On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 11:19:29 -0400, wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 21:54:53 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 07:59:01 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>I agree with you Ed, all this speculation about a person nobody here
>>>really knows! I can't believe someone takes that step without really
>>>believing its for the best, therein lies the tragedy for him and all
>>>his family.
>>>
>>>I believe firmly in assisted death but we are still in the early
>>>stages here in Canada, hope we progress to the level of the
>>>Netherlands and Switzerland quickly.
>>
>>Yes. I hope Australia progresses to the level of the Netherlands
>>before I'll ever need it. It's really sick to force people to suffer
>>and then die.
>
>As I've gotten older I've witnessed more and more souls in Hospice, as
>far from pleasant as it gets. I have a neighbor in Hospice now, would
>make as much sense to visit as to visit a morgue.
>A loved one in Hospice just draws out the dying and makes it tougher
>on those left behind.

I agree. All the people who've seen these situations from up close,
are in favour of euthanasia. I never understand people who are against
it.

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 08:42:46 -0600, notbob > wrote:

>On 6/8/2018 7:44 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Notbob, I believe he hung himself, didn't blow his brains out. He may have been depressed; he
>> had been known as a drug user. Too bad he left a young daughter, though. RIP.
>
>I was being "weird" myself when I made that statement. There was only
>one post when I started writing my post. I didn't read about Tony's
>death, as it would only depress me.
>
>My brother OD'd on H, which I believe was a suicide, though he had so
>much to look forward to. I also think he was bipolar, as it was fully
>explained to me by "devil in de blue dress" (what wuz her name?). My
>brother and Anthony had many similarities. I didn't know half the ppl
>that showed up at my brother's wake! (a VERY "compartmentalized" life).
>When I learned Tony had committed suicide, I thought, "No surprise". My
>brother was also about the same age. 8|

We don' t know why Bourdain did it. We also don't know that Bourdain
was still a drug user. We know nuttin!

On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 9:27:10 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>
> I wouldn't try any drug combination on my own. You might end up
> in a hospital bed almost brain dead for years. As far as shooting
> yourself in the head, best to do it outside during a heavy
> downpour to wash away all the mess. Also use a shotgun...much
> more efficient than a single bullet.
>
> And again...tell loved ones beforehand or leave goodbye letters
> to them so they understand why you did this and that should
> really help them heal from the loss. Especially if you do this
> because you are living in contain unbearable pain with no cure in
> sight.

You could try hanging yourself on a door knob. That seems to work swell. What seems to be popular with Asians is making a charcoal fire in a small space. My wife's co-worker found her son dead in a back room of her house. He killed himself using that method. In those cases, suicide is indeed painless.

If I wanted to kill myself, it would be hanging. Getting a hibachi fire going would take me some time. I might be able to hang myself in less than a minute.

On 2018-06-09 3:26 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the police
>> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
>> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
>
> Suggest this too him. Don't call police then shoot himself
> immediately. He might have a serious head wound but not kill
> himself. If they came immediately they might be able to save him
> only to stay alive as a "vegetable" for a long time.
>

We had a local case of attempted suicide by cop. I don't know if it was
him or someone else who made the gun call to the cops. The guy stayed in
his apartment and the cops negotiated with him. He agreed to come out
with his hands up. He came out of the apartment, walked a few steps and
then reached behind his back, pulled out a handgun and fired at the
cops. He hit one in the foot and another in the shoulder. One of the
cops hit him in the head.

His day in court came a month or two ago and he was found to be unfit to
stand trial. The bullet to the head did nit kill him, but it left him
bedridden and brain damaged. If his life sucked when his girlfriend left
him it must suck even more.


A former neighbour was a denturist and once told me about a patient who
needed two front teeth. The guy had tried to commit suicide by
shooting himself in the mouth. Mission not accomplished. Many years
later I met a guy who was helping a friend dig the pond at my next door
neighbour's house. He doesn't do drugs and says he only drinks wine. As
it turned out... lots of wine. After many glasses of wine he told us
about the time he stuck a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger to end
it all and only managed to blow his teeth out.





