Is anyone else having this problem?

I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were upside
down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than the
other tomatoes.

Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.

Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were cheaper
but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until the
next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.

Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
news
> Is anyone else having this problem?
>
> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them
> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper
> than the other tomatoes.
>
> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>
> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were
> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them
> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are
> shriveled.
>
> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?

I don't know, I don't buy a lot of store tomatoes because they seem
tasteless, but they should last longer than that.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
news
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> news
>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>
>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed
>> them to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were
>> cheaper than the other tomatoes.
>>
>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went
>> to use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>
>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were
>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them
>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are
>> shriveled.
>>
>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>
> I don't know, I don't buy a lot of store tomatoes because they seem
> tasteless, but they should last longer than that.

You would think so. At least mine are not tasteless. I grew three kinds last
year. They tasted no different from what I got from the store. I finally got
some really good carrots though. Really sweet like the ones we got when I
was a kid.

On 1/22/2018 10:27 AM, l not -l wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>
>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>>> They were
>>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>>> tops showed them
>>> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>>> were cheaper
>>> than the other tomatoes.
>>>
>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>>> Next day went to
>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>
>>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>>> grape ones
>>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>>> they were
>>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>>> not use them
>>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>>> the rest are
>>> shriveled.
>>>
>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>
> Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
> delivered.
(snippage)

Oh, she bought the Kumatos in a store. But she bought the ones packaged
together on a tray covered in shrink wrap. You can't see the underside.
She bought them because they were cheaper. That tells me the store
wanted to sell them fast.

I buy tomatoes (any fruit or veg, really) that I can see, touch and
select myself.

It also depends on how she stores them. When I buy ripe tomatoes they
go straight into the refrigerator. Leaving them sitting on the kitchen
counter in what she describes as "humid" conditions sure won't help matters.

> Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
> moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
> flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
> don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
> edible.
>
Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
thread. Heh.

If I'd brought home a package of tomatoes that were rotten on the
underside I'd have taken them straight back to the store. Of course
there will be a reason she couldn't do that.

Jill
Jill

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
>bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
>thread. Heh.

Veering slightly off-topic..

I buy the little clamshell packages of grape tomatoes all the time,
and never manage to use them all before they start to go wrinkly. So I
use them for making my rough version of ratatouille. Cut the tomatoes
in half and put them in a baking dish with some diced zucchini,
peppers, onions, and maybe squash or sweet potato. Add a sprig of
thyme, a pinch of salt, and a glug of olive oil. Into the oven at 350
for about 40 minutes.

It's pretty good as a side dish, and it's also tasty in frittata or on
pizza.

Doris

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
>>bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
>>thread. Heh.
>
> Veering slightly off-topic..
>
> I buy the little clamshell packages of grape tomatoes all the time,
> and never manage to use them all before they start to go wrinkly. So I
> use them for making my rough version of ratatouille. Cut the tomatoes
> in half and put them in a baking dish with some diced zucchini,
> peppers, onions, and maybe squash or sweet potato. Add a sprig of
> thyme, a pinch of salt, and a glug of olive oil. Into the oven at 350
> for about 40 minutes.
>
> It's pretty good as a side dish, and it's also tasty in frittata or on
> pizza.
>
> Doris

We eat a lot of salad so I often buy the huge clamshells but these were the
small ones. I guess I should have suspected something when I saw other
customers looking but not buying. I passed up the large clamshells because
those clearly had some old ones in there. This container looked fine when I
got it.

