On 1/22/2018 12:00 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cheri"* wrote in message news >
> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 1/22/2018 6:58 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>>>>
>>>> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about
>>>> those other guys.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>
>>> I like this better. ;-)
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh yeah...
>>
>> Now that's where it all came from!
>
>
>
> I've always found it hard to sit still when this song plays, even to this
> day.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sys9LCUo-AU
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> I can't see that because it has been blocked, but I know exactly what
> you mean)
>
>

Dire Straits - The Walk of Life...

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 10:42:17 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> I'm thnking something like that too is possible (at least for some of
> it). Julie is in a fairly damp climate I gather. It's not like she
> has mold climbing the walls or anything, but she may still have a
> potential spore issue there.
>
> I have a friend who can't get a good sourdough starter going. Seems it
> always turns pink on him. He lives in a well forested area and his
> backyard is pretty much natural mulch from leaves and mold. His case
> is fairly radical but Julie may have something a little like it going
> on. 'No see'um' spores or something?
>
> On the other comments on it being the store selling lower quality items
> to delivery customers, I don't buy into that one. They'd horrifically
> lose all customers for that venue if so and all the ones *here*, all
> you have to do if call and they comeback, replace, and it's *free* then.
>
> That all said, I have one store near me that I won't get any fresh
> foods from. I believe it is at least partly a local manager issue.
> The super WalMart nearest me. It used to be good but then they dummied
> down what the manager could do to ensure best produce and he quit.
> Since then, I've had so many things mold the next day, I stopped using
> them at all. No other stores have that issue so it's not something
> environmental to my place.

I think that some of these invisible infestations can be highly localized. In one house but not the other. It might also be that some stores will have this problem and some won't. My guess is that it's tough to rid a place of some spores once they're established.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>
> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those
> other guys.

Bun E. Carlos is a killer drummer. And the other two? Talented and oh so
cute!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
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>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>
> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those
> other guys.
>
> ==
>
> That drummer looked a bit out of place)

He does, doesn't he? They have a different drummer now. Bun E. is getting
along in age.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>>
>> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those
>> other guys.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>
> I like this better. ;-)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU
>
> Cheri

OMG! Barney Fife and Lurch!

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 1/22/2018 6:58 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dsi1" wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>>>>
>>>> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those
>>>> other guys.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>
>>> I like this better. ;-)
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh yeah...
>>
>> Now that's where it all came from!
>
>
>
> I've always found it hard to sit still when this song plays, even to this
> day.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sys9LCUo-AU
>
> Cheri

This one for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag

"casa de los sueños" > wrote in message
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> On 1/22/2018 12:23 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 1/22/2018 6:58 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those
>>>>> other guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>>
>>>> I like this better. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh yeah...
>>>
>>> Now that's where it all came from!
>>
>>
>>
>> I've always found it hard to sit still when this song plays, even to this
>> day.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sys9LCUo-AU
>>
>> Cheri
> >
> Indeed, I find that true for this one too:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJzp4ljVDi0

OMG! But that did remind me to put my laundry in the dryer.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
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>> On 1/22/2018 10:23 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On 1/22/2018 6:58 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those
>>>>>> other guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>>>
>>>>> I like this better. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh yeah...
>>>>
>>>> Now that's where it all came from!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've always found it hard to sit still when this song plays, even to
>>> this day.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sys9LCUo-AU
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> A classic and also:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRTQceLvsA
>
> That's a good one too.

Don't think I've heard that one. But this one is good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pa9x9fZBtY

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 1:19:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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>> ==
>>
>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>
> He's inexplicably named Bun E. Carlos. Two pretty boy rock stars and two
> goofy out-of-place looking guys? It's more perfect than most.

That's what makes them so fun to watch!

"esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
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> On 1/22/2018 8:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 1:19:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>
>> He's inexplicably named Bun E. Carlos. Two pretty boy rock stars and two
>> goofy out-of-place looking guys? It's more perfect than most.
>>
>
>
> A supernatural tip of the sticks to:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZNL7QVJjE

I loves me some Motown.

"Janet" > wrote in message
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> In article >, says...
>>
>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>
>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
>> upside
>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to be
>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than
>> the
>> other tomatoes.
>>
>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went
>> to
>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>
>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were
>> cheaper
>> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until
>> the
>> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>>
>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>
> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
> storage.

