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![]() In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her husband. I don't really know either of them. She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some practical outlook. I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. Any insight appreciated. Thanks Janet US |
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On Wed, 02 May 2018 09:00:52 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: > >In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her >husband. I don't really know either of them. >She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about >feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some >practical outlook. >I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are >any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. >I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn >country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. >They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably >provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. >Any insight appreciated. >Thanks >Janet US I can't help, but wish you luck ![]() |
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On Wed, 02 May 2018 09:00:52 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: > >In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her >husband. I don't really know either of them. Then why are they visiting you?!?!? >She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about >feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some >practical outlook. If you phone to discuss a menu that's all that is necessasary >I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are >any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. >I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn >country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. >They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably >provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. >Any insight appreciated. >Thanks >Janet US How are these people related to you, or are they not related to you... you say you don't know them. so you've never met, so why are you feeding them?!?!? I don't see how feeding someone staying at a motel is in any way your obligation. I think you are making more of this event then you need to. Me, I'd not have guests I don't know, they can be serial killers. |
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> > In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her > husband. I don't really know either of them. Wouldn't your sister-in-law be your brother...oh, maybe your husband's brother. Snipping the rest you said about diabetic menus... You have a month, I wouldn't try to guess and ask here for recipe ideas. Go right to her and ask what she can or won't eat. No need to guess from ideas here. If you will be cooking meals for them, let her clue you in. If they have special nutrition needs, either ask her about that or just let them visit you without sharing meals. |
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On 5/2/2018 10:00 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her > husband. I don't really know either of them. > She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about > feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some > practical outlook. > I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are > any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. > I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn > country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. > They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably > provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. > Any insight appreciated. > Thanks > Janet US > I have had T2 diabetes since 2004. I do not eat a true low-carb diet, but I do eat far fewer carbohydrates than before I was diagnosed. I eat a lot of plain veggies and fruit (especially berries, apples, etc.). Your description of what you eat would be perfect for me. When I am visiting, I seldom make any requests, but it would probably be greatly appreciated if you ask the diabetic if there is anything she has to avoid. Notice, I did not suggest that you ask her what she wants, just what she cannot eat. As for me, I usually find that I can eat everything except the two items where I have allergies. If it is something I can't eat, I just take small portions or eliminate something altogether if it can be done without other people nothing. Sauces can be the worst if there a lot of sugar, so they often work well if they are served on the side. For some diabetics, the only important routine is to make sure they avoid too much rich food and watch their portion size. If you serve "family style" so they can serve their own plates, that will allow your guests to make their own decisions. You are a great hostess by trying to help the woman who has diabetes. If she is a good guest, she will try to fit in and not make requests unless it is truly essential. Since this will be for a week and they will be staying at a motel, it could work well for all of you if you "eat out" (Dutch treat) several times. They may already plan to do that for several meals so she can make careful selections from the menu. Good luck! MaryL |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> > We know you're an unsociable hermit that hates people unless they're > cats, but this is how it's done in the real world these days. He evidently doesn't cook all that well either as he's constantly tossing dinner leftovers out in the yard to feed the critters. |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> > Gary wrote: > > Wouldn't your sister-in-law be your brother...oh, maybe your > > husband's brother. > > Maybe if they had a sex change. oh hell...I sure screwed that one up, eh? ![]() |
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 11:32:26 -0500, MaryL
