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Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The
problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer have the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all together. Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this though. |
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On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 12:09:38 AM UTC-8, Julie Bove wrote:
> Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The > problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some > with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs > and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer have > the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I > think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all together. > > Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of > any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this > though. You can grind up chia seeds and mix with hot water, let stand and it becomes gelatinous enough to bind it. |
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![]() "ImStillMags" > wrote in message ... > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 12:09:38 AM UTC-8, Julie Bove wrote: >> Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >> problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some >> with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs >> and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer >> have >> the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I >> think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all >> together. >> >> Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of >> any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this >> though. > > You can grind up chia seeds and mix with hot water, let stand and it > becomes gelatinous enough to bind it. Thanks! Have not tried that. |
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: >Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some >with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs >and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer have >the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I >think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all together. > >Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of >any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this >though. Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs required. |
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:25:51 -0500, wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 12:03:05 -0700, U.S. Janet B. > >wrote: > >>On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:22:31 -0500, wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>> >>>>Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>>>problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some >>>>with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs >>>>and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer have >>>>the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I >>>>think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all together. >>>> >>>>Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of >>>>any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this >>>>though. >>> >>>Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs >>>required. >> >>you need the egg to hold mashed potato croquettes together. Maybe >>it's possible to mix in enough bread crumbs to make the mashed >>potatoes together. > >You can't cook either... that's why we've never seen anything you've >claimed to have cooked... FRAUD! your memory fails you or you stubbornly refuse to look when I post pictures. Nevertheless. Something is needed to hold the coquettes together. I shudder to think what your mashed potatoes are like if they hold together without a binder. |
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![]() "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:25:51 -0500, wrote: > >>On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 12:03:05 -0700, U.S. Janet B. > >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:22:31 -0500, wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>> >>>>>Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>>>>problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make >>>>>some >>>>>with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread >>>>>crumbs >>>>>and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer >>>>>have >>>>>the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but >>>>>I >>>>>think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all >>>>>together. >>>>> >>>>>Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know >>>>>of >>>>>any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in >>>>>this >>>>>though. >>>> >>>>Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs >>>>required. >>> >>>you need the egg to hold mashed potato croquettes together. Maybe >>>it's possible to mix in enough bread crumbs to make the mashed >>>potatoes together. >> >>You can't cook either... that's why we've never seen anything you've >>claimed to have cooked... FRAUD! > > your memory fails you or you stubbornly refuse to look when I post > pictures. Nevertheless. Something is needed to hold the coquettes > together. I shudder to think what your mashed potatoes are like if > they hold together without a binder. I have made potato cakes with no binder. Have to make them small and thin and they're not very good. |
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On 1/3/2018 2:03 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:22:31 -0500, wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>> problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some >>> with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs >>> and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer have >>> the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I >>> think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all together. >>> >>> Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of >>> any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this >>> though. >> >> Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs >> required. > > you need the egg to hold mashed potato croquettes together. Maybe > it's possible to mix in enough bread crumbs to make the mashed > potatoes together. > Yes, I've always found an egg needed to be used as a binder when making mashed potato pancakes/croquettes. I'm not sure what Julie is going for when she says "croquettes". Something with tomato sauce on top. When I think about croquettes it's usually made with chicken. In the 1950's. LOL Jill Jill |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 1/3/2018 2:03 