I suspect that I ordered from PCC on a bad day. They subbed a yellow squash
for the zucchini that I wanted and those tomatoes for the cherry. This
didn't work for me as I wanted a colorful stir fry. I wound up going to
another store for the zucchini. It may well be that they were not out of the
items that I ordered but they were not fresh.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/22/2018 10:27 AM, l not -l wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>>
>>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>>>> They were
>>>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>>>> tops showed them
>>>> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>>>> were cheaper
>>>> than the other tomatoes.
>>>>
>>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>>>> Next day went to
>>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>>
>>>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>>>> grape ones
>>>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>>>> they were
>>>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>>>> not use them
>>>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>>>> the rest are
>>>> shriveled.
>>>>
>>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>>
>> Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
>> delivered.
>(snippage)
>
>Oh, she bought the Kumatos in a store. But she bought the ones packaged
>together on a tray covered in shrink wrap. You can't see the underside.
> She bought them because they were cheaper. That tells me the store
>wanted to sell them fast.
>
>I buy tomatoes (any fruit or veg, really) that I can see, touch and
>select myself.
>
>It also depends on how she stores them. When I buy ripe tomatoes they
>go straight into the refrigerator. Leaving them sitting on the kitchen
>counter in what she describes as "humid" conditions sure won't help matters.
>
>> Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
>> moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
>> flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
>> don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
>> edible.
>>
>Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
>bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
>thread. Heh.
>
>If I'd brought home a package of tomatoes that were rotten on the
>underside I'd have taken them straight back to the store. Of course
>there will be a reason she couldn't do that.
>
>Jill

I buy a 2 pound box of Campari tomatoes (about 20 tomatoes) from
Costco. The box costs $4.99. (plenty cheap) They come in a clear
plastic box. I can see all sides. The box has holes to combat
moisture buildup. I bring the tomatoes home and leave them on the
counter. It takes me about 2 weeks to use them all. During that time
they do not rot or mold. I never put tomatoes in the refrigerator. I
have absolutely no idea why/how she gets stuff to spoil in her house.
If true, there's something seriously wrong at her place.
Janet US

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 1/22/2018 10:27 AM, l not -l wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>>>>> They were
>>>>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>>>>> tops showed them
>>>>> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>>>>> were cheaper
>>>>> than the other tomatoes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>>>>> Next day went to
>>>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>>>>> grape ones
>>>>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>>>>> they were
>>>>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>>>>> not use them
>>>>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>>>>> the rest are
>>>>> shriveled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>>>
>>> Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
>>> delivered.
>>(snippage)
>>
>>Oh, she bought the Kumatos in a store. But she bought the ones packaged
>>together on a tray covered in shrink wrap. You can't see the underside.
>> She bought them because they were cheaper. That tells me the store
>>wanted to sell them fast.
>>
>>I buy tomatoes (any fruit or veg, really) that I can see, touch and
>>select myself.
>>
>>It also depends on how she stores them. When I buy ripe tomatoes they
>>go straight into the refrigerator. Leaving them sitting on the kitchen
>>counter in what she describes as "humid" conditions sure won't help
>>matters.
>>
>>> Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
>>> moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
>>> flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
>>> don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
>>> edible.
>>>
>>Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
>>bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
>>thread. Heh.
>>
>>If I'd brought home a package of tomatoes that were rotten on the
>>underside I'd have taken them straight back to the store. Of course
>>there will be a reason she couldn't do that.
>>
>>Jill
>
> I buy a 2 pound box of Campari tomatoes (about 20 tomatoes) from
> Costco. The box costs $4.99. (plenty cheap) They come in a clear
> plastic box. I can see all sides. The box has holes to combat
> moisture buildup. I bring the tomatoes home and leave them on the
> counter. It takes me about 2 weeks to use them all. During that time
> they do not rot or mold. I never put tomatoes in the refrigerator. I
> have absolutely no idea why/how she gets stuff to spoil in her house.
> If true, there's something seriously wrong at her place.
> Janet US

I buy those too. I never leave tomatoes out. No counter space for one thing
and they do rot quickly if left out. I did have some get wrinkly/soft before
I used them all but they were rather old when I bought them. They do come
with a date on them indicating when they were packaged.