If that were true, then other stuff would be rotting. It's not.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>>In article >, says...
>>>
>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>
>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
>>> upside
>>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to
>>> be
>>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than
>>> the
>>> other tomatoes.
>>>
>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went
>>> to
>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>
>>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape ones
>>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they were
>>> cheaper
>>> but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did not use them until
>>> the
>>> next day. One was shriveled. But two days later, the rest are shriveled.
>>>
>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>
>> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>>kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>>wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>>storage.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
> complained about molding but , . . .

Oh really? You go right ahead then. Years ago it was Pita bread. That stuff
was getting moldy in the store. I will no longer buy it. And some bread that
I bought with no preservatives in it went moldy soon. And more recently some
lemons from PCC. This is also where the last tomatoes came from. It's not my
local one but the Kirkland one that delivers. What else went moldy? Aside
from really old stuff like some salsa years ago, I can't think of any.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> On 2018-01-22 10:22 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>>> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>>> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>>> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>>> storage.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
>> complained about molding but , . . .
>
>
> I was wondering if she had bought the tomatoes at the same store where the
> birds were always getting into the bread. I don't know if that is the one
> where the crazy janitor wearing a turban chased her with his broom.

The birds were at the Woodinville Costco. I have not been there in some
time. The turban broomer was at the Lynnwood Walmart. I haven't been there
for a long time either but neither has he.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 1/22/2018 10:22 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:50:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>>
>>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They were
>>>> upside
>>>> down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops showed them to
>>>> be
>>>> rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they were cheaper than
>>>> the
>>>> other tomatoes.
>>>>
>>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day went
>>>> to
>>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>>
> (snip)>>>
>>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>>
>>> There must be a very high load of mould spores in the air in your
>>> kitchen, and it won't be doing your own health any good.Something is
>>> wrong with your kitchen ventilation, hygeine, food-handling or food
>>> storage.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> thank you Janet. I was going to list all the food items that she has
>> complained about molding but , . . .
>>
> I cringe at the mere thought. I don't have those problems. Then again, I
> don't buy fruit or vegetables that are sold on a tray in shrink wrap so
> that I can't see what the underside looks like.
>
> If I'd gotten home with a package of tomatoes wrapped thusly and found
> they were rotton or mushy or moldy on the side I couldn't see, I'd have
> immediately taken them back to the store. At the very least I'd call them
> on the phone to complain. Bitching about bad tomatoes here won't fix her
> problem.

I didn't bother taking them back because the store is nowhere near here. I
take some friends shopping about once a week and it was a store near where
they live. I also wouldn't say that I was bitching or complaining. Merely
stating a fact. They seemed to go bad quickly.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 1/22/2018 11:15 AM, Roy wrote:
>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 8:46:59 AM UTC-7, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>
>>> If I'd gotten home with a package of tomatoes wrapped thusly and found
>>> they were rotton or mushy or moldy on the side I couldn't see, I'd have
>>> immediately taken them back to the store. At the very least I'd call
>>> them on the phone to complain. Bitching about bad tomatoes here won't
>>> fix her problem.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> After all of these years, you'd think she'd have buying down to a
>> science.
>
> Buying, yes. Shopping wisely, doubtful.

At least I know more ways to cook veggies than steaming!

"l not -l" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > Is anyone else having this problem?
>> >
>> > I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>> > They were
>> > upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>> > tops showed them
>> > to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>> > were cheaper
>> > than the other tomatoes.
>> >
>> > Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>> > Next day went to
>> > use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>> >
>> > Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>> > grape ones
>> > instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>> > they were
>> > cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>> > not use them
>> > until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>> > the rest are
>> > shriveled.
>> >
>> > Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>
> Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
> delivered. The store would be anxious to get rid of the ones
> that had been sitting around too long and needed to go. Where
> better to dump them than with someone who couldn't be bothered to
> come to the store and select their own; therefore are highly
> unlikely to go to the trouble of returning them.
>
> Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
> moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
> flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
> don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
> edible.

