On 2018-01-11 12:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:

> Westerners have some problem with the Asian concept of loss of face.
> Loss of face has nothing to do with the individual. To save face
> means to avoid making others feel uncomfortable or look bad. This
> means you need at least two people involved and usually, it's several
> or many more people. This is pretty much the opposite of the American
> style zero sum model of interaction.
>

Yeah. We get it. Loss of face is about being held accountable for bad
behaviour.

On 1/9/2018 6:45 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I don't know what salmon cakes are. Cake sounds like a sweet. Anyway,
>> salmon patties are great. Mackerel patties are even better.
>
> In this context, cake = patty. Like a cake of soap,
> the word "cake" can refer to any flattish mass.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Salmon patties/cakes are so much better than mackerel. They aren't
croquettes, though, and not eggless. I definitely add an egg to the
mixture for my salmon patties/cakes.

Jill

On 1/11/2018 12:22 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >,
> dsi1 > wrote:
>
>> Please inform your king of our arrival in about 2 months. No need to make a
>> big deal about it. A small, simple, luau for around 500 Hawaiians would be fine.
>
> There's no need to inform him. If you arrive in The People's Republic
> of California, you will be given much weed on the shore (first contact
> is free) and become too stoned to move after a mile. You will be
> embraced, absorbed, your possessions seized, and you will be led to
> believe that you won.

And offered a nice place on the street to veg out on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7HozzSGakA
>
> [ObFood] I'm using my oven's self-clean feature tonight. Two years
> worth of incinerating food doesn't smell too good all at once.
> Meh...kinda about food.
>
> leo
>

On 1/11/2018 12:39 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:26:59 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-01-09 10:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> I learned how to use them so early, I only recall my brother and sister
>>>> laughing with our Mom as we ate the rare takeout and part of the treat,
>>>> was to eat with them.Â* Mom suspended her normal 'polite eating' rules
>>>> and we were to put our faces over our plates so any food dropped hit
>>>> there to be gathererd back in next try.Â* Good chance I was 3-4 then.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that I many decades later moved to asia for a bit is
>>>> irrelevant. I learned this skill as a very young child.
>>>>
>>>> I have always looked at it as pure fun!Â* Later, I learned it can be
>>>> more efficient as well with some foods and that using the longer ones
>>>> as tongs in cooking works very well.
>>>
>>>
>>> I still think it peculiar the white people use chopsticks only when
>>> eating Chinese and a couple other Asian foods. You see them trying to
>>> eat steamed or fried rice with chop sticks, but not risotto.
>>>>
>>
>> good info!Â* I hadn't realized that black people never used chopsticks
>> when eating Chinese food.
>
> They don't eat Chinese food.

HUH?!?!?!

Are you serious?????

On 2018-01-11 12:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:

> You come across as being quite racist so I guess we're even. Some
> Hawaiians do feel resentful of the haoles. Who can blame them? You'd
> be ****ed too if some foreigners stole your land. My wife, a haole
> born in Montana, is resentful of some mainland haoles. The way they
> treated her mom, a Korean, still gives her great pain.

Yeah yeah, White racism. For some reason, white racism seems to be the
only racism that people of colour seem to notice because only whites
can be racist. I wonder how your mother in law would have felt if she
had been in Korea when the Japanese were gathering up the Korean women
to serve as "comfort women" or if she had been in Nanking when the
Japanese slaughtered 300,000 civilians, and the women were usually raped
and mutilated before being murdered. How about the thriving slave
culture in Africa? The settlers in the American colonies had lots of
indentured slaves, but they learned that it was cheaper to buy African
slaves because capturing and enslaving rivals was a major business in
that continent.



Yoose got a
> lot of nerve acting holier than thou. I have seen with my own eyes
> that yoose guys are still fighting the Civil War. That's backwards,
> in my awesome opinion. The way yoose guys want to push people out of
> this country just makes me sick. That's all I have to say about
> that.
>

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:11:13 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/9/2018 6:45 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know what salmon cakes are. Cake sounds like a sweet. Anyway,
>>> salmon patties are great. Mackerel patties are even better.
>>
>> In this context, cake = patty. Like a cake of soap,
>> the word "cake" can refer to any flattish mass.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>Salmon patties/cakes are so much better than mackerel. They aren't
>croquettes, though, and not eggless. I definitely add an egg to the
>mixture for my salmon patties/cakes.

