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On 2018-07-11 12:40 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 11 Jul 2018 10:27:55a, U.S. Janet B. told us... > >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:15:24 -0400, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >>> On 2018-07-11 11:49 AM, Gary wrote: >>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. >>>>> I learned to write cursive with a pencil. >>>> >>>> I'm actually stunned that people here claim they don't teach >>>> kids cursive now. Is that true? I find it hard to believe but I >>>> can check with my daughter about this. I have 2 grandchildren in >>>> elementary school. >>> >>> I just Googled it and it seems that cursive is no longer on the >>> curriculum here in Ontario, or most of the rest of Canada. It can >>> be taught at the discretion of teachers, but only about 40% of >>> schools were teaching it as of three years ago. >>> >>> >>>> I've also heard that they teach limited math now too since >>>> everyone has calculators of some sort so no need to learn the >>>> basics? >>> >>> I don't know if there is any truth to that. They are still >>> teaching the basics here. Calculators are certainly helpful in >>> higher levels. I had to take statistics and probability courses at >>> university in the early 70s when calculators were extremely >>> expensive. A pocket calculator that would add, subtract, multiply >>> and divide was about $250, and those that had memory banks were a >>> lot more. Working out even the simplest formulae involved >>> squaring and figuring out square roots. The mechanics of all the >>> calculations was overwhelming and interfered with learning. By my >>> second here the department had set up a calculator room where we >>> could do the math. >>> >>> >> Ahh, thinking back to the days of the slide ruler. >> > > OMG, how I hated slide rules! > Damn sight quicker than using log tables:-) I still have mine from high school and uni days. |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 19:04:33 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote: snip > >I was taught to never use some else's fountain pen, and to never let >anyone else use yours. Apparently the tip develops a unique shape >with use, by that user/owner. smile. I had forgotten that stricture although I would never borrow or lend a fountain pen |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
... > On 7/11/2018 12:53 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote: > >>> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap >>> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens. >> >> I buy my own pens, too. I like a fairly slim ball point pen with a >> fine point. Looks like I've settled on Papermate Comfort Mate pens. > > I always brought in my own pens, I guess I'm fussy. These days it's > Paper Made Flex Grip fine point. Mostly I use them for puzzles. > Also Ticonderoga #3 pencils. > > nancy I like the Black Warrior pencils for puzzles. Cheri |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:31:22 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote: >On 7/11/2018 12:53 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote: > >>> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap >>> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens. >> >> I buy my own pens, too. I like a fairly slim ball point pen with a >> fine point. Looks like I've settled on Papermate Comfort Mate pens. > >I always brought in my own pens, I guess I'm fussy. These days it's >Paper Made Flex Grip fine point. Mostly I use them for puzzles. >Also Ticonderoga #3 pencils. > >nancy For crosswords I use these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I like a bold point gel pen and blue is very nice. I think Uniball makes a much better product than Paper Mate. |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 13:16:54 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 19:04:33 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright > wrote: > >snip >> >>I was taught to never use some else's fountain pen, and to never let >>anyone else use yours. Apparently the tip develops a unique shape >>with use, by that user/owner. > >smile. I had forgotten that stricture although I would never borrow >or lend a fountain pen And anyone who uses fountain pens would not call it a "tip", it's a nib. |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:27:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:15:24 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>On 2018-07-11 11:49 AM, Gary wrote: >>> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>> >>>> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned >>>> to write cursive with a pencil. >>> >>> I'm actually stunned that people here claim they don't teach kids >>> cursive now. Is that true? I find it hard to believe but I can >>> check with my daughter about this. I have 2 grandchildren in >>> elementary school. >> >>I just Googled it and it seems that cursive is no longer on the >>curriculum here in Ontario, or most of the rest of Canada. It can be >>taught at the discretion of teachers, but only about 40% of schools were >>teaching it as of three years ago. >> >> >>> I've also heard that they teach limited math now too since >>> everyone has calculators of some sort so no need to learn the >>> basics? >> >>I don't know if there is any truth to that. They are still teaching the >>basics here. Calculators are certainly helpful in higher levels. I had >>to take statistics and probability courses at university in the early >>70s when calculators were extremely expensive. A pocket calculator that >>would add, subtract, multiply and divide was about $250, and those that >>had memory banks were a lot more. Working out even the simplest >>formulae involved squaring and figuring out square roots. The mechanics >>of all the calculations was overwhelming and interfered with learning. >>By my second here the department had set up a calculator room where we >>could do the math. >> >> >Ahh, thinking back to the days of the slide ruler. No "r". I found the slide rule frustrating. |