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:22:31 -0500, wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>>> problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make >>>> some >>>> with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread >>>> crumbs >>>> and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer >>>> have >>>> the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but >>>> I >>>> think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all >>>> together. >>>> >>>> Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know >>>> of >>>> any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in >>>> this >>>> though. >>> >>> Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs >>> required. >> >> you need the egg to hold mashed potato croquettes together. Maybe >> it's possible to mix in enough bread crumbs to make the mashed >> potatoes together. >> > Yes, I've always found an egg needed to be used as a binder when making > mashed potato pancakes/croquettes. > > I'm not sure what Julie is going for when she says "croquettes". Something > with tomato sauce on top. When I think about croquettes it's usually made > with chicken. In the 1950's. LOL Exactly. |
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On 1/4/2018 12:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Watch it, there. I made Ham Croquettes for New Years Eve. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Omelet wrote: > >> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him... > > He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with > I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty > trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to > deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their > meds. For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the total blue. After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3 years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY MOVING IN WITH YOU? That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2 years. Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're manic depressive mixed with habitual liar. Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On 1/4/2018 12:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Now I can cross them > off. > > -sw 508 Kingfisher Creek Dr, Austin, TX https://www.redfin.com/TX/Austin/508.../home/31838188 https://www.arivify.com/property/search/NN7zGlJHG Owner Name Wertz Patricia L Address 508 Kingfisher Creek Dr City Austin State TX Zip Code 78748 Legal Description Lot 35 Blk Z Texas Oaks 10 |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >>Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some >>with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs >>and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer >>have >>the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I >>think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all >>together. >> >>Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of >>any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this >>though. > > Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs > required. Don't think I've ever had a potato croquette. How do you make them? |
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 13:56:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > > wrote in message .. . >> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>>Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>>problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some >>>with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs >>>and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer >>>have >>>the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I >>>think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all >>>together. >>> >>>Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of >>>any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this >>>though. >> >> Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs >> required. > >Don't think I've ever had a potato croquette. How do you make them? I use maybe cups of leftover, cold mashed potatoes that have been make with milk and butter, minced or grated onion, 1 egg, some bread crumbs to consistency to hold shape. Scoop some potato mixture and form into a ball, drop into hot grease, butter or oil of your choice. Medium heat. Fry on one side until brown and crispy. Turn the ball partially over so that you have one flat browned side, one totally uncooked side plus the side that you have just turned over. Brown that side then turn again so that you have 3 browned sides. Generally, the recipes on the 'Net are fairly similar. Tasty. My husband always looks forward to them. Janet US |
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![]() "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 13:56:55 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> > wrote in message . .. >>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>>>problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make >>>>some >>>>with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread >>>>crumbs >>>>and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer >>>>have >>>>the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but >>>>I >>>>think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all >>>>together. >>>> >>>>Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know >>>>of >>>>any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this >>>>though. >>> >>> Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs >>> required. >> >>Don't think I've ever had a potato croquette. How do you make them? > > I use maybe cups of leftover, cold mashed potatoes that have been > make with milk and butter, minced or grated onion, 1 egg, some bread > crumbs to consistency to hold shape. Scoop some potato mixture and > form into a ball, drop into hot grease, butter or oil of your choice. > Medium heat. Fry on one side until brown and crispy. Turn the ball > partially over so that you have one flat browned side, one totally > uncooked side plus the side that you have just turned over. Brown > that side then turn again so that you have 3 browned sides. Generally, > the recipes on the 'Net are fairly similar. Tasty. My husband always > looks forward to them. > Janet US That's not what I'm looking for but thanks. |