I think you can also make them without egg, although we tend to add
one. I prefer mackerel patties. They have a bit more flavour than
salmon patties, but salmon is good too.

On 1/11/2018 1:21 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 7:33:18 PM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
>>
>>
>> Our social equation lacks an escape hatch.
>>
>> Not so smart.
>>
>> Now our tech reflects an embellishes this.
>>
>> Would you end this if you were AI?
>>
>> I would.
>>
>> .......
>
> They'll just quantify the human species as an equation. If the sum is greater than pi or some other suitable number, we live. Otherwise, it's curtains for us.
>

This ant farm is known to get a good cleaning from eon to eon.

It's overdue as we speak.

5th world awaits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_...ican_mythology)

The Hopis creation myth is slightly different than the creation myths
of the Aztecs and Navajo. The Hopi believe we are currently living in
the Fourth World, but are on the threshold of the Fifth World.

In each of the three previous worlds humanity was destroyed by
destructive practices and wars. Similar to the Navajo myth, the Hopi
myth has many variations because it is an oral prophecy. In the most
common version of the story the Spider Grandmother (Kookyangso'wuuti)
caused a reed to grow into the sky, and it emerged in the Fourth World
at the sipapu, a small tunnel or inter-dimensional passage. As the end
of one world draws near the sipapu appears to lead the Hopi into the
next phase of the world.[

On 1/11/2018 2:07 AM, sanne wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 09:55:13 UTC+1 schrieb dsi1:
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:22:28 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>
>>> There's no need to inform him. If you arrive in The People's Republic
>>> of California, you will be given much weed on the shore (first contact
>>> is free) and become too stoned to move after a mile. You will be
>>> embraced, absorbed, your possessions seized, and you will be led to
>>> believe that you won.
>>>
>>> [ObFood] I'm using my oven's self-clean feature tonight. Two years
>>> worth of incinerating food doesn't smell too good all at once.
>>> Meh...kinda about food.
>>>
>>> leo
>>
>> Forget those cow tails! Just load the weed on the canoes and we'll be
>> on our way. We'll leave you all the poi you can eat! If history has
>> taught us anything, it'll be about a pound...
>
> Careful - you may need it after you've consumed the weed...

lol
>
>> Good luck with the oven cleaning. The first and only time I used that
>> cycle, it killed my oven's temperature sensor. This is what I get
>> for buying expensive Korean junk!
>
> Ovens still are not standard in Korean households, the manufacturers just
> don't have (or didn't; how old is your oven?) enough experience yet.
> The best Korean teacher we had to learn the language brought a German
> stove with her when she returned to Korea.
>
> Bye, Sanne.
>

Credible explanation.

At least their laundry stuff is sorted.

On 1/11/2018 4:07 AM, sanne wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 09:55:13 UTC+1 schrieb dsi1:
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:22:28 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>
>>> There's no need to inform him. If you arrive in The People's Republic
>>> of California, you will be given much weed on the shore (first contact
>>> is free) and become too stoned to move after a mile. You will be
>>> embraced, absorbed, your possessions seized, and you will be led to
>>> believe that you won.
>>>
>>> [ObFood] I'm using my oven's self-clean feature tonight. Two years
>>> worth of incinerating food doesn't smell too good all at once.
>>> Meh...kinda about food.
>>>
>>> leo
>>
>> Forget those cow tails! Just load the weed on the canoes and we'll be
>> on our way. We'll leave you all the poi you can eat! If history has
>> taught us anything, it'll be about a pound...
>
> Careful - you may need it after you've consumed the weed...
>
>> Good luck with the oven cleaning. The first and only time I used that
>> cycle, it killed my oven's temperature sensor. This is what I get
>> for buying expensive Korean junk!
>
> Ovens still are not standard in Korean households, the manufacturers just
> don't have (or didn't; how old is your oven?) enough experience yet.
> The best Korean teacher we had to learn the language brought a German
> stove with her when she returned to Korea.
>
> Bye, Sanne.
>
I guess no one else noticed dsi1 saying his wife (a haole from Montana,
which is definitely mainland US) is still upset because of the way her
*Korean* mother was treated by haoles on the mainland. Now he's
ranting about "Korean junk". Sounds a hell of a lot like John Kuthe and
his rants about China, doesn't he?