> I've thought this out myself just in case....
>
> Best to say goodbye to you then send you away for a few days to
> keep you out of suspicion. Then....mail a death letter to the
> police on Saturday night - after the mailman comes and goes on
> saturday, put it in your own mailbox. It will be picked up and
> sent on Monday, so they will come and find him soon enough.
>
> This way, if he chickens out on the suicide and doesn't do it, he
> has until mailman time Monday to take the letter back out of the
> mailbox and not involve the police. That also gives enough time
> to die from a headwound without being saved.
>
> Morbid stuff but it's good to "be prepared." Leaving notes to
> loved ones would be cool too.
> Also....I do think I've read that a few states in the USA allow
> for doctor assisted suicides now. That would be the nicest way -
> guaranteed but not violent or messy.
>

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
15.223...
> On Sat 09 Jun 2018 01:23:40p, Ophelia told us...
>
>>
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As I've gotten older I've witnessed more and more souls in
>>> Hospice, as far from pleasant as it gets. I have a neighbor in
>>> Hospice now, would make as much sense to visit as to visit a
>>> morgue. A loved one in Hospice just draws out the dying and makes
>>> it tougher on those left behind.
>>
>> Big double standard with idiot humans. So wonderful and
>> thoughtful to have our suffering pets put to sleep to end their
>> agony. Our relatives however are forced to suffer to the bitter
>> end until they die on their own.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Yes
>>
>
> I applaud the states that have legalized assisted suicide. I hope I
> don't have to be subjected to some long-suffering and fatal illness
> just because I don't live in one of those states.

It's legal in CA, but a group recently filed a lawsuit trying to do away
with it. Geez, MYOB people and do something constructive for your state.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the police
>> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
>> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
>
> Suggest this too him. Don't call police then shoot himself
> immediately. He might have a serious head wound but not kill
> himself. If they came immediately they might be able to save him
> only to stay alive as a "vegetable" for a long time.

What? Shoot himself and then call the police?

Cheri

In article >, penmart01
@aol.com says...

Cindy said
> >> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the police
> >> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
> >> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >Oh dear. I'm sorry but that sounds horrific.
> >
> >Jill
>
> Odds are the first thing the cops would think is that she shot him.

He could do it while Cindy is elsewhere with plenty of witnesses to
prove she couldn't have done it.

Janet UK

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 17:45:42 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
. 115.223...
>> On Sat 09 Jun 2018 01:23:40p, Ophelia told us...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As I've gotten older I've witnessed more and more souls in
>>>> Hospice, as far from pleasant as it gets. I have a neighbor in
>>>> Hospice now, would make as much sense to visit as to visit a
>>>> morgue. A loved one in Hospice just draws out the dying and makes
>>>> it tougher on those left behind.
>>>
>>> Big double standard with idiot humans. So wonderful and
>>> thoughtful to have our suffering pets put to sleep to end their
>>> agony. Our relatives however are forced to suffer to the bitter
>>> end until they die on their own.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>
>> I applaud the states that have legalized assisted suicide. I hope I
>> don't have to be subjected to some long-suffering and fatal illness
>> just because I don't live in one of those states.
>
>It's legal in CA, but a group recently filed a lawsuit trying to do away
>with it. Geez, MYOB people and do something constructive for your state.
>
>Cheri

All of the things they warn against, old people being done away with
etc. have been proved to be untrue in places like the Netherlands and
Switzerland. I hope we soon get legislation much like them.