-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: >On 5/2/2018 10:00 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >> In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her >> husband. I don't really know either of them. >> She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about >> feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some >> practical outlook. >> I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are >> any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. >> I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn >> country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. >> They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably >> provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. >> Any insight appreciated. >> Thanks >> Janet US >> > >I have had T2 diabetes since 2004. I do not eat a true low-carb diet, >but I do eat far fewer carbohydrates than before I was diagnosed. I eat >a lot of plain veggies and fruit (especially berries, apples, etc.). >Your description of what you eat would be perfect for me. When I am >visiting, I seldom make any requests, but it would probably be greatly >appreciated if you ask the diabetic if there is anything she has to >avoid. Notice, I did not suggest that you ask her what she wants, just >what she cannot eat. As for me, I usually find that I can eat >everything except the two items where I have allergies. If it is >something I can't eat, I just take small portions or eliminate something >altogether if it can be done without other people nothing. > >Sauces can be the worst if there a lot of sugar, so they often work well >if they are served on the side. For some diabetics, the only important >routine is to make sure they avoid too much rich food and watch their >portion size. If you serve "family style" so they can serve their own >plates, that will allow your guests to make their own decisions. > >You are a great hostess by trying to help the woman who has diabetes. >If she is a good guest, she will try to fit in and not make requests >unless it is truly essential. Since this will be for a week and they >will be staying at a motel, it could work well for all of you if you >"eat out" (Dutch treat) several times. They may already plan to do that >for several meals so she can make careful selections from the menu. > >Good luck! >MaryL that was super helpful, Mary. Really, really good. You gave me insight into the very questions I had. Since we live on opposite sides of the country I haven't had the opportunity to see how she operates when she visits. It's nice to know that she can eat out as well as at our home without having to 'go without.' My doctor also said low-ish on the carbs so it was good that you also brought that up. I thank you again for touching on all my concerns. ![]() Janet US |
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On 2018-05-02, U.S Janet B > wrote:
> Any insight appreciated. I don't have diabetes, but have pretty much been on a T2 diabetes diet. Basically, NO SUGARS. That includes most carbs, as most carbs break down into glucose, a sugar. It's basically an Atkins diet. Low carbs and sugar. Or do the Paleo diet, which adds zero grains/beans to the mix. Also, read those 'ingredients'. Turns out one 4 oz serving of 'fruit-at-bottom' yogurt has as much sugar as a 12 oz. bottle of soda. "They" (manufacturers) are now trying to stop the labelling of "added sugar", much like they've been successfully fighting off GMO labelling under the guise of preventing increased costs to the consumer. I find this hilarious, as mfrs change labels several time per yr, if only to add, "New" and "Improved". You CAN feed 'em all kindsa meats, veggies, and fruits. If I can survive it, anyone can. BTW, Sunkist 'organic' naval oranges are specially sweet, this year. I've eaten 4-5 doz, this year (1-2 per day). My 'minestrone' soup is also very good fer adding veggies to one's diet (leave out the macaroni). ![]() nb |
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On 2018-05-02 12:24 PM, Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote: > If they have special nutrition needs, either ask her about that > or just let them visit you without sharing meals. I wouldn't spend much time worrying about it. Every diabetic I know cheats on their diet. Just ask her what sort of stuff she usually eats and go with that. Then you can sit back and watch them eat all the stuff they said they weren't supposed to have. Big niece is now diabetic and she will eat everything in the house if you turn your back on her. My brother in law was diabetic. He would drink large amounts of rum and Coke but it was okay because it is Diet Coke. One time when we were visiting him he was complaining about his doctor because he had been put on a 1500 calorie per day diet and was gaining weight. He was eating his breakfast as he was complaining about the doctor, and his breakfast ice cream with chocolate sauce and cookies. I dared to point that out and he insisted it was diet ice cream. A very good friend is diabetic and generally eats well, but when we go for coffee he usually has two donuts with it. |
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On 5/2/2018 11:00 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her > husband. I don't really know either of them. > She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about > feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some > practical outlook. > I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are > any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. Best to talk to her. My grandson avoids most carbs and sugars but can have a little now and again. At times his sugar would go low and he'd have a soda or fruit juice. Meat and veggies are generally easy and amounts not critical. |
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On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 5:01:01 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her > husband. I don't really know either of them. > She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about > feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some > practical outlook. > I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are > any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. > I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn > country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. > They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably > provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. > Any insight appreciated. > Thanks > Janet US Mostly, you want to restrict carbohydrates. Meat and veggies are fine. You want to limit potatoes, rice, or bread. |
