On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:24:22 +1100, Bryce >
wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 13:18:29 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2018-02-04 12:25 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> I hardly ever look for recipes on the 'Net. If I am looking for ideas
>>> I will probably go to Food Network because there are enough recipes
>>> from reliable sources for me to get the gist of how to prepare.
>>> Because sometimes you are just looking for something to fit around
>>> what you have in the fridge as leftovers or as fresh. Yesterday I was
>>> looking for a basic but different stir fry sauce and just typed stir
>>> fry sauce into my search engine. That's how I ended up at yumly. It
>>> gave me what I needed.
>>
>>Fitting around what I have in the fridge is one of the reasons that I
>>often look up recipes online. I enter the word "recipe" and some of the
>>ingredients I am planning to use up and Google gives me a number of
>>recipes with those ingredients.
>
>We stir-fry vegetables, (air-)fry fish or tofu, air-fry some sweet
>potato, for instance, and that's it. We rarely use recipes.

So you don't have anything against killing a poor innocent fish??

On 2018-02-04 5:41 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:24:22 +1100, Bryce >
> wrote:
>> We stir-fry vegetables, (air-)fry fish or tofu, air-fry some sweet
>> potato, for instance, and that's it. We rarely use recipes.
>
> So you don't have anything against killing a poor innocent fish??

It's curious that so many people who think that killing mammals and
birds to eat them is cruel but that they have no concerns about the way
fish meet their doom. The suffocate in gill nets or in the hold of the
ships. Fishermen can bop them on the head and gut them while they are
still alive. If baby seals looked like lobsters they would stick them
into boiling water.

On 2/4/2018 3:37 PM, wrote:
>> You're a bit of an Archie Bunker, aren't you? You reject everybody
>> who's not exactly like you.
> Well I'm in line with him -


Oh we know, we know...

On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 18:37:20 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 02:49:09 +1100, Bryce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 08:45:13 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2018-02-03 4:31 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm always the last to know, but have you checked out
>>>> https://www.yummly.com/
>>>>
>>>> It's easy to fill in your recipe ingredient requirements and find what
>>>> you want.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>"Bigly" of you Janet:-) Thanks!
>>>But a recipe for a vegan GF Spanish omelette? There was an article in
>>>the WP or NYT the other day about vegans forcing their cats and dogs to
>>>eat a vegan diet. Nutters, the lot of 'em!
>>
>>You're a bit of an Archie Bunker, aren't you? You reject everybody
>>who's not exactly like you.
>
>Well I'm in line with him - the other day I wandered through the
>section in my supermarket for vegans, gluten sensitives, egg free -
>you name it. I can see where it must be popular with management,
>everything costs more, has such cutsey names and is, IMO, pretty darn
>stupid.

I can see the point of veganism from an animal welfare point of view.
You're a meat eater, so for you veganism is useless. That's logical.

On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 18:41:03 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:24:22 +1100, Bryce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 13:18:29 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2018-02-04 12:25 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I hardly ever look for recipes on the 'Net. If I am looking for ideas
>>>> I will probably go to Food Network because there are enough recipes
>>>> from reliable sources for me to get the gist of how to prepare.
>>>> Because sometimes you are just looking for something to fit around
>>>> what you have in the fridge as leftovers or as fresh. Yesterday I was
>>>> looking for a basic but different stir fry sauce and just typed stir
>>>> fry sauce into my search engine. That's how I ended up at yumly. It
>>>> gave me what I needed.
>>>
>>>Fitting around what I have in the fridge is one of the reasons that I
>>>often look up recipes online. I enter the word "recipe" and some of the
>>>ingredients I am planning to use up and Google gives me a number of
>>>recipes with those ingredients.
>>
>>We stir-fry vegetables, (air-)fry fish or tofu, air-fry some sweet
>>potato, for instance, and that's it. We rarely use recipes.
>
>So you don't have anything against killing a poor innocent fish??

Ideally I shouldn't eat fish either. Or cheese or milk. I only eat our
own eggs. Our hens have a good life but where are their brothers?

On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:53:51 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-02-04 5:41 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:24:22 +1100, Bryce >
>> wrote:
>>> We stir-fry vegetables, (air-)fry fish or tofu, air-fry some sweet
>>> potato, for instance, and that's it. We rarely use recipes.
>>
>> So you don't have anything against killing a poor innocent fish??
>
>It's curious that so many people who think that killing mammals and
>birds to eat them is cruel but that they have no concerns about the way
>fish meet their doom. The suffocate in gill nets or in the hold of the
>ships. Fishermen can bop them on the head and gut them while they are
>still alive. If baby seals looked like lobsters they would stick them
>into boiling water.

So what you're saying is that pescatarians are halfway (only halfway)
decent people and meat eaters are just plain monsters. I see your
point.

On 2018-02-04 7:21 PM, Bryce wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:53:51 -0500, Dave Smith

>> It's curious that so many people who think that killing mammals and
>> birds to eat them is cruel but that they have no concerns about the way
>> fish meet their doom. The suffocate in gill nets or in the hold of the
>> ships. Fishermen can bop them on the head and gut them while they are
>> still alive. If baby seals looked like lobsters they would stick them
>> into boiling water.
>
> So what you're saying is that pescatarians are halfway (only halfway)
> decent people and meat eaters are just plain monsters. I see your
> point.

No, I don't think you do see my point. I think that the pescatarians
have deluded themselves into thinking they are decent people because
they don't eat animals who met an agonizing death, but who don't realize
that the humanely slaughtered mammals and birds suffer a lot less than
the fish do.

