are well anesthetized ..

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>On 1/9/2018 5:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd not kid about something like that, we do have oxen all over in the
>>> mainland. I just went out for the mail and had to chase a couple out of
>>> my driveway. You should have seen their tails too, very big. You can
>>> cut the tails off and they grow another one in a few months. Most every
>>> restaurant here has ox tail stew on the menu since it is so plentiful.
>>
>> Thank you for this information. Our tiny nation has to rely on the help of people like you from across the ocean for news of this sort. The ox tail crisis has reached a critical point since China has cut us off from their supply line. We had all but given in to despair.
>>
>> I shall inform the King of this important development. No doubt he will immediately dispatch a fleet of canoes to your land. Well, in reality, we'll probably make shore in California because we don't have compasses and that's the size of a target we can reliably hit. We have to use the stars to find our way around the Pacific. Well, in reality, we rely on one star. The sun. We just follow the sun when it comes up. At night we have to just guess.
>>
>> Please inform your king of our arrival in about 2 months. No need to make a big deal about it. A small, simple, luau for around 500 Hawaiians would be fine.
>>
>
>Preparations underway. The harvest of ox tails will start in a couple
>of weeks. Please bring a bowl of poi. The jarred stuff we have here
>has many additives and preservatives so Bruce does not approve of it for
>luau use.

Those raised here in farm country are
perfect for luau use; kardasian tails.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >>
>> >> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>> >> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>> >> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>> >> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>> >> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>> >> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>> >> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>> >> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>> >> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>> >> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>> >> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>
>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>> Janet US
>
>dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>Asians where he lives.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii

On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:44:02 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
> >> >> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
> >> >> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
> >> >> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
> >> >> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
> >> >> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
> >> >> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
> >> >> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
> >> >> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
> >> >> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
> >> >> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
> >> >> Janet US
> >> >
> >> >I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
> >>
> >> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
> >> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
> >> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
> >> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
> >> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
> >> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
> >> Janet US
> >
> >dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
> >Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
> >Asians where he lives.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii

Yes, but they have a smaller impact on NYC's culture. Arguably,
the Italians have had a greater impact.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2018-01-09 10:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I learned how to use them so early, I only recall my brother and sister
> laughing with our Mom as we ate the rare takeout and part of the treat,
> was to eat with them. Mom suspended her normal 'polite eating' rules
> and we were to put our faces over our plates so any food dropped hit
> there to be gathererd back in next try. Good chance I was 3-4 then.
>
> The fact that I many decades later moved to asia for a bit is
> irrelevant. I learned this skill as a very young child.
>
> I have always looked at it as pure fun! Later, I learned it can be
> more efficient as well with some foods and that using the longer ones
> as tongs in cooking works very well.


I still think it peculiar the white people use chopsticks only when
eating Chinese and a couple other Asian foods. You see them trying to
eat steamed or fried rice with chop sticks, but not risotto.
>

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 07:15:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:44:02 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>> >> >> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>> >> >> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>> >> >> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>> >> >> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>> >> >> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>> >> >> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>> >> >> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>> >> >> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>> >> >> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>> >> >> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>> >> >> Janet US
>> >> >
>> >> >I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>> >>
>> >> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>> >> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>> >> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>> >> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>> >> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>> >> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>> >Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>> >Asians where he lives.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii
>
>Yes, but they have a smaller impact on NYC's culture. Arguably,
>the Italians have had a greater impact.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

You haven't been to NYC recently, Asians have taken over whole
neighborhoods, even those that for many decades were predominently
Italian/Jewish, etc.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...hoods-map.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...thnic_enclaves

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:26:59 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-01-09 10:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> I learned how to use them so early, I only recall my brother and sister
>> laughing with our Mom as we ate the rare takeout and part of the treat,
>> was to eat with them. Mom suspended her normal 'polite eating' rules
>> and we were to put our faces over our plates so any food dropped hit
>> there to be gathererd back in next try. Good chance I was 3-4 then.
>>
>> The fact that I many decades later moved to asia for a bit is
>> irrelevant. I learned this skill as a very young child.
>>
>> I have always looked at it as pure fun! Later, I learned it can be
>> more efficient as well with some foods and that using the longer ones
>> as tongs in cooking works very well.
>
>
>I still think it peculiar the white people use chopsticks only when
>eating Chinese and a couple other Asian foods. You see them trying to
>eat steamed or fried rice with chop sticks, but not risotto.
>>

good info! I hadn't realized that black people never used chopsticks
when eating Chinese food.