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On 2018-05-02 12:37 PM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote: >> >> We know you're an unsociable hermit that hates people unless they're >> cats, but this is how it's done in the real world these days. > > He evidently doesn't cook all that well either as he's constantly > tossing dinner leftovers out in the yard to feed the critters. > Poor critters. |
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"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
... > > In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her > husband. I don't really know either of them. > She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about > feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some > practical outlook. > I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are > any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. > I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn > country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. > They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably > provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. > Any insight appreciated. > Thanks > Janet US Any meat and veggies are fine, best to avoid a whole bunch of starches, but anything in moderation should be fine too and I'm pretty sure that she knows portion control since she's been diabetic for a long time. Is she a type 1 or 2. Is she using insulin? Cheri |
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 12:57:14 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message .. . >> >> In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her >> husband. I don't really know either of them. >> She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about >> feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some >> practical outlook. >> I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are >> any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. >> I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn >> country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. >> They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably >> provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. >> Any insight appreciated. >> Thanks >> Janet US > > >Any meat and veggies are fine, best to avoid a whole bunch of starches, but >anything in moderation should be fine too and I'm pretty sure that she knows >portion control since she's been diabetic for a long time. Is she a type 1 >or 2. Is she using insulin? > >Cheri she has attached insulin pump and glucose monitor. When she is able to, she weighs everything. She is religious about what she eats and has to be so. I just didn't want to put her in the position of being an uncomfortable guest because she had to reject so much of what I offered. If I can get a handle on it in advance I don't have to worry and she can make easy comfortable choices. Janet US |
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On 5/2/2018 4:07 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> she has attached insulin pump and glucose monitor. When she is able > to, she weighs everything. She is religious about what she eats and > has to be so. I just didn't want to put her in the position of being > an uncomfortable guest because she had to reject so much of what I > offered. If I can get a handle on it in advance I don't have to worry > and she can make easy comfortable choices. > Janet US > Then it is easy. Just be sure she can be comfortable getting her portions at the counter or table and she will know what she can have. You already know not to put out a big tray of cake and candy. Good chance she can have a little of the starches but may do a check before she makes a platter and eats. My experience is limited, but I've seen a couple that worry about every gram they consume and a couple of others that pig out on sweets and figure they just take a larger dose of insulin. |
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On 2018-05-02 5:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/2/2018 4:07 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > Then it is easy.Â* Just be sure she can be comfortable getting her > portions at the counter or table and she will know what she can have. > > You already know not to put out a big tray of cake and candy.Â* Good > chance she can have a little of the starches but may do a check before > she makes a platter and eats. > > My experience is limited, but I've seen a couple that worry about every > gram they consume and a couple of others that pig out on sweets and > figure they just take a larger dose of insulin. That sounds reasonable. As I said in another post, every diabetic I know cheats on their diet. When we were having breakfast in a motel in Virginia a couple months ago a guy from the Buffalo area who was chowing down on biscuits and gravy. I dared not because I have already had heart surgery once. He said no problem, just pop an extra Crestor. |
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 14:27:07 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote: wrote: >> On Wed, 02 May 2018 09:00:52 -0600, U.S. Janet B. > >> wrote: >> >>> I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are >>> any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. >>> I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn >>> country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. >>> They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably >>> provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. >>> Any insight appreciated. >>> Thanks >>> Janet US >> >> How are these people related to you, or are they not related to you... >> you say you don't know them. so you've never met, so why are you >> feeding them?!?!? >> I don't see how feeding someone staying at a motel is in any way your >> obligation. I think you are making more of this event then you need >> to. Me, I'd not have guests I don't know, they can be serial killers. >> > >Popeye sez "Trow da bums out! Den break open da crystal palace to >celebrate." Put like that, it sounds like a great plan! |
