I had an interesting meal the other day when my son took me to a
Peruvian restaurant. He recently returned for a month long vacation on
Bolivia and Peru and raved about the foods he had there.


The restaurant was interesting, but had an extremely limited menu.
There were only 5 appetizer choices one the regular menu, one being
ceviche and the other four being different types of empanada. That day
they had a special offering, quinoa croquette. We split an order of
them, and they were delicious. There were only five entree choices.
Three of them were roasted chicken; whole, half or quarter. The other
two choices were braised lamb shanks or stir fried skirt steak. My son
had chicken and I had the lamb, and both were delicious.

The waiter brought a plate of roasted corn for us to snack on while we
waited for our food. I looked up recipes on line and it seems that it
is made by soaking giant Peruvian corn kernals, then tossing them in oil
and salt and spice and roasting them. Quite tasty.

There were no desserts on the menu, but there were some daily
offerings. One was a lucumo sorbet. It seems that lucumo is a fruit that
looks like a cross between an avocado and a mango. The flesh is sort of
dry and stringy so instead of eating it as a fruit it is used as a
flavouring in ice cream and milk shakes. It tastes like caramel.

I am not likely to drive 30 miles just to eat in that restaurant, but
the next time I am in that city and looking for a place to eat, it would
be near the top of the list.

On 2018-06-24 11:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I had an interesting meal the other day when my son took me to a
> Peruvian restaurant. He recently returned for a month long vacation on
> Bolivia and Peru and raved about the foods he had there.
>
>
> The restaurant was interesting, but had an extremely limited menu. There
> were only 5 appetizer choices one the regular menu, one being ceviche
> and the other four being different types of empanada. That day they had
> a special offering, quinoa croquette. We split an order of them, and
> they were delicious.Â* There were only five entree choices. Three of them
> were roasted chicken; whole, half or quarter. The other two choices were
> braised lamb shanks or stir fried skirt steak.Â* My son had chicken and I
> had the lamb, and both were delicious.
>
> The waiter brought a plate of roasted corn for us to snack on while we
> waited for our food.Â* I looked up recipes on line and it seems that it
> is made by soaking giant Peruvian corn kernals, then tossing them in oil
> and salt and spice and roasting them. Quite tasty.
>
> There were no desserts on the menu,Â* but there were some daily
> offerings. One was a lucumo sorbet. It seems that lucumo is a fruit that
> looks like a cross between an avocado and a mango. The flesh is sort of
> dry and stringy so instead of eating it as a fruit it is used as a
> flavouring in ice cream and milk shakes. It tastes like caramel.
>
> I am not likely to drive 30 miles just to eat in that restaurant, but
> the next time I am in that city and looking for a place to eat, it would
> be near the top of the list.

There's one in Calgary (used to be 2). I was hoping they would serve
Carapulchra, a Peruvian dish of pork, dried potatoes and peanuts as I
have heard that it is a Peruvian classic but roast chicken dominates the
menu.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I am not likely to drive 30 miles just to eat in that restaurant, but
> the next time I am in that city and looking for a place to eat, it
> would be near the top of the list.

This is one reason I'll never move out of NYC. Countless Peruvian,
Afghan, and everything else. Two separate Chinatowns where you can pick
Cantonese, Shanghai, etc.

I bought a jar of Peruvian chicken marinade and it comes out almost like
it does in the restaurants. The first time it was way too salty. Then
I read the instructions: mix 50/50 with water. So it lasts twice as
long as I thought.

On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 16:36:08 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I am not likely to drive 30 miles just to eat in that restaurant, but
>> the next time I am in that city and looking for a place to eat, it
>> would be near the top of the list.
>
>This is one reason I'll never move out of NYC. Countless Peruvian,
>Afghan, and everything else. Two separate Chinatowns where you can pick
>Cantonese, Shanghai, etc.
>
>I bought a jar of Peruvian chicken marinade and it comes out almost like
>it does in the restaurants. The first time it was way too salty. Then
>I read the instructions: mix 50/50 with water. So it lasts twice as
>long as I thought.