I can't stand the texture of shriveled tomatoes. Might be okay cooked into
something but I was planning to eat them raw.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 1/22/2018 10:27 AM, l not -l wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>>
>>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>>>> They were
>>>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>>>> tops showed them
>>>> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>>>> were cheaper
>>>> than the other tomatoes.
>>>>
>>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>>>> Next day went to
>>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>>
>>>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>>>> grape ones
>>>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>>>> they were
>>>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>>>> not use them
>>>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>>>> the rest are
>>>> shriveled.
>>>>
>>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>>
>> Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
>> delivered.
> (snippage)
>
> Oh, she bought the Kumatos in a store. But she bought the ones packaged
> together on a tray covered in shrink wrap. You can't see the underside.
> She bought them because they were cheaper. That tells me the store wanted
> to sell them fast.
>
> I buy tomatoes (any fruit or veg, really) that I can see, touch and select
> myself.
>
> It also depends on how she stores them. When I buy ripe tomatoes they go
> straight into the refrigerator. Leaving them sitting on the kitchen
> counter in what she describes as "humid" conditions sure won't help
> matters.
>
>> Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
>> moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
>> flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
>> don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
>> edible.
>>
> Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to bet
> she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food thread. Heh.
>
> If I'd brought home a package of tomatoes that were rotten on the
> underside I'd have taken them straight back to the store. Of course there
> will be a reason she couldn't do that.

So... You would drive about 15 miles each way to return $3 worth of
tomatoes? I wouldn't.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
>>bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
>>thread. Heh.
>
> Veering slightly off-topic..
>
> I buy the little clamshell packages of grape tomatoes all the time,
> and never manage to use them all before they start to go wrinkly. So I
> use them for making my rough version of ratatouille. Cut the tomatoes
> in half and put them in a baking dish with some diced zucchini,
> peppers, onions, and maybe squash or sweet potato. Add a sprig of
> thyme, a pinch of salt, and a glug of olive oil. Into the oven at 350
> for about 40 minutes.
>
> It's pretty good as a side dish, and it's also tasty in frittata or on
> pizza.
>
> Doris

We eat a lot of salad so I often buy the huge clamshells but these were the
small ones. I guess I should have suspected something when I saw other
customers looking but not buying. I passed up the large clamshells because
those clearly had some old ones in there. This container looked fine when I
got it.

I suspect that I ordered from PCC on a bad day. They subbed a yellow squash
for the zucchini that I wanted and those tomatoes for the cherry. This
didn't work for me as I wanted a colorful stir fry. I wound up going to
another store for the zucchini. It may well be that they were not out of the
items that I ordered but they were not fresh.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 1/22/2018 10:27 AM, l not -l wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought.
>>>>> They were
>>>>> upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the
>>>>> tops showed them
>>>>> to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough they
>>>>> were cheaper
>>>>> than the other tomatoes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half.
>>>>> Next day went to
>>>>> use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny
>>>>> grape ones
>>>>> instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry
>>>>> they were
>>>>> cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>>>>> not use them
>>>>> until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days later,
>>>>> the rest are
>>>>> shriveled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>>>
>>> Because you let the store pick which ones, then had them
>>> delivered.
>>(snippage)
>>
>>Oh, she bought the Kumatos in a store. But she bought the ones packaged
>>together on a tray covered in shrink wrap. You can't see the underside.
>> She bought them because they were cheaper. That tells me the store
>>wanted to sell them fast.
>>
>>I buy tomatoes (any fruit or veg, really) that I can see, touch and
>>select myself.
>>
>>It also depends on how she stores them. When I buy ripe tomatoes they
>>go straight into the refrigerator. Leaving them sitting on the kitchen
>>counter in what she describes as "humid" conditions sure won't help
>>matters.
>>
>>> Shriveled tomatoes are not rotten; they have simply lost
>>> moisture. The loss of moisture also means a concentration of
>>> flavor to some degree. If they have mold (black, white or green)
>>> don't eat them. If they are simply shriveled/wrinkled, they are
>>> edible.
>>>
>>Agreed, shriveled/soft tomatoes are perfectly viable. Whatcha want to
>>bet she tossed them? This sort of harks back to the wasting food
>>thread. Heh.
>>
>>If I'd brought home a package of tomatoes that were rotten on the
>>underside I'd have taken them straight back to the store. Of course
>>there will be a reason she couldn't do that.
>>
>>Jill
>
> I buy a 2 pound box of Campari tomatoes (about 20 tomatoes) from
> Costco. The box costs $4.99. (plenty cheap) They come in a clear
> plastic box. I can see all sides. The box has holes to combat
> moisture buildup. I bring the tomatoes home and leave them on the
> counter. It takes me about 2 weeks to use them all. During that time
> they do not rot or mold. I never put tomatoes in the refrigerator. I
> have absolutely no idea why/how she gets stuff to spoil in her house.
> If true, there's something seriously wrong at her place.
> Janet US

