Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
proclamations to the same.

Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.

I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
oven fer about 20-30 mins.

If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
tossed the rest.

I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
for that problem.

nb

On 4/29/2018 10:51 AM, notbob wrote:
> Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
> done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
> mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
> proclamations to the same.
>
> Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
> same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
> half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.

It's amazing, you cut them in half and still it's a meal for 2.
And not two wimpy eaters, either.

> I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
> oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
> to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
> oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
> If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
> I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
> breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
> Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
> tossed the rest.

Dehydrated chicken, yum.

> I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
> have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
> for that problem.

There's probably a lot of that kind of thing going on in Colorado these
days. Heh. Just kidding. The legal system hasn't managed to stop
that particular cure anywhere.

nancy

On 2018-04-29 10:51 AM, notbob wrote:
> Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
> done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
> mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
> proclamations to the same.
>
> Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
> same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
> half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.
>
> I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
> oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
> to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
> oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
> If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
> I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
> breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
> Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
> tossed the rest.


When it comes to chicken breast there is a fine line between cooked and
overcooked. You went way over that line.
>
> I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
> have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
> for that problem.

Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
there are plans for another.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
> There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
> there are plans for another.

It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.

notbob wrote:

> Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
> done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
> mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
> proclamations to the same.
>
> Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
> same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
> half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.
>
> I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
> oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
> to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
> oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
> If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
> I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
> breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
> Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
> tossed the rest.
>
> I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
> have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
> for that problem.


Pot legalization has started Colorado down the path of ultimately becoming a Kalifornia - style ********...


--
Best
Greg

On 29 Apr 2018 14:51:08 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
>done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
>mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
>proclamations to the same.
>
>Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
>same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
>half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.
>
>I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
>oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
>to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
>oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
>If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
>I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
>breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
>Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
>tossed the rest.
>
>I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
>have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
>for that problem.
>
>nb

Sorry to smiles but...

Gary wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
> > There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
> > there are plans for another.
>
> It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
> 38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
> lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
> it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
> and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.


Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.

Colorado has been flooded with huge numbers of homeless, they can move to CO and get a Medicaid scrip for free pot, I mean, what is not to lose?

So, another lovely place is on the road to ruin...

<shaking head>


--
Best
Greg

On 29 Apr 2018 14:51:08 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>Since I no longer eat a buncha carbs, I can eat more meat. As I've
>done with eating anything with GMOs or antibiotics, I try and eat
>mostly organic, as I'm sure I've bored you all to death with my
>proclamations to the same.
>
>Anyway, I've been eating a lot more organic chicken. It's still the
>same HUGE breasts as one finds on most CAFO birds, so must be cut in
>half (lengthwise). I get roughly four meals fer about $6-$7USD.
>
>I usaully cook my chicken breast by putting one ina SS skillet (w/
>oil). I liberally sprinkle with Old Bay Seasoning and fry long enough
>to jes brown the outsides. I then put the pan in a very low (200°F)
>oven fer about 20-30 mins.
>
>If pulled soon enough, the meat is quite juicy and tender. My fail?
>I eat so few carbs, anymore, I forget to eat. I left the chicken
>breast in the oven, overnight. Can we all say, "hockey puck"!?
>Howzbout, "chew toy"? I managed to wrestle a piece off the 'puck'. I
>tossed the rest.
>
>I know this is a total ramble, but no-one else was posting and I may
>have stopped drinking, but this IS Colorado and we have jes the cure
>for that problem.
>
>nb

Much better to slice them bazooms into cutlets, season, and gently pan
fry... did that with boneless pork chops this morning, will be for
dinner with pasta... at the same time also fried some Eyetalian
saw-seege. Variety is the spice of life.

On 2018-04-29 11:44 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
>> There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
>> there are plans for another.
>
> It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
> 38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
> lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
> it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
> and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.

There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young. Based on
what I smell when I am driving around by motorcycle or out bicycling, I
would say that lots of people are already driving around stoned. I don't
imagine that legalization is going to make it any more of a problem.