Jill

On 1/11/2018 2:52 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 11:07:29 PM UTC-10, sanne wrote:
>>
>> Ovens still are not standard in Korean households, the manufacturers just
>> don't have (or didn't; how old is your oven?) enough experience yet.
>> The best Korean teacher we had to learn the language brought a German
>> stove with her when she returned to Korea.
>>
>> Bye, Sanne.
>
> I guess that means that the Koreans have very small apartments like the Japanese? They don't have much in the way of ovens either. What they do have is small broilers for grilling fish. I wish I had one of those in my oven.
>

I used to have a cooktop with a center broiling insert with an electric
element and small pebble bed.

I do not think they make them anymore.

It was nifty, but 1500 watts was not enough to do a great job.

> Oddly enough, one of Hawaii's most beloved singers was born and raised in Germany. When she arrived here in 1980, she was determined to learn the language and culture. That she did. She has been a associate professor of Hawaiian languages at the University of Hawaii and an award winning singer. It's a most unlikely story. That's the way it is on this tiny rock. If you embrace the culture, you will be accepted.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKqcAkZKgw

Man, she reminds me of an island style Loretta Lynn!

Maybe then your culture is mostly hybridized, yes?

I wonder though if that chafes on the more traditional Samoan or other
Micronesian elements?

On 1/11/2018 4:13 AM, sanne wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 10:52:44 UTC+1 schrieb dsi1:
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 11:07:29 PM UTC-10, sanne wrote:
>>>
>>> Ovens still are not standard in Korean households, the manufacturers just
>>> don't have (or didn't; how old is your oven?) enough experience yet.
>>> The best Korean teacher we had to learn the language brought a German
>>> stove with her when she returned to Korea.
>>>
>>> Bye, Sanne.
>>
>> I guess that means that the Koreans have very small apartments like the
>> Japanese? They don't have much in the way of ovens either. What they do
>> have is small broilers for grilling fish. I wish I had one of those in
>> my oven.
>
> Most places are small, but they do have ondol or ondol mats for
> sleeping - floor heating. And they have small gas cookers with gas-cans.
> Those are really great; I have two of them but mostly use them when
> making Feuerzangenbowle or barbecue at the table.
> And rice cookers that are even used for baking cheesecake. I do much of my
> cooking in one of those (a 10-cup-version) - that one doesn't talk or has
> a pressure mode (we have one of the latter, too - but it's tiny; I prefer
> my large pressure-cooker), but it works like a slow cooker in some aspects.
> Only cook on high until its content tend to burn, then it switches to
> "keep warm" - ideal for sugo, porkolt, risotto and the like. And even rice...
> ;-)
>
>> Oddly enough, one of Hawaii's most beloved singers was born and raised
>> in Germany. When she arrived here in 1980, she was determined to learn
>> the language and culture. That she did. She has been a associate
>> professor of Hawaiian languages at the University of Hawaii and an
>> award winning singer. It's a most unlikely story. That's the way it
>> is on this tiny rock. If you embrace the culture, you will be accepted.
>
> Same in Korea - I don't speak much Korean (my husband is much better at it),
> but we share the interest in Korean culture and manners - one of the first
> books we purchased when we spent our first vacation there was "Ugly
> Americans - Ugly Koreans", a bilingual book pointing out the differences
> in behavior that are unnerving or seem rude even to the other culture.
> This small book was outdated in some aspects even back then - but only in
> Seoul among younger people; in the country, smaller cities and towns, even
> in Busan and among elder people, our respect for Korean manners is much
> appreciated. Same with our interest in culture and language - a few words,
> and everybody praises your knowledge of the language...
> We always ate where the Koreans ate; look for the at lunchtime crowded
> places and eat there afterwards or next time before rush-hour.
> Often, we were the only westerners who ever had showed up there -
> "You American?" - "No, I'm German." (in Korean, of course... ;-))
> We never stayed at fancy hotels - the motels were clean, the staff
> friendly, we had bathrooms with at least showers to our own, fridge,
> hot-and-cold water dispensers, ac, TV,... for around 30$ for 2...
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKqcAkZKgw
>
> But I didn't see her talk, she always had that guitar in her hands!
>
> Bye, Sanne.
>

What a fascinating post, tnx for sharing!