I buy those too. I never leave tomatoes out. No counter space for one thing
and they do rot quickly if left out. I did have some get wrinkly/soft before
I used them all but they were rather old when I bought them. They do come
with a date on them indicating when they were packaged.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
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> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 7:34:45 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > Is anyone else having this problem?
>> >
>> > I posted a few weeks back about the Kumatos that I bought. They
>> > were upside down in a package. The bottoms looked fine but the tops
>> > showed them to be rotten. I only bought those because oddly enough
>> > they were cheaper than the other tomatoes.
>> >
>> > Then I bought grape tomatoes at another store. Used half. Next day
>> > went to use the other half and they had black mold spots on them.
>> >
>> > Ordered cherry tomatoes to be delivered from PCC. Got tiny grape
>> > ones instead. A substitute I guess. I had gone with the cherry they
>> > were cheaper but they did not charge me more for what I got. Did
>> > not use them until the next day. One was shriveled. But two days
>> > later, the rest are shriveled.
>> >
>> > Why are the tomatoes rotting so quickly?
>>
>> My guess is that you have some strain of fungus growing in your
>> kitchen. My guess is that it'll go away in a short while or it may
>> linger for years. I had some fungus that attacked my cooked rice in
>> my kitchen. That went on for years. It went away because for a time,
>> I stopped cooking rice.
>
> I'm thnking something like that too is possible (at least for some of
> it). Julie is in a fairly damp climate I gather. It's not like she
> has mold climbing the walls or anything, but she may still have a
> potential spore issue there.
>
> I have a friend who can't get a good sourdough starter going. Seems it
> always turns pink on him. He lives in a well forested area and his
> backyard is pretty much natural mulch from leaves and mold. His case
> is fairly radical but Julie may have something a little like it going
> on. 'No see'um' spores or something?
>
> On the other comments on it being the store selling lower quality items
> to delivery customers, I don't buy into that one. They'd horrifically
> lose all customers for that venue if so and all the ones *here*, all
> you have to do if call and they comeback, replace, and it's *free* then.
>
> That all said, I have one store near me that I won't get any fresh
> foods from. I believe it is at least partly a local manager issue.
> The super WalMart nearest me. It used to be good but then they dummied
> down what the manager could do to ensure best produce and he quit.
> Since then, I've had so many things mold the next day, I stopped using
> them at all. No other stores have that issue so it's not something
> environmental to my place.

There are some stores here where I will not buy meat or produce unless it is
some branded/prepackaged item. Trader Joes is an exception. I will buy
neither from them. Too many meat recalls for my liking and the produce I've
bought in the past is almost always bad.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 10:42:17 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> I'm thnking something like that too is possible (at least for some of
> it). Julie is in a fairly damp climate I gather. It's not like she
> has mold climbing the walls or anything, but she may still have a
> potential spore issue there.
>
> I have a friend who can't get a good sourdough starter going. Seems it
> always turns pink on him. He lives in a well forested area and his
> backyard is pretty much natural mulch from leaves and mold. His case
> is fairly radical but Julie may have something a little like it going
> on. 'No see'um' spores or something?
>
> On the other comments on it being the store selling lower quality items
> to delivery customers, I don't buy into that one. They'd horrifically
> lose all customers for that venue if so and all the ones *here*, all
> you have to do if call and they comeback, replace, and it's *free* then.
>
> That all said, I have one store near me that I won't get any fresh
> foods from. I believe it is at least partly a local manager issue.
> The super WalMart nearest me. It used to be good but then they dummied
> down what the manager could do to ensure best produce and he quit.
> Since then, I've had so many things mold the next day, I stopped using
> them at all. No other stores have that issue so it's not something
> environmental to my place.

I think that some of these invisible infestations can be highly localized.
In one house but not the other. It might also be that some stores will have
this problem and some won't. My guess is that it's tough to rid a place of
some spores once they're established.

---

But if that were the case, then wouldn't the other foods in my fridge door
go moldy too? And they didn't.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The turban broomer was at the Lynnwood Walmart. I haven't been there
> for a long time either but neither has he.

And how would you know that?

On 1/22/2018 11:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> news
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "dsi1"* wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>>>
>>> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about those
>>> other guys.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>
>> I like this better. ;-)
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU
>>
>> Cheri
>
> OMG! Barney Fife and Lurch!