If this was happening 30-40 years ago I would have been lined up at the
doors on opening day of the pot shops, but I have no interest in it
now. The last thing I need right now is to take up a form of smoking, or
getting a case of the munchies.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 08:55:03 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
> wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
>> > There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
>> > there are plans for another.
>>
>> It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
>> 38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
>> lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
>> it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
>> and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.
>
>
>Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.

Legalise pot and focus your resources on the hard drugs. That's the
way to go. Countries that are many years ahead of the US have proven
that. Pot is like alcohol. Big Brother shouldn't ban it. Not even in
the land of the not so free.

On 2018-04-29 3:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 08:55:03 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
> > wrote:
>
>> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.
>
> Legalise pot and focus your resources on the hard drugs. That's the
> way to go. Countries that are many years ahead of the US have proven
> that. Pot is like alcohol. Big Brother shouldn't ban it. Not even in
> the land of the not so free.

I went to university in the early 70s. Just about everyone smoked pot.
Most of them went on to successful careers. I know doctors and lawyers
who smoked pot. It is not a gateway drug, but having it available only
from dealers puts pot smokers into a criminal subculture where they are
more likely to encounter harder drugs. Keep it legal and let the black
market implode.

I am not sure our provincial government is tackling the black market.
They apparently set the price at $10 per gram, and of course they
figured they should add a special tax, along with the harmonized
provincial and federal sales tax. They originally planned to have only
a few stores. The closest to me was going to be in Hamilton, so it would
be about an hour drive each way and then the prices would be about the
same as it would be from a dealer. If I were interested in smoking pot I
could save the two hours of driving and half a tank of gas and get it
from the local dealer.

There are already lots of people I know who have prescriptions for it
and order it online and get it delivered.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 17:51:59 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-04-29 3:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 08:55:03 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.
>>
>> Legalise pot and focus your resources on the hard drugs. That's the
>> way to go. Countries that are many years ahead of the US have proven
>> that. Pot is like alcohol. Big Brother shouldn't ban it. Not even in
>> the land of the not so free.
>
>I went to university in the early 70s. Just about everyone smoked pot.
>Most of them went on to successful careers. I know doctors and lawyers
>who smoked pot. It is not a gateway drug, but having it available only
>from dealers puts pot smokers into a criminal subculture where they are
>more likely to encounter harder drugs. Keep it legal and let the black
>market implode.

Exactly.

On 4/29/2018 11:55 AM, Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz wrote:

>
> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot. As for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway" drug.

I do know of one person that smokes and was able to stop a couple of
prescription drugs, but, I'm sure many abuse the ability to get it.

I don't think it is a gateway drug, but I do think some people have
gateway personalities and addictive tendencies. If not marijuana, it
would be something else. Sad to see how much drug use exists and the
problems of overdose.


>
> Colorado has been flooded with huge numbers of homeless, they can move to CO and get a Medicaid scrip for free pot, I mean, what is not to lose?
>
> So, another lovely place is on the road to ruin...
>
> <shaking head>

I can see that happening

On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.

It's been my observation that people should worry more about
people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
for a joint and winding up with a record.

nancy

On 2018-04-29 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.


Yes indeed. That is a major problem. It is much worse than driving under
the influence of pot and worse than driving drunk. A couple says ago I
was out for a motorcycle ride with a friend and an oncoming car wandered
over to the shoulder and then swerved back and over the centre line
before he got back to the middle of his lane. As he went by me I could
see that he was looking at a hand held device.
>
> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> for a joint and winding up with a record.

That happened to a friend of mine. At the age of 18 he got busted for a
nickle bag of pot and got five years in jail for it.

On 2018-04-29 5:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 11:55 AM, Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz wrote:
>
>>
>> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot.Â* As
>> for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot
>> "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway"
>> drug.
>
> I do know of one person that smokes and was able to stop a couple of
> prescription drugs, but, I'm sure many abuse the ability to get it.
>
> I don't think it is a gateway drug, but I do think some people have
> gateway personalities and addictive tendencies.Â* If not marijuana, it
> would be something else. Sad to see how much drug use exists and the
> problems of overdose.
>

>
Do you know anyone who smokes MJ who didn't start with tobacco?