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 11:28:28 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 1/22/2018 10:27 AM, l not -l wrote:
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> news > >>> Is anyone else having this problem?
> >>>
> >>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
> >>> They were
> >>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
> >>> tops showed them
> >>> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
> >>> were cheaper
> >>> than the other tomatoes.
> >>>
> >>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
> >>> Next day went to
> >>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
> >>>
> >>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
> >>> grape ones
> >>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
> >>> they were
> >>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
> >>> not use them
> >>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
> >>> the rest are
> >>> shriveled.
> >>>
> >>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
> >>
> > Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
> > delivered.
> (snippage)
>
> Oh, she bought the Kumatos in a store. But she bought the ones packaged
> together on a tray covered in shrink wrap. You can't see the underside.
> She bought them because they were cheaper. That tells me the store
> wanted to sell them fast.

Bingo! You beat me to it.

> I buy tomatoes (any fruit or veg, really) that I can see, touch and
> select myself.
>
> It also depends on how she stores them. When I buy ripe tomatoes they
> go straight into the refrigerator. Leaving them sitting on the kitchen
> counter in what she describes as "humid" conditions sure won't help matters.
>
> > Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
> > moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
> > flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
> > don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
> > edible.
> >
> Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
> bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
> thread. Heh.

If they get really shriveled, I'll finish the job by roasting them.
Makes a good ad hoc pasta sauce.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:50:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 11:28:28 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 1/22/2018 10:27 AM, l not -l wrote:
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>> >>>
>> >>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>> >>> They were
>> >>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>> >>> tops showed them
>> >>> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>> >>> were cheaper
>> >>> than the other tomatoes.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>> >>> Next day went to
>> >>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>> >>> grape ones
>> >>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>> >>> they were
>> >>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>> >>> not use them
>> >>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>> >>> the rest are
>> >>> shriveled.
>> >>>
>> >>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>> >>
>> > Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
>> > delivered.
>> (snippage)
>>
>> Oh, she bought the Kumatos in a store. But she bought the ones packaged
>> together on a tray covered in shrink wrap. You can't see the underside.
>> She bought them because they were cheaper. That tells me the store
>> wanted to sell them fast.
>
>Bingo! You beat me to it.
>
>> I buy tomatoes (any fruit or veg, really) that I can see, touch and
>> select myself.
>>
>> It also depends on how she stores them. When I buy ripe tomatoes they
>> go straight into the refrigerator. Leaving them sitting on the kitchen
>> counter in what she describes as "humid" conditions sure won't help matters.
>>
>> > Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
>> > moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
>> > flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
>> > don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
>> > edible.
>> >
>> Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
>> bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
>> thread. Heh.
>
>If they get really shriveled, I'll finish the job by roasting them.
>Makes a good ad hoc pasta sauce.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I never buy any stoopidmarket tomatoes, they are over priced and
tasteless. I grow more tomatoes each summer than ten familys can
eat... and those tiny ones are the easiest to grow... can pick a peck
daily.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/22/2018 10:27 AM, l not -l wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>>
>>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>>>> They were
>>>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>>>> tops showed them
>>>> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>>>> were cheaper
>>>> than the other tomatoes.
>>>>
>>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>>>> Next day went to
>>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>>
>>>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>>>> grape ones
>>>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>>>> they were
>>>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>>>> not use them
>>>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>>>> the rest are
>>>> shriveled.
>>>>
>>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>>
>> Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
>> delivered.
> (snippage)
>
> Oh, she bought the Kumatos in a store. But she bought the ones packaged
> together on a tray covered in shrink wrap. You can't see the underside.
> She bought them because they were cheaper. That tells me the store wanted
> to sell them fast.
>
> I buy tomatoes (any fruit or veg, really) that I can see, touch and select
> myself.
>
> It also depends on how she stores them. When I buy ripe tomatoes they go
> straight into the refrigerator. Leaving them sitting on the kitchen
> counter in what she describes as "humid" conditions sure won't help
> matters.
>
>> Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
>> moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
>> flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
>> don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
>> edible.
>>
> Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to bet
> she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food thread. Heh.
>
> If I'd brought home a package of tomatoes that were rotten on the
> underside I'd have taken them straight back to the store. Of course there
> will be a reason she couldn't do that.

So... You would drive about 15 miles each way to return $3 worth of
tomatoes? I wouldn't.