On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 19:33:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-02-04 7:21 PM, Bryce wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:53:51 -0500, Dave Smith
>
>>> It's curious that so many people who think that killing mammals and
>>> birds to eat them is cruel but that they have no concerns about the way
>>> fish meet their doom. The suffocate in gill nets or in the hold of the
>>> ships. Fishermen can bop them on the head and gut them while they are
>>> still alive. If baby seals looked like lobsters they would stick them
>>> into boiling water.
>>
>> So what you're saying is that pescatarians are halfway (only halfway)
>> decent people and meat eaters are just plain monsters. I see your
>> point.
>
>No, I don't think you do see my point. I think that the pescatarians
>have deluded themselves into thinking they are decent people because
>they don't eat animals who met an agonizing death, but who don't realize
>that the humanely slaughtered mammals and birds suffer a lot less than
>the fish do.

So you're eating calves and lambs because you feel sorry for the fish.
I've underestimated you, Dave!

On 2018-02-04 8:32 PM, Bryce wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 19:33:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>

>>> So what you're saying is that pescatarians are halfway (only halfway)
>>> decent people and meat eaters are just plain monsters. I see your
>>> point.
>>
>> No, I don't think you do see my point. I think that the pescatarians
>> have deluded themselves into thinking they are decent people because
>> they don't eat animals who met an agonizing death, but who don't realize
>> that the humanely slaughtered mammals and birds suffer a lot less than
>> the fish do.
>
> So you're eating calves and lambs because you feel sorry for the fish.
> I've underestimated you, Dave!
>


So.... you are taking strange leaps of logic....

On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 20:35:29 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-02-04 8:32 PM, Bryce wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 19:33:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>
>>>> So what you're saying is that pescatarians are halfway (only halfway)
>>>> decent people and meat eaters are just plain monsters. I see your
>>>> point.
>>>
>>> No, I don't think you do see my point. I think that the pescatarians
>>> have deluded themselves into thinking they are decent people because
>>> they don't eat animals who met an agonizing death, but who don't realize
>>> that the humanely slaughtered mammals and birds suffer a lot less than
>>> the fish do.
>>
>> So you're eating calves and lambs because you feel sorry for the fish.
>> I've underestimated you, Dave!
>>
>
>
>So.... you are taking strange leaps of logic....

Ideally, I shouldn't eat fish either. But I feel less empathy towards
fish than towards mammals and birds. That's why I draw the line there.
I'd be a better person if I also didn't eat fish or eat cheese.

Anyway, it's strange when meat eaters judge pescatarians. It should be
the other way around. You'll eat anything, without any scruples. And
so does everybody else here. That's why I'll only accept judgment from
vegetarians and vegans

On 2018-02-04 8:43 PM, Bryce wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 20:35:29 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-02-04 8:32 PM, Bryce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 19:33:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>> So what you're saying is that pescatarians are halfway (only halfway)
>>>>> decent people and meat eaters are just plain monsters. I see your
>>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> No, I don't think you do see my point. I think that the pescatarians
>>>> have deluded themselves into thinking they are decent people because
>>>> they don't eat animals who met an agonizing death, but who don't realize
>>>> that the humanely slaughtered mammals and birds suffer a lot less than
>>>> the fish do.
>>>
>>> So you're eating calves and lambs because you feel sorry for the fish.
>>> I've underestimated you, Dave!
>>>
>>
>>
>> So.... you are taking strange leaps of logic....
>
> Ideally, I shouldn't eat fish either. But I feel less empathy towards
> fish than towards mammals and birds. That's why I draw the line there.
> I'd be a better person if I also didn't eat fish or eat cheese.
>

I don't know if you would be a better person for it. I don't discount
the idea that you might think that you are,


> Anyway, it's strange when meat eaters judge pescatarians. It should be
> the other way around. You'll eat anything, without any scruples. And
> so does everybody else here. That's why I'll only accept judgment from
> vegetarians and vegans

The only judgement is in the form of questioning how someone can refrain
from eating meat on the grounds that the critters suffer but having no
concern about the horrific suffering that fish go through when they are
caught in a net or on a hook and then thrown into the hold.

On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 20:59:37 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-02-04 8:43 PM, Bryce wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 20:35:29 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-02-04 8:32 PM, Bryce wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 19:33:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> So what you're saying is that pescatarians are halfway (only halfway)
>>>>>> decent people and meat eaters are just plain monsters. I see your
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I don't think you do see my point. I think that the pescatarians
>>>>> have deluded themselves into thinking they are decent people because
>>>>> they don't eat animals who met an agonizing death, but who don't realize
>>>>> that the humanely slaughtered mammals and birds suffer a lot less than
>>>>> the fish do.
>>>>
>>>> So you're eating calves and lambs because you feel sorry for the fish.
>>>> I've underestimated you, Dave!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So.... you are taking strange leaps of logic....
>>
>> Ideally, I shouldn't eat fish either. But I feel less empathy towards
>> fish than towards mammals and birds. That's why I draw the line there.
>> I'd be a better person if I also didn't eat fish or eat cheese.
>>
>
>I don't know if you would be a better person for it. I don't discount
>the idea that you might think that you are,
>
>
>> Anyway, it's strange when meat eaters judge pescatarians. It should be
>> the other way around. You'll eat anything, without any scruples. And
>> so does everybody else here. That's why I'll only accept judgment from
>> vegetarians and vegans
>
>The only judgement is in the form of questioning how someone can refrain
>from eating meat on the grounds that the critters suffer but having no
>concern about the horrific suffering that fish go through when they are
>caught in a net or on a hook and then thrown into the hold.

And I answered that question.

But why do you eat anything, knowing how much all these animals
suffer?

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