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 11:12:15 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> LOL! Anyone who thinks a person of his age didn't play with some weed,
> is an idiot. It's like when I joined the Navy, 'no I never smoked
> weed' meant I was lying right out the door. I tried it. It seems I am
> mildly allergic to it best I can tell.

What the heck are parents supposed to tell their kids in these times? Stay away from reefer because one day you could become president? OTOH, if there's one guy that needs weed it's the current POTUS. That guy needs to chill and mellow out.

We gave my mother-in-law pot pills in order to ramp up her appetite for food. That shit worked great but she went get all lolo. It was a choice between her fading away or her being out of her mind. What a choice!

On 2018-04-29 8:40 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-04-29 5:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> I don't think it is a gateway drug, but I do think some people have
>> gateway personalities and addictive tendencies.Â* If not marijuana, it
>> would be something else. Sad to see how much drug use exists and the
>> problems of overdose.
>>
>
>>
> Do you know anyone who smokes MJ who didn't start with tobacco?

I know people who smoked pot who never smoked tobacco. I suspect that
had all had a chocolate bar at some point, so chocolate was the gateway.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 18:40:18 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-04-29 5:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/29/2018 11:55 AM, Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot.* As
>>> for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot
>>> "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway"
>>> drug.
>>
>> I do know of one person that smokes and was able to stop a couple of
>> prescription drugs, but, I'm sure many abuse the ability to get it.
>>
>> I don't think it is a gateway drug, but I do think some people have
>> gateway personalities and addictive tendencies.* If not marijuana, it
>> would be something else. Sad to see how much drug use exists and the
>> problems of overdose.
>>
>Do you know anyone who smokes MJ who didn't start with tobacco?

No. I also don't know anyone who started with MJ and moved on to the
hard stuff.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:57:09 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
>It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>for a joint and winding up with a record.

And the guy who throws you in jail then goes home and hits the
bourbon.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 20:09:25 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-04-29 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.* I don't know why. Just as many
>>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>>
>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.* My trip to
>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>
>Yes indeed. That is a major problem. It is much worse than driving under
>the influence of pot and worse than driving drunk. A couple says ago I
>was out for a motorcycle ride with a friend and an oncoming car wandered
>over to the shoulder and then swerved back and over the centre line
>before he got back to the middle of his lane. As he went by me I could
>see that he was looking at a hand held device.
>>
>> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>> for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
>That happened to a friend of mine. At the age of 18 he got busted for a
>nickle bag of pot and got five years in jail for it.

You people live in harsh countries.

On 4/29/2018 8:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-04-29 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>
> Yes indeed. That is a major problem. It is much worse than driving under
> the influence of pot and worse than driving drunk.Â* A couple says ago I
> was out for a motorcycle ride with a friend and an oncoming car wandered
> over to the shoulder and then swerved back and over the centre line
> before he got back to the middle of his lane. As he went by me I could
> see that he was looking at a hand held device.

It's all over the place. I pick them out, watch this one. Can't
maintain a lane, or their speed, or they stop for a light 3 cars
back. Can't wait to get to the phone.
>> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>> for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
> That happened to a friend of mine. At the age of 18 he got busted for a
> nickle bag of pot and got five years in jail for it.

FIVE YEARS. Now, that's a crime.

nancy

On 4/29/2018 8:40 PM, graham wrote:

> Do you know anyone who smokes MJ who didn't start with tobacco?

Yes, for sure.

nancy

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 8:45:28 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> No. I also don't know anyone who started with MJ and moved on to the
> hard stuff.
>
>
You've led a sheltered life.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:25:40 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 8:45:28 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> No. I also don't know anyone who started with MJ and moved on to the
>> hard stuff.
>>
>>
>You've led a sheltered life.

But I've known lots of people who smoked MJ and kept it at that.