On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 22:27:44 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 17:45:42 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
.115.223...
>>> On Sat 09 Jun 2018 01:23:40p, Ophelia told us...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As I've gotten older I've witnessed more and more souls in
>>>>> Hospice, as far from pleasant as it gets. I have a neighbor in
>>>>> Hospice now, would make as much sense to visit as to visit a
>>>>> morgue. A loved one in Hospice just draws out the dying and makes
>>>>> it tougher on those left behind.
>>>>
>>>> Big double standard with idiot humans. So wonderful and
>>>> thoughtful to have our suffering pets put to sleep to end their
>>>> agony. Our relatives however are forced to suffer to the bitter
>>>> end until they die on their own.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>
>>> I applaud the states that have legalized assisted suicide. I hope I
>>> don't have to be subjected to some long-suffering and fatal illness
>>> just because I don't live in one of those states.
>>
>>It's legal in CA, but a group recently filed a lawsuit trying to do away
>>with it. Geez, MYOB people and do something constructive for your state.
>>
>>Cheri
>
>All of the things they warn against, old people being done away with
>etc. have been proved to be untrue in places like the Netherlands and
>Switzerland. I hope we soon get legislation much like them.

Yes, people who prefer to suffer until the very end, still have that
option.

On 6/9/2018 9:00 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, penmart01
> @aol.com says...
>
> Cindy said
>>>> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the police
>>>> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
>>>> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> Oh dear. I'm sorry but that sounds horrific.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Odds are the first thing the cops would think is that she shot him.
>
> He could do it while Cindy is elsewhere with plenty of witnesses to
> prove she couldn't have done it.
>
> Janet UK
>

They do a simple test for gun powder residue. They apply a chemical to
your arm and it will show it up if you are the shooter.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/9/2018 9:00 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, penmart01
>> @aol.com says...
>>
>> Cindy said
>>>>> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the police
>>>>> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
>>>>> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> Oh dear. I'm sorry but that sounds horrific.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Odds are the first thing the cops would think is that she shot him.
>>
>> He could do it while Cindy is elsewhere with plenty of witnesses to
>> prove she couldn't have done it.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>
> They do a simple test for gun powder residue. They apply a chemical to
> your arm and it will show it up if you are the shooter.


Well, it wouldn't be a problem for us, my dh would be at McDonald's talking
nasty trash about women to his coffee buddies doncha know (shout out to Gary
here) so there would be lots of witnesses that he wasn't around when his
sexless old biddy wife was offed. ;-)

Cheri

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:38:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>> On 6/9/2018 9:00 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, penmart01
>>> @aol.com says...
>>>
>>> Cindy said
>>>>>> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the police
>>>>>> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
>>>>>> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear. I'm sorry but that sounds horrific.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Odds are the first thing the cops would think is that she shot him.
>>>
>>> He could do it while Cindy is elsewhere with plenty of witnesses to
>>> prove she couldn't have done it.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>
>> They do a simple test for gun powder residue. They apply a chemical to
>> your arm and it will show it up if you are the shooter.
>
>
>Well, it wouldn't be a problem for us, my dh would be at McDonald's talking
>nasty trash about women to his coffee buddies doncha know (shout out to Gary
>here) so there would be lots of witnesses that he wasn't around when his
>sexless old biddy wife was offed. ;-)

There's only one real biddy in rfc and it ain't you.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 9:27:10 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>
> I wouldn't try any drug combination on my own. You might end up
> in a hospital bed almost brain dead for years. As far as shooting
> yourself in the head, best to do it outside during a heavy
> downpour to wash away all the mess. Also use a shotgun...much
> more efficient than a single bullet.
>
> And again...tell loved ones beforehand or leave goodbye letters
> to them so they understand why you did this and that should
> really help them heal from the loss. Especially if you do this
> because you are living in contain unbearable pain with no cure in
> sight.

You could try hanging yourself on a door knob. That seems to work swell.
What seems to be popular with Asians is making a charcoal fire in a small
space. My wife's co-worker found her son dead in a back room of her house.
He killed himself using that method. In those cases, suicide is indeed
painless.

If I wanted to kill myself, it would be hanging. Getting a hibachi fire
going would take me some time. I might be able to hang myself in less than a
minute.

==

I like the Hibachi method better. I suspect one would just go to sleep and
....

On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I like the Hibachi method better. I suspect one would just go to sleep and
> ...

