On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 19:12:03 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/28/2018 10:24 PM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 5:47:52 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>>
>>> It started with the question why there are no blacks in Jill's gated
>>> community (if that's actually true). Maybe because they don't want to
>>> move to an all white neighbourhood, just like whites might not want to
>>> move to an all black neighbourhood.
>>>
>>>
>> Hmmmmmmmmm, I know several blacks who will only live in all white neighbor-
>> hoods.
>>
>The assumption there are no blacks living in my community is completely
>false. And just to be crystal clear, before I moved here I lived in an
>neighborhood where at least 50% of my neighbors were black. It's a
>bunch of racist BS that doesn't belong in this or any other discussion
>on RFC.

Calm down. Mentioning race or skin colour isn't racist by definition.
It completely depends on the context.

Sheldon wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:35:49 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >On 6/28/2018 10:24 PM, wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 5:47:52 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It started with the question why there are no blacks in Jill's gated
> >>> community (if that's actually true). Maybe because they don't want to
> >>> move to an all white neighbourhood, just like whites might not want to
> >>> move to an all black neighbourhood.
> >>>
> >> Hmmmmmmmmm, I know several blacks who will only live in all white neighbor-
> >> hoods.
> >>
> >Impossible, once they move it it won't be all white.
>
> However then the whites will move out and blacks will move in... and
> the cycle continues.


In Chicawgo, even many *blacks* want to flee "black neighborhoods"...they are sick of the low - rents, gangbangers, crime, and the genaral miasma of squalor...

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...ation-Problem/

The Real Problem with Chicagos Shrinking Population

Recent Census numbers arent as bad as they sound€”except for one major factor. Since 1980, Chicago has lost more than a quarter of its black population.
BY DAVID MENDELL

Scaremongers have been honking at a fever pitch ever since the U.S. Census Bureau released data in March showing a second year of declining population for the Chicago area. €œDepopulation is killing this city, and its all self-inflicted,€� tweeted Dominic Lynch, a contributor to Chicagoly. Curbed Chicago posted an open thread asking readers to comment on whether they planned to bolt, too. And an op-ed in the Tribune by a guest columnist went so far as to suggest the city should annex inner-ring suburbs to boost its slumping tax base.

Meanwhile, politicians and advocates clamored to assign blame for the decline to pet causes. Governor Bruce Rauner excoriated Democrats, of course: Taxes are too high, schools are too crummy, and politicians serve for too long, he said through a spokesperson. The nonprofit Everytown for Gun Safety attributed the drop to violence. Twitter user @jetdog asked: €œIs this because President Trump says its a horrible place?€�

Well, not so fast.

€œIts all overplayed,€� says Rob Paral, a public policy analyst known as the Chicago Data Guy. €œIn a major city of 2.7 million people, the decline is really quite small. The sky is not falling.€�

This much is true: The Chicago metro area lost 19,570 people in 2016, according to Census Bureau estimates€”the largest drop of any metro area in the country. And yes, its the second straight year of decline.

But Paral reminds us that this is out of a whopping 9.5 million residents€”a mere 0.2 percent dip. He calls the Chicago area a €œhuge chessboard€� with pieces constantly moving on and off it.

So where the headlines imply a gush, analysts see a trickle. And as for the reasons behind the drop? Theyre more complicated than the knee-jerk reactions suggest. €œThe tax argument is really a canard,€� Paral says. €œKansas has slashed taxes, and they are losing population.€� And while many armchair quarterbacks rushed to blame the exodus on last years surge in murders, its too soon for people to have picked up their lives in response to that.

Things get interesting€”and alarming€”when you look at who is leaving. €œThe white population is not falling, and the Latino and Asian populations are slightly growing,€� says Paral. €œThe big factor that is altering Chicagos population is the change among blacks.€�

Since the early 80s, blacks in South and West Side neighborhoods have been steadily leaving the city, resettling at first largely in the Cook County suburbs. But over the past 15 years, more and more have been leaving the area entirely for northwest Indiana, Iowas Quad Cities, and Sun Belt states, says Alden Loury, the director of research and evaluation at the Metropolitan Planning Council. Today there are roughly 850,000 blacks in Chicago, down from 1.2 million in 1980.