On 1/11/2018 4:45 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 2:08:41 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 1:30:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>>> Asians where he lives.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> There's a lot of diversity on the mainland. What most of all ya'alls haven't done is integrated the ways of the different cultures into a unified hybrid culture. The younger generation will probably make a true multicultural United States a reality in the future but I've been to the mainland and I see how minorities are treated. It sucks.
>
> I don't want a unified hybrid culture. I'd rather have a stew than a
> puree. It's more interesting.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

There we go - agreed!

But some blending ain't bad at all.

On 1/11/2018 4:50 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:26:30 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 4:00:18 PM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2018 6:08 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 11:36:16 AM UTC-10, Casa estilo antiguo wrote:
>>>>> On 1/10/2018 12:08 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 1:30:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dsi1 seems to have a blind spot about the sheer diversity of mainland
>>>>>>> Americans. It's only to be expected, given the predominance of
>>>>>>> Asians where he lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a lot of diversity on the mainland. What most of all ya'alls haven't done is integrated the ways of the different cultures into a unified hybrid culture.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not at all sure that's necessary or even beneficial, it's like
>>>>> mixing so much paint you end up with a mud slurry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think of it in animal terms - if every dog is a mutt there are defacto
>>>>> no more bird dogs or rat terriers.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be a great loss of diversity.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The younger generation will probably make a true multicultural United States a reality in the future but I've been to the mainland and I see how minorities are treated. It sucks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not round here it doesn't!
>>>>
>>>> You sound like a multicultural kind of guy.
>>>
>>> That's our state - Native American, Lationo, Anglo, some African
>>> American and pan-Asian.
>>>
>>> It works too, seriously.
>>>
>>> This is a place where we have a far bigger common enemy than any of us
>>> ethnically or our skin coloration - opiods.
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's cool but it seems that the rfc haole enclave is pitching a hissy fit over this oxtail "incident."
>>>
>>> Loving the classic Western "lynch mob/bully" idiom there, tee hee...
>>>
>>>> My mind boggles at the pettiness of these small minded individuals. In the end, you just gotta chuckle.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My mind boggles, but like elastic that's been stretched too many times
>>> it never comes all the way back together...
>>>
>>> %-|
>>
>> I would like the people you live with. Too many white people in one place makes me nervous. You never know what they got up their sleeves. They might be planning to steal your land.
>
> Oh, look. You don't have to be white to be racist.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Just human, it's in each and every danged one of us to some extent.

Crazy no?

Making melanin some kind of determinant of anything more than skin
cancer susceptibility is bizarre!

On 1/11/2018 4:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 12:01:54 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 6:42:06 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> I wasn't trying to be witty. you are coming across as being very
>>> resentful of 'Americans' who you view as white folks. you are quite
>>> racist. Do all native Hawaiians feel resentful of people on the
>>> mainland?
>>
>> You come across as being quite racist so I guess we're even. Some Hawaiians do feel resentful of the haoles. Who can blame them? You'd be ****ed too if some foreigners stole your land. My wife, a haole born in Montana, is resentful of some mainland haoles. The way they treated her mom, a Korean, still gives her great pain. Yoose got a lot of nerve acting holier than thou. I have seen with my own eyes that yoose guys are still fighting the Civil War.
>
> Where were you on the mainland when you saw this?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

I am curious too.

I tend to avoid the deep south so my perceptions are almost as localized
as Sheldon's in some respects.

On 2018-01-11 8:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/11/2018 6:50 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> I would like the people you live with. Too many white people in one
>>> place makes me nervous. You never know what they got up their
>>> sleeves. They might be planning to steal your land.
>>
>> Oh, look.Â* You don't have to be white to be racist.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> And you don't have to be Native American to have your land taken over by
> the US government.