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![]() "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 22:46:37 -0800, Julie Bove wrote: > >> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>>Don't think I've ever had a potato croquette. How do you make them? >>> >>> I use maybe cups of leftover, cold mashed potatoes that have been >>> make with milk and butter, minced or grated onion, 1 egg, some bread >>> crumbs to consistency to hold shape. Scoop some potato mixture and >>> form into a ball, drop into hot grease, butter or oil of your choice. >>> Medium heat. Fry on one side until brown and crispy. Turn the ball >>> partially over so that you have one flat browned side, one totally >>> uncooked side plus the side that you have just turned over. Brown >>> that side then turn again so that you have 3 browned sides. Generally, >>> the recipes on the 'Net are fairly similar. Tasty. My husband always >>> looks forward to them. >>> Janet US >> >> That's not what I'm looking for but thanks. > > Why did you ask how to make them if they weren't what you were looking > for? What kind of croquettes ARE you looking for? Or did you just > post the request so you can bait people into replying with suggestions > just so you can poo-poo them like you always do? > > Sheesh. > > -sw Um dur, Steve. I specifically said "no egg" and "baked". So... |
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On 1/4/2018 11:32 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Why did you ask how to make them if they weren't what you were looking > for? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Omelet wrote: > >> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him... > > He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with > I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty > trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to > deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their > meds. For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the total blue. After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3 years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY MOVING IN WITH YOU? That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2 years. Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're manic depressive mixed with habitual liar. Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On 1/3/2018 11:59 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Mashed potatoes will not hold their shape when frying --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Omelet wrote: > >> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him... > > He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with > I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty > trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to > deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their > meds. For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the total blue. After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3 years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY MOVING IN WITH YOU? That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2 years. Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're manic depressive mixed with habitual liar. Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:59:53 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:22:31 -0500, wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>>Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>>problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some >>>with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs >>>and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer have >>>the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I >>>think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all together. >>> >>>Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of >>>any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this >>>though. >> >> Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs >> required. > >Mashed potatoes will not hold their shape when frying unless you use >eggs. they will turn into ... well... mashed potatoes. > >-sw That's because the dwarf can't cook.... all the dwarf does is open jars of store bought condiments and calls that cooking. |
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On 1/3/2018 10:44 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You need a new schtick. Get it someplace other than Walmart > this time. > > -sw --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Omelet wrote: > >> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him... > > He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with > I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty > trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to > deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their > meds. For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the total blue. After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3 years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY MOVING IN WITH YOU? That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2 years. Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're manic depressive mixed with habitual liar. Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On 1/3/2018 10:44 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You need a new schtick. 508 Kingfisher Creek Dr, Austin, TX https://www.redfin.com/TX/Austin/508.../home/31838188 https://www.arivify.com/property/search/NN7zGlJHG Owner Name Wertz Patricia L Address 508 Kingfisher Creek Dr City Austin State TX Zip Code 78748 Legal Description Lot 35 Blk Z Texas Oaks 10 |
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On 1/3/2018 11:59 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> well... mashed potatoes. > > -sw 508 Kingfisher Creek Dr, Austin, TX https://www.redfin.com/TX/Austin/508.../home/31838188 https://www.arivify.com/property/search/NN7zGlJHG Owner Name Wertz Patricia L Address 508 Kingfisher Creek Dr City Austin State TX Zip Code 78748 Legal Description Lot 35 Blk Z Texas Oaks 10 |
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On 1/3/2018 1:59 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:22:31 -0500, wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 00:09:20 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The >>> problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some >>> with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs >>> and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer have >>> the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I >>> think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all together. >>> >> >> Latkes don't need eggs. Mashed spuds make good croquettes, no eggs >> required. > > Mashed potatoes will not hold their shape when frying unless you use > eggs. they will turn into ... well... mashed potatoes. > > -sw > This is a toss-up. Latkes? I wouldn't call call them croquettes. If anything they're fried hash browns shaped like little pancakes. But since this subject drifted from some kind of croquettes to latkes, then mashed spuds... I made mashed potato pancakes yesterday. Using leftover mashed potatoes. Definitely needed an egg added for the binder. Jill |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 13:04:28 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