The reasons for this are varied: The foreclosure crisis saw blacks evicted disproportionately from their rental apartments and houses; the Chicago Housing Authority leveled high-rises like the Robert Taylor Homes, scattering public housing residents; the lack of stable employment in South and West Side neighborhoods continues to force residents to look elsewhere for jobs; and school closures further disenfranchise communities. €œThere are not a lot of messages that Chicago cares about its black residents,€� says Mary Pattillo, a sociology and African American studies professor at Northwestern University and author of the book Black Picket Fences. €œWhen you lose the institutions that cultivate attachment, it makes it a lot easier to pick up and leave.€�

Quan Webster, 48, is among the more than 5,700 blacks who relocated from Cook County to Indiana between 2012 and 2014, the most recent period for which migration data is available. His motivation? The Englewood native, who had previously moved to south suburban Lynwood, could afford to build a new house in Merrillville while reducing his tax burden. (And he can still commute to Chicago for his job as a photojournalist at NBC-5.)

€œI couldnt have this size house in Illinois,€� Webster says, adding that safety was another factor. (His brother was murdered in the city in the 80s.) €œThe people here look out for their neighborhoods. Our kids werent hanging out at the liquor store doing stupid stuff. They were going to school or to practice. They arent hanging out on the corner. Aint no corners out here.€�

Thats great for Webster and his family. But on a larger level, the migration of blacks out of the Chicago area is cause for concern. Quality of life often declines in neighborhoods and suburbs that struggle to maintain population, says Daniel Kay Hertz, an urban planning expert and senior policy analyst for the Chicago-based Center for Tax and Budget Accountability. €œIt can be harder to maintain commercial districts. It makes it really hard for property values to recover.€�

And then theres the social toll. Chicago may be a largely segregated city, but it has long prided itself on its diversity. As blacks take flight, Pattillo says, that shifts Chicagos role nationally as a center of African American culture, one that gave rise to everything from the blues to the first black president. €œIt doesnt mean there wont be black creativity or black economic development,€� she says. €œIts just going to happen somewhere else...€�

[...]

Druce wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> >The assumption there are no blacks living in my community is completely
> >false. And just to be crystal clear, before I moved here I lived in an
> >neighborhood where at least 50% of my neighbors were black. It's a
> >bunch of racist BS that doesn't belong in this or any other discussion
> >on RFC.
>
> Calm down. Mentioning race or skin colour isn't racist by definition.
> It completely depends on the context.

If humans (as a species) live long enough (doubtful) we'll all
intermarry over time, have kids that intermarry and eventually
there will be no racist distinction. We'll all be mutts. More
likely, humans will become extinct and the earth will be ruled by
ants.

On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 07:21:41 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Druce wrote:
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >The assumption there are no blacks living in my community is completely
>> >false. And just to be crystal clear, before I moved here I lived in an
>> >neighborhood where at least 50% of my neighbors were black. It's a
>> >bunch of racist BS that doesn't belong in this or any other discussion
>> >on RFC.
>>
>> Calm down. Mentioning race or skin colour isn't racist by definition.
>> It completely depends on the context.
>
>If humans (as a species) live long enough (doubtful) we'll all
>intermarry over time, have kids that intermarry and eventually
>there will be no racist distinction. We'll all be mutts.

It's like when you mix different colours of paints. White paint is the
first one to disappear.

On 6/29/2018 7:32 PM, GM wrote:


>
>
> In Chicawgo, even many *blacks* want to flee "black neighborhoods"...they are sick of the low - rents, gangbangers, crime, and the genaral miasma of squalor...
>
> http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...ation-Problem/
>
> The Real Problem with Chicagos Shrinking Population
>

With 1380 shootings this year so far I can see them bailing out
https://heyjackass.com/home/

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...

> I actually like Chicago but unless you know where to avoid, it can be
> risky turning down the wrong street these days. Chicago reminds me of New
> York , but with manners.


My daughter and one of my granddaughters live there, they love it except my
daughter is getting older now and doesn't care much for snow shoveling.

