I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big problems
with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!


--
http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!

Good thing I rarely use it.

On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>
> Good thing I rarely use it.

Â* Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .

--
Snag
Ain't no dollar sign on
peace of mind - Zac Brown

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 3:30:11 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big problems
> with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>
>
> --
> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk

My last look at silver had it at about $16.+ an ounce.

Sounds like a good deal.

On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>
>
> --
> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk



There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
gloria p

On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
wrote:

>On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>
>>
>> --
>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
>
>
>There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
>have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
>it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>gloria p

For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.
I have enough real vanilla to last the rest of my life, about a quart.
Years ago pure vanilla extract was rather inexpensive so I stocked up
becasue back then with kids around I did a lot of baking and they
loved tapioca pudding. Back then vanilla flavoring left a metalic
after taste but not anymore.

On 2018-05-07 10:44 AM, gloria p wrote:

>
> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
> causing the price to skyrocket.Â* I wonder whether it's true or growers
> have just agreed to raise prices.Â*Â* Vanilla is grown in so many places
> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>

It was discussed her recently. Vanilla prices have been soaring for more
than a year because of a shortage in Madagascar, where 3/4 of the
world's vanilla is produced. It takes three years for an orchid vine to
grow beans, so even if produces planted more crops it will take that
long before the supply increases. The market is very volatile and they
may not be interested in expanding production if they are expecting the
market to crash.

I read an article a couple months ago about the increasing number of
thefts of vanilla beans. Some farmers are picking the beans before they
fully mature because they are afraid that if they leave them to ripen
thieves will grab them.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vanilla...-up-us-prices/

On 2018-05-07 11:04 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>> causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
>> have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>> gloria p
>
> For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
> can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
> real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
> icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.

Slight correction there. You can't taste the difference. Other people can.

On 2018-05-07 8:44 AM, gloria p wrote:
> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>
>>
>> --
>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
>
>
> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
> causing the price to skyrocket.Â* I wonder whether it's true or growers
> have just agreed to raise prices.Â*Â* Vanilla is grown in so many places
> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
> gloria p
>
Read this:
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-deforestation

http://tiny.cc/1n4ety

"Terry Coombs" > wrote in message
news
> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>
>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>
> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding just a
> touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .

It does but I rarely make sweets.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2018-05-07 11:04 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>>> causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
>>> have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
>>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>>> gloria p
>>
>> For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
>> can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
>> real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
>> icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.
>
> Slight correction there. You can't taste the difference. Other people can.

I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
imitation vanilla.

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>
> Good thing I rarely use it.

Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .

===

Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available at your
regular prices!

"gloria p" wrote in message news
On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>
>
> --
> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk



There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
gloria p

==

No idea. I just caught it on the radio.

On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message news >
> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>
>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>
> Â* Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>
> ===
>
> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
> at your
> regular prices!

Â* The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
year or so . By then the situation may have improved .

--
Snag
Ain't no dollar sign on
peace of mind - Zac Brown

On 5/7/2018 9:54 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-05-07 10:44 AM, gloria p wrote:
>
>>
>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>> causing the price to skyrocket.Â* I wonder whether it's true or growers
>> have just agreed to raise prices.Â*Â* Vanilla is grown in so many places
>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>>
>
> It was discussed her recently. Vanilla prices have been soaring for more
> than a year because of a shortage in Madagascar, where 3/4 of the
> world's vanilla is produced. It takes three years for an orchid vine to
> grow beans, so even if produces planted more crops it will take that
> long before the supply increases.Â* The market is very volatile and they
> may not be interested in expanding production if they are expecting the
> market to crash.

We've seen vanilla growing in Thailand, Mexico, and Zanzibar. Any
tropical climate where orchids grow will suit vanilla vines, too.

gloria p

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >
> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>
>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>
> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>
> ===
>
> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
> at your
> regular prices!

The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
year or so . By then the situation may have improved .

==


lol good luck you and yer ol lady <g>

Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>
>> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>
>>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>>
>> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
>> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
>> at your
>> regular prices!
>
> The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>

'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
shit hemorrhage.