> >On 9-Jan-2018, wrote: > >> Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 10:28:00 UTC+1 schrieb dsi1: >> > On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 10:37:06 PM UTC-10, sanne >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > Tongue, cheek, even the whole heads, feet with claws, tails >> > > - waste from >> > > any slaughterhouse in former times. Poor people's >> > > (sometimes only) source >> > > of meat. >> > > Look at all the nowadays high-priced specialties - lots of >> > > work/time >> > > necessary to make them edible. >> > > >> > > Bye, Sanne. >> > >> > Eating oxtail would seem to be an European or a Chinese thing >> > but it >> > hardly seems American. >> >> Given the history of the immigrants and the slaughterhouses >> everywhere in >> the USA, New York especially ("Give me your poor...")? >> I'm talking about the 19th/early 20th century regarding and >> introducing >> the oxtail to American cuisine. >> Who would have thought that raw fish would be a thing in the >> USA? >I don't understand why anyone would think it odd to eat oxtails >in the US, unless they are being literal and don't know that >oxtail is from a cow, not an actual ox. We were, not so long >ago, a country with lots of small farms and folks living in rural >areas. As a child in 1950s rural US, my paternal grandparents >were farmers. When an animal was slaughtered, nothing was >wasted. If it was slaughtered for sale, the best parts were sold >and that that didn't sell was eaten on the farm. Beef tongue, >oxtail (cow tail), hog jowl, maw, chit'lins and snoot, etc. were >all made into tasty, nourishing food. And, set food preferences >for at least a generation; now, I seek out smoked hog jowl and >pay nearly as much for it as bacon. Many of the soul food and >southern dishes are made from what couldn't be sold, or sold very >cheap. I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and expensive ![]() |
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Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 14:44:49 UTC+1 schrieb Gary:
> wrote: > > > > I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to > > have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we > > came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you > > some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and > > expensive ![]() > > Remember the very inexpensive packages of chicken backs? Never > see them anymore either. Nor beef bones for stock. Ask for them at the butcher's of your least mistrust. Bye, Sanne. |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 05:58:45 -0800 (PST), sanne
> wrote: >Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 14:44:49 UTC+1 schrieb Gary: >> wrote: >> > >> > I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >> > have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >> > came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >> > some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >> > expensive ![]() >> >> Remember the very inexpensive packages of chicken backs? Never >> see them anymore either. Nor beef bones for stock. > >Ask for them at the butcher's of your least mistrust. That means the cheapest one in his case. |
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On 2018-01-09 8:44 AM, Gary wrote:
> wrote: >> >> I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >> have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >> came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >> some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >> expensive ![]() > > Remember the very inexpensive packages of chicken backs? Never > see them anymore either. Nor beef bones for stock. > I see beef bones for stock, but there is a price on them. It doesn't seem that long ago that I got dog bones for free. |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> wrote: >> >> I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >> have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >> came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >> some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >> expensive ![]() > > Remember the very inexpensive packages of chicken backs? Never > see them anymore either. Nor beef bones for stock. ======= Look what happened to chicken wings and turkey parts, used to be dirt cheap, not anymore. Cheri |
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Cheri wrote:
> > "Gary" wrote: > > Remember the very inexpensive packages of chicken backs? Never > > see them anymore either. Nor beef bones for stock. > > ======= > > Look what happened to chicken wings and turkey parts, used to be dirt cheap, > not anymore. The chicken wing prices are just silly these days. For some reason, I only get the urge for them at Superbowl time. I guess since it's a traditional thing to eat at that time. Worst time ever too as they are so popular then, the price goes way up. Old story but this happened to me several years ago. Superbowl Sunday and I thought I'd make some chicken wings....until I saw the price...large packs of wings were $4.99/lb. Yeah right! That much and about half of the weight is bones/lost weight. I wasn't going to pay that and was disappointed that I wouldn't have the food as I was all set and looking forward to it. Then right in the very next section was a whole fryer chicken for only $0.88/lb. Hmmmmm, I thought. Well I bought a 2-3 lb whole chicken and cut it all up myself. I oven baked it. Once done, I treated all the large pieces just like chicken wings. Coated each piece with the mix of melted butter and Frank's Hot Sauce. And on the plate I had a dipping pile of "Marie's Blue Cheese Dressing." Well....turned out much better than using wings. Rather then nibbling on a chicken wing piece, how about chomping down on large bite of chicken thigh with all the same flavors. Oh yeah! I haven't bought wings since that day. No more Buffalo Wings for me.... I make "Buffalo Whole Chicken" now. Screw the scrawny wings. :-D |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 06:22:29 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"Gary" > wrote in message ... >> wrote: >>> >>> I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >>> have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >>> came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >>> some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >>> expensive ![]() >> >> Remember the very inexpensive packages of chicken backs? Never >> see them anymore either. Nor beef bones for stock. > >======= > >Look what happened to chicken wings and turkey parts, used to be dirt cheap, >not anymore. > >Cheri True enough, oxtails are cooking away now, cost me $24.95 for 4 medium ones. |