Cheri

On 2018-06-30 11:24 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> In Chicawgo, even many *blacks* want to flee "black
>> neighborhoods"...they are sick of the low - rents, gangbangers, crime,
>> and the genaral miasma of squalor...
>>
>> http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...ation-Problem/
>>
>>
>> The Real Problem with Chicagos Shrinking Population
>>
>
> With 1380 shootings this year so far I can see them bailing out
> https://heyjackass.com/home/


A couple years ago my wife and son went to Chicago to attend a family
funeral. She wanted to go and visit the area where her father had grown
up at the turn of the previous century...... Englewood. My son refused
to take here there. There were 44 shootings in Chicago the weekend there.

There is a definite drop in the population of Englewood. There were
almost 100,000 people living there in 1960 but is has dropped to about
1/4 of that. The population is 95% black.

Detroit has seen similar urban decay. It hit its peak population in the
60s with about 1.8 million people and is now down to about 1/3 of that.
The racial make up has changed. More than 98% of the population was
white in 1910. It is now about 10% white and 85% black.

On 6/30/2018 3:23 PM, GM wrote:

>> I actually like Chicago but unless you know where to avoid, it can be
>> risky turning down the wrong street these days. Chicago reminds me of
>> New York , but with manners.
>
>
> Well, Ed, "We'll always have St. Louis..." You will enjoy this, it is NOT a parody:
>
> http://www.thewhirlonline.com/taxonomy/term/149
>
We live in a wonderful society

On 6/30/2018 3:59 PM, Druce wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 14:06:52 -0400, wrote:

>> There are
>> several cities in Connecticut I'd steer clear of. The toll collectors
>> on the CT Turnpike were the nastiest I encountered anywhere.
>
> There are bad neighbourhoods in all big cities, but I have seen
> footage from US cities that you'd only expect in 3rd world countries.
> I wouldn't just let that go on. I'd send in the army if I had to.
>

Sheldon complained so the state removed the toll booths just so there
would be no nasty collectors.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/30/2018 3:59 PM, Druce wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 14:06:52 -0400, wrote:
>
>>> There are
>>> several cities in Connecticut I'd steer clear of. The toll collectors
>>> on the CT Turnpike were the nastiest I encountered anywhere.
>>
>> There are bad neighbourhoods in all big cities, but I have seen
>> footage from US cities that you'd only expect in 3rd world countries.
>> I wouldn't just let that go on. I'd send in the army if I had to.
>>
>
> Sheldon complained so the state removed the toll booths just so there
> would be no nasty collectors.

Those collectors would have to be saints to be able to ignore the
nastiness he dishes out.

Toll man: "That'll be $2 Popeye".

Popeye: *FAGGOT* !!!!

On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:46:19 -0400, wrote:

snip
>
>In my popeye suit NYC toll collecters were happy to take my toll in
>freshly baked sticky buns... but not the badass CT toll collecters.
>Back in the '60s, in uniform, my money was no good at any
>bar/restaurant, movie, etc. in NYC. Even the NYC hookers gave sailors
>freebies. Jamaican wimmens were hot, anything a white sailor wanted
>to give them a light skinned child/chile. I musta made a dozen.

I bet the hookers were giving out 'freebies.' But Navy fixed it with
a couple of shots, right?

U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:46:19 -0400, wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>> In my popeye suit NYC toll collecters were happy to take my toll in
>> freshly baked sticky buns... but not the badass CT toll collecters.
>> Back in the '60s, in uniform, my money was no good at any
>> bar/restaurant, movie, etc. in NYC. Even the NYC hookers gave sailors
>> freebies. Jamaican wimmens were hot, anything a white sailor wanted
>> to give them a light skinned child/chile. I musta made a dozen.
>
> I bet the hookers were giving out 'freebies.' But Navy fixed it with
> a couple of shots, right?
>

He's probably just making up stories.

In article >,
dsi1 > wrote:

> "Haole" means "people with no breath."

Here, it's the exact opposite. People get all "howly" in your face.
You're welcome kids. That's a homonym with a made up word!
I left Bob because he went all howly on me.

[ObFood] Boston Market salisbury steak. Keepin' it simple.

leo

On 2018-06-30 6:29 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:46:19 -0400, wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>> In my popeye suit NYC toll collecters were happy to take my toll in
>> freshly baked sticky buns... but not the badass CT toll collecters.
>> Back in the '60s, in uniform, my money was no good at any
>> bar/restaurant, movie, etc. in NYC. Even the NYC hookers gave sailors
>> freebies. Jamaican wimmens were hot, anything a white sailor wanted
>> to give them a light skinned child/chile. I musta made a dozen.
>
> I bet the hookers were giving out 'freebies.' But Navy fixed it with
> a couple of shots, right?