I am hard pressed to think of any part of the world where one group has
not encroached on their neighbours. Even the supposedly gentle Inuit
culture of our far north are recent arrivals to that god forsaken land
and had replaced an earlier culture.

I live in an area where the local indigenous people had been wiped out
in warfare between to other native groups. Many of the native bans
inhabited territories only so long as they could defend it from their
enemies.

On 1/11/2018 6:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/11/2018 6:50 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> I would like the people you live with. Too many white people in one
>>> place makes me nervous. You never know what they got up their
>>> sleeves. They might be planning to steal your land.
>>
>> Oh, look.Â* You don't have to be white to be racist.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> And you don't have to be Native American to have your land taken over by
> the US government.

See:

Tennessee Valley Authority and any interstate highway or urban
redevelopment project...

On 1/11/2018 8:15 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 03:53:49 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 12:01:54 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 6:42:06 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't trying to be witty. you are coming across as being very
>>>> resentful of 'Americans' who you view as white folks. you are quite
>>>> racist. Do all native Hawaiians feel resentful of people on the
>>>> mainland?
>>>
>>> You come across as being quite racist so I guess we're even. Some Hawaiians do feel resentful of the haoles. Who can blame them? You'd be ****ed too if some foreigners stole your land. My wife, a haole born in Montana, is resentful of some mainland haoles. The way they treated her mom, a Korean, still gives her great pain. Yoose got a lot of nerve acting holier than thou. I have seen with my own eyes that yoose guys are still fighting the Civil War.
>>
>> Where were you on the mainland when you saw this?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> The little POS has probably never set foot on the US mainland. In all
> my years I've not encountered anyone so racist and ignorant as dsi1,
> the little POS doesn't know race from ethnicity, he hates everyone.
>


Pot/kettle perhaps?

You're about as provincial as they come.

On 1/11/2018 8:54 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>
> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
> "rock." Say something otherwise to him and he turns quite mean
> and rude, fairly often lately too. Not the friendliest person on
> the Rock, imo.
>
> Sorry Dsil but this the impression you give me. Now you can toss
> out mean things about me. It's only fair to do and you're good at
> it.
>

This is needless and what makes RFC into a virtual cock fight in an ant
farm.

Just stop.

Can we not all get along, please?

On 1/11/2018 9:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-01-11 12:29 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Westerners have some problem with the Asian concept of loss of face.
>> Loss of face has nothing to do with the individual. To save face
>> means to avoid making others feel uncomfortable or look bad. This
>> means you need at least two people involved and usually, it's several
>> or many more people. This is pretty much the opposite of the American
>> style zero sum model of interaction.
>>
>
> Yeah. We get it. Loss of face is about being held accountable for bad
> behaviour.


People can be held accountable in a polite and honest manner, really.

On 1/11/2018 9:24 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/11/2018 4:07 AM, sanne wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 09:55:13 UTC+1 schrieb dsi1:
>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 9:22:28 PM UTC-10, Leonard
>>> Blaisdell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There's no need to inform him. If you arrive in The People's Republic
>>>> of California, you will be given much weed on the shore (first contact
>>>> is free) and become too stoned to move after a mile. You will be
>>>> embraced, absorbed, your possessions seized, and you will be led to
>>>> believe that you won.
>>>>
>>>> [ObFood] I'm using my oven's self-clean feature tonight. Two years
>>>> worth of incinerating food doesn't smell too good all at once.
>>>> Meh...kinda about food.
>>>>
>>>> leo
>>>
>>> Forget those cow tails! Just load the weed on the canoes and we'll be
>>> on our way. We'll leave you all the poi you can eat! If history has
>>> taught us anything, it'll be about a pound...
>>
>> Careful - you may need it after you've consumed the weed...
>>
>>> Good luck with the oven cleaning. The first and only time I used that
>>> cycle, it killed my oven's temperature sensor. This is what I get
>>> for buying expensive Korean junk!
>>
>> Ovens still are not standard in Korean households, the manufacturers just
>> don't have (or didn't; how old is your oven?) enough experience yet.
>> The best Korean teacher we had to learn the language brought a German
>> stove with her when she returned to Korea.
>>
>> Bye, Sanne.
>>
> I guess no one else noticed dsi1 saying his wife (a haole from Montana,
> which is definitely mainland US) is still upset because of the way her
> *Korean*Â* mother was treated by haoles on the mainland.Â* Now he's
> ranting about "Korean junk".Â* Sounds a hell of a lot like John Kuthe and
> his rants about China, doesn't he?
>
> Jill

Congratulations on wading in with a can of gasoline to make it all worse.