On 1/10/2018 2:43 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 1/9/2018 3:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 10:09:21 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> In the US what's sold as oxtail is actually cow tail.
>>
>> I know. My dad told me that when I was a kid. When was the last time
>> you saw oxen in the United States? I guess they have some in Texas.
>> Perhaps there are some where Paul Bunyan lives. I just know that one
>> of ya'alls going to be insisting oxen are all over the place in
>> America. It's what yoose guys do.
>>
>
> I'd not kid about something like that, we do have oxen all over in the
> mainland.Â* I just went out for the mail and had to chase a couple out of
> my driveway.Â* You should have seen their tails too, very big.Â* You can
> cut the tails off and they grow another one in a few months.Â* Most every
> restaurant here has ox tail stew on the menu since it is so plentiful.
>
> ==
>
> Do they do that???Â*Â* ... cut off their tails?


Like giant furry skinks they are!

;-)

On 1/10/2018 7:43 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>>>>> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>>>>> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>>>>> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>>>>> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>>>>> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>>>>> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>>>>> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>>
>>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>> Asians where he lives.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii
>
But they are nowhere near the majority.

On 1/10/2018 9:01 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:26:59 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-01-09 10:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> I learned how to use them so early, I only recall my brother and sister
>>> laughing with our Mom as we ate the rare takeout and part of the treat,
>>> was to eat with them. Mom suspended her normal 'polite eating' rules
>>> and we were to put our faces over our plates so any food dropped hit
>>> there to be gathererd back in next try. Good chance I was 3-4 then.
>>>
>>> The fact that I many decades later moved to asia for a bit is
>>> irrelevant. I learned this skill as a very young child.
>>>
>>> I have always looked at it as pure fun! Later, I learned it can be
>>> more efficient as well with some foods and that using the longer ones
>>> as tongs in cooking works very well.
>>
>>
>> I still think it peculiar the white people use chopsticks only when
>> eating Chinese and a couple other Asian foods. You see them trying to
>> eat steamed or fried rice with chop sticks, but not risotto.
>>>
>
> good info! I hadn't realized that black people never used chopsticks
> when eating Chinese food.
>

ROFLOL!

That's going to get the racist troll all hot and bothered...

On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 10:25:11 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-01-09 10:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > I learned how to use them so early, I only recall my brother and sister
> > laughing with our Mom as we ate the rare takeout and part of the treat,
> > was to eat with them. Mom suspended her normal 'polite eating' rules
> > and we were to put our faces over our plates so any food dropped hit
> > there to be gathererd back in next try. Good chance I was 3-4 then.
> >
> > The fact that I many decades later moved to asia for a bit is
> > irrelevant. I learned this skill as a very young child.
> >
> > I have always looked at it as pure fun! Later, I learned it can be
> > more efficient as well with some foods and that using the longer ones
> > as tongs in cooking works very well.
>
>
> I still think it peculiar the white people use chopsticks only when
> eating Chinese and a couple other Asian foods. You see them trying to
> eat steamed or fried rice with chop sticks, but not risotto.
> >

When risotto is served, there are forks on the table.