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On 2018-07-11 5:19 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:31:22 -0400, Nancy Young > > For crosswords I use these: > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > I like a bold point gel pen and blue is very nice. I think Uniball > makes a much better product than Paper Mate. > I just use my Parker ballpoint pen for crosswords. I prefer a fine point because the narrow line is easier to overwrite. |
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:31:22 -0400, Nancy Young > > wrote: > >> On 7/11/2018 12:53 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote: >> >>>> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap >>>> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens. >>> >>> I buy my own pens, too. I like a fairly slim ball point pen with a >>> fine point. Looks like I've settled on Papermate Comfort Mate pens. >> >> I always brought in my own pens, I guess I'm fussy. These days it's >> Paper Made Flex Grip fine point. Mostly I use them for puzzles. >> Also Ticonderoga #3 pencils. >> >> nancy > > For crosswords I use these: > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > I like a bold point gel pen and blue is very nice. I think Uniball > makes a much better product than Paper Mate. > Yoose just like the name Popeye. |
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On 7/11/2018 6:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> Just the opposite in the US, we learned to write long hand with >> fountain pens. > > Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned > to write cursive with a pencil. > > Cindy Hamilton > Same here. I think it was fourth grade when we started with fountain pens, ball points were rare then. I was in 5th grade when my mother bought a PaperMate pen and let me write with it and my handwriting improved. That was about 1955. |
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On 7/11/2018 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I'm an infant of 61. It was all ball points for us. As a lefty, > I've never been able to use a fountain pen. Not amenable to being > pushed across the page, and my hand drags through the ink. > > Cindy Hamilton > As a lefty I hd similar problems, but as an adult I figured it out. My wife was able to though, she also is a lefty. The good news though, we make good pitchers and the best machinists and tool makers. |
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On 7/11/2018 10:44 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap > ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens. I would buy Parker > ball point pens. I found them more comfortable to hold and they could be > usedÂ* upside down for a few words, which was handy at work.Â* A cartridge > would last me for months, compared to stick pens which usually went > missing withing a couple hours. I used Parker for years and I also had a pen custom turned that uses Parker refills but is a little fatter. I also have a Cross slide open cartridge pen that is short and is in my pocket all the time. Rare that you will find me with no pen if I have clothes on. |
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On 7/11/2018 11:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Dude. I thought you were younger than me but you are talking 19th > century nonsense, imo. > I just turned 65 12 days ago and none of that applied when I was > in school. Always pencils and ballpoint pens for my time. I remember our desks had the hole for the ink well but they were gone. Speaking of tur ing 65, are you all signed up for Medicare? Its not a bad deal. |
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On 7/11/2018 11:19 AM, l not -l wrote:
> Today, I still do some hand written communication, thank yous, condolences, > special occasions, etc; but, there are far fewer occasions than previously. > IME, hand written notes recognizing accomplishments or other notable events > are even more treasured/appreciated today than ever before. We get Christmas cards with pre-printed names. They are appreciated, but i feel like just part of a mailing list. The ones that have a sentence or two mean much more to me as the person really cares. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
... > On 7/11/2018 10:44 AM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> >> On a side note... even though we had a bountiful supply of cheap >> ballpoint pens at work, I always used me own pens. I would buy Parker >> ball point pens. I found them more comfortable to hold and they could be >> used upside down for a few words, which was handy at work. A cartridge >> would last me for months, compared to stick pens which usually went >> missing withing a couple hours. > > I used Parker for years and I also had a pen custom turned that uses > Parker refills but is a little fatter. > > I also have a Cross slide open cartridge pen that is short and is in my > pocket all the time. Rare that you will find me with no pen if I have > clothes on. I use a Pilot with Mont Blanc refills, you just have to trim a bit off the end of the refill for them to fit perfectly. ![]() Cheri |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