HEY WAKE UP!

As an added bonus, you can cook your favorite last meal.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I like the Hibachi method better. I suspect one would just go to sleep
> and
> ...

HEY WAKE UP!

As an added bonus, you can cook your favorite last meal.

==

LOL sounds pretty good to me)

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:09:21 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > I like the Hibachi method better. I suspect one would just go to sleep
> > and
> > ...
>
> HEY WAKE UP!
>
> As an added bonus, you can cook your favorite last meal.
>
> ==
>
> LOL sounds pretty good to me)

I guess that depends on what you're cooking.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:09:21 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > I like the Hibachi method better. I suspect one would just go to sleep
> > and
> > ...
>
> HEY WAKE UP!
>
> As an added bonus, you can cook your favorite last meal.
>
> ==
>
> LOL sounds pretty good to me)

I guess that depends on what you're cooking.
==

Well in that situation, you could choose whatever you like) Nobody else
to please!

On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 3:22:20 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > My husband is in chronic pain, and opioids don't help much.
> > He's talked about committing suicide should the pain increase.
> > I said, "Do what you have to do." He's neither a coward nor
> > a wimp.
>
> So sorry to hear this Cindy. If his problem is terminal (only
> going to get worse) I agree with both of you. Hopefully he will
> let you know if it ever does come to that. At that time, to save
> yourself some legal trouble, take a trip with a friend or
> relative so you have a solid alibi that you weren't anywhere near
> him when this happens.

It's quite likely that I'll be at work.

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:09:21 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > > I like the Hibachi method better. I suspect one would just go to sleep
> > > and
> > > ...
> >
> > HEY WAKE UP!
> >
> > As an added bonus, you can cook your favorite last meal.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > LOL sounds pretty good to me)
>
> I guess that depends on what you're cooking.
> ==
>
> Well in that situation, you could choose whatever you like) Nobody else
> to please!

No worries about carbs or calories either.
Also..."Give me a bottle of your best whiskey, MissKitty." ;-D

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:09:21 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > > I like the Hibachi method better. I suspect one would just go to
> > > sleep
> > > and
> > > ...
> >
> > HEY WAKE UP!
> >
> > As an added bonus, you can cook your favorite last meal.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > LOL sounds pretty good to me)
>
> I guess that depends on what you're cooking.
> ==
>
> Well in that situation, you could choose whatever you like) Nobody else
> to please!

No worries about carbs or calories either.
Also..."Give me a bottle of your best whiskey, MissKitty." ;-D

==

Ooh yes. I had forgotten about the carbs and calories <g>

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
> No worries about carbs or calories either.
> Also..."Give me a bottle of your best whiskey, MissKitty." ;-D
>
> ==
>
> Ooh yes. I had forgotten about the carbs and calories <g>

I'd like to forget them.

Cheri

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 5:00:35 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:36:25 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:32:27 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I had a late start this morning and was surprised that no one else
>> >> >had
>> >> >posted about the death of Anthony Bourdain.... by suicide. What a
>> >> >tragedy. He was a very interesting guy.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/an...bit/index.html
>> >>
>> >> That is unexpected. From an outsider's perspective, it seemed he had
>> >> it all figured out.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >It wasn't on this morning's news but will probably be on this
>> >evening's news. That is a shock to me. I suspect though that this
>> >probably wasn't a "depression suicide." I suspect he might have
>> >had some terminal health problem and he decided to end it quickly
>> >rather than some lingering death. If that's the case, I'm with
>> >him. Quality of life over quantity.
>>
>> Charles Krauthammer's doctors gave him three weeks to live (an
>> agressive form ofcancer), Charles, a Psychiatrist, MD) likely thinks
>> Anthony is a stupid douchebag and I have to agree. Life is too short
>> as it is, only an uncaring shallow brained moroon makes it shorter.
>> I have no pity for anyone who commits suicide, and they deserve no
>> pity for leaving their family and friends with that horrendous burdon.
>> Anthony Bourdain lived his life as a sspineless coward and deserves an
>> unmarked grave. If only there was some way that Krauthammer could
>> have claimed Burdain's unlived life. . . .
>> Let's all erase Anthony Burdain's name from our memory... the useless
>> putz left a young child to suffer the rest of her life with a heart
>> breaking memory. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PITY FOR "WHAT'S HIS NAME".
>
> My husband is in chronic pain, and opioids don't help much.
> He's talked about committing suicide should the pain increase.
> I said, "Do what you have to do." He's neither a coward nor
> a wimp.
>