I used to eat scrambled eggs with chopsticks.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 07:15:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:44:02 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
> >> >> >> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
> >> >> >> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
> >> >> >> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
> >> >> >> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
> >> >> >> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
> >> >> >> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
> >> >> >> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
> >> >> >> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
> >> >> >> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
> >> >> >> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
> >> >> >> Janet US
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
> >> >>
> >> >> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
> >> >> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
> >> >> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
> >> >> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
> >> >> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
> >> >> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
> >> >> Janet US
> >> >
> >> >dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
> >> >Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
> >> >Asians where he lives.
> >> >
> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii
> >
> >Yes, but they have a smaller impact on NYC's culture. Arguably,
> >the Italians have had a greater impact.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> You haven't been to NYC recently, Asians have taken over whole
> neighborhoods, even those that for many decades were predominently
> Italian/Jewish, etc.
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...hoods-map.html
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...thnic_enclaves

Three words: New York pizza

Cindy Hamilton

On 1/10/2018 10:31 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 07:15:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:44:02 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>>>>>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>>>>>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>>>>>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>>>>>>>> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>>>>>>>> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>>>>>>>> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>>>>>>>> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>>>>>>>> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>>>>>>>> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>>>>>>>> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>>>>>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>>>>>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>>>>>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>>>>>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>>>>>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>>>>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>>>>> Asians where he lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii
>>>
>>> Yes, but they have a smaller impact on NYC's culture. Arguably,
>>> the Italians have had a greater impact.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> You haven't been to NYC recently, Asians have taken over whole
>> neighborhoods, even those that for many decades were predominently
>> Italian/Jewish, etc.
>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...hoods-map.html
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...thnic_enclaves
>
> Three words: New York pizza
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Two words:

Jewish deli.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>
>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>> Janet US
>
>dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>Asians where he lives.

Give the man a break. At least he knows everything about the future.

On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 1:30:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
> Asians where he lives.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

There's a lot of diversity on the mainland. What most of all ya'alls haven't done is integrated the ways of the different cultures into a unified hybrid culture. The younger generation will probably make a true multicultural United States a reality in the future but I've been to the mainland and I see how minorities are treated. It sucks.

On 1/9/2018 12:55 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>>> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>>> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>>> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>>> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>>> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>>> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>>> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>> Janet US
>>
>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>
> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
> Janet US
>
I love oxtails *and* grits. LOL Do I eat either one every day or even
every month? No.

Jill

On 1/10/2018 6:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc.(snippage by Jill)
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>
>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>> Janet US
>
> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
> Asians where he lives.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Maybe he should do a little reading before trying to make proclamations
about what hardly seems American.

Jill

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:01:55 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:26:59 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2018-01-09 10:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> I learned how to use them so early, I only recall my brother and sister
>>> laughing with our Mom as we ate the rare takeout and part of the treat,
>>> was to eat with them. Mom suspended her normal 'polite eating' rules
>>> and we were to put our faces over our plates so any food dropped hit
>>> there to be gathererd back in next try. Good chance I was 3-4 then.
>>>
>>> The fact that I many decades later moved to asia for a bit is
>>> irrelevant. I learned this skill as a very young child.
>>>
>>> I have always looked at it as pure fun! Later, I learned it can be
>>> more efficient as well with some foods and that using the longer ones
>>> as tongs in cooking works very well.
>>
>>
>>I still think it peculiar the white people use chopsticks only when
>>eating Chinese and a couple other Asian foods. You see them trying to
>>eat steamed or fried rice with chop sticks, but not risotto.
>>>
>
>good info! I hadn't realized that black people never used chopsticks
>when eating Chinese food.

Have you ever tried to eat corn on the cob, fried chicken, and
watermelon with chopsticks... I rest my case. lol

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:17:17 -0700, Casa estilo antiguo
> wrote:

>On 1/10/2018 7:43 AM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>>>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>>>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>>>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>>>>>> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>>>>>> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>>>>>> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>>>>>> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>>>>>> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>>>>>> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>>>>>> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>>>
>>>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>>>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>>>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>>>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>>>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>>>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>>> Asians where he lives.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii
>>
> But they are nowhere near the majority.

The NYC majority are Dumbocrats.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:37:52 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/9/2018 12:55 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>>>> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>>>> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>>>> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>>>> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>>>> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>>>> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>>>> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>
>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>> Janet US
>>
>I love oxtails *and* grits. LOL Do I eat either one every day or even
>every month? No.
>
>Jill

why Jill, I do believe you qualify as an American!