... > On 7/11/2018 11:19 AM, l not -l wrote: > >> Today, I still do some hand written communication, thank yous, >> condolences, >> special occasions, etc; but, there are far fewer occasions than >> previously. >> IME, hand written notes recognizing accomplishments or other notable >> events >> are even more treasured/appreciated today than ever before. > > We get Christmas cards with pre-printed names. They are appreciated, but > i feel like just part of a mailing list. The ones that have a sentence or > two mean much more to me as the person really cares. I feel the same way about Christmas cards, and I really hate those printed newsletters that some people send out. Geez, you would think these people live with nothing but rainbows and sparkling streams. Cheri |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:31:35 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 7/11/2018 11:19 AM, l not -l wrote: > >> Today, I still do some hand written communication, thank yous, condolences, >> special occasions, etc; but, there are far fewer occasions than previously. >> IME, hand written notes recognizing accomplishments or other notable events >> are even more treasured/appreciated today than ever before. > >We get Christmas cards with pre-printed names. They are appreciated, >but i feel like just part of a mailing list. The ones that have a >sentence or two mean much more to me as the person really cares. The day I start sending out Christmas cards to people, I'll also start wearing ties and take a purple perm. |
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On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 7:08:28 PM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> > We were taught to write alphabet letters on a sand tray; then write > them on a slate with chalk, and finally write them in pencil on paper. > The paper was lined and each letter had to fit between lines in a > uniform size. When we had got the hang of that, we were thrilled to be > issued with dip pens, a piece of blotting paper and an inkwell each, > filled with ink (the inkwells were brought round on a tray, and each > desk had a hole to put one in.) We often blotted our work until we > learned to control the nib. Then we were taught, in ink, what we all > called "joined up writing > At the end of each writing lesson the inkwells were collected up again. > The ink in them, was made by mixing powder with water in a jug. It smelt > terrible. > > Only when we had mastered cursive writing with a dip pen, were we > allowed to use a fountain pen.It was a proud day when the teacher wrote > in your handwriting excercise book "You may bring a fountain pen to > school." > > I still use a fountain pen to sign typed letters and personal cards. > > Janet UK > > I guess each country, province/state all had their ways of introducing us to cursive writing. I was introduced to it in the third grade and re- member the lined paper but no dip pens, ink wells, sand trays, or slate. |
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On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:51:48 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
> > The day I start sending out Christmas cards to people, I'll also start > wearing ties and take a purple perm. > > I admit to sending out about a dozen or so Christmas cards and like Ed, I add just a line or two. |
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> wrote in message
... > On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:51:48 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote: >> >> The day I start sending out Christmas cards to people, I'll also start >> wearing ties and take a purple perm. >> >> > I admit to sending out about a dozen or so Christmas cards and like Ed, I > add just a line or two. We used to send out a lot, but now, like you, only about a dozen or so. DH's aunt in Texas just passed away last month at 97, and every year without fail, a Christmas card from her, shaky handwriting the past few years, but always a handwritten note. Those mean something to me, and in cursive too. ;-) Cheri |
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![]() "Cheri" > wrote in message news ![]() > > wrote in message > ... >> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:51:48 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote: >>> >>> The day I start sending out Christmas cards to people, I'll also start >>> wearing ties and take a purple perm. >>> >>> >> I admit to sending out about a dozen or so Christmas cards and like Ed, I >> add just a line or two. > > > > We used to send out a lot, but now, like you, only about a dozen or so. > DH's aunt in Texas just passed away last month at 97, and every year > without fail, a Christmas card from her, shaky handwriting the past few > years, but always a handwritten note. Those mean something to me, and in > cursive too. ;-) I didn't send any last year and I'd just as soon not get any. They seem rather meaningless these days. I barely look at them. If there is a letter, it's usually the generic kind and I know all of the stuff in it anyway. Mostly I get caught up with things on social media. Cards are so expensive nowadays and I rarely find one with the sentiment I want. Once in a while I will make one. By hand. Not computer generated. |
