On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:59:41 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:49:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2018-07-09 6:29 PM, wrote:
> >> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> I grew up with paper straws and wooden ice cream spoons, never saw
> >> plastic til the 6o's. I never saw plastic ball point pens until the
> >> late 50s
> >
> >Ball point pens were slow off the start and were very expensive in the
> >1950s. When I was in elementary school we had to learn to write with
> >stick pens. Once we demonstrated mastery of that we could use fountain
> >pens, and we used them right through high school. By the time I got to
> >university Bic pens were cheap.
>
> Just the opposite in the US, we learned to write long hand with
> fountain pens.

Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
to write cursive with a pencil.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 5:37:51 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:59:41 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > Just the opposite in the US, we learned to write long hand with
> > fountain pens.
>
> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
> to write cursive with a pencil.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
Same here. Fountains were not used until junior high and only for book
reports and such.

On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
> to write cursive with a pencil.
>
As did I.
We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.

On 2018-07-11 6:41 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me.Â* I learned
>> to write cursive with a pencil.
>>
> As did I.
> We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
> to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.
>
Same here. Cursive was initially taught when we used chalk and small
blackboards in my village school.

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:41:11 AM UTC-4, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
> > to write cursive with a pencil.
> >
> As did I.
> We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
> to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.

I'm an infant of 61. It was all ball points for us. As a lefty,
I've never been able to use a fountain pen. Not amenable to being
pushed across the page, and my hand drags through the ink.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:16:19 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I'm an infant of 61. It was all ball points for us. As a lefty,
> I've never been able to use a fountain pen. Not amenable to being
> pushed across the page, and my hand drags through the ink.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
Lefty as well and using a fountain would really have slowed us down waiting
for ink to dry or continuously blotting.

On 2018-07-11 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:41:11 AM UTC-4, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
>>> to write cursive with a pencil.
>>>
>> As did I.
>> We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
>> to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.
>
> I'm an infant of 61. It was all ball points for us. As a lefty,
> I've never been able to use a fountain pen. Not amenable to being
> pushed across the page, and my hand drags through the ink.
>

You came along just about the time that ballpoints became cheap and
reliable, and they seemed to have lost interest in penmanship.

On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap
ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens. I would buy Parker
ball point pens. I found them more comfortable to hold and they could be
used upside down for a few words, which was handy at work. A cartridge
would last me for months, compared to stick pens which usually went
missing withing a couple hours. I just had to remember to take them out
of my pocket when I got home because they did not endure laundry cycles.

Having used my own pens for so many years I developed the habit of
automatically returning pens to my pocket when I was finished writing.
As a result, I have become an inadvertent pen thief. If someone loans me
a pen for something that automatic behaviour leads me to treat it as I
would treat my own pens... into the pocket.

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-07-11 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:41:11 AM UTC-4, S Viemeister wrote:
> >> On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
> >>> to write cursive with a pencil.
> >>>
> >> As did I.
> >> We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
> >> to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.
> >
> > I'm an infant of 61. It was all ball points for us. As a lefty,
> > I've never been able to use a fountain pen. Not amenable to being
> > pushed across the page, and my hand drags through the ink.
> >
>
> You came along just about the time that ballpoints became cheap and
> reliable, and they seemed to have lost interest in penmanship.

I probably used mostly pencil up until 7th grade, which would have
been in 1969.

> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap
> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens.

I buy my own pens, too. I like a fairly slim ball point pen with a
fine point. Looks like I've settled on Papermate Comfort Mate pens.

I still mainly use pencil, except for signing stuff.

Cindy Hamilton

On 7/11/2018 12:53 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:

>> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap
>> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens.
>
> I buy my own pens, too. I like a fairly slim ball point pen with a
> fine point. Looks like I've settled on Papermate Comfort Mate pens.

I always brought in my own pens, I guess I'm fussy. These days it's
Paper Made Flex Grip fine point. Mostly I use them for puzzles.
Also Ticonderoga #3 pencils.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/11/2018 12:53 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap
>>> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens.
>>
>> I buy my own pens, too. I like a fairly slim ball point pen with a
>> fine point. Looks like I've settled on Papermate Comfort Mate pens.
>
> I always brought in my own pens, I guess I'm fussy. These days it's
> Paper Made Flex Grip fine point. Mostly I use them for puzzles.
> Also Ticonderoga #3 pencils.
>
> nancy


I like the Black Warrior pencils for puzzles.