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:45:10 -0700, Casa estilo antiguo
> wrote:

>On 1/10/2018 10:31 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 07:15:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:44:02 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>>>>>>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>>>>>>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>>>>>>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>>>>>>>>> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>>>>>>>>> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>>>>>>>>> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>>>>>>>>> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>>>>>>>>> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>>>>>>>>> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>>>>>>>>> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>>>>>>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>>>>>>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>>>>>>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>>>>>>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>>>>>>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>>>>>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>>>>>> Asians where he lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>> There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but they have a smaller impact on NYC's culture. Arguably,
>>>> the Italians have had a greater impact.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> You haven't been to NYC recently, Asians have taken over whole
>>> neighborhoods, even those that for many decades were predominently
>>> Italian/Jewish, etc.
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...hoods-map.html
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...thnic_enclaves
>>
>> Three words: New York pizza
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>Two words:
>
>Jewish deli.

Ha! You can count the Jewish delis in NYC on the fingers of one hand
and two won't be kosher.

On 1/9/2018 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:10:22 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:42:54 AM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not "most" that much I would observe.
>>>
>>> But it's up and coming, sort of like lamb shanks are.
>>
>> I can totally believe up and coming. The younger generation are more open to these "ethnic" foods. They see themselves as multicultural. That is a good thing. I was surprised when my daughter and brother ordered pork shanks in a restaurant recently. That was downhome upscale food and it was just wonderful stuff.
>
> Up and coming is stupid. Oxtails have been for sale all over the U.S.
> since I was a child. Someone must have been buying and eating them.
> Up and Coming also applies to Mexican, Thai, etc.
>
What's this about lamb shanks? They're not "up and coming", either.
I've been buying them a couple of times a year for the last 20 years at
least. There have been so many threads here about lamb shanks in that
time I couldn't begin to count them. Also threads about oxtail soup.

Methinks dsi1 needs to study up on food on the mainland before he starts
trying to pretend he knows what is trending.

Jill

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:23:58 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/9/2018 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:10:22 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:42:54 AM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's not "most" that much I would observe.
>>>>
>>>> But it's up and coming, sort of like lamb shanks are.
>>>
>>> I can totally believe up and coming. The younger generation are more open to these "ethnic" foods. They see themselves as multicultural. That is a good thing. I was surprised when my daughter and brother ordered pork shanks in a restaurant recently. That was downhome upscale food and it was just wonderful stuff.
>>
>> Up and coming is stupid. Oxtails have been for sale all over the U.S.
>> since I was a child. Someone must have been buying and eating them.
>> Up and Coming also applies to Mexican, Thai, etc.
>>
>What's this about lamb shanks? They're not "up and coming", either.
>I've been buying them a couple of times a year for the last 20 years at
>least. There have been so many threads here about lamb shanks in that
>time I couldn't begin to count them. Also threads about oxtail soup.
>
>Methinks dsi1 needs to study up on food on the mainland before he starts
>trying to pretend he knows what is trending.

Give the man a break. At least he knows what 40 year old kids like!

On 1/10/2018 3:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:23:58 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/9/2018 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:10:22 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:42:54 AM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not "most" that much I would observe.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it's up and coming, sort of like lamb shanks are.
>>>>
>>>> I can totally believe up and coming. The younger generation are more open to these "ethnic" foods. They see themselves as multicultural. That is a good thing. I was surprised when my daughter and brother ordered pork shanks in a restaurant recently. That was downhome upscale food and it was just wonderful stuff.
>>>
>>> Up and coming is stupid. Oxtails have been for sale all over the U.S.
>>> since I was a child. Someone must have been buying and eating them.
>>> Up and Coming also applies to Mexican, Thai, etc.
>>>
>> What's this about lamb shanks? They're not "up and coming", either.
>> I've been buying them a couple of times a year for the last 20 years at
>> least. There have been so many threads here about lamb shanks in that
>> time I couldn't begin to count them. Also threads about oxtail soup.
>>
>> Methinks dsi1 needs to study up on food on the mainland before he starts
>> trying to pretend he knows what is trending.
>
> Give the man a break. At least he knows what 40 year old kids like!
>
>
Waka waka nuka licka, waka waka nuka licka
Would you like a lei?