And Batman and the Skipper!

:-))))

On 1/22/2018 11:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> news
>> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 1/22/2018 6:58 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about
>>>>> those other guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>>
>>>> I like this better. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh yeah...
>>>
>>> Now that's where it all came from!
>>
>>
>>
>> I've always found it hard to sit still when this song plays, even to
>> this day.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sys9LCUo-AU
>>
>> Cheri
>
> This one for me:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag


Mmm hmm!

And toss in an urban anthem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3j2NYZ8FKs

On 1/22/2018 11:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> news
>> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 1/22/2018 10:23 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On 1/22/2018 6:58 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:46:12 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, no. Was this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyW1p7SpYW8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rick Nielsen is a crackerjack guitar player. I don't know about
>>>>>>> those other guys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like this better. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yeah...
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that's where it all came from!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've always found it hard to sit still when this song plays, even to
>>>> this day.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sys9LCUo-AU
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> A classic and also:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRTQceLvsA
>>
>> That's a good one too.
>
> Don't think I've heard that one. But this one is good:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pa9x9fZBtY

Yeah!

On 1/22/2018 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 1/22/2018 8:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 1:19:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>
>>> He's inexplicably named Bun E. Carlos. Two pretty boy rock stars and
>>> two goofy out-of-place looking guys? It's more perfect than most.
>>>
>>
>>
>> A supernatural tip of the sticks to:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZNL7QVJjE
>
> I loves me some Motown.

Yes indeedy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkM8F0sjSw

The cleanest bass line in Motown.

esta vieja casa wrote:
>
> On 1/22/2018 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
> > news
> >> On 1/22/2018 8:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 1:19:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ==
> >>>>
> >>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
> >>>
> >>> He's inexplicably named Bun E. Carlos. Two pretty boy rock stars and
> >>> two goofy out-of-place looking guys? It's more perfect than most.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> A supernatural tip of the sticks to:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZNL7QVJjE
> >
> > I loves me some Motown.
>
> Yes indeedy!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkM8F0sjSw
>
> The cleanest bass line in Motown.

Rather than make us click on often worthless youtube links, I
sure wish all of you would include a short description along with
the address. :-D

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 8:38:26 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> But if that were the case, then wouldn't the other foods in my fridge door
> go moldy too? And they didn't.

I don't know. The microorganism that attacked my rice didn't affect anything else.

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 7:12:58 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>
> Rather than make us click on often worthless youtube links, I
> sure wish all of you would include a short description along with
> the address. :-D

A woman in a blue dress is singing and dancing with hats, shoes, and other objects that have legs and feet which are walking towards and past the camera. The music sounds like Russian Christmas music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAGyQ5Rmz7o

On 1/23/2018 11:10 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 8:38:26 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> But if that were the case, then wouldn't the other foods in my fridge door
>> go moldy too? And they didn't.
>
> I don't know. The microorganism that attacked my rice didn't affect anything else.
>

Still waiting for those as-cooked aged steak pics...

;-)

On 1/23/2018 11:20 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 7:12:58 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>
>> Rather than make us click on often worthless youtube links, I
>> sure wish all of you would include a short description along with
>> the address. :-D
>
> A woman in a blue dress is singing and dancing with hats, shoes, and other objects that have legs and feet which are walking towards and past the camera. The music sounds like Russian Christmas music.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAGyQ5Rmz7o
>


"Shadowoc91
11 months ago
I'm glad I live in a world where something like this can exist."

Two thumbs up!!!

Love the whole Nintendo world vibe, so creative.

:-)

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 8:23:03 AM UTC-10, esta vieja casa wrote:
>
> Still waiting for those as-cooked aged steak pics...
>
> ;-)

I'd post 'em but they don't exist. They pretty much look like a fried steak. I got a couple more but they're in the fridge decomposing. I'll remember to take some pics when I fry them up. It's going to take a couple of weeks.

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 8:26:21 AM UTC-10, esta vieja casa wrote:
>
>
> "Shadowoc91
> 11 months ago
> I'm glad I live in a world where something like this can exist."
>
> Two thumbs up!!!
>
> Love the whole Nintendo world vibe, so creative.
>
> :-)

Kawaii fashion videoblogger makes it big as a pop music sensation. That's highly unlikely but that's what happened.