Nicely done!

On 1/11/2018 10:54 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>
> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
> "rock."
(snippage)

Oh, I realize that. He does act as if no one else knows a thing about
the Hawaiian islands. Just because we don't live there doesn't mean we
are idiots.

The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the only volcanic "rocks" in the
world. Personally, I think I'd rather live in Tahiti.

I promise not to cut my ear off.

Jill

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:56:30 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/11/2018 10:54 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>>
>> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
>> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
>> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
>> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
>> "rock."
>(snippage)
>
>Oh, I realize that. He does act as if no one else knows a thing about
>the Hawaiian islands. Just because we don't live there doesn't mean we
>are idiots.
>
>The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the only volcanic "rocks" in the
>world. Personally, I think I'd rather live in Tahiti.

That was Gauguin.

>I promise not to cut my ear off.

That was Van Gogh.

On 2018-01-11 10:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:56:30 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/11/2018 10:54 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>>>
>>> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
>>> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
>>> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
>>> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
>>> "rock."
>> (snippage)
>>
>> Oh, I realize that. He does act as if no one else knows a thing about
>> the Hawaiian islands. Just because we don't live there doesn't mean we
>> are idiots.
>>
>> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the only volcanic "rocks" in the
>> world. Personally, I think I'd rather live in Tahiti.
>
> That was Gauguin.
>
>> I promise not to cut my ear off.
>
> That was Van Gogh.
>
*Not* pronounced Van "Go"! :-)

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:13:36 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-01-11 10:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:56:30 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/11/2018 10:54 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>>>>
>>>> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
>>>> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
>>>> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
>>>> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
>>>> "rock."
>>> (snippage)
>>>
>>> Oh, I realize that. He does act as if no one else knows a thing about
>>> the Hawaiian islands. Just because we don't live there doesn't mean we
>>> are idiots.
>>>
>>> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the only volcanic "rocks" in the
>>> world. Personally, I think I'd rather live in Tahiti.
>>
>> That was Gauguin.
>>
>>> I promise not to cut my ear off.
>>
>> That was Van Gogh.
>>
>*Not* pronounced Van "Go"! :-)

No, preferably not And not "Gof" either.

On 2018-01-11 10:16 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:13:36 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-01-11 10:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:56:30 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2018 10:54 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
>>>>> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
>>>>> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
>>>>> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
>>>>> "rock."
>>>> (snippage)
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I realize that. He does act as if no one else knows a thing about
>>>> the Hawaiian islands. Just because we don't live there doesn't mean we
>>>> are idiots.
>>>>
>>>> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the only volcanic "rocks" in the
>>>> world. Personally, I think I'd rather live in Tahiti.
>>>
>>> That was Gauguin.
>>>
>>>> I promise not to cut my ear off.
>>>
>>> That was Van Gogh.
>>>
>> *Not* pronounced Van "Go"! :-)
>
> No, preferably not And not "Gof" either.
>
I know how to pronounce it but it sounds as if I'm clearing my throat in
preparation for spitting:-)

"graham" > wrote in message
news
> *Not* pronounced Van "Go"! :-)

As in "Starry Starry Night" by Don McClean. I love that song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dipFMJckZOM

Cheri

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:20:24 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-01-11 10:16 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:13:36 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-01-11 10:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:56:30 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2018 10:54 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
>>>>>> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
>>>>>> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
>>>>>> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
>>>>>> "rock."
>>>>> (snippage)
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I realize that. He does act as if no one else knows a thing about
>>>>> the Hawaiian islands. Just because we don't live there doesn't mean we
>>>>> are idiots.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the only volcanic "rocks" in the
>>>>> world. Personally, I think I'd rather live in Tahiti.
>>>>
>>>> That was Gauguin.
>>>>
>>>>> I promise not to cut my ear off.
>>>>
>>>> That was Van Gogh.
>>>>
>>> *Not* pronounced Van "Go"! :-)
>>
>> No, preferably not And not "Gof" either.
>>
>I know how to pronounce it but it sounds as if I'm clearing my throat in
>preparation for spitting:-)

That's it.