CBD oil is a miracle and it has no addictive properties or hallucinogenic
effects.



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
news
> CBD oil is a miracle and it has no addictive properties or hallucinogenic
> effects.

Yes it is! I have no use for THC, but CBD is wonderful.

Cheri

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 10:38:08 AM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 5:00:35 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:36:25 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:32:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I had a late start this morning and was surprised that no one else
> >> >> >had
> >> >> >posted about the death of Anthony Bourdain.... by suicide. What a
> >> >> >tragedy. He was a very interesting guy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/an...bit/index.html
> >> >>
> >> >> That is unexpected. From an outsider's perspective, it seemed he had
> >> >> it all figured out.
> >> >> Janet US
> >> >
> >> >It wasn't on this morning's news but will probably be on this
> >> >evening's news. That is a shock to me. I suspect though that this
> >> >probably wasn't a "depression suicide." I suspect he might have
> >> >had some terminal health problem and he decided to end it quickly
> >> >rather than some lingering death. If that's the case, I'm with
> >> >him. Quality of life over quantity.
> >>
> >> Charles Krauthammer's doctors gave him three weeks to live (an
> >> agressive form ofcancer), Charles, a Psychiatrist, MD) likely thinks
> >> Anthony is a stupid douchebag and I have to agree. Life is too short
> >> as it is, only an uncaring shallow brained moroon makes it shorter.
> >> I have no pity for anyone who commits suicide, and they deserve no
> >> pity for leaving their family and friends with that horrendous burdon.
> >> Anthony Bourdain lived his life as a sspineless coward and deserves an
> >> unmarked grave. If only there was some way that Krauthammer could
> >> have claimed Burdain's unlived life. . . .
> >> Let's all erase Anthony Burdain's name from our memory... the useless
> >> putz left a young child to suffer the rest of her life with a heart
> >> breaking memory. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PITY FOR "WHAT'S HIS NAME".
> >
> > My husband is in chronic pain, and opioids don't help much.
> > He's talked about committing suicide should the pain increase.
> > I said, "Do what you have to do." He's neither a coward nor
> > a wimp.
> >
>
>
> CBD oil is a miracle and it has no addictive properties or hallucinogenic
> effects.

Thanks for the recommendation. He'll probably try it after he retires.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2018-06-10 11:02 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> news >
>> CBD oil is a miracle and it has no addictive properties or
>> hallucinogenic effects.
>
> Yes it is! I have no use for THC, but CBD is wonderful.
>
>

I have been hearing that from a number of people lately. Someone was
going to bring some to try out.

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
> No worries about carbs or calories either.
> Also..."Give me a bottle of your best whiskey, MissKitty." ;-D
>
> ==
>
> Ooh yes. I had forgotten about the carbs and calories <g>

I'd like to forget them.

Cheri

==

Oh yes, that would be very GOOD if we could do that))

lol

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:00:18 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, penmart01
says...
>
>Cindy said
>> >> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the police
>> >> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
>> >> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >Oh dear. I'm sorry but that sounds horrific.
>> >
>> >Jill
>>
>> Odds are the first thing the cops would think is that she shot him.
>
> He could do it while Cindy is elsewhere with plenty of witnesses to
>prove she couldn't have done it.
>
>Janet UK

I said "The first thing the cops would think". And perhaps the
thought never occured to make sure she's far away with friends. If
she's at a neighbor's house around the corner she'd be in deep
doodoo.