On 5/7/2018 4:51 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message news >>>
>>> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>
>>>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>>>
>>> Â* Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
>>> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
>>> at your
>>> regular prices!
>>
>> Â*Â* The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
>> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>>
>
> 'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
> shit hemorrhage.
>
>
Â* That was indeed my intent ... Look y'all , I love my wife very much ,
and she is quite literally one in a million . Keep that in mind no
matter what term I use to refer to her .

--
Snag
Ain't no dollar sign on
peace of mind - Zac Brown

On 2018-05-07 6:18 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:

>> 'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
>> shit hemorrhage.
>>
>>
> Â* That was indeed my intent ... Look y'all , I love my wife very much ,
> and she is quite literally one in a million . Keep that in mind no
> matter what term I use to refer to her .
>


It was a common term of endearment about 40 years ago. At the same time,
women were calling their male partners their old man.


My old man
He's a singer in the park
He's a walker in the rain
He's a dancer in the dark
We don't need no piece of paper
From the city hall
Keeping us tied and true
My old man
Keeping away my blues

Joni Mitchell 1970

On Mon, 7 May 2018 18:23:42 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-05-07 6:18 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
>>> 'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
>>> shit hemorrhage.
>>>
>>>
>> * That was indeed my intent ... Look y'all , I love my wife very much ,
>> and she is quite literally one in a million . Keep that in mind no
>> matter what term I use to refer to her .
>>
>
>
>It was a common term of endearment about 40 years ago. At the same time,
>women were calling their male partners their old man.
>
>
>My old man
>He's a singer in the park
>He's a walker in the rain
>He's a dancer in the dark
>We don't need no piece of paper
> From the city hall
>Keeping us tied and true
>My old man
>Keeping away my blues
>
>Joni Mitchell 1970

Ian Dury - My Old Man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooPVuG8ZbNE

On Mon, 7 May 2018 12:18:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2018-05-07 11:04 AM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>>>> causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
>>>> have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
>>>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>>>> gloria p
>>>
>>> For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
>>> can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
>>> real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
>>> icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.
>>
>> Slight correction there. You can't taste the difference. Other people can.
>
>I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
>they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
>imitation vanilla.

That's because the flavor of imitation vanilla is unaffected by heat
and the flavor of real vanilla is affected.

In article >, says...
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2018-05-07 11:04 AM, wrote:
> >> On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
> >>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
> >>> causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
> >>> have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
> >>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
> >>> gloria p
> >>
> >> For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
> >> can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
> >> real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
> >> icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.
> >
> > Slight correction there. You can't taste the difference. Other people can.
>
> I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
> they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
> imitation vanilla.

You mean, the fake vanilla flavour is unmissable in baked goods made
with fake vanilla.

Janet UK

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On Tue, 8 May 2018 00:23:49 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2018-05-07 11:04 AM, wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>> >>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>> >>> causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
>> >>> have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
>> >>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>> >>> gloria p
>> >>
>> >> For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
>> >> can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
>> >> real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
>> >> icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.
>> >
>> > Slight correction there. You can't taste the difference. Other people can.
>>
>> I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
>> they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
>> imitation vanilla.
>
> You mean, the fake vanilla flavour is unmissable in baked goods made
>with fake vanilla.

Lol. And who knows what fake vanilla's made of. A side product of the
petrochemical industry perhaps.

Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 8 May 2018 00:23:49 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2018-05-07 11:04 AM, wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>>>>>> causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
>>>>>> have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
>>>>>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>>>>>> gloria p
>>>>>
>>>>> For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
>>>>> can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
>>>>> real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
>>>>> icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.
>>>>
>>>> Slight correction there. You can't taste the difference. Other people can.
>>>
>>> I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
>>> they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
>>> imitation vanilla.
>>
>> You mean, the fake vanilla flavour is unmissable in baked goods made
>> with fake vanilla.
>
> Lol. And who knows what fake vanilla's made of. A side product of the
> petrochemical industry perhaps.
>

Perhaps, but *IF* it has exactly the same molecular structure as
vanillin, who cares, even if it was made from a turd dipped in crude oil?

Of course, there are other flavinoids in vanilla, which give it a taste
some can distinguish, but vanillin is the main contributor.

Petroleum is used to synthesize many, many things, because it is a
hydrocarbon and an ideal starting point.