Didn't you know that they are all motherly types who love a man in
uniform and give it out for free. That's why they hang out in bars in
the parts of town where the young sailors go. They consider it their
patriotic duty.

On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:04:15 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >,
>dsi1 > wrote:
>
>> "Haole" means "people with no breath."
>
>Here, it's the exact opposite. People get all "howly" in your face.
>You're welcome kids. That's a homonym with a made up word!
>I left Bob because he went all howly on me.

Whereas Lucretia's very politically correct and often goes all holy on
us.

On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 17:48:43 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:46:19 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>>
>>> In my popeye suit NYC toll collecters were happy to take my toll in
>>> freshly baked sticky buns... but not the badass CT toll collecters.
>>> Back in the '60s, in uniform, my money was no good at any
>>> bar/restaurant, movie, etc. in NYC. Even the NYC hookers gave sailors
>>> freebies. Jamaican wimmens were hot, anything a white sailor wanted
>>> to give them a light skinned child/chile. I musta made a dozen.
>>
>> I bet the hookers were giving out 'freebies.' But Navy fixed it with
>> a couple of shots, right?
>>
>
>He's probably just making up stories.

And you are too much a COWARDLY ******* to enlist.

On 6/30/2018 7:21 AM, Gary wrote:
> Druce wrote:
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> The assumption there are no blacks living in my community is completely
>>> false. And just to be crystal clear, before I moved here I lived in an
>>> neighborhood where at least 50% of my neighbors were black. It's a
>>> bunch of racist BS that doesn't belong in this or any other discussion
>>> on RFC.
>>
>> Calm down. Mentioning race or skin colour isn't racist by definition.
>> It completely depends on the context.
>
It can be, especially when it was inferred I live in an all white "enclave".

> If humans (as a species) live long enough (doubtful) we'll all
> intermarry over time, have kids that intermarry and eventually
> there will be no racist distinction. We'll all be mutts. More
> likely, humans will become extinct and the earth will be ruled by
> ants.
>
Or cockroaches.

Jill

wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 17:48:43 -0500, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
>
>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:46:19 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> In my popeye suit NYC toll collecters were happy to take my toll in
>>>> freshly baked sticky buns... but not the badass CT toll collecters.
>>>> Back in the '60s, in uniform, my money was no good at any
>>>> bar/restaurant, movie, etc. in NYC. Even the NYC hookers gave sailors
>>>> freebies. Jamaican wimmens were hot, anything a white sailor wanted
>>>> to give them a light skinned child/chile. I musta made a dozen.
>>>
>>> I bet the hookers were giving out 'freebies.' But Navy fixed it with
>>> a couple of shots, right?
>>>
>>
>> He's probably just making up stories.
>
> And you are too much a COWARDLY ******* to enlist.
>
>
Uh oh, Popeye's fixin to get out his big ole 5 inch gun.

Lookout all yoose! Duck ... hide.

On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 1:04:21 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> Here, it's the exact opposite. People get all "howly" in your face.
> You're welcome kids. That's a homonym with a made up word!
> I left Bob because he went all howly on me.
>
> [ObFood] Boston Market salisbury steak. Keepin' it simple.
>
> leo

That's rather interesting. The young folks tend to appropriate words for their own usage. I don't have any problem with that - it's the natural evolution of words.

These days, only squares watch TV. The rest of the world streams. "TV Dinner" is so 50's. These frozen meals should be called "binge box meals."

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:33:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 2:24:31 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>>
>> I didn't realise 'haole' was bad. I just learned it here and I have used it
>> a few times.
>
(...)
>
>"Haole" means "people with no breath." The old Hawaiians would greet each other by touching foreheads and noses and sharing each other's life essence i.e., breath. The new people on the ships coming from the East didn't do that. They had no breath. Some of the Maori people still continue this way of greeting. I like to do that with the grand-kids. It means that we share the same tribe.