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![]() "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message ... > > In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her > husband. I don't really know either of them. > She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about > feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some > practical outlook. > I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are > any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. > I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn > country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. > They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably > provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. > Any insight appreciated. > Thanks > Janet US Too much missing and vague information. What does "serious" diabetic mean? I'm a diabetic. I use insulin and take Metformin. My diabetes is serious but that's not a medical term. I eat anything I want. But in some cases, that might mean only a small bite and only occasionally. If she uses insulin then she might eat the same kind of diet as everyone else or she might not. You'd have to ask her. In general, carbs are what raise blood sugar the most. And fat delays the absorption of carbs. So a little fat in a meal is fine. A lot of fat is not. And no fat is generally not good. Now how many carbs she can safely eat in a meal is up to her, her body and how tightly she controls her blood sugar. You would really have to ask her. There is no one size fits all when it comes to diabetes. I am from the Midwest. I love Mexican food. Some people from the Midwest like BBQ stuff. Again, no one size fits all. |
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![]() "Gary" > wrote in message ... > "U.S. Janet B." wrote: >> >> In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her >> husband. I don't really know either of them. > > Wouldn't your sister-in-law be your brother...oh, maybe your > husband's brother. > > Snipping the rest you said about diabetic menus... You have a > month, I wouldn't try to guess and ask here for recipe ideas. Go > right to her and ask what she can or won't eat. No need to guess > from ideas here. If you will be cooking meals for them, let her > clue you in. > > If they have special nutrition needs, either ask her about that > or just let them visit you without sharing meals. I find that a salad bar that includes meat, cheese and eggs is usually a good idea. Bread on the side for those who eat it. But... It can also create a lot of food waste. And not everyone likes salad. |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2018-05-02, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> Any insight appreciated. > > I don't have diabetes, but have pretty much been on a T2 diabetes > diet. > > Basically, NO SUGARS. That includes most carbs, as most carbs break > down into glucose, a sugar. It's basically an Atkins diet. Low carbs > and sugar. Or do the Paleo diet, which adds zero grains/beans to the > mix. I am a type 2 and that type of diet will push my blood sugar up over 300 for sure. I have to eat carbs. Just not too many carbs. If I am making a casserole, I will always pad it out with something less carby like green beans. > > Also, read those 'ingredients'. Turns out one 4 oz serving of > 'fruit-at-bottom' yogurt has as much sugar as a 12 oz. bottle of > soda. "They" (manufacturers) are now trying to stop the labelling of > "added sugar", much like they've been successfully fighting off GMO > labelling under the guise of preventing increased costs to the > consumer. I find this hilarious, as mfrs change labels several time > per yr, if only to add, "New" and "Improved". Dunno about yogurt as I don't like it or eat it. > You CAN feed 'em all kindsa meats, veggies, and fruits. If I can > survive it, anyone can. BTW, Sunkist 'organic' naval oranges are > specially sweet, this year. I've eaten 4-5 doz, this year (1-2 per > day). My 'minestrone' soup is also very good fer adding veggies to > one's diet (leave out the macaroni). ![]() That's not entirely true about the fruit. Most fruit is pretty high in carbs. Oranges and bananas are probably the worst as is dried fruit. Berries have less carbs per serving than other fruits. |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 5/2/2018 4:07 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >> she has attached insulin pump and glucose monitor. When she is able >> to, she weighs everything. She is religious about what she eats and >> has to be so. I just didn't want to put her in the position of being >> an uncomfortable guest because she had to reject so much of what I >> offered. If I can get a handle on it in advance I don't have to worry >> and she can make easy comfortable choices. >> Janet US >> > > Then it is easy. Just be sure she can be comfortable getting her portions > at the counter or table and she will know what she can have. > > You already know not to put out a big tray of cake and candy. Good chance > she can have a little of the starches but may do a check before she makes > a platter and eats. > > My experience is limited, but I've seen a couple that worry about every > gram they consume and a couple of others that pig out on sweets and figure > they just take a larger dose of insulin. I used to weigh or measure everything. No need now as it's easy to eyeball things. Only time I have trouble is with dishes that someone else prepares such as in a restaurant. Sometimes things like stuffing or a piece of bread can have a lot of added sugar so more carbs than I realize. |
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In article >,