Cheri

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:31:22 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 7/11/2018 12:53 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap
>>> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens.
>>
>> I buy my own pens, too. I like a fairly slim ball point pen with a
>> fine point. Looks like I've settled on Papermate Comfort Mate pens.
>
>I always brought in my own pens, I guess I'm fussy. These days it's
>Paper Made Flex Grip fine point. Mostly I use them for puzzles.
>Also Ticonderoga #3 pencils.
>
>nancy

For crosswords I use these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I like a bold point gel pen and blue is very nice. I think Uniball
makes a much better product than Paper Mate.

On 7/11/2018 10:44 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap
> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens. I would buy Parker
> ball point pens. I found them more comfortable to hold and they could be
> usedÂ* upside down for a few words, which was handy at work.Â* A cartridge
> would last me for months, compared to stick pens which usually went
> missing withing a couple hours.

I used Parker for years and I also had a pen custom turned that uses
Parker refills but is a little fatter.

I also have a Cross slide open cartridge pen that is short and is in my
pocket all the time. Rare that you will find me with no pen if I have
clothes on.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/11/2018 10:44 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap
>> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens. I would buy Parker
>> ball point pens. I found them more comfortable to hold and they could be
>> used upside down for a few words, which was handy at work. A cartridge
>> would last me for months, compared to stick pens which usually went
>> missing withing a couple hours.
>
> I used Parker for years and I also had a pen custom turned that uses
> Parker refills but is a little fatter.
>
> I also have a Cross slide open cartridge pen that is short and is in my
> pocket all the time. Rare that you will find me with no pen if I have
> clothes on.

I use a Pilot with Mont Blanc refills, you just have to trim a bit off the
end of the refill for them to fit perfectly.

Cheri

On 7/11/2018 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I'm an infant of 61. It was all ball points for us. As a lefty,
> I've never been able to use a fountain pen. Not amenable to being
> pushed across the page, and my hand drags through the ink.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

As a lefty I hd similar problems, but as an adult I figured it out. My
wife was able to though, she also is a lefty.

The good news though, we make good pitchers and the best machinists and
tool makers.

S Viemeister wrote:
>
> On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
> > to write cursive with a pencil.
> >
> As did I.
> We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
> to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.

gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in
RFC.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in
> RFC.


It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles, green
bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed pizza
mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-)

Cheri

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
> > gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in
> > RFC.
>
> It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles, green
> bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed pizza
> mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-)

heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the
green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm
still kicking too. :-D

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in
>> > RFC.
>>
>> It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles,
>> green
>> bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed
>> pizza
>> mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-)
>
> heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the
> green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm
> still kicking too. :-D


Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the old
days.

Cheri

On 2018-07-12 2:12 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message

>>> It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles,
>>> green
>>> bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed
>>> pizza
>>> mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-)
>>
>> heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the
>> green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm
>> still kicking too.Â* :-D
>
>
> Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the
> old days.

Looking at that list of food there is not much I am interested in
eating. The only exception would be the famous green bean casserole,
something that I only had twice in my life and not until 11-12 years
ago. I had heard about it but never tried it. It sounded revolting but
turned out to be surprisingly good.

Cheri wrote:
>
> Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the old
> days.

Well happy belated birthday to you!
I swear someday I'll try the green bean casserole. I'm sure I'll
like it.

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in
>> > RFC.
>>
>> It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles,
>> green
>> bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed
>> pizza
>> mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-)
>
> heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the
> green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm
> still kicking too. :-D


Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the old
days.

Cheri

===

Happy belated birthday, Cheri. I hope you had a really good one)

On 7/12/2018 2:12 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> > gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in
>>> > RFC.*
>>>
>>> It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles,
>>> green
>>> bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed
>>> pizza
>>> mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-)
>>
>> heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the
>> green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm
>> still kicking too.* :-D
>
>
> Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the
> old days.
>
> Cheri

Happy belated birthday, Cheri!

I still have Mom's hand-written copy of the green bean casserole
"recipe" taped inside a kitchen cabinet door. She put it there I don't
know how many years ago so I see it any time I open that cabinet.
I've never made it; I don't recall her ever making it either.

Jill

In article >, Cheri >
wrote:

> Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the old
> days.