"l not -l" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > Is anyone else having this problem?
>> >
>> > I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>> > They were
>> > upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>> > tops showed them
>> > to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>> > were cheaper
>> > than the other tomatoes.
>> >
>> > Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>> > Next day went to
>> > use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>> >
>> > Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>> > grape ones
>> > instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>> > they were
>> > cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>> > not use them
>> > until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>> > the rest are
>> > shriveled.
>> >
>> > Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>
> Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
> delivered. The store would be anxious to get rid of the ones
> that had been sitting around too long and needed to go. Where
> better to dump them than with someone who couldn't be bothered to
> come to the store and select their own; therefore are highly
> unlikely to go to the trouble of returning them.
>
> Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
> moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
> flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
> don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
> edible.

I can't stand the texture of shriveled tomatoes. Might be okay cooked into
something but I was planning to eat them raw.

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 7:34:45 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> Is anyone else having this problem?
>
> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were upside
> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than the
> other tomatoes.
>
> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>
> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were cheaper
> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until the
> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>
> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?

My guess is that you have some strain of fungus growing in your kitchen. My guess is that it'll go away in a short while or it may linger for years. I had some fungus that attacked my cooked rice in my kitchen. That went on for years. It went away because for a time, I stopped cooking rice.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 7:34:45 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> Is anyone else having this problem?
>
> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
> upside
> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than
> the
> other tomatoes.
>
> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>
> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were
> cheaper
> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until the
> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>
> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?

My guess is that you have some strain of fungus growing in your kitchen. My
guess is that it'll go away in a short while or it may linger for years. I
had some fungus that attacked my cooked rice in my kitchen. That went on for
years. It went away because for a time, I stopped cooking rice.

---
The first bad tomatoes came to me that way. I just couldn't see the rotten
part when I bought them. Fred Meyer fungus? Ew.

We have had very rainy weather here and the humidity has been high. Could be
that I suppose.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 7:34:45 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> Is anyone else having this problem?
>
> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
> upside
> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than
> the
> other tomatoes.
>
> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>
> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were
> cheaper
> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until the
> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>
> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?

My guess is that you have some strain of fungus growing in your kitchen. My
guess is that it'll go away in a short while or it may linger for years. I
had some fungus that attacked my cooked rice in my kitchen. That went on for
years. It went away because for a time, I stopped cooking rice.

---
The first bad tomatoes came to me that way. I just couldn't see the rotten
part when I bought them. Fred Meyer fungus? Ew.

We have had very rainy weather here and the humidity has been high. Could be
that I suppose.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 7:34:45 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > Is anyone else having this problem?
> >
> > I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They
> > were upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops
> > showed them to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough
> > they were cheaper than the other tomatoes.
> >
> > Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day
> > went to use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
> >
> > Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape
> > ones instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they
> > were cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
> > not use them until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days
> > later, the rest are shriveled.
> >
> > Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>
> My guess is that you have some strain of fungus growing in your
> kitchen. My guess is that it'll go away in a short while or it may
> linger for years. I had some fungus that attacked my cooked rice in
> my kitchen. That went on for years. It went away because for a time,
> I stopped cooking rice.

I'm thnking something like that too is possible (at least for some of
it). Julie is in a fairly damp climate I gather. It's not like she
has mold climbing the walls or anything, but she may still have a
potential spore issue there.

I have a friend who can't get a good sourdough starter going. Seems it
always turns pink on him. He lives in a well forested area and his
backyard is pretty much natural mulch from leaves and mold. His case
is fairly radical but Julie may have something a little like it going
on. 'No see'um' spores or something?

On the other comments on it being the store selling lower quality items
to delivery customers, I don't buy into that one. They'd horrifically
lose all customers for that venue if so and all the ones *here*, all
you have to do if call and they comeback, replace, and it's *free* then.

That all said, I have one store near me that I won't get any fresh
foods from. I believe it is at least partly a local manager issue.
The super WalMart nearest me. It used to be good but then they dummied
down what the manager could do to ensure best produce and he quit.
Since then, I've had so many things mold the next day, I stopped using
them at all. No other stores have that issue so it's not something
environmental to my place.