If it can't be found in NYC it doesn't exist, especially food.

On 2018-06-24 3:40 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-06-24 11:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I am not likely to drive 30 miles just to eat in that restaurant, but
>> the next time I am in that city and looking for a place to eat, it
>> would be near the top of the list.
>
> There's one in Calgary (used to be 2). I was hoping they would serve
> Carapulchra, a Peruvian dish of pork, dried potatoes and peanuts as I
> have heard that it is a Peruvian classic but roast chicken dominates the
> menu.

I thought that it was kinda funny that four of the five appetizers on
the menu were empanadas, basically variations of the same thing, so only
two choices, empanada or ceviche, and that three of the five entree
choices where just different size portions of chicken.

On 2018-06-24 4:36 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I am not likely to drive 30 miles just to eat in that restaurant, but
>> the next time I am in that city and looking for a place to eat, it
>> would be near the top of the list.
>
> This is one reason I'll never move out of NYC. Countless Peruvian,
> Afghan, and everything else. Two separate Chinatowns where you can pick
> Cantonese, Shanghai, etc.

All on the same block? I live in a rural area so it is a bit of a drive
anywhere I go, but it is a fast drive.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-06-24 4:36 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not likely to drive 30 miles just to eat in that restaurant,
>>> but the next time I am in that city and looking for a place to eat,
>>> it would be near the top of the list.
>>
>> This is one reason I'll never move out of NYC. Countless Peruvian,
>> Afghan, and everything else. Two separate Chinatowns where you can
>> pick Cantonese, Shanghai, etc.
>
> All on the same block? I live in a rural area so it is a bit of a
> drive anywhere I go, but it is a fast drive.

In neighborhoods like Jackson Heights or Astoria it comes close to that.
On one corner in JH there is Indian, Afghan, Argentinian, Italian, and
others. Lots of places in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx are like that.

But not in Manhattan. There you find one of the Chinatowns, and lots of
other ethnic places, but not as densely packed. And many are fake. The
cooks are often Mexican regardless of what they cook (not in Chinese
places). And the food is good anyway but not made by natives so it's
not the same. The guy dressed as a Sikh standing in front of an Indian
restaurant in Manhattan is a Puerto Rican when you look close. It's
because they don't live in Manhattan. You have to go where they live.
Don't go to the Italian restaurant in an area where everybody is Indian,
Pakistani or Hispanic.

In the Queens phone book there are a half dozen guys named King Kong,
and some in The Bronx and Brooklyn phone books, but none in Manhattan
last time I looked.

On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 18:46:56 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> wrote:


>others. Lots of places in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx are like that.
>
>But not in Manhattan. There you find one of the Chinatowns, and lots of
>other ethnic places, but not as densely packed. And many are fake. The
>cooks are often Mexican regardless of what they cook (not in Chinese
>places). And the food is good anyway but not made by natives so it's
>not the same. The guy dressed as a Sikh standing in front of an Indian
>restaurant in Manhattan is a Puerto Rican when you look close. It's
>because they don't live in Manhattan. You have to go where they live.
>Don't go to the Italian restaurant in an area where everybody is Indian,
>Pakistani or Hispanic.

Bullshit.

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 12:53:48 PM UTC-10, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>
> In neighborhoods like Jackson Heights or Astoria it comes close to that.
> On one corner in JH there is Indian, Afghan, Argentinian, Italian, and
> others. Lots of places in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx are like that.
>
> But not in Manhattan. There you find one of the Chinatowns, and lots of
> other ethnic places, but not as densely packed. And many are fake. The
> cooks are often Mexican regardless of what they cook (not in Chinese
> places). And the food is good anyway but not made by natives so it's
> not the same. The guy dressed as a Sikh standing in front of an Indian
> restaurant in Manhattan is a Puerto Rican when you look close. It's
> because they don't live in Manhattan. You have to go where they live.
> Don't go to the Italian restaurant in an area where everybody is Indian,
> Pakistani or Hispanic.
>
> In the Queens phone book there are a half dozen guys named King Kong,
> and some in The Bronx and Brooklyn phone books, but none in Manhattan
> last time I looked.