On Mon, 7 May 2018 19:16:23 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 May 2018 00:23:49 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 2018-05-07 11:04 AM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>>>>>>> causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
>>>>>>> have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
>>>>>>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>>>>>>> gloria p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
>>>>>> can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
>>>>>> real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
>>>>>> icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slight correction there. You can't taste the difference. Other people can.
>>>>
>>>> I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
>>>> they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
>>>> imitation vanilla.
>>>
>>> You mean, the fake vanilla flavour is unmissable in baked goods made
>>> with fake vanilla.
>>
>> Lol. And who knows what fake vanilla's made of. A side product of the
>> petrochemical industry perhaps.
>>
>
>Perhaps, but *IF* it has exactly the same molecular structure as
>vanillin, who cares, even if it was made from a turd dipped in crude oil?

So you also don't mind that there's human hair in McDonalds and Burger
King rolls. It's swept up in Chinese barber shops.

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 9:18:13 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
> they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
> imitation vanilla.

I've bought a quart of imitation vanilla flavor because it was dirt cheap. For some reason, I dumped the stuff down the drain. I don't remember why. My guess is that I needed the container.

On 2018-05-07 7:32 PM, Bruce wrote:

>>
>> You mean, the fake vanilla flavour is unmissable in baked goods made
>> with fake vanilla.
>
> Lol. And who knows what fake vanilla's made of. A side product of the
> petrochemical industry perhaps.
>

A lot of it comes from the pulp wood processing. For about a yer I lived
in a small city that had several paper mills and we frequently smelled
vanilla in the air.

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 4:16:44 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> A lot of it comes from the pulp wood processing. For about a yer I lived
> in a small city that had several paper mills and we frequently smelled
> vanilla in the air.

My commute back in the late 80's took me past Everett, Wa. The paper mill operating there put out a unforgettable organic smell. I can still remember how it smelled. It was awful.

"Hank Rogers" wrote in message news
Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>
>> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>
>>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>>
>> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
>> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
>> at your
>> regular prices!
>
> The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>

'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
shit hemorrhage.
==

LOL tough! We call our own people what we want and they can stick their
rules ....

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
On 5/7/2018 4:51 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>>
>>> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>
>>>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>>>
>>> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
>>> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
>>> at your
>>> regular prices!
>>
>> The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
>> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>>
>
> 'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
> shit hemorrhage.
>
>
That was indeed my intent ... Look y'all , I love my wife very much ,
and she is quite literally one in a million . Keep that in mind no
matter what term I use to refer to her .

==

That is obvious and what anyone else thinks is not important)

On Tue, 8 May 2018 07:38:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >
>On 5/7/2018 4:51 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>> On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>>>
>>>> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>>
>>>>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>>>>
>>>> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
>>>> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
>>>> at your
>>>> regular prices!
>>>
>>> The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
>>> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>>>
>>
>> 'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
>> shit hemorrhage.
>>
>>
> That was indeed my intent ... Look y'all , I love my wife very much ,
>and she is quite literally one in a million . Keep that in mind no
>matter what term I use to refer to her .
>
>==
>
>That is obvious and what anyone else thinks is not important)

Bear hug?

On Tue, 8 May 2018 07:37:07 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Hank Rogers" wrote in message news >
>Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>>
>>> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>
>>>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>>>
>>> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
>>> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
>>> at your
>>> regular prices!
>>
>> The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
>> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>>
>
>'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
>shit hemorrhage.
>==
>
>LOL tough! We call our own people what we want and they can stick their
>rules ....

O-phelia, language please!

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 4:16:44 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> A lot of it comes from the pulp wood processing. For about a yer I lived
>> in a small city that had several paper mills and we frequently smelled
>> vanilla in the air.
>
> My commute back in the late 80's took me past Everett, Wa. The paper mill
> operating there put out a unforgettable organic smell. I can still
> remember how it smelled. It was awful.

You got that right! It certainly wasn't vanilla!

On 5/8/2018 1:50 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 8 May 2018 07:38:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>
>> On 5/7/2018 4:51 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>>>>
>>>>> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>>>>> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
>>>>> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
>>>>> at your
>>>>> regular prices!
>>>> The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
>>>> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>>>>
>>> 'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
>>> shit hemorrhage.
>>>
>>>
>> That was indeed my intent ... Look y'all , I love my wife very much ,
>> and she is quite literally one in a million . Keep that in mind no
>> matter what term I use to refer to her .
>>
>> ==
>>
>> That is obvious and what anyone else thinks is not important)
> Bear hug?