On 1/9/2018 10:20 PM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom
>>> (she loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that
>>> people decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate
>>> it when sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the
>>> big muscle parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch
>>> meats that were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an
>>> animal. If you are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better
>>> be willing to eat the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>> Janet US
>>
>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know
>> they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I
>> remain unconvinced.
>
> You have to be an actual COOK to think of it. That is the same where
> you are.
>
He needs to be an actual cook who knows what people who live on the
mainland cook.

Jill

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:30:02 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:23:58 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 1/9/2018 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:10:22 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:42:54 AM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not "most" that much I would observe.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it's up and coming, sort of like lamb shanks are.
>>>>
>>>> I can totally believe up and coming. The younger generation are more open to these "ethnic" foods. They see themselves as multicultural. That is a good thing. I was surprised when my daughter and brother ordered pork shanks in a restaurant recently. That was downhome upscale food and it was just wonderful stuff.
>>>
>>> Up and coming is stupid. Oxtails have been for sale all over the U.S.
>>> since I was a child. Someone must have been buying and eating them.
>>> Up and Coming also applies to Mexican, Thai, etc.
>>>
>>What's this about lamb shanks? They're not "up and coming", either.
>>I've been buying them a couple of times a year for the last 20 years at
>>least. There have been so many threads here about lamb shanks in that
>>time I couldn't begin to count them. Also threads about oxtail soup.
>>
>>Methinks dsi1 needs to study up on food on the mainland before he starts
>>trying to pretend he knows what is trending.
>
>Give the man a break. At least he knows what 40 year olds like!

Ha! Everyone knows that... 18 year olds! lol

On 1/10/2018 12:08 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 1:30:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>> Asians where he lives.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> There's a lot of diversity on the mainland. What most of all ya'alls haven't done is integrated the ways of the different cultures into a unified hybrid culture.

I'm not at all sure that's necessary or even beneficial, it's like
mixing so much paint you end up with a mud slurry.

Think of it in animal terms - if every dog is a mutt there are defacto
no more bird dogs or rat terriers.

That would be a great loss of diversity.

> The younger generation will probably make a true multicultural United States a reality in the future but I've been to the mainland and I see how minorities are treated. It sucks.
>

Not round here it doesn't!

On 1/10/2018 12:51 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:01:55 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:26:59 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-01-09 10:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> I learned how to use them so early, I only recall my brother and sister
>>>> laughing with our Mom as we ate the rare takeout and part of the treat,
>>>> was to eat with them. Mom suspended her normal 'polite eating' rules
>>>> and we were to put our faces over our plates so any food dropped hit
>>>> there to be gathererd back in next try. Good chance I was 3-4 then.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that I many decades later moved to asia for a bit is
>>>> irrelevant. I learned this skill as a very young child.
>>>>
>>>> I have always looked at it as pure fun! Later, I learned it can be
>>>> more efficient as well with some foods and that using the longer ones
>>>> as tongs in cooking works very well.
>>>
>>>
>>> I still think it peculiar the white people use chopsticks only when
>>> eating Chinese and a couple other Asian foods. You see them trying to
>>> eat steamed or fried rice with chop sticks, but not risotto.
>>>>
>>
>> good info! I hadn't realized that black people never used chopsticks
>> when eating Chinese food.
>
> Have you ever tried to eat corn on the cob, fried chicken, and
> watermelon with chopsticks... I rest my case. lol
>

....well they're not supposed to replace your fingers ya know...

On 1/10/2018 1:19 PM, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Gifted.

forged.