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 8:40:23 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> On 2018-04-29 5:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/29/2018 11:55 AM, Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Except in very extreme cases, there is no need for medical pot.Â* As
> >> for "recreational" use, in the workforce development field we call pot
> >> "the unemployment drug"...and YES, it is most definitely a "gateway"
> >> drug.
> >
> > I do know of one person that smokes and was able to stop a couple of
> > prescription drugs, but, I'm sure many abuse the ability to get it.
> >
> > I don't think it is a gateway drug, but I do think some people have
> > gateway personalities and addictive tendencies.Â* If not marijuana, it
> > would be something else. Sad to see how much drug use exists and the
> > problems of overdose.
> >
>
> >
> Do you know anyone who smokes MJ who didn't start with tobacco?

No one that I know now smokes pot. Back in the day I knew a lot of
pot smokers who wouldn't touch tobacco.

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce wrote:
>
> Pot is like alcohol. Big Brother shouldn't ban it. Not even in
> the land of the not so free.

My only disagee is I think alcohol is worse than pot as far as
how messed up you can get. But the USA banned alcohol almost 100
years ago and all they did was create an entire new criminal
class. Once legalized, most of the illegal gangster stuff died
out. My mom went back to being a little girl again. Same
should be with pot. It's a baby drug, imo. No worse than having a
few beers.

In the early 1990's, there was a small article in my newspaper.
Some guy right here in Virginia Beach was stopped and he had 2.5
ounces of pot on him. That amount not only got him charged for
possession but also with "intent to sell." He was sentenced to
30 years in the state prison for being some evil drug dealer.

Virginia also has/had a no parole policy.
That poor fellow might even still be in prison. unbelievable.

"Nancy Young" wrote in message news
On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.

It's been my observation that people should worry more about
people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
for a joint and winding up with a record.

nancy

==

Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
one you will be in real trouble.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
> one you will be in real trouble.

Makes me wonder how we all survived before cell phones started
up. Most everyone these days are so addicted to them and many
that I see are talking, not texting or using the internet. Seems
now, so many people can't even leave the house for a few minutes
without talking to someone. I really don't get it.

When I go out anywhere, I'd carry the cell phone in the car just
for breakdown emergencies but only that. I keep it with me but
have it turned off.

Also very rude these days is when you are talking to someone in
person then their cell phone rings. Most times, they just have to
answer right away and put you (in person) on "hold." WTH? I've
never done that to someone. When I am talking to someone and a
call comes in, I ignore the phone. The caller can leave a
voicemail and I'll call them back in a bit.

These days, everyone acts like they are doctors on call and have
to answer immediately.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:33:28 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Pot is like alcohol. Big Brother shouldn't ban it. Not even in
>> the land of the not so free.
>
>My only disagee is I think alcohol is worse than pot as far as
>how messed up you can get. But the USA banned alcohol almost 100
>years ago and all they did was create an entire new criminal
>class. Once legalized, most of the illegal gangster stuff died
>out. My mom went back to being a little girl again. Same
>should be with pot. It's a baby drug, imo. No worse than having a
>few beers.

I think so too. Some people become bad addicts, but that also applies
to alcohol of, course.

>In the early 1990's, there was a small article in my newspaper.
>Some guy right here in Virginia Beach was stopped and he had 2.5
>ounces of pot on him. That amount not only got him charged for
>possession but also with "intent to sell." He was sentenced to
>30 years in the state prison for being some evil drug dealer.
>
>Virginia also has/had a no parole policy.
>That poor fellow might even still be in prison. unbelievable.

Yes. Why are governments so afraid of pot?

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Nancy Young" wrote in message news >
>On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
>It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
>nancy
>
>==
>
>Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
>one you will be in real trouble.

Isn't it illegal everywhere?

On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young"Â* wrote

> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.Â* If you are spotted
> using one you will be in real trouble.

It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.

nancy

On 2018-04-29 10:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:25:40 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 8:45:28 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> No. I also don't know anyone who started with MJ and moved on to the
>>> hard stuff.
>>>
>>>
>> You've led a sheltered life.
>
> But I've known lots of people who smoked MJ and kept it at that.

I know/knew some who went on to harder drugs. They had started on
softer things, like tobacco. Some went on to cocaine. Some switched to
alcohol, which is responsible for more health, social, family, money and
career problems than all illegal drugs combined.