On 1/11/2018 9:56 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/11/2018 10:54 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>>
>> Â*From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
>> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
>> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
>> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
>> "rock."
> (snippage)
>
> Oh, I realize that.Â* He does act as if no one else knows a thing about
> the Hawaiian islands.Â* Just because we don't live there doesn't mean we
> are idiots.

Hypersensitive aren't we dear?

> The Hawaiian islands are certainly not the only volcanic "rocks" in the
> world.Â* Personally, I think I'd rather live in Tahiti.
>
> I promise not to cut my ear off.
>
> Jill

You'd be no less tone deaf if you did.

On 1/11/2018 10:21 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "graham" > wrote in message
> news >
>> *Not* pronounced Van "Go"! :-)
>
> As in "Starry Starry Night" by Don McClean. I love that song.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dipFMJckZOM
>
> Cheri
>
>
+ 1!

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 1:53:53 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Where were you on the mainland when you saw this?
>
> Cindy Hamilton

You'd be surprised. The first time would be the SF Bay area. The second time was be Washington State. We lived in those places and were treated fine. The black folks weren't. To an outsider it was fairly obvious. I also stayed in FL for a week. That was pretty weird.

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 5:55:06 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>
> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
> "rock." Say something otherwise to him and he turns quite mean
> and rude, fairly often lately too. Not the friendliest person on
> the Rock, imo.
>
> Sorry Dsil but this the impression you give me. Now you can toss
> out mean things about me. It's only fair to do and you're good at
> it.

You toss out some bad stuff too. You justify it by saying it's just kidding and having fun. Was that mean enough?

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 6:18:27 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-01-11 12:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > You come across as being quite racist so I guess we're even. Some
> > Hawaiians do feel resentful of the haoles. Who can blame them? You'd
> > be ****ed too if some foreigners stole your land. My wife, a haole
> > born in Montana, is resentful of some mainland haoles. The way they
> > treated her mom, a Korean, still gives her great pain.
>
> Yeah yeah, White racism. For some reason, white racism seems to be the
> only racism that people of colour seem to notice because only whites
> can be racist. I wonder how your mother in law would have felt if she
> had been in Korea when the Japanese were gathering up the Korean women
> to serve as "comfort women" or if she had been in Nanking when the
> Japanese slaughtered 300,000 civilians, and the women were usually raped
> and mutilated before being murdered. How about the thriving slave
> culture in Africa? The settlers in the American colonies had lots of
> indentured slaves, but they learned that it was cheaper to buy African
> slaves because capturing and enslaving rivals was a major business in
> that continent.
>
If your point is that humans are shitty to each other, I agree.

On 1/11/2018 10:38 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 1:53:53 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Where were you on the mainland when you saw this?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> You'd be surprised. The first time would be the SF Bay area. The second time was be Washington State. We lived in those places and were treated fine. The black folks weren't. To an outsider it was fairly obvious. I also stayed in FL for a week. That was pretty weird.
>

Very surprising given the left coast lib culture - was it a long time back?

Florida I can believe, totally.

On 1/11/2018 10:42 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 5:55:06 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>>
>> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
>> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
>> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
>> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
>> "rock." Say something otherwise to him and he turns quite mean
>> and rude, fairly often lately too. Not the friendliest person on
>> the Rock, imo.
>>
>> Sorry Dsil but this the impression you give me. Now you can toss
>> out mean things about me. It's only fair to do and you're good at
>> it.
>
> You toss out some bad stuff too. You justify it by saying it's just kidding and having fun. Was that mean enough?
>

What the heck is it with this group of late?

I defy ANYONE to show me where skin color determines behavior.