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 10:42:17 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> I'm thnking something like that too is possible (at least for some of
> it). Julie is in a fairly damp climate I gather. It's not like she
> has mold climbing the walls or anything, but she may still have a
> potential spore issue there.
>
> I have a friend who can't get a good sourdough starter going. Seems it
> always turns pink on him. He lives in a well forested area and his
> backyard is pretty much natural mulch from leaves and mold. His case
> is fairly radical but Julie may have something a little like it going
> on. 'No see'um' spores or something?
>
> On the other comments on it being the store selling lower quality items
> to delivery customers, I don't buy into that one. They'd horrifically
> lose all customers for that venue if so and all the ones *here*, all
> you have to do if call and they comeback, replace, and it's *free* then.
>
> That all said, I have one store near me that I won't get any fresh
> foods from. I believe it is at least partly a local manager issue.
> The super WalMart nearest me. It used to be good but then they dummied
> down what the manager could do to ensure best produce and he quit.
> Since then, I've had so many things mold the next day, I stopped using
> them at all. No other stores have that issue so it's not something
> environmental to my place.

I think that some of these invisible infestations can be highly localized. In one house but not the other. It might also be that some stores will have this problem and some won't. My guess is that it's tough to rid a place of some spores once they're established.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 10:42:17 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> I'm thnking something like that too is possible (at least for some of
> it). Julie is in a fairly damp climate I gather. It's not like she
> has mold climbing the walls or anything, but she may still have a
> potential spore issue there.
>
> I have a friend who can't get a good sourdough starter going. Seems it
> always turns pink on him. He lives in a well forested area and his
> backyard is pretty much natural mulch from leaves and mold. His case
> is fairly radical but Julie may have something a little like it going
> on. 'No see'um' spores or something?
>
> On the other comments on it being the store selling lower quality items
> to delivery customers, I don't buy into that one. They'd horrifically
> lose all customers for that venue if so and all the ones *here*, all
> you have to do if call and they comeback, replace, and it's *free* then.
>
> That all said, I have one store near me that I won't get any fresh
> foods from. I believe it is at least partly a local manager issue.
> The super WalMart nearest me. It used to be good but then they dummied
> down what the manager could do to ensure best produce and he quit.
> Since then, I've had so many things mold the next day, I stopped using
> them at all. No other stores have that issue so it's not something
> environmental to my place.

I think that some of these invisible infestations can be highly localized.
In one house but not the other. It might also be that some stores will have
this problem and some won't. My guess is that it's tough to rid a place of
some spores once they're established.

---

But if that were the case, then wouldn't the other foods in my fridge door
go moldy too? And they didn't.

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 8:38:26 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> But if that were the case, then wouldn't the other foods in my fridge door
> go moldy too? And they didn't.

I don't know. The microorganism that attacked my rice didn't affect anything else.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 7:34:45 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > Is anyone else having this problem?
>> >
>> > I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They
>> > were upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops
>> > showed them to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough
>> > they were cheaper than the other tomatoes.
>> >
>> > Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day
>> > went to use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>> >
>> > Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape
>> > ones instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they
>> > were cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>> > not use them until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days
>> > later, the rest are shriveled.
>> >
>> > Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>
>> My guess is that you have some strain of fungus growing in your
>> kitchen. My guess is that it'll go away in a short while or it may
>> linger for years. I had some fungus that attacked my cooked rice in
>> my kitchen. That went on for years. It went away because for a time,
>> I stopped cooking rice.
>
> I'm thnking something like that too is possible (at least for some of
> it). Julie is in a fairly damp climate I gather. It's not like she
> has mold climbing the walls or anything, but she may still have a
> potential spore issue there.
>
> I have a friend who can't get a good sourdough starter going. Seems it
> always turns pink on him. He lives in a well forested area and his
> backyard is pretty much natural mulch from leaves and mold. His case
> is fairly radical but Julie may have something a little like it going
> on. 'No see'um' spores or something?
>
> On the other comments on it being the store selling lower quality items
> to delivery customers, I don't buy into that one. They'd horrifically
> lose all customers for that venue if so and all the ones *here*, all
> you have to do if call and they comeback, replace, and it's *free* then.
>
> That all said, I have one store near me that I won't get any fresh
> foods from. I believe it is at least partly a local manager issue.
> The super WalMart nearest me. It used to be good but then they dummied
> down what the manager could do to ensure best produce and he quit.
> Since then, I've had so many things mold the next day, I stopped using
> them at all. No other stores have that issue so it's not something
> environmental to my place.