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 2:45:35 PM UTC-4, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 09 Jun 2018 03:49:13a, Cindy Hamilton told us...
>
> > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 5:00:35 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:36:25 -0400, Gary >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:32:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I had a late start this morning and was surprised that no one
> >> >> >else had posted about the death of Anthony Bourdain.... by
> >> >> >suicide. What a tragedy. He was a very interesting guy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/an...ain-obit/index.
> >> >> >html
> >> >>
> >> >> That is unexpected. From an outsider's perspective, it seemed
> >> >> he had it all figured out.
> >> >> Janet US
> >> >
> >> >It wasn't on this morning's news but will probably be on this
> >> >evening's news. That is a shock to me. I suspect though that
> >> >this probably wasn't a "depression suicide." I suspect he might
> >> >have had some terminal health problem and he decided to end it
> >> >quickly rather than some lingering death. If that's the case,
> >> >I'm with him. Quality of life over quantity.
> >>
> >> Charles Krauthammer's doctors gave him three weeks to live (an
> >> agressive form ofcancer), Charles, a Psychiatrist, MD) likely
> >> thinks Anthony is a stupid douchebag and I have to agree. Life
> >> is too short as it is, only an uncaring shallow brained moroon
> >> makes it shorter. I have no pity for anyone who commits suicide,
> >> and they deserve no pity for leaving their family and friends
> >> with that horrendous burdon. Anthony Bourdain lived his life as a
> >> sspineless coward and deserves an unmarked grave. If only there
> >> was some way that Krauthammer could have claimed Burdain's
> >> unlived life. . . . Let's all erase Anthony Burdain's name from
> >> our memory... the useless putz left a young child to suffer the
> >> rest of her life with a heart breaking memory. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY
> >> NO PITY FOR "WHAT'S HIS NAME".
> >
> > My husband is in chronic pain, and opioids don't help much.
> > He's talked about committing suicide should the pain increase.
> > I said, "Do what you have to do." He's neither a coward nor
> > a wimp.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> Has your husband ever been prescribed Fentanyl? My pain management
> doctor precribes the Fentanyl patches to treat my chronic back pain
> and I'mamazed how much it has improved. We tried opoids like
> oxycodone and oxycontin but they were totally ineffective.

He's a little reluctant to take anything that might affect his
ability to do his job. Generally he just bulls through the pain
and collapses in the evening.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:19:31 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:00:18 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>>In article >, penmart01
says...
>>
>>Cindy said
>>> >> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the police
>>> >> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
>>> >> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>>> >>
>>> >Oh dear. I'm sorry but that sounds horrific.
>>> >
>>> >Jill
>>>
>>> Odds are the first thing the cops would think is that she shot him.
>>
>> He could do it while Cindy is elsewhere with plenty of witnesses to
>>prove she couldn't have done it.
>>
>>Janet UK
>
>I said "The first thing the cops would think". And perhaps the
>thought never occured to make sure she's far away with friends. If
>she's at a neighbor's house around the corner she'd be in deep
> doodoo.

No, she wouldn't be. They can tell. Get your head out of the 1850s.

On 6/10/2018 12:45 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> My pain management doctor precribes the Fentanyl patches to treat my chronic back pain
> and I'mamazed how much it has improved. We tried opoids like
> oxycodone and oxycontin but they were totally ineffective.

What the heck do you think Fentanyl is!?