You beat me by a month and a couple of weeks.

leo

On 2018-07-11 6:41 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me.Â* I learned
>> to write cursive with a pencil.
>>
> As did I.
> We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
> to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.
>
Furthermore, we were taught how to hold a pen or pencil. Some of the
cumbersome ways kids handle them these days is testimony to falling
standards.

On 7/11/2018 11:57 AM, graham wrote:

> Furthermore, we were taught how to hold a pen or pencil. Some of the
> cumbersome ways kids handle them these days is testimony to falling
> standards.

BUT! .....can you touch-type?

nb

On 2018-07-11 2:01 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 11:57 AM, graham wrote:
>
>> Furthermore, we were taught how to hold a pen or pencil. Some of the
>> cumbersome ways kids handle them these days is testimony to falling
>> standards.
>
> BUT! .....can you touch-type?Â*
>
>

Yes, I can.

On 7/11/2018 6:57 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-07-11 6:41 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I
>>> learned
>>> to write cursive with a pencil.
>>>
>> As did I.
>> We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were
>> allowed to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.
>>
> Furthermore, we were taught how to hold a pen or pencil. Some of the
> cumbersome ways kids handle them these days is testimony to falling
> standards.

Yes. So many younger folk have incredibly ways of gripping their writing
tools.

In article >, says...
>
> On 2018-07-11 6:41 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me.* I learned
> >> to write cursive with a pencil.
> >>
> > As did I.
> > We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
> > to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.
> >
> Furthermore, we were taught how to hold a pen or pencil.

So were we, and there was ONLY ONE right way. Along with correct
physical posture at the desk.

Janet UK

Some of the
> cumbersome ways kids handle them these days is testimony to falling
> standards.

On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 12:22:31 PM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
> >
> > On 2018-07-11 6:41 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > > On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > >> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me.Â* I learned
> > >> to write cursive with a pencil.
> > >>
> > > As did I.
> > > We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed
> > > to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points.
> > >
> > Furthermore, we were taught how to hold a pen or pencil.
>
> So were we, and there was ONLY ONE right way. Along with correct
> physical posture at the desk.

I'm extremely grateful that my teachers didn't attempt to make me
right-handed, or mess with my grip.

I got plenty of practice writing lines for talking out of turn.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2018-07-11 6:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:59:41 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:49:29 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-07-09 6:29 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> I grew up with paper straws and wooden ice cream spoons, never saw
>>>> plastic til the 6o's. I never saw plastic ball point pens until the
>>>> late 50s
>>>
>>> Ball point pens were slow off the start and were very expensive in the
>>> 1950s. When I was in elementary school we had to learn to write with
>>> stick pens. Once we demonstrated mastery of that we could use fountain
>>> pens, and we used them right through high school. By the time I got to
>>> university Bic pens were cheap.
>>
>> Just the opposite in the US, we learned to write long hand with
>> fountain pens.
>
> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
> to write cursive with a pencil.


I was referring only to the use of pens and I think I may have used the
wrong term, calling them stick pens when they are actually dip pens.
IIRC we learned to write with pencils first and then progressed to pens.
We had to learn to write with a dip pen first. That meant having to
dip the tip into an ink pot every few words and to blot it dry so the
ink didn't run and smear.

After we learned how to use dip pens we could use fountain pens. They
were typically loaded from the ink pot in the desk. Cartridges soon
became available, and in different colours. Peacock blue was always
popular with students but not with teachers.

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I was referring only to the use of pens and I think I may have used the
> wrong term, calling them stick pens when they are actually dip pens.
> IIRC we learned to write with pencils first and then progressed to pens.
> We had to learn to write with a dip pen first. That meant having to
> dip the tip into an ink pot every few words and to blot it dry so the
> ink didn't run and smear.
>
> After we learned how to use dip pens we could use fountain pens. They
> were typically loaded from the ink pot in the desk. Cartridges soon
> became available, and in different colours. Peacock blue was always
> popular with students but not with teachers.
>
>
To be honest, I don't think they would have allowed open ink pots in
any classroom when I was child, even all the way to senior high school.
Ruined clothes, ink fights, spilled ink on the floor. Nope, definitely
no open ink pots in a classroom.

I've never anyone write with a dipped pen except on TV. It looks messy
as hell and slow and tedious with all the blotting.