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On 2018-07-12 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message > We used to send out a lot, but now, like you, only about a dozen or so. > DH's aunt in Texas just passed away last month at 97, and every year > without fail, a Christmas card from her, shaky handwriting the past few > years, but always a handwritten note. Those mean something to me, and in > cursive too. ;-) My wife spends a lot of time and a lot of money sending cards to people we never see and never hear from. She even sends cards to her father's friends overseas, and he died 25 years ago. |
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On 7/11/2018 8:46 AM, wrote:
> Have you used the Palmer final t yet? Not that I am aware of. What is it? > I'm thinking it was the Palmer method of cursive writing that was > taught when I was in school. Every lower case letter starts ON > the line. Sounds about right and looks like what I learned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmer_Method nb |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:36:20 -0400, wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:27:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. > >wrote: snip >>> >>Ahh, thinking back to the days of the slide ruler. > >No "r". I found the slide rule frustrating. I knew that right after I hit 'send.' |
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In article >,
says... > > On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:33:09 +0100, Janet > wrote: > > >In article >, penmart01 > says... > >> > >> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 08:22:04 -0400, Nancy Young > > >> wrote: > >> > >> >On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote: > >> >> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> > > >> >>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws > >> >>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html > >> >>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile > >> >>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash > >> >>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about > >> >>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in > >> >>> waters around the globe each year. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with > >> >> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment. > >> > > >> >I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised > >> >to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper. Worked just fine. > >> > > >> >nancy > >> > >> Growing up all straws were paper. Actually safetywise paper straws > >> are mush better, same as how some lollypops have paper sticks. > > > > In the last three days I've hunted high and low for oldfashioned > >wooden lolly sticks so the grands could make ice lollies. Younger shop > >assistants looked blank, and one told me " Nobody makes their own ice > >lollies these days; just buy some from the freezer section". I finally > >tracked sticks down in Glasgow in a specialist kitchen shop. Whatever > >happened to the simple things in life. > > > > Last night we mashed strawberries with yoghurt, froze it on sticks in > >pots and the grands have just eaten them. Tomorrow, banana lollies. > > > > Janet UK > > See thread on Amazon, wooden popsicle sticks are available (in colors) > in both the grocery and arts and crafts section. Thanks, helpers. I could hardly believe they aren't still sold off-the-shelf in every smkt, newsagent shop etc. Like last time I bought some to make lollies for kids, which was only about a quarter century ago. Janet UK |
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On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 12:22:31 PM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says... > > > > On 2018-07-11 6:41 AM, S Viemeister wrote: > > > On 7/11/2018 11:37 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > >> Things must have changed in the generation between you and me.Â* I learned > > >> to write cursive with a pencil. > > >> > > > As did I. > > > We started to use dip pens after learning cursive, then we were allowed > > > to use fountain pens. None of my classes allowed ball-points. > > > > > Furthermore, we were taught how to hold a pen or pencil. > > So were we, and there was ONLY ONE right way. Along with correct > physical posture at the desk. I'm extremely grateful that my teachers didn't attempt to make me right-handed, or mess with my grip. I got plenty of practice writing lines for talking out of turn. Cindy Hamilton |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Speaking of turning 65, are you all signed up for Medicare? Its not a > bad deal. Yes I am, Ed. I took a risk for many years (and won) but 65 was time to get back in the loop. ![]() |
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Cheri wrote:
> > "Gary" > wrote in message ... > > > gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in > > RFC. ![]() > > It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles, green > bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed pizza > mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-) heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm still kicking too. :-D |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote: >> >> "Gary" > wrote in message >> ... >> >> > gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in >> > RFC. ![]() >> >> It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles, >> green >> bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed >> pizza >> mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-) > > heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the > green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm > still kicking too. :-D Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the old days. Cheri |
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On 7/12/2018 1:58 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> Speaking of turning 65, are you all signed up for Medicare? Its not a >> bad deal. > > Yes I am, Ed. I took a risk for many years (and won) but 65 was > time to get back in the loop. ![]() > Good for you. Nice to have coverage as we get older. |
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On 2018-07-12 2:12 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message >>> It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles, >>> green >>> bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed >>> pizza >>> mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-) >> >> heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the >> green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm >> still kicking too.Â* :-D > > > Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the > old days. Looking at that list of food there is not much I am interested in eating. The only exception would be the famous green bean casserole, something that I only had twice in my life and not until 11-12 years ago. I had heard about it but never tried it. It sounded revolting but turned out to be surprisingly good. |
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Cheri wrote:
> > Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the old > days. Well happy belated birthday to you! I swear someday I'll try the green bean casserole. I'm sure I'll like it. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:18:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, >says... >> >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:33:09 +0100, Janet > wrote: >> >> >In article >, penmart01 >> says... >> >> >> >> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 08:22:04 -0400, Nancy Young > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> > >> >> >>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws >> >> >>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html >> >> >>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile >> >> >>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash >> >> >>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about >> >> >>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in >> >> >>> waters around the globe each year. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with >> >> >> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment. >> >> > >> >> >I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised >> >> >to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper. Worked just fine. >> >> > >> >> >nancy >> >> >> >> Growing up all straws were paper. Actually safetywise paper straws >> >> are mush better, same as how some lollypops have paper sticks. >> > >> > In the last three days I've hunted high and low for oldfashioned >> >wooden lolly sticks so the grands could make ice lollies. Younger shop >> >assistants looked blank, and one told me " Nobody makes their own ice >> >lollies these days; just buy some from the freezer section". I finally >> >tracked sticks down in Glasgow in a specialist kitchen shop. Whatever >> >happened to the simple things in life. >> > >> > Last night we mashed strawberries with yoghurt, froze it on sticks in >> >pots and the grands have just eaten them. Tomorrow, banana lollies. >> > >> > Janet UK >> >> See thread on Amazon, wooden popsicle sticks are available (in colors) >> in both the grocery and arts and crafts section. > > Thanks, helpers. > > I could hardly believe they aren't still sold off-the-shelf in every >smkt, newsagent shop etc. Like last time I bought some to make lollies >for kids, which was only about a quarter century ago. > > > Janet UK I stocked up the last time I found some because they were disappearing from the shelves. That's been many years ago. I'm glad you brought it up because I now know where to get them |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote: >> >> Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the >> old >> days. > > Well happy belated birthday to you! > I swear someday I'll try the green bean casserole. I'm sure I'll > like it. Thanks Gary, they come much faster these days. ![]() Cheri |
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"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