"Grandad has been breathing all over me again with his Dr. Pepper
breath!"

wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 17:48:43 -0500, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
>
>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:46:19 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> In my popeye suit NYC toll collecters were happy to take my toll in
>>>> freshly baked sticky buns... but not the badass CT toll collecters.
>>>> Back in the '60s, in uniform, my money was no good at any
>>>> bar/restaurant, movie, etc. in NYC. Even the NYC hookers gave sailors
>>>> freebies. Jamaican wimmens were hot, anything a white sailor wanted
>>>> to give them a light skinned child/chile. I musta made a dozen.
>>>
>>> I bet the hookers were giving out 'freebies.' But Navy fixed it with
>>> a couple of shots, right?
>>>
>>
>> He's probably just making up stories.
>
> And you are too much a COWARDLY ******* to enlist.
>
>


Popeye, I enlisted ... US army, vietnam. It's an up close personal type
combat service. You aren't floating on a tin can. Yoose are in the
enemy's face. With an M-16. Scared too. I bet yoose have never been
scared like the rest of us were. Yoose had yoose spinach, right?

Yoose only floated aimlessly on a peacetime navy garbage scow while
cooking up and serving abominable, disgusting slop in a galley on a tin
can vessel.

Now yoose demean people like wayne boatwright. He may be ***, but yoose
aren't fit to lick his goddamned ass Popeye.

It's Ok though, Popeye. Yoose served. Yoose sorry ass will brag forever.



Thank yoose for yoose service.

On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 02:22:02 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 17:48:43 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 16:46:19 -0400, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> In my popeye suit NYC toll collecters were happy to take my toll in
>>>>> freshly baked sticky buns... but not the badass CT toll collecters.
>>>>> Back in the '60s, in uniform, my money was no good at any
>>>>> bar/restaurant, movie, etc. in NYC. Even the NYC hookers gave sailors
>>>>> freebies. Jamaican wimmens were hot, anything a white sailor wanted
>>>>> to give them a light skinned child/chile. I musta made a dozen.
>>>>
>>>> I bet the hookers were giving out 'freebies.' But Navy fixed it with
>>>> a couple of shots, right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> He's probably just making up stories.
>>
>> And you are too much a COWARDLY ******* to enlist.
>
>Popeye, I enlisted ... US army, vietnam.

I've met several who have claimed that but couldn't prove it.

On 7/1/2018 1:13 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 1-Jul-2018, wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 02:22:02 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> And you are too much a COWARDLY ******* to enlist.
>>>
>>> Popeye, I enlisted ... US army, vietnam.
>>
>> I've met several who have claimed that but couldn't prove it.
>
> Why would anyone feel the need to prove it to you. Even the lowest REMF in
> the Army or Marines deserves more respect than you; a pot scrubbing, potato
> peeling coward who enlisted in the Navy where, in your day, facing an enemy
> had a near zero probability.
>
The Navy probably couldn't figure out what to do with him. He wasn't
4-F... damn, it's the Korean conflict, we can't turn down an able bodied
man. They could have stuck him behind a desk but he didn't know how to
type. He wouldn't have made a good file clerk. Hmmmm, let's put him in
the galley of a ship!

Sheldon once insisted there was no way my father, who enlisted in the
Marine Corps at the age of 17 after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, could
possibly have served on a US Navy ship.

He claimed there were no Marines on Navy ships. Excuse me, but the USMC
and the USN are joined at the hip. The US Marines are a component of
the Department of the Navy and have been since 1834.

It appears the USN didn't let Sheldon out of the galley long enough to
learn about the history of the Navy/Marines or anything else involving
logistics or crew.

At the time this discussion came up my father was still very cognizant.
I told him what Sheldon said about no Marines on Navy ships in WWII. My
father replied, "Tell him he's an assole." My father was a wise man.

Dad kept a long panoramic photo of the crew on deck of the USS General
ML Hersey. I can pick my dad out of the contigent of Marines along with
everyone else. They had a dog on the ship as a mascot. Hmmm... I don't
see Sheldon. j/k