On 2018-07-11 9:35 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

>> After we learned how to use dip pens we could use fountain pens. They
>> were typically loaded from the ink pot in the desk. Cartridges soon
>> became available, and in different colours. Peacock blue was always
>> popular with students but not with teachers.
>>
>>
> To be honest, I don't think they would have allowed open ink pots in
> any classroom when I was child, even all the way to senior high school.
> Ruined clothes, ink fights, spilled ink on the floor. Nope, definitely
> no open ink pots in a classroom.

True. Teachers and janitors were probably happy to see them gone. I once
got into trouble for a stupid prank. There was a cute girl seated in
front of me and her pig tails were often resting on my desk. Opportunity
knocks once but temptation leans on the door bell. I dipped the end of
her right pigtail into my ink pot. I don't think she realized that but
she probably sensed that something was a miss and jerked her head
forward, ripping her pig tail from my 10 year old fingers and onto her
immaculately clean white blouse.


> I've never anyone write with a dipped pen except on TV. It looks messy
> as hell and slow and tedious with all the blotting.

True. It was slow, but it was also an art form.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I once
> got into trouble for a stupid prank. There was a cute girl seated in
> front of me and her pig tails were often resting on my desk. Opportunity
> knocks once but temptation leans on the door bell. I dipped the end of
> her right pigtail into my ink pot. I don't think she realized that but
> she probably sensed that something was a miss and jerked her head
> forward, ripping her pig tail from my 10 year old fingers and onto her
> immaculately clean white blouse.

Oh horse crap! Pants on fire, Dave! You never did that, you lying
POS. That old story had been going around forever on movies and
books about the old days. I have read so many stories about
"dipping a girl's pigtail in the ink well." Kiss my ass!

You are so busted with this phony story. Try again. Do not pass
Go, do not collect $200.

On 2018-07-11 11:53 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I once
>> got into trouble for a stupid prank. There was a cute girl seated in
>> front of me and her pig tails were often resting on my desk. Opportunity
>> knocks once but temptation leans on the door bell. I dipped the end of
>> her right pigtail into my ink pot. I don't think she realized that but
>> she probably sensed that something was a miss and jerked her head
>> forward, ripping her pig tail from my 10 year old fingers and onto her
>> immaculately clean white blouse.
>
> Oh horse crap! Pants on fire, Dave! You never did that, you lying
> POS. That old story had been going around forever on movies and
> books about the old days. I have read so many stories about
> "dipping a girl's pigtail in the ink well." Kiss my ass!
>
> You are so busted with this phony story. Try again. Do not pass
> Go, do not collect $200.
>


No. I am not busted. It happened. I got into a lot of trouble over it.

On 7/11/2018 10:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-07-11 9:35 AM, wrote:
>>>
>> To be honest, I don't think they would have allowed open ink pots in
>> any classroom when I was child, even all the way to senior high school.
>> Ruined clothes, ink fights, spilled ink on the floor.Â* Nope, definitely
>> no open ink pots in a classroom.
>
> True. Teachers and janitors were probably happy to see them gone. I once
> got into trouble for a stupid prank. There was a cute girl seated in
> front of me and her pig tails were often resting on my desk. Opportunity
> knocks once but temptation leans on the door bell. I dipped the end of
> her right pigtail into my ink pot. I don't think she realized that but
> she probably sensed that something was a miss and jerked her head
> forward, ripping her pig tail from my 10 year old fingers and onto her
> immaculately clean white blouse.
>
I always thought the dipping of a girl's pigtail in an ink pot was an
urban legend. Kind of like my dad walking uphill to school both ways in
the snow...

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 7/11/2018 10:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-07-11 9:35 AM, wrote:
>>>
>> To be honest, I don't think they would have allowed open ink pots in
>> any classroom when I was child, even all the way to senior high school.
>> Ruined clothes, ink fights, spilled ink on the floor. Nope, definitely
>> no open ink pots in a classroom.
>
> True. Teachers and janitors were probably happy to see them gone. I once
> got into trouble for a stupid prank. There was a cute girl seated in
> front of me and her pig tails were often resting on my desk. Opportunity
> knocks once but temptation leans on the door bell. I dipped the end of
> her right pigtail into my ink pot. I don't think she realized that but
> she probably sensed that something was a miss and jerked her head
> forward, ripping her pig tail from my 10 year old fingers and onto her
> immaculately clean white blouse.
>
I always thought the dipping of a girl's pigtail in an ink pot was an
urban legend. Kind of like my dad walking uphill to school both ways in
the snow...