On 1/10/2018 1:21 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:45:10 -0700, Casa estilo antiguo
> > wrote:
>
>> On 1/10/2018 10:31 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 07:15:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:44:02 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:30:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:33:48 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>>>>>>>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>>>>>>>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>>>>>>>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom (she
>>>>>>>>>> loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that people
>>>>>>>>>> decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate it when
>>>>>>>>>> sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the big muscle
>>>>>>>>>> parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch meats that
>>>>>>>>>> were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an animal. If you
>>>>>>>>>> are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better be willing to eat
>>>>>>>>>> the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I remain unconvinced.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You said 'eating oxtail hardly seems American" I've expressed that
>>>>>>>> 'Americans' do in fact eat oxtail In fact, it has become hard to find
>>>>>>>> and very expensive because certain restaurants and areas of the
>>>>>>>> country make specialties with oxtail. I do not need to show you that
>>>>>>>> most (what ever that is) Americans eat it. That's a ridiculous
>>>>>>>> statement like asking do most people on the mainland eat grits? No.
>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>>>>>>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>>>>>>> Asians where he lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are probably more Asians in NYC than in Hawaii
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but they have a smaller impact on NYC's culture. Arguably,
>>>>> the Italians have had a greater impact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> You haven't been to NYC recently, Asians have taken over whole
>>>> neighborhoods, even those that for many decades were predominently
>>>> Italian/Jewish, etc.
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...hoods-map.html
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...thnic_enclaves
>>>
>>> Three words: New York pizza
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>> Two words:
>>
>> Jewish deli.
>
> Ha! You can count the Jewish delis in NYC on the fingers of one hand
> and two won't be kosher.
>

Oh boy, here we go again...

Is there some reason a deli /has/ to be Kosher to be good?

http://jewishtraveladvisor.com/koshe...%20York%20city

http://jewishtraveladvisor.com/koshe...php?cities=all

https://www.timeout.com/newyork/rest...h-delis-in-nyc

On 1/10/2018 1:23 PM, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
> Why do Jewish men

racist forger.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:12:44 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/9/2018 10:20 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:09:32 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> where do you suppose those Americans came from? They brought all
>>>> their favorite foods with them because even here in the U,S,, cattle
>>>> have tails, chicken have feet, etc. Sweetbreads was one of my
>>>> favorites as a child. I ate pickled pigs feet along with my mom
>>>> (she loved them) We ate liver. It is only in recent times that
>>>> people decided they should only eat the big muscle parts. I hate
>>>> it when sausage advertises that it is made solely with some of the
>>>> big muscle parts of the animal. We love bacon, sausage and lunch
>>>> meats that were originally devised to utilize lesser parts of an
>>>> animal. If you are going to kill an animal for food, you'd better
>>>> be willing to eat the whole darn thing. End of sermon
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> I never said that people on the mainland don't eat oxtail. I know
>>> they do. If you tell me that most people love the stuff over there, I
>>> remain unconvinced.
>>
>> You have to be an actual COOK to think of it. That is the same where
>> you are.
>>
>He needs to be an actual cook who knows what people who live on the
>mainland cook.
>
>Jill

I'm just really surprised. I always thought of Hawaii as part of the
United States but apparently not.
Janet US

On 1/10/2018 1:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/9/2018 1:53 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:10:22 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:42:54 AM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's not "most" that much I would observe.
>>>>
>>>> But it's up and coming, sort of like lamb shanks are.
>>>
>>> I can totally believe up and coming. The younger generation are more
>>> open to these "ethnic" foods. They see themselves as multicultural.
>>> That is a good thing. I was surprised when my daughter and brother
>>> ordered pork shanks in a restaurant recently. That was downhome
>>> upscale food and it was just wonderful stuff.
>>
>> Up and coming is stupid.Â* Oxtails have been for sale all over the U.S.
>> since I was a child.Â* Someone must have been buying and eating them.
>> Up and Coming also applies to Mexican, Thai, etc.
>>
> What's this about lamb shanks?Â* They're not "up and coming", either.
> I've been buying them a couple of times a year for the last 20 years at
> least.