My brother says that he can get some great sushi in Lafayette, Indiana. They have a Subaru manufacturing plant there and Subaru sent some sushi chefs there to take care of the sushi needs of the Japan executives. He said that the chef at his favorite sushi restaurant is Mexican. Ay mamacita!

On 6/24/2018 5:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I thought that it was kinda funny that four of the five appetizers on
> the menu were empanadas, basically variations of the same thing, so only
> two choices, empanada or ceviche, and that three of the five entree
> choices where just different size portions of chicken.
>

I guess over the centuries, appetizers were not a big part of Peruvian
cuisine.

On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 19:13:05 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 18:46:56 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> wrote:
>
>
>>others. Lots of places in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx are like that.
>>
>>But not in Manhattan. There you find one of the Chinatowns, and lots of
>>other ethnic places, but not as densely packed. And many are fake. The
>>cooks are often Mexican regardless of what they cook (not in Chinese
>>places). And the food is good anyway but not made by natives so it's
>>not the same. The guy dressed as a Sikh standing in front of an Indian
>>restaurant in Manhattan is a Puerto Rican when you look close. It's
>>because they don't live in Manhattan. You have to go where they live.
>>Don't go to the Italian restaurant in an area where everybody is Indian,
>>Pakistani or Hispanic.
>
>Bullshit.

The old Tourette's acting up again?

On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 19:58:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 6/24/2018 5:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I thought that it was kinda funny that four of the five appetizers on
>> the menu were empanadas, basically variations of the same thing, so only
>> two choices, empanada or ceviche, and that three of the five entree
>> choices where just different size portions of chicken.
>>
>
>I guess over the centuries, appetizers were not a big part of Peruvian
>cuisine.


I like to nibble on cancha. Anticuchos are nice too, but harder to
find..

Druce wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 19:13:05 -0400, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
> The old Tourette's acting up again?

He must have doubted that Mexicans don't make Indian food the same way
Indians do.

Mexicans can be great cooks, but I want ethnic food made by people who
grew up on it.

But he didn't doubt there are guys named King Kong.

(They're in online phone listings too.)

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 4:42:18 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > I am not likely to drive 30 miles just to eat in that restaurant, but
> > the next time I am in that city and looking for a place to eat, it
> > would be near the top of the list.
>
> This is one reason I'll never move out of NYC. Countless Peruvian,
> Afghan, and everything else. Two separate Chinatowns where you can pick
> Cantonese, Shanghai, etc.

Doesn't make up for the fact that it's a ******** where the rats outnumber
the people. (Ok, that's an exaggeration; the most accurate study to date
numbers the rat population at 20% of the human population).

No cities for me. A college town of about 100,000 is just about right.

Cindy Hamilton

On 6/25/2018 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> No cities for me. A college town of about 100,000 is just about right.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

That is too big for me. I came from a city of 2 million. I like our
town of 10,000.

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:44:29 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/25/2018 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >
> > No cities for me. A college town of about 100,000 is just about right.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> That is too big for me. I came from a city of 2 million. I like our
> town of 10,000.

Oh, I don't live in town. I live on a couple acres just outside
of town. Lower taxes, and I can go in for the amenities anytime
I want. Oddly enough, there has been so much growth just outside
that I can get pretty much everything I need without driving
downtown and paying for parking. From Tibetan food to odd-sized
stainless-steel screws.

But I do have to go right downtown to get Ethiopian food.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Doesn't make up for the fact that it's a ******** where the rats
> outnumber the people. (Ok, that's an exaggeration; the most accurate
> study to date numbers the rat population at 20% of the human
> population).

Well if you all came here it would be crowded.

Rural places have mosquitos the size of wasps or other vermin. There's
something like that everywhere.

FYI we absolutely never see rats in a house or building. They stay in
the sewer and subway. In the subway you see them on rare occasions on
the tracks but never on the platform.