One interesting case is an old friend, Steve. He was a cigarette
smoking, booze guzzling, pot smoker who was a speed freak for a while
and did heroin for a while. He quite speed and heroin. For years he
smoked pot and drank a lot of wine. He quit the wine, quit the pot and
eventually gave up cigarettes. He gave up all those things without
getting all religious.

On 2018-04-30 6:04 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> Do you know anyone who smokes MJ who didn't start with tobacco?
>
> No one that I know now smokes pot. Back in the day I knew a lot of
> pot smokers who wouldn't touch tobacco.

Years ago, just about everyone I knew smoked pot. One of the exceptions
is my wife. In my circle of friends it got to the point where only one
person still did. He died a couple years ago. I know some younger
people who do. It's odd, but for a substance that many claim is
addictive and a gateway, I just know too many people who smoked it
regularly for years and then just tired of it and quit.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:10:07 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Nancy Young" wrote in message news >>
>>On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
>>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>>
>>It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>>people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>>DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>>
>>As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>>gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>>for a joint and winding up with a record.
>>
>>nancy
>>
>>==
>>
>>Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
>>one you will be in real trouble.
>
>Isn't it illegal everywhere?

It's been illegal here for several years now. You can use it with
blue tooth, I do occasionally.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:40:00 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young"* wrote
>
>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.* My trip to
>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.* If you are spotted
>> using one you will be in real trouble.
>
>It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
>there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.
>
>nancy

It's been illegal here for maybe five years or more and I rarely see
anyone holding a phone anymore, suffice to say, if I do, I notice them
now!

On 2018-04-30 7:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:

> Also very rude these days is when you are talking to someone in
> person then their cell phone rings. Most times, they just have to
> answer right away and put you (in person) on "hold." WTH? I've
> never done that to someone. When I am talking to someone and a
> call comes in, I ignore the phone. The caller can leave a
> voicemail and I'll call them back in a bit.

I get so few calls that I do check to see who it is, and sometimes it is
important. Sometimes I am expecting an important call. I can forgive
someone checking to see who is calling and explains they have to take
the call. What I see, that I think is very rude, is people in
conversations taking their phone out and constantly checking it.... for
what? Calls and texts usually have a tone, so maybe they are checking
Facebook or Instagram? It's very rude.



> These days, everyone acts like they are doctors on call and have
> to answer immediately.

I can't understand why people out walking or shopping have to have a
phone glued to their ear. There can't be that much going on in their
lives if they have the time to be out.

On 2018-04-30 8:10 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >

>> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
>> one you will be in real trouble.
>
> Isn't it illegal everywhere?

This cite is a little outdated but it shows the diversity of US state
laws regarding cell phone use by drivers.

Some states can all cell phone use for young drivers. Some places ban it
only for school bus drivers. Some had no restrictions at all.



https://www.pcworld.com/article/2465...k_the_law.html

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Nancy Young" wrote in message news > >
> >On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
> >> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
> >> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
> >
> >It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> >people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
> >DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
> >
> >As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> >gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> >for a joint and winding up with a record.
> >
> >nancy
> >
> >==
> >
> >Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
> >one you will be in real trouble.
>
> Isn't it illegal everywhere?

In the U.S., it's a matter of state law. Not all states have laws
against using cellphones while driving. Here's a summary:

<http://www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/cellular-phone-use-and-texting-while-driving-laws.aspx>

Cindy Hamilton

On 2018-04-30 7:00 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:40:00 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nancy Young"Â* wrote
>>
>>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
>>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>>
>>> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.Â* If you are spotted
>>> using one you will be in real trouble.
>>
>> It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
>> there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.
>>
>> nancy
>
> It's been illegal here for maybe five years or more and I rarely see
> anyone holding a phone anymore, suffice to say, if I do, I notice them
> now!
>
It's illegal here too but one still sees idiots ignoring the law. One
case I saw recently was a car in front of me that was very slow to react
to light changes and it was being driven haphazardly. So I overtook as
soon as I could. It turned out to be an elderly woman texting!.