Â* Group hug !

--
Snag
Ain't no dollar sign on
peace of mind - Zac Brown

On Tue, 8 May 2018 07:19:09 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 5/8/2018 1:50 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 May 2018 07:38:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>>
>>> On 5/7/2018 4:51 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>> Terry Coombs wrote:

>>>>> The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
>>>>> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>>>>>
>>>> 'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
>>>> shit hemorrhage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That was indeed my intent ... Look y'all , I love my wife very much ,
>>> and she is quite literally one in a million . Keep that in mind no
>>> matter what term I use to refer to her .
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> That is obvious and what anyone else thinks is not important)
>> Bear hug?
>
> * Group hug !

On 5/7/2018 10:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-05-07 7:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Â* You mean, the fake vanilla flavour is unmissable in baked goods made
>>> with fake vanilla.
>>
>> Lol. And who knows what fake vanilla's made of. A side product of the
>> petrochemical industry perhaps.
>>
>
> A lot of it comes from the pulp wood processing. For about a yer I lived
> in a small city that had several paper millsÂ* and we frequently smelled
> vanilla in the air.

Really?! I can remember travelling across the US as a kid and when we'd
drive through an area with pulp mills we had to roll up the car windows.
It stunk to high heaven and certainly did not smell like vanilla.

Jill

On 5/8/2018 6:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/7/2018 10:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-05-07 7:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Â* You mean, the fake vanilla flavour is unmissable in baked goods made
>>>> with fake vanilla.
>>>
>>> Lol. And who knows what fake vanilla's made of. A side product of the
>>> petrochemical industry perhaps.
>>>
>>
>> A lot of it comes from the pulp wood processing. For about a yer I lived
>> in a small city that had several paper millsÂ* and we frequently smelled
>> vanilla in the air.
>
> Really?! I can remember travelling across the US as a kid and when we'd
> drive through an area with pulp mills we had to roll up the car windows.
> It stunk to high heaven and certainly did not smell like vanilla.
>
> Jill
>


The biggest user of fake Vanilla is (or was) sewage treatment plants -
to help mask the smell. Perhaps the pulp mills were doing the same.

On 5/7/2018 10:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>
> A lot of it comes from the pulp wood processing. For about a yer I lived
> in a small city that had several paper millsÂ* and we frequently smelled
> vanilla in the air.

The vanilla is picked up by whiskey and bourbon aged in oak too.

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
On 5/8/2018 1:50 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 8 May 2018 07:38:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>
>> On 5/7/2018 4:51 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/2018 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news >>>>>
>>>>> On 5/7/2018 2:40 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as
>>>>>>> silver!
>>>>>> Good thing I rarely use it.
>>>>> Bummer , we use quite a bit . It seems (to me anyway) that adding
>>>>> just a touch of vanilla enhances many other sweet/fruit/etc flavors .
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Might be a good idea to get what you can while it is still available
>>>>> at your
>>>>> regular prices!
>>>> The 'Ol Lady (!) just bought a bottle big enough to last us about a
>>>> year or so . By then the situation may have improved .
>>>>
>>> 'Ol Lady? Uh-oh, now you've done it! Someone here will surely have a
>>> shit hemorrhage.
>>>
>>>
>> That was indeed my intent ... Look y'all , I love my wife very much ,
>> and she is quite literally one in a million . Keep that in mind no
>> matter what term I use to refer to her .
>>
>> ==
>>
>> That is obvious and what anyone else thinks is not important)
> Bear hug?

Group hug !

==

Ewwe I will leave him to you <g>

On 2018-05-08 8:13 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/7/2018 10:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> A lot of it comes from the pulp wood processing. For about a yer I
>> lived in a small city that had several paper millsÂ* and we frequently
>> smelled vanilla in the air.
>
> The vanilla is picked up by whiskey and bourbon aged in oak too.

In fact, some cheap wines and sherries are made by pumping the juice
through a bag of oak chips.