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On 1/9/2018 9:22 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message > ... >> wrote: >>> >>> I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >>> have some oxtail!** I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >>> came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >>> some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >>> expensive ![]() >> >> Remember the very inexpensive packages of chicken backs? Never >> see them anymore either. Nor beef bones for stock. > > ======= > > Look what happened to chicken wings and turkey parts, used to be dirt > cheap, not anymore. > > Cheri > > Indeed, have you tried Paula Deen's wings yet? https://tinyurl.com/y8v3v6yn |
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On 1/9/2018 6:44 AM, Gary wrote:
> wrote: >> >> I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >> have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >> came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >> some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >> expensive ![]() > > Remember the very inexpensive packages of chicken backs? Never > see them anymore either. Nor beef bones for stock. > Good call there, and gizzards only show up at Thanksgiving in many stores, livers too. Chicken backs are sublime! |
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:13:31 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 09:33:45 -0400, wrote: > > >snip >> >>I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >>have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >>came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >>some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >>expensive ![]() > >I have recipes from my mother that start with 'ask the butcher for a >nice soup bone.' >Janet US Lol, a lot of my grandmothers say 'Tell the butcher' but the one I liked best was from about 1920 and a recipe for chutney. Daring in those days it had garlic in it, her note at the end said "I always add much more garlic, the boys don't care too much for it so they don't take as much" - a consideration with eight sons. |
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 15:33:50 -0400, wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:13:31 -0700, U.S. Janet B. > >wrote: > >>On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 09:33:45 -0400, wrote: >> >> >>snip >>> >>>I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >>>have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >>>came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >>>some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >>>expensive ![]() >> >>I have recipes from my mother that start with 'ask the butcher for a >>nice soup bone.' >>Janet US > >Lol, a lot of my grandmothers say 'Tell the butcher' but the one I >liked best was from about 1920 and a recipe for chutney. Daring in >those days it had garlic in it, her note at the end said "I always add >much more garlic, the boys don't care too much for it so they don't >take as much" - a consideration with eight sons. My mother knew salt and pepper and onion, no garlic. I discovered so much after I left home ![]() Janet US |
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On 1/9/2018 12:13 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 09:33:45 -0400, wrote: > > > snip >> >> I am off to the grocery store presently and now I absolutely have to >> have some oxtail! I don't care if people in NA don't eat it, when we >> came here 50 years ago they didn't and the butcher would just give you >> some, same with nice marrow soup bones, now they are an item and >> expensive ![]() > > I have recipes from my mother that start with 'ask the butcher for a > nice soup bone.' > Janet US > Those old recipes are so much fun! I never got free soup bones. ![]() sure my mother and grandmother did. These days if you want soup bones you have to pay for them and they aren't cheap. There are restaurants in NYC that pretty much only sell bone broth. Rather than a hot cup of coffee or tea, people are buying cups of hot broth. What affect will this "trend" have on the price of soup bones? "Soup bones" already cost more than I want to pay for them. Better to buy a cut of beef *with* bones and save those for stock/broth. ![]() Jill |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:21:28 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
> >On 9-Jan-2018, wrote: > >> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:42:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy >> Hamilton wrote: >> > >> > Shows how little you know about "Americans". I've been >> > eating oxtail all >> > my life. I just pulled my husband's 1981 Betty Crocker >> > cookbook off the >> > shelf, and found the recipe for oxtail stew. If I still had >> > my 1960s-vintage >> > copy, I'm sure it would have the same recipe. >> > >> > Cindy Hamilton >> >> As a matter of fact, I don't know that much about the people on >> the mainland. You probably don't know much about the people on >> this rock. >If TV portrayals over the years are accurate, they are >overweight, eat lots of poi with their fingers, roast pigs in a >hole in the ground, wear grass skirts and love to listen to Don >Ho and any steel guitar band. 8-) > >Probably about as accurate as what they think they know about us. > ;-) You forgot the main thing: they are speshial. Ho boy, are they speshial! |
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On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 10:09:38 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> Now I am Jonesing for croquettes after seeing that in the subject. The > problems? I need a recipe for baked ones with no egg. I used to make some > with hominy (perhaps grits?) and cheese. They were rolled in bread crumbs > and baked. I served them with tomato sauce on top. I think I no longer have > the cookbook that that the recipe was in though. It did contain egg but I > think if I put enough cheese in, it might be enough to bind it all together. > > Anyone have a recipe for some with no egg? And no, I don't really know of > any good egg substitutes. Most don't work. Flax seeds might work in this > though. My daughter made some mac and cheese in the slow cooker. I bagged the leftovers with the intention of making croquettes but she dumped it before I got around to it. I didn't want to use any eggs either. I suppose you could use an ice cream scoop to scoop out some mac and cheese on to parchment paper and smash it down, then sprinkle some bread crumbs on to and stick it in a hot oven for 15 minutes or so. I was going to deep fry mine but that never happened. That's the breaks. |
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