Jill

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/1/2018 1:13 PM, l not -l wrote:
>> On 1-Jul-2018, wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 02:22:02 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> And you are too much a COWARDLY ******* to enlist.
>>>>
>>>> Popeye, I enlisted ... US army, vietnam.
>>>
>>> I've met several who have claimed that but couldn't prove it.
>>
>> Why would anyone feel the need to prove it to you. Even the lowest
>> REMF in
>> the Army or Marines deserves more respect than you; a pot scrubbing,
>> potato
>> peeling coward who enlisted in the Navy where, in your day, facing an
>> enemy
>> had a near zero probability.
>>
> The Navy probably couldn't figure out what to do with him. He wasn't
> 4-F... damn, it's the Korean conflict, we can't turn down an able bodied
> man. They could have stuck him behind a desk but he didn't know how to
> type. He wouldn't have made a good file clerk. Hmmmm, let's put him in
> the galley of a ship!
>
> Sheldon once insisted there was no way my father, who enlisted in the
> Marine Corps at the age of 17 after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, could
> possibly have served on a US Navy ship.
>
> He claimed there were no Marines on Navy ships. Excuse me, but the USMC
> and the USN are joined at the hip. The US Marines are a component of
> the Department of the Navy and have been since 1834.
>
> It appears the USN didn't let Sheldon out of the galley long enough to
> learn about the history of the Navy/Marines or anything else involving
> logistics or crew.
>
> At the time this discussion came up my father was still very cognizant.
> I told him what Sheldon said about no Marines on Navy ships in WWII. My
> father replied, "Tell him he's an assole." My father was a wise man.
>
> Dad kept a long panoramic photo of the crew on deck of the USS General
> ML Hersey. I can pick my dad out of the contigent of Marines along with
> everyone else. They had a dog on the ship as a mascot. Hmmm... I don't
> see Sheldon. j/k
>
> Jill
>
> Jill

Hahahaha. No marines on navy ships? I bet they have never had anchors
either.

I better watch myself, or Popeye will drag out his big ole 5 inch guns

Druce wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:39:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> > On 2018-06-27 9:34 PM, Druce wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:31:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2018-06-27 8:12 PM, Druce wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:46:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >>>> wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>> On 2018-06-27 7:30 PM, Druce wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:27:34 -0700, "Cheri"
> >
> > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>> There is no reason for blacks and asians not to live there
> if they can >>>>>>>> afford it, nobody is stopping them.
> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>> Would you move to an all black neighbourhood?
> > > > > > >
> >>>>>> There are all white neighbourhoods I would not live in.
> > > > > >
> >>>>> Doesn't have to be a color at all, just lifestyles that would
> stop me with >>>>> some neighborhoods.
> > > > >
> >>>> Dodge, dodge.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >>> Ah.... I see. You are assuming that all black neighbourhoods
> inhabited >>> by junkies, thieves and low life.
> >>
> >> I asked a question and both Cheri and you are dodging and not
> >> answering the question. That says it all.
> >>
> >
> > How about switching the question to whether we would live in
> > neighbourhood that was French, Italian, Russian, Chinese, South
> > Asian....... Or are you dealing with your own perception of
> > Black neighbourhoods.
>
> Lol, more dodging! It was such a simple question.

It was a prepositioned question based on your on prejudices.

I dont think any one choses to live in any single color neigborhood
anymore.

On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 19:18:57 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Druce wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:39:52 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On 2018-06-27 9:34 PM, Druce wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:31:51 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2018-06-27 8:12 PM, Druce wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:46:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> >>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> >>>>> ...
>> >>>>>> On 2018-06-27 7:30 PM, Druce wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:27:34 -0700, "Cheri"
>> >
>> > > > > > >
>> >>>>>>>> There is no reason for blacks and asians not to live there
>> if they can >>>>>>>> afford it, nobody is stopping them.
>> > > > > > > >
>> >>>>>>> Would you move to an all black neighbourhood?
>> > > > > > >
>> >>>>>> There are all white neighbourhoods I would not live in.
>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> Doesn't have to be a color at all, just lifestyles that would
>> stop me with >>>>> some neighborhoods.
>> > > > >
>> >>>> Dodge, dodge.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> >>> Ah.... I see. You are assuming that all black neighbourhoods
>> inhabited >>> by junkies, thieves and low life.
>> >>
>> >> I asked a question and both Cheri and you are dodging and not
>> >> answering the question. That says it all.
>> >>
>> >
>> > How about switching the question to whether we would live in
>> > neighbourhood that was French, Italian, Russian, Chinese, South
>> > Asian....... Or are you dealing with your own perception of
>> > Black neighbourhoods.
>>
>> Lol, more dodging! It was such a simple question.
>
>It was a prepositioned question based on your on prejudices.
>
>I dont think any one choses to live in any single color neigborhood
>anymore.