says... > > On Wed, 2 May 2018 12:57:14 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > > >"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message > .. . > >> > >> In a month, a sister-in-law is coming to visit for a week with her > >> husband. I don't really know either of them. > >> She is a serious diabetic since her teen years. I know nothing about > >> feeding a diabetic. I will call her and talk to her, but I need some > >> practical outlook. > >> I can easily do the plain fruits, vegetables and proteins. But, are > >> any sauces allowed, seasonings, combinations of foods. > >> I should mention that they are from the real mid-west, cow and corn > >> country,, therefore most probably very plain food and nothing spicy. > >> They will be staying at a motel so I am assuming they will probably > >> provide their own breakfast (???) don't know. > >> Any insight appreciated. > >> Thanks > >> Janet US > > > > > >Any meat and veggies are fine, best to avoid a whole bunch of starches, but > >anything in moderation should be fine too and I'm pretty sure that she knows > >portion control since she's been diabetic for a long time. Is she a type 1 > >or 2. Is she using insulin? > > > >Cheri > she has attached insulin pump and glucose monitor. When she is able > to, she weighs everything. She is religious about what she eats and > has to be so. I just didn't want to put her in the position of being > an uncomfortable guest because she had to reject so much of what I > offered. If I can get a handle on it in advance I don't have to worry > and she can make easy comfortable choices. > Janet US Diabetics are long used to picking and choosing from someone else's menu. In the fridge keep some standby basics like milk, cheese, eggs, smoked salmon, cooked ham ,plain yoghurt, salads and crackers. Then if she needs to eat at specific times she can just help herself at any time. However you usually serve food at table, for the visit, I suggest you cook plenty of meat or fish and veg then plate up everyone's meal in the kitchen. Invite her to help so she can plate her own meal.That way she selects the right amount of the right food combination and discreetly avoids anything unsuitable. Put water glasses and a jug of iced water on the table so she can avoid other drinks without any fuss. Dessert; cheese, olives, fruit. Janet UK. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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Janet wrote:
> > However you usually serve food at table, for the visit, I suggest you > cook plenty of meat or fish and veg then plate up everyone's meal in the > kitchen. Invite her to help so she can plate her own meal.That way she > selects the right amount of the right food combination and discreetly > avoids anything unsuitable. Whenever I have dinner guests, I leave all in the kitchen then let everyone go in with a plate and put what they want on the plate. That solves many problems. |
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I have a close friend who has the diabetes that came on when she was an adult; she doesn't
seem very restricted on what she eats (we have lunch out once a week), except for foods that contain sugar. She has suggested Mexican food several times, but my tummy doesn't much like Mexican food much any more. One thing I have learned, though, is that it is a good idea to have orange juice on hand in case her system becomes dangerously out of balance. N. |
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Nancy2 wrote:
> I have a close friend who has the diabetes that came on when she was an adult; she doesn't > seem very restricted on what she eats (we have lunch out once a week), except for foods > that contain sugar. She has suggested Mexican food several times, but my tummy doesn't > much like Mexican food much any more. have a salad, they can usually make that fairly plain/tame. songbird |
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On 2018-05-04, songbird > wrote:
> have a salad, they can usually make that fairly plain/tame. Problems is, the salad dressing. Most have oodles of sugar in 'em. How do you think mfrs keep providing alleged "balsamic" vinegar based salad dressings. SUGAR! ![]() nb |
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On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:14:22 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
> On 2018-05-04, songbird > wrote: > > > have a salad, they can usually make that fairly plain/tame. > > Problems is, the salad dressing. Most have oodles of sugar in 'em. > You can usually ask for "oil and vinegar". Some surprisingly modest restaurants have it on hand. Or a wedge of lemon. Or nothing. It's still a salad without any dressing. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Sun, 6 May 2018 07:24:25 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:14:22 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote: >> On 2018-05-04, songbird > wrote: >> >> > have a salad, they can usually make that fairly plain/tame. >> >> Problems is, the salad dressing. Most have oodles of sugar in 'em. >> > >You can usually ask for "oil and vinegar". Some surprisingly modest >restaurants have it on hand. > >Or a wedge of lemon. > >Or nothing. It's still a salad without any dressing. > >Cindy Hamilton or on the side |
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On Sun, 06 May 2018 12:31:17 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Sun, 6 May 2018 07:24:25 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton > wrote: > >>On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 10:14:22 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote: >>> On 2018-05-04, songbird > wrote: >>> >>> > have a salad, they can usually make that fairly plain/tame. >>> >>> Problems is, the salad dressing. Most have oodles of sugar in 'em. >>> >> >>You can usually ask for "oil and vinegar". Some surprisingly modest >>restaurants have it on hand. >> >>Or a wedge of lemon. >> >>Or nothing. It's still a salad without any dressing. >> >>Cindy Hamilton > >or on the side Can also be a fruit salad; various melon balls, assorted berries, orange segments, grapes, etc. . . no dressing needed... maybe a splash of booze/sparkling wine. |
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