"Fentanyl, also spelled fentanil, is an opioid....."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl

Not using any kindsa nose candy (or opiates), I've heard Fentanyl is
"100X stronger" than real heroin and is responsible for an drastic
increase in OD deaths. They don't offer it in suckers, mouth sprays,
and patches cuz it's a wimpy drug! It's killing stupid ppl! 8|

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqZDbBl6qp0

mb

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:19:31 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:00:18 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>>In article >, penmart01
says...
>>>
>>>Cindy said
>>>> >> Last I heard, his plan was to go out in the back yard, call the
>>>> >> police
>>>> >> to report himself as a dead body, and shoot himself immediately. So
>>>> >> I wouldn't have to find him afterward.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>>>> >>
>>>> >Oh dear. I'm sorry but that sounds horrific.
>>>> >
>>>> >Jill
>>>>
>>>> Odds are the first thing the cops would think is that she shot him.
>>>
>>> He could do it while Cindy is elsewhere with plenty of witnesses to
>>>prove she couldn't have done it.
>>>
>>>Janet UK
>>
>>I said "The first thing the cops would think". And perhaps the
>>thought never occured to make sure she's far away with friends. If
>>she's at a neighbor's house around the corner she'd be in deep
>> doodoo.
>
> No, she wouldn't be. They can tell. Get your head out of the 1850s.


Truly. Sheldon is going on the way forensics were from his birth year.

Cheri

On 6/10/2018 8:47 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> It's' too bad that you seldom know what you're talking about and are
> always spouting half-truths.

Apparently, I struck a nerve.

I'm truly sorry so many ppl have died from Fentanyl overdoses, while you
have lived. My deepest apologies for "spouting half-truths".

nb

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 00:32:21 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 10:49:16 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I do think if you plan to commit suicide you should at least do it in a
>> manner which isn't gruesome.
>
>Burlap bag over the head before you shoot yourself.
>
>It's kinda hard to hang yourself properly, rather than just
>suffocating slowly. But French hotels usually have high ceilings.
>And guns are hard to come by in France.
>
>-sw

It's fairly simple to overdose on OTC meds, swallow like 100 Advil
taken with a pint of gin and get into bed... fall asleep and never
wake up. My SIL did that.

On 2018-06-11 9:26 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 6/10/2018 8:47 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> It's' too bad that you seldom know what you're talking about and are
>> always spouting half-truths.
>
> Apparently, I struck a nerve.
>
> I'm truly sorry so many ppl have died from Fentanyl overdoses, while you
> have lived.Â* My deepest apologies for "spouting half-truths".Â*Â*
>

That rant sort of surprised me. Fentanyl has been implicated in
thousands overdose deaths. The information I have seen estimates it to
be 50-100 times more powerful than heroin. One of the reasons for the
skin patches is that it is absorbed more slowly through the skin. There
is no doubt that it is pretty effective at controlling pain, but it is
extremely dangerous stuff.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:26:12 -0600, notbob > wrote:

>On 6/10/2018 8:47 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> It's' too bad that you seldom know what you're talking about and are
>> always spouting half-truths.
>
>Apparently, I struck a nerve.
>
>I'm truly sorry so many ppl have died from Fentanyl overdoses, while you
>have lived. My deepest apologies for "spouting half-truths".
>
>nb

NB it is oranges and lemons. Those dying of Fentanyl overdoses are
doing so from street drugs. These are not made by big pharma, they
are made in sheds and they illustrated on tv how it is done. The
dealer receives the Fentanyl in an envelope. There is a pill making
device and he then mixes the F with another chemical. Sadly when they
examined the result, some of those pills had five grains of Fentanyl
in them, others 10. They all looked alike so it became clear, one
gambles with death when one swallows those street drugs. My daughter
has Fentanyl patches at the moment because she just had her hip
replaced, she finds them good.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:26:12 -0600, notbob > wrote:

>On 6/10/2018 8:47 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> It's' too bad that you seldom know what you're talking about and are
>> always spouting half-truths.
>
>Apparently, I struck a nerve.
>
>I'm truly sorry so many ppl have died from Fentanyl overdoses, while you
>have lived. My deepest apologies for "spouting half-truths".
>
>nb

Not to concern yourself NotBob. the pinocchio nosed Fagwright has
never once told any truth about anything.

wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:26:12 -0600, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 6/10/2018 8:47 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >
> >> It's' too bad that you seldom know what you're talking about and
> are >> always spouting half-truths.
> >
> > Apparently, I struck a nerve.
> >
> > I'm truly sorry so many ppl have died from Fentanyl overdoses,
> > while you have lived. My deepest apologies for "spouting
> > half-truths".
> >
> > nb
>
> NB it is oranges and lemons. Those dying of Fentanyl overdoses are
> doing so from street drugs. These are not made by big pharma, they
> are made in sheds and they illustrated on tv how it is done. The
> dealer receives the Fentanyl in an envelope. There is a pill making
> device and he then mixes the F with another chemical. Sadly when they
> examined the result, some of those pills had five grains of Fentanyl
> in them, others 10. They all looked alike so it became clear, one
> gambles with death when one swallows those street drugs. My daughter
> has Fentanyl patches at the moment because she just had her hip
> replaced, she finds them good.

Correct. Pain medications used *appropriately* and based on level of
pain, do not even make you 'high' in any normal sense.

On 6/12/2018 6:04 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> He did a show on Vietnam....

He's done a couple shows on Vietnam. He always claimed he wanted to
live there, that he really loved that country. I'm sorry he checked out
before he realized his dream. 8|

nb

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 10:38:08 AM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 5:00:35 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:36:25 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:32:27 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I had a late start this morning and was surprised that no one else
>> >> >> >had
>> >> >> >posted about the death of Anthony Bourdain.... by suicide. What a
>> >> >> >tragedy. He was a very interesting guy.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/an...bit/index.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That is unexpected. From an outsider's perspective, it seemed he
>> >> >> had
>> >> >> it all figured out.
>> >> >> Janet US
>> >> >
>> >> >It wasn't on this morning's news but will probably be on this
>> >> >evening's news. That is a shock to me. I suspect though that this
>> >> >probably wasn't a "depression suicide." I suspect he might have
>> >> >had some terminal health problem and he decided to end it quickly
>> >> >rather than some lingering death. If that's the case, I'm with
>> >> >him. Quality of life over quantity.
>> >>
>> >> Charles Krauthammer's doctors gave him three weeks to live (an
>> >> agressive form ofcancer), Charles, a Psychiatrist, MD) likely thinks
>> >> Anthony is a stupid douchebag and I have to agree. Life is too short
>> >> as it is, only an uncaring shallow brained moroon makes it shorter.
>> >> I have no pity for anyone who commits suicide, and they deserve no
>> >> pity for leaving their family and friends with that horrendous burdon.
>> >> Anthony Bourdain lived his life as a sspineless coward and deserves an
>> >> unmarked grave. If only there was some way that Krauthammer could
>> >> have claimed Burdain's unlived life. . . .
>> >> Let's all erase Anthony Burdain's name from our memory... the useless
>> >> putz left a young child to suffer the rest of her life with a heart
>> >> breaking memory. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PITY FOR "WHAT'S HIS NAME".
>> >
>> > My husband is in chronic pain, and opioids don't help much.
>> > He's talked about committing suicide should the pain increase.
>> > I said, "Do what you have to do." He's neither a coward nor
>> > a wimp.
>> >
>>
>>
>> CBD oil is a miracle and it has no addictive properties or hallucinogenic
>> effects.
>
> Thanks for the recommendation. He'll probably try it after he retires.
>

Why wait? Other than relieving pain it has no affect. You can drive and
even run a bulldozer while taking it. You have to get over the taste. It
does not taste very good.



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>
> Why wait? Other than relieving pain it has no affect. You can drive and
> even run a bulldozer while taking it. You have to get over the taste. It
> does not taste very good.
>
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My friend has been using that hemp oil. He fell down on the job and has been using it for his injuries. I shall inquire on it's effectiveness.

I fell down in the kitchen yesterday. It created a big knot in my ankle a bump on my knee. I took a couple of ibuprofens and sprayed my leg down with some very hot water and went to bed. I was surprised when I woke up a short time later and found that the big lumps had gone down dramatically. This morning when I woke up the bumps were gone. It is most remarkable. I have some pain in the ankle but that will take a while to heal.