On 1/11/2018 10:44 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 6:18:27 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-01-11 12:01 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> You come across as being quite racist so I guess we're even. Some
>>> Hawaiians do feel resentful of the haoles. Who can blame them? You'd
>>> be ****ed too if some foreigners stole your land. My wife, a haole
>>> born in Montana, is resentful of some mainland haoles. The way they
>>> treated her mom, a Korean, still gives her great pain.
>>
>> Yeah yeah, White racism. For some reason, white racism seems to be the
>> only racism that people of colour seem to notice because only whites
>> can be racist. I wonder how your mother in law would have felt if she
>> had been in Korea when the Japanese were gathering up the Korean women
>> to serve as "comfort women" or if she had been in Nanking when the
>> Japanese slaughtered 300,000 civilians, and the women were usually raped
>> and mutilated before being murdered. How about the thriving slave
>> culture in Africa? The settlers in the American colonies had lots of
>> indentured slaves, but they learned that it was cheaper to buy African
>> slaves because capturing and enslaving rivals was a major business in
>> that continent.
>>
> If your point is that humans are shitty to each other, I agree.
>

ALWAYS!

All races, all humans, all circumstances, etc.

It requires ZERO effort to be an asshole, but slightly more not to.

It's worth the effort, always.

:-)

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 10:43:14 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > I used to eat scrambled eggs with chopsticks.
>
> lol! You "used to"
> You learned better, didn't you?

No, I started scrambling my eggs differently. They come out
all in one piece now, where they used to end up in lots of
little crumbles.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:42:28 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 5:55:06 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> > I get the distinct impression dsi1 doesn't cook.
>>
>> From what I've read, Dsi1 is pretty much the most racist person
>> here on RFC. Go back and read the last 20-30 posts from him. He
>> tries to come across as the happy-go-lucky cool kid but it's not
>> working. He is always cutting down "others" than from his
>> "rock." Say something otherwise to him and he turns quite mean
>> and rude, fairly often lately too. Not the friendliest person on
>> the Rock, imo.
>>
>> Sorry Dsil but this the impression you give me. Now you can toss
>> out mean things about me. It's only fair to do and you're good at
>> it.
>
>You toss out some bad stuff too. You justify it by saying it's just kidding and having fun. Was that mean enough?

That wasn't mean. It was, however, true.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:38:24 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 1:53:53 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Where were you on the mainland when you saw this?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>You'd be surprised. The first time would be the SF Bay area. The second time was be Washington State. We lived in those places and were treated fine. The black folks weren't. To an outsider it was fairly obvious. I also stayed in FL for a week. That was pretty weird.

Michael Moore says that the reason why Americans are so allergic to
the N word and politically incorrect language in general, and so eager
to pull the racism card, is that the US is a profoundly racist
society, but wants to cover that up.

(Shoot Michael Moore, don't shoot the messenger, please.)

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:02:46 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 11-Jan-2018, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> On 1/9/2018 6:45 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't know what salmon cakes are. Cake sounds like a
>> >> sweet. Anyway,
>> >> salmon patties are great. Mackerel patties are even better.
>> >
>> > In this context, cake = patty. Like a cake of soap,
>> > the word "cake" can refer to any flattish mass.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> Salmon patties/cakes are so much better than mackerel. They
>> aren't
>> croquettes, though, and not eggless. I definitely add an egg
>> to the
>> mixture for my salmon patties/cakes.
>
>Isn't the only difference between salmon patties and croquettes
>the shape? At least the ones I have had taste pretty much the
>same, with patties being flat and croquettes round(ish). like a
>small salmon log. Though,I seem to recall croquettes
>occasionally served with a sauce/gravy poured over and have never
>had that with salmon patties.

I think real croquettes are made with a salpicon. The process of
making that is elaborate and includes sacrificing your first-born.
What I would call [fish] patties are much easier to make.

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 12:38:28 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 1:53:53 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Where were you on the mainland when you saw this?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> You'd be surprised. The first time would be the SF Bay area. The second time was be Washington State. We lived in those places and were treated fine.. The black folks weren't. To an outsider it was fairly obvious. I also stayed in FL for a week. That was pretty weird.

That's not about fighting the Civil War, you idiot. The Civil War
wasn't about not being racists, nor was it about treating black
people nicely. You could think black people were inferior and
still think it was a bad idea to own people as chattel.

Cindy Hamilton