In the meantime, none of you answer my question. Very telling

"Druce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 19:18:57 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>Druce wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:39:52 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 2018-06-27 9:34 PM, Druce wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:31:51 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> On 2018-06-27 8:12 PM, Druce wrote:
>>> >>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:46:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> >>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> >>>>> ...
>>> >>>>>> On 2018-06-27 7:30 PM, Druce wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:27:34 -0700, "Cheri"
>>> >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>>>> There is no reason for blacks and asians not to live there
>>> if they can >>>>>>>> afford it, nobody is stopping them.
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>>> Would you move to an all black neighbourhood?
>>> > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>> There are all white neighbourhoods I would not live in.
>>> > > > > >
>>> >>>>> Doesn't have to be a color at all, just lifestyles that would
>>> stop me with >>>>> some neighborhoods.
>>> > > > >
>>> >>>> Dodge, dodge.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> >>> Ah.... I see. You are assuming that all black neighbourhoods
>>> inhabited >>> by junkies, thieves and low life.
>>> >>
>>> >> I asked a question and both Cheri and you are dodging and not
>>> >> answering the question. That says it all.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > How about switching the question to whether we would live in
>>> > neighbourhood that was French, Italian, Russian, Chinese, South
>>> > Asian....... Or are you dealing with your own perception of
>>> > Black neighbourhoods.
>>>
>>> Lol, more dodging! It was such a simple question.
>>
>>It was a prepositioned question based on your on prejudices.
>>
>>I dont think any one choses to live in any single color neigborhood
>>anymore.
>
> In the meantime, none of you answer my question. Very telling


I did answer it by saying I would do fine with it. I don't know how much
clearer it could be, not that I owe you any answer whatsoever just so we're
clear on that as well.

Cheri

On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:27:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Druce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 19:18:57 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>>Druce wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:39:52 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2018-06-27 9:34 PM, Druce wrote:
>>>> >> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:31:51 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On 2018-06-27 8:12 PM, Druce wrote:
>>>> >>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:46:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> >>>>> ...
>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-06-27 7:30 PM, Druce wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:27:34 -0700, "Cheri"
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> >>>>>>>> There is no reason for blacks and asians not to live there
>>>> if they can >>>>>>>> afford it, nobody is stopping them.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> >>>>>>> Would you move to an all black neighbourhood?
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> >>>>>> There are all white neighbourhoods I would not live in.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >>>>> Doesn't have to be a color at all, just lifestyles that would
>>>> stop me with >>>>> some neighborhoods.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >>>> Dodge, dodge.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> >>> Ah.... I see. You are assuming that all black neighbourhoods
>>>> inhabited >>> by junkies, thieves and low life.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I asked a question and both Cheri and you are dodging and not
>>>> >> answering the question. That says it all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > How about switching the question to whether we would live in
>>>> > neighbourhood that was French, Italian, Russian, Chinese, South
>>>> > Asian....... Or are you dealing with your own perception of
>>>> > Black neighbourhoods.
>>>>
>>>> Lol, more dodging! It was such a simple question.
>>>
>>>It was a prepositioned question based on your on prejudices.
>>>
>>>I dont think any one choses to live in any single color neigborhood
>>>anymore.
>>
>> In the meantime, none of you answer my question. Very telling
>
>
>I did answer it by saying I would do fine with it. I don't know how much
>clearer it could be, not that I owe you any answer whatsoever just so we're
>clear on that as well.

Oh, I missed that or forgot. It's been a while. And you don't owe me
nuttin'.

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 5:35:49 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> My wife picked up some oat milk last week and I have been using it on
> cereal and porridge (Cream of Wheat). It's incredible. It is way better
> on cereal than regular milk or almond milk. I think we have found a winner.

I was looking for oat milk in the stores but there is none around here. Actually, I was in the process of making a batch today. I put 1 cup of oats with 4 cups of water in the Vitamix and let her rip.

Opps, Vitamix sounds sick. I pull the jar off and try to turn the blade by hand. The bearing is shot. I think those times I was making horchata was too much for its old blades. I'll have to order a new set from eBay. Making oat milk should be a breeze compared to rice milk. Make sure that your mix does not heat up. That would make a gooey mess.