... > On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:18:26 +0100, Janet > wrote: > >>In article >, >>says... >>> >>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:33:09 +0100, Janet > wrote: >>> >>> >In article >, penmart01 >>> says... >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 08:22:04 -0400, Nancy Young > >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote: >>> >> >> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws >>> >> >>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html >>> >> >>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more >>> >> >>> high-profile >>> >> >>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic >>> >> >>> trash >>> >> >>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to >>> >> >>> about >>> >> >>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that >>> >> >>> ends up in >>> >> >>> waters around the globe each year. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a >>> >> >> straw with >>> >> >> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment. >>> >> > >>> >> >I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised >>> >> >to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper. Worked just fine. >>> >> > >>> >> >nancy >>> >> >>> >> Growing up all straws were paper. Actually safetywise paper straws >>> >> are mush better, same as how some lollypops have paper sticks. >>> > >>> > In the last three days I've hunted high and low for oldfashioned >>> >wooden lolly sticks so the grands could make ice lollies. Younger shop >>> >assistants looked blank, and one told me " Nobody makes their own ice >>> >lollies these days; just buy some from the freezer section". I finally >>> >tracked sticks down in Glasgow in a specialist kitchen shop. Whatever >>> >happened to the simple things in life. >>> > >>> > Last night we mashed strawberries with yoghurt, froze it on sticks in >>> >pots and the grands have just eaten them. Tomorrow, banana lollies. >>> > >>> > Janet UK >>> >>> See thread on Amazon, wooden popsicle sticks are available (in colors) >>> in both the grocery and arts and crafts section. >> >> Thanks, helpers. >> >> I could hardly believe they aren't still sold off-the-shelf in every >>smkt, newsagent shop etc. Like last time I bought some to make lollies >>for kids, which was only about a quarter century ago. >> >> >> Janet UK > > I stocked up the last time I found some because they were disappearing > from the shelves. That's been many years ago. I'm glad you brought > it up because I now know where to get them You can buy 1000 for about 6-7 dollars at Walmart, I believe Amazon sells them in the 1000 pack too, enough for a lifetime for me. ![]() Cheri |
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On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:53:37 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > On 7/11/2018 8:46 AM, wrote: > > > Have you used the Palmer final t yet? > > Not that I am aware of. What is it? > > > I'm thinking it was the Palmer method of cursive writing that was > > taught when I was in school. Every lower case letter starts ON > > the line. > > Sounds about right and looks like what I learned: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmer_Method > > nb > > From the link you provided I snagged this picture. Read the letter and look at the word I've drawn a circle around. That ending t is a Palmer final t. https://s22.postimg.cc/i7sfb15ap/Palmer_Final_T.png |
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![]() "Cheri" wrote in message news ![]() "Gary" > wrote in message ... > Cheri wrote: >> >> "Gary" > wrote in message >> ... >> >> > gasp! older than old people still hanging on to life here in >> > RFC. ![]() >> >> It's from eating all that great food from the past, tuna casseroles, >> green >> bean casseroles, fish sticks, Jell-O salads, Spam, Potted Meat, boxed >> pizza >> mix, Chef Boyardee, McDonald's and so on. ;-) > > heheh...I've been there, done that with all above except for the > green bean casserole. The menu seems to work well enough. I'm > still kicking too. :-D Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the old days. Cheri === Happy belated birthday, Cheri. I hope you had a really good one ![]() |
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On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 8:22:58 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > Looking at that list of food there is not much I am interested in > eating. The only exception would be the famous green bean casserole, > something that I only had twice in my life and not until 11-12 years > ago. I had heard about it but never tried it. It sounded revolting but > turned out to be surprisingly good. I never had this famous dish until recently either. It tasted like canned beans to me. That's not a good thing. My son likes it just fine and will make a big batch of green bean casserole to take to parties. It's what he's famous for - sheesh! |
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On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 8:22:58 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: > > > > Looking at that list of food there is not much I am interested in > > eating. The only exception would be the famous green bean casserole, > > something that I only had twice in my life and not until 11-12 years > > ago. I had heard about it but never tried it. It sounded revolting but > > turned out to be surprisingly good. > > I never had this famous dish until recently either. It tasted like canned beans to me. That's not a good thing. My son likes it just fine and will make a big batch of green bean casserole to take to parties. It's what he's famous for - sheesh! > > I was very unimpressed with the green bean casserole as well. If I never have it again it won't be too soon. |
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