There are some stores here where I will not buy meat or produce unless it is
some branded/prepackaged item. Trader Joes is an exception. I will buy
neither from them. Too many meat recalls for my liking and the produce I've
bought in the past is almost always bad.

In article >, says...
>
> Is anyone else having this problem?
>
> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were upside
> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than the
> other tomatoes.
>
> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>
> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were cheaper
> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until the
> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>
> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?

There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
storage.

Janet UK

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>
>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were upside
>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than the
>> other tomatoes.
>>
>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>
>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were cheaper
>> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until the
>> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>>
>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>
> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>storage.
>
> Janet UK

thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
complained about molding but , . . .

On 2018-01-22 10:22 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>> storage.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
> complained about molding but , . . .


I was wondering if she had bought the tomatoes at the same store where
the birds were always getting into the bread. I don't know if that is
the one where the crazy janitor wearing a turban chased her with his broom.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
news
> On 2018-01-22 10:22 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>>> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>>> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>>> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>>> storage.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
>> complained about molding but , . . .
>
>
> I was wondering if she had bought the tomatoes at the same store where the
> birds were always getting into the bread. I don't know if that is the one
> where the crazy janitor wearing a turban chased her with his broom.

The birds were at the Woodinville Costco. I have not been there in some
time. The turban broomer was at the Lynnwood Walmart. I haven't been there
for a long time either but neither has he.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The turban broomer was at the Lynnwood Walmart. I haven't been there
> for a long time either but neither has he.

And how would you know that?

On 1/22/2018 10:22 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>
>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were upside
>>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
>>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than the
>>> other tomatoes.
>>>
>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>
(snip)>>>
>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>
>> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>> storage.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
> complained about molding but , . . .
>
I cringe at the mere thought. I don't have those problems. Then again,
I don't buy fruit or vegetables that are sold on a tray in shrink wrap
so that I can't see what the underside looks like.

If I'd gotten home with a package of tomatoes wrapped thusly and found
they were rotton or mushy or moldy on the side I couldn't see, I'd have
immediately taken them back to the store. At the very least I'd call
them on the phone to complain. Bitching about bad tomatoes here won't
fix her problem.

Jill

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 8:46:59 AM UTC-7, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 1/22/2018 10:22 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >, says...
> >>>
> >>> Is anyone else having this problem?
> >>>
> >>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were upside
> >>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
> >>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than the
> >>> other tomatoes.
> >>>
> >>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went to
> >>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
> >>>
> (snip)>>>
> >>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
> >>
> >> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
> >> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
> >> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
> >> storage.
> >>
> >> Janet UK
> >
> > thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
> > complained about molding but , . . .
> >
> I cringe at the mere thought. I don't have those problems. Then again,
> I don't buy fruit or vegetables that are sold on a tray in shrink wrap
> so that I can't see what the underside looks like.
>
> If I'd gotten home with a package of tomatoes wrapped thusly and found
> they were rotton or mushy or moldy on the side I couldn't see, I'd have
> immediately taken them back to the store. At the very least I'd call
> them on the phone to complain. Bitching about bad tomatoes here won't
> fix her problem.
>
> Jill

After all of these years, you'd think she'd have buying down to a science.
Maybe it is time for new glasses and a new smeller.