So?

They ARE an up and coming restaurant menu item, last 4-5 years, iirc...

http://www.restaurant-hospitality.co...nks-rise-ranks

http://www.culinarytrends.net/Lamb%2...he%20Rack.html

http://www.restaurant-hospitality.co...nks-rise-ranks

> There have been so many threads here about lamb shanks in that
> time I couldn't begin to count them.Â* Also threads about oxtail soup.
>
> Methinks dsi1 needs to study up on food on the mainland before he starts
> trying to pretend he knows what is trending.
>
> Jill

Oh stop being such an old dowager about it.

Anyone with any food service background at all can confirm that lamb
shanks are trending.

On 1/10/2018 1:36 PM, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
> Waka waka
racist forger.

On 2018-01-10 1:47 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>> Asians where he lives.
>
> Give the man a break. At least he knows everything about the future.


There has been a definite change in the complexion of North America. We
not only have increasing numbers of people of various races, but there
are ever increasing incidence of multiracial people. When I went to San
Francisco a couple years ago I expected to see lot of Asian, but what
surprised me was that there were so many biracial Asians <??>.....
people with Asian and one more other characteristics.

Not a bad thing.... just an observation.

On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 11:36:16 AM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
> On 1/10/2018 12:08 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 1:30:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
> >> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
> >> Asians where he lives.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > There's a lot of diversity on the mainland. What most of all ya'alls haven't done is integrated the ways of the different cultures into a unified hybrid culture.
>
> I'm not at all sure that's necessary or even beneficial, it's like
> mixing so much paint you end up with a mud slurry.
>
> Think of it in animal terms - if every dog is a mutt there are defacto
> no more bird dogs or rat terriers.
>
> That would be a great loss of diversity.
>
> > The younger generation will probably make a true multicultural United States a reality in the future but I've been to the mainland and I see how minorities are treated. It sucks.
> >
>
> Not round here it doesn't!

You sound like a multicultural kind of guy. That's cool but it seems that the rfc haole enclave is pitching a hissy fit over this oxtail "incident." My mind boggles at the pettiness of these small minded individuals. In the end, you just gotta chuckle.

On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 11:49:28 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> I'm just really surprised. I always thought of Hawaii as part of the
> United States but apparently not.
> Janet US

Culturally, we're quite different from most of the mainland. We don't have to act like white folk to move throughout the day. Nobody is going to hassle you for eating rice or using chopsticks with your meal. That is a very good thing.

I always thought of Puerto Rico as part of the United States but apparently not.*

*You might think that making catty, snide, and snooty, remarks is the height of witticism. It is not.

On 1/10/2018 6:08 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 11:36:16 AM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
>> On 1/10/2018 12:08 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 1:30:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>>>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>>>> Asians where he lives.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> There's a lot of diversity on the mainland. What most of all ya'alls haven't done is integrated the ways of the different cultures into a unified hybrid culture.
>>
>> I'm not at all sure that's necessary or even beneficial, it's like
>> mixing so much paint you end up with a mud slurry.
>>
>> Think of it in animal terms - if every dog is a mutt there are defacto
>> no more bird dogs or rat terriers.
>>
>> That would be a great loss of diversity.
>>
>>> The younger generation will probably make a true multicultural United States a reality in the future but I've been to the mainland and I see how minorities are treated. It sucks.
>>>
>>
>> Not round here it doesn't!
>
> You sound like a multicultural kind of guy.

That's our state - Native American, Lationo, Anglo, some African
American and pan-Asian.

It works too, seriously.

This is a place where we have a far bigger common enemy than any of us
ethnically or our skin coloration - opiods.


> That's cool but it seems that the rfc haole enclave is pitching a hissy fit over this oxtail "incident."

Loving the classic Western "lynch mob/bully" idiom there, tee hee...

> My mind boggles at the pettiness of these small minded individuals. In the end, you just gotta chuckle.
>

My mind boggles, but like elastic that's been stretched too many times
it never comes all the way back together...

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