Jill

==

I had my plait dipped in ink! Wrecked the ribbon!

On 7/13/2018 12:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown"Â* wrote in message ...
> On 7/11/2018 10:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-07-11 9:35 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>> To be honest, I don't think they would have allowed open ink pots in
>>> any classroom when I was child, even all the way to senior high school.
>>> Ruined clothes, ink fights, spilled ink on the floor.Â* Nope, definitely
>>> no open ink pots in a classroom.
>>
>> True. Teachers and janitors were probably happy to see them gone. I
>> once got into trouble for a stupid prank. There was a cute girl seated
>> in front of me and her pig tails were often resting on my desk.
>> Opportunity knocks once but temptation leans on the door bell. I
>> dipped the end of her right pigtail into my ink pot. I don't think she
>> realized that but she probably sensed that something was a miss and
>> jerked her head forward, ripping her pig tail from my 10 year old
>> fingers and onto her immaculately clean white blouse.
>>
> I always thought the dipping of a girl's pigtail in an ink pot was an
> urban legend.Â* Kind of like my dad walking uphill to school both ways in
> the snow...
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> I had my plait dipped in ink!Â* Wrecked the ribbon!
>
>
Okay, I believe you and Dave! I think I first read about the idea in
the book Tomy Sawyer (written by Mark Twain aka Samuel Clemens). Maybe
that's where all those boys got the idea. LOL

Jill

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...
> On 7/11/2018 10:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-07-11 9:35 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>> To be honest, I don't think they would have allowed open ink pots in
>>> any classroom when I was child, even all the way to senior high school.
>>> Ruined clothes, ink fights, spilled ink on the floor. Nope, definitely
>>> no open ink pots in a classroom.
>>
>> True. Teachers and janitors were probably happy to see them gone. I once
>> got into trouble for a stupid prank. There was a cute girl seated in
>> front of me and her pig tails were often resting on my desk. Opportunity
>> knocks once but temptation leans on the door bell. I dipped the end of
>> her right pigtail into my ink pot. I don't think she realized that but
>> she probably sensed that something was a miss and jerked her head
>> forward, ripping her pig tail from my 10 year old fingers and onto her
>> immaculately clean white blouse.
>>
> I always thought the dipping of a girl's pigtail in an ink pot was an
> urban legend. Kind of like my dad walking uphill to school both ways in
> the snow...
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> I had my plait dipped in ink! Wrecked the ribbon!

There's a reason why it has been featured so many times because I'm sure it
happened a lot in bygone ages.

Cheri

On 7/11/2018 7:35 AM, wrote:

> I've never anyone write with a dipped pen except on TV. It looks messy
> as hell and slow and tedious with all the blotting.

Mostly correct.

Dip pens are all you sed. Messy, slow, and tedious ....but, they also
are very "flexible", allowing fine-line up-strokes and thick-line
down-strokes, a phenomena found in really OLD fountain pens (also, very
pricey! FP's).

Lotta Youtube videos with dip pens. Here's one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib2VURj0ykc

BTW, the dip pen she (Suzanne Cunningham) is using is called an
"oblique" dip pen, as opposed to a "straight" dip pen.

nb

On 7/11/2018 9:35 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> We had to learn to write with a dip pen first. That meant having to
>> dip the tip into an ink pot every few words and to blot it dry so the
>> ink didn't run and smear.
>>
>> After we learned how to use dip pens we could use fountain pens. They
>> were typically loaded from the ink pot in the desk. Cartridges soon
>> became available, and in different colours. Peacock blue was always
>> popular with students but not with teachers.
>>
>>
> To be honest, I don't think they would have allowed open ink pots in
> any classroom when I was child, even all the way to senior high school.
> Ruined clothes, ink fights, spilled ink on the floor. Nope, definitely
> no open ink pots in a classroom.
>
Same here, Joan. Although I did attend a few elementary schools where
the wooden desks were so old they still had an inkwell in the upper
corner.

> I've never anyone write with a dipped pen except on TV. It looks messy
> as hell and slow and tedious with all the blotting.
>
Probably so, but I suppose it did force you to take your time and
correctly form the letters.

Jill