On 1/22/2018 11:15 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 8:46:59 AM UTC-7, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> If I'd gotten home with a package of tomatoes wrapped thusly and found
>> they were rotton or mushy or moldy on the side I couldn't see, I'd have
>> immediately taken them back to the store. At the very least I'd call
>> them on the phone to complain. Bitching about bad tomatoes here won't
>> fix her problem.
>>
>> Jill
>
> After all of these years, you'd think she'd have buying down to a science.

Buying, yes. Shopping wisely, doubtful.

Jill

> Maybe it is time for new glasses and a new smeller.
>

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/22/2018 10:22 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>>
>>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
>>>> upside
>>>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to
>>>> be
>>>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than
>>>> the
>>>> other tomatoes.
>>>>
>>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went
>>>> to
>>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>>
> (snip)>>>
>>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>>
>>> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>>> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>>> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>>> storage.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
>> complained about molding but , . . .
>>
> I cringe at the mere thought. I don't have those problems. Then again, I
> don't buy fruit or vegetables that are sold on a tray in shrink wrap so
> that I can't see what the underside looks like.
>
> If I'd gotten home with a package of tomatoes wrapped thusly and found
> they were rotton or mushy or moldy on the side I couldn't see, I'd have
> immediately taken them back to the store. At the very least I'd call them
> on the phone to complain. Bitching about bad tomatoes here won't fix her
> problem.

I didn't bother taking them back because the store is nowhere near here. I
take some friends shopping about once a week and it was a store near where
they live. I also wouldn't say that I was bitching or complaining. Merely
stating a fact. They seemed to go bad quickly.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>>In article >, says...
>>>
>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>
>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
>>> upside
>>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to
>>> be
>>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than
>>> the
>>> other tomatoes.
>>>
>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went
>>> to
>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>
>>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
>>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were
>>> cheaper
>>> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until
>>> the
>>> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>>>
>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>
>> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>>kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>>wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>>storage.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
> complained about molding but , . . .

Oh really? You go right ahead then. Years ago it was Pita bread. That stuff
was getting moldy in the store. I will no longer buy it. And some bread that
I bought with no preservatives in it went moldy soon. And more recently some
lemons from PCC. This is also where the last tomatoes came from. It's not my
local one but the Kirkland one that delivers. What else went moldy? Aside
from really old stuff like some salsa years ago, I can't think of any.

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, says...
>>
>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>
>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
>> upside
>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than
>> the
>> other tomatoes.
>>
>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went
>> to
>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>
>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were
>> cheaper
>> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until
>> the
>> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>>
>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>
> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
> storage.

If that were true, then other stuff would be rotting. It's not.

On 1/21/2018 10:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?

I blame it on Lil Kim...or Trump...or both...

%-0

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 21:34:36 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>
> <yawn>

I'm sorry Steve. I just finished dancing to a rousing song. Sorry, no
camera.You'll have to take my word for it. It was awesome!

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 10:08:34 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> I'm sorry Steve. I just finished dancing to a rousing song. Sorry, no
> camera.You'll have to take my word for it. It was awesome!

Wait a minute. Was it by this group? I thought so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMDa...uyAsnw&index=3

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 10:08:34 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I'm sorry Steve. I just finished dancing to a rousing song. Sorry, no
>> camera.You'll have to take my word for it. It was awesome!
>
> Wait a minute. Was it by this group? I thought so...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMDa...uyAsnw&index=3

Sorry, no. Was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Sorry, no. Was this:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8

Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those other guys.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Sorry, no. Was this:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8

Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those other
guys.

==

That drummer looked a bit out of place)

On 1/22/2018 3:12 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>
> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those other guys.
>


Oh man, classic Cheap Trick - love that uber-quirky 8 string
semi-acoustic bass too!

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>
> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those
> other guys.

Bun E. Carlos is a killer drummer. And the other two? Talented and oh so
cute!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 10:08:34 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> I'm sorry Steve. I just finished dancing to a rousing song. Sorry, no
> camera.You'll have to take my word for it. It was awesome!

Wait a minute. Was it by this group? I thought so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMDa...uyAsnw&index=3

==

Wow, loved it