Girl dies by an arrow through her heart and walks in the land of the dead. Through the power of kawaii, she transforms the landscape, is reborn, and gets her life back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eryOLPafXNc

On 1/23/2018 11:36 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 8:23:03 AM UTC-10, esta vieja casa wrote:
>>
>> Still waiting for those as-cooked aged steak pics...
>>
>> ;-)
>
> I'd post 'em but they don't exist. They pretty much look like a fried steak. I got a couple more but they're in the fridge decomposing. I'll remember to take some pics when I fry them up. It's going to take a couple of weeks.
>

Lol, no worries...fried steak is fried steak.

But Sheldon may accuse you of imaginary steak minus the photographic
evidence.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 7:12:58 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>
> Rather than make us click on often worthless youtube links, I
> sure wish all of you would include a short description along with
> the address. :-D

A woman in a blue dress is singing and dancing with hats, shoes, and other
objects that have legs and feet which are walking towards and past the
camera. The music sounds like Russian Christmas music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAGyQ5Rmz7o

==

LOL I love it))))

On 1/23/2018 12:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 8:26:21 AM UTC-10, esta vieja casa wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Shadowoc91
>> 11 months ago
>> I'm glad I live in a world where something like this can exist."
>>
>> Two thumbs up!!!
>>
>> Love the whole Nintendo world vibe, so creative.
>>
>> :-)
>
> Kawaii fashion videoblogger makes it big as a pop music sensation. That's highly unlikely but that's what happened.
>
> Girl dies by an arrow through her heart and walks in the land of the dead. Through the power of kawaii, she transforms the landscape, is reborn, and gets her life back.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eryOLPafXNc
>

From a big round calzone to a bit of a souffle over crust.

Darned tasty looking!

Esp. like the one with the interlaced pie crust strips on top.

On 1/23/2018 12:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 8:26:21 AM UTC-10, esta vieja casa wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Shadowoc91
>> 11 months ago
>> I'm glad I live in a world where something like this can exist."
>>
>> Two thumbs up!!!
>>
>> Love the whole Nintendo world vibe, so creative.
>>
>> :-)
>
> Kawaii fashion videoblogger makes it big as a pop music sensation. That's highly unlikely but that's what happened.
>
> Girl dies by an arrow through her heart and walks in the land of the dead. Through the power of kawaii, she transforms the landscape, is reborn, and gets her life back.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eryOLPafXNc
>

This is so cool, it's like someone morphed a kaleidoscope with Yellow
Submarine's world!

The heck with Taylor Swift (not really), but these are art defined.

"esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
news
> On 1/22/2018 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 1/22/2018 8:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 1:19:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>>
>>>> He's inexplicably named Bun E. Carlos. Two pretty boy rock stars and
>>>> two goofy out-of-place looking guys? It's more perfect than most.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A supernatural tip of the sticks to:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZNL7QVJjE
>>
>> I loves me some Motown.
>
> Yes indeedy!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkM8F0sjSw
>
> The cleanest bass line in Motown.


Good songs, and this, I love this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNS6D4hSQdA

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> esta vieja casa wrote:
>>
>> On 1/22/2018 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
>> > news >> >> On 1/22/2018 8:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> >>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 1:19:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ==
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>> >>>
>> >>> He's inexplicably named Bun E. Carlos. Two pretty boy rock stars and
>> >>> two goofy out-of-place looking guys? It's more perfect than most.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> A supernatural tip of the sticks to:
>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZNL7QVJjE
>> >
>> > I loves me some Motown.
>>
>> Yes indeedy!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkM8F0sjSw
>>
>> The cleanest bass line in Motown.
>
> Rather than make us click on often worthless youtube links, I
> sure wish all of you would include a short description along with
> the address. :-D


Marvin Gaye singing "What's Going On" Live, the one above that is BB King
and Stand By Me.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
news
> On 1/22/2018 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "esta vieja casa" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 1/22/2018 8:55 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 1:19:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> That drummer looked a bit out of place)
>>>>
>>>> He's inexplicably named Bun E. Carlos. Two pretty boy rock stars and
>>>> two goofy out-of-place looking guys? It's more perfect than most.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A supernatural tip of the sticks to:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZNL7QVJjE
>>
>> I loves me some Motown.
>
> Yes indeedy!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkM8F0sjSw
>
> The cleanest bass line in Motown.


Good songs, and this, I love this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNS6D4hSQdA

==
nice