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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 15:21:32 -0400, jmcquown >
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>No, those six-pack plastic canned drink ring holders were discarded and
>wound up in the ocean wrapped around the necks of birds that were trying
>to *eat* the baby sea turtles. Why do they wind up in the ocean?
>
>Have you no sense of responsiblity? We don't need straws in order to
>drink beverages, hot or cold. Children should be able to drink from a
>cup or a glass without a straw. I know they can.
>
>Here's a memory of mine. It was around 1964. I was at the next door
>neighbor's house with my Mom while she was visiting her friend. Mom's
>friend Peggy had a daughter (Karen). I was four, she was all of six or
>seven. Karen poured us both a glass of juice. And she told me, "Don't
>ever try to take a drink when you're walking down the stairs." (That's
>where our mother's were, watching TV in the basement family room.)
>
>It's funny to think about a six or 7 year old teaching me how not to
>spill a glass of juice. But there were no straws. No plastic caps on
>top. Just plastic tumblers filled with (IIRC) grape juice. We managed
>without straws. Didn't spill them, either. It's a good rule not to
>drink and walk down stairs at the same time. LOL
>
>> Think about it.....how many sea turtles are going to get a straw
>> up it's nostril.

>
>You seem to be obsessed with sea turtles and straws and nostrils.
>
>To me, straws have always been unnecessary. Since, apparently, age 4.


Excerpt from "Straws and Me, a novel by Jill McQuown.
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On 7/13/2018 3:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/13/2018 12:27 PM, Lesmond wrote:


>> Agggguuuuuuurrrggghhhh!
>>
>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once.
>> Yes,
>> he found out the hard way.
>>

> Scorpions in Florida?Â* Sorry, but I tend to think of scorpions as SW
> desert invertebrates.Â* Are you sure you meant a scorpion?


Horseshoe crabs are most closely related to scorpions, so I'd think
it's likely they'd be in wetter areas.

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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "Lesmond" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:55:25 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>On 7/13/2018 2:37 AM, Lesmond wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:35:44 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/10/2018 12:48 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> A super long handled 'straw brush' does a great job of washing that
>>>>>> tube,
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never seen those. Would make me feel better about those
>>>>> fancy crazy straws people have.
>>>>
>>>>
https://www.amazon.com/Hiware-Drinki...hie/dp/B01DZVR
>>>> Y22/ref=pd_sim_201_3?_encoding=UT
>>>
>>>I should have assumed something like that existed, cool.
>>>
>>>A friend's husband had a bad experience, his mother would rinse
>>>straws and save them. It ended badl for him one day when he used
>>>one and ... how shall I say ... a straw shaped invertebrate had
>>>taken up residence. Heh.
>>>
>>>Stuff of my nightmares.

>>
>> Agggguuuuuuurrrggghhhh!
>>
>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once.
>> Yes,
>> he found out the hard way.

>
> Damn, that trumps a fly in my iced tea finding the hard way too. ACCCCCK.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> But, but, but it was good protein ... ;p


Noooooooooooo, I spat it out!!! Yuck, it's still disgusting to me even
though it happened at least 30 years ago. LOL

Cheri

==

I do believe you )

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On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 2:58:32 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
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> On 7/13/2018 3:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > Scorpions in Florida?Â* Sorry, but I tend to think of scorpions as SW
> > desert invertebrates.Â* Are you sure you meant a scorpion?

>
> Horseshoe crabs are most closely related to scorpions, so I'd think
> it's likely they'd be in wetter areas.
>
> Nancy
>
>

Scorpions are in Tennessee so I think they would be almost anywhere
the climate is suitable.

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 21:11:11 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 13-Jul-2018, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> On Fri 13 Jul 2018 06:55:25a, Nancy Young told us...
>>
>> > On 7/13/2018 2:37 AM, Lesmond wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:35:44 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 7/10/2018 12:48 PM, wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> A super long handled 'straw brush' does a great job of washing
>> >>>> that tube, too.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have never seen those. Would make me feel better about those
>> >>> fancy crazy straws people have.
>> >>
>> >>
https://www.amazon.com/Hiware-Drinki...aning-Smoothie
>> >> /dp/B01DZVR Y22/ref=pd_sim_201_3?_encoding=UT
>> >
>> > I should have assumed something like that existed, cool.
>> >
>> > A friend's husband had a bad experience, his mother would rinse
>> > straws and save them. It ended badl for him one day when he used
>> > one and ... how shall I say ... a straw shaped invertebrate had
>> > taken up residence. Heh.
>> >
>> > Stuff of my nightmares.
>> >
>> > nancy
>> >

>>
>> We have a handful of the hard plastic straws that come with
>> Starbuck's insulated cold cups. We wash those in the dishwasher,
>> then store them in a ziplock bag.


>I don't eat fast food often, maybe a couple of times per month.


That's not often?


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On 2018-07-13 12:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/13/2018 12:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>

>
>> I had my plait dipped in ink!Â* Wrecked the ribbon!
>>
>>

> Okay, I believe you and Dave!Â* I think I first read about the idea in
> the book Tomy Sawyer (written by Mark Twain aka Samuel Clemens).Â* Maybe
> that's where all those boys got the idea. LOL


I don't know for sure where I got the idea. It happened over 50 years
ago. It seemed harmless enough at the time. It was a surprise to me
when she jerked forward, yanking the braid out of my hand (and inkwell)
and swayed back and forth like a paint brush across her her white blouse.

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On 2018-07-13 12:37 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 9:17 AM, Cheri wrote:


>> Same here, a pencil.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> What about those big fat pencils they gave us in Kindergarten?Â* I didn't
> think about it at the time because I didn't know any better.Â* In
> hindsight it seems like they must be harder for little fingers to hold
> correctly. <shrug>


I thought the reason for the big pencils was that they were easier for
little fingers to hold.

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On 2018-07-13 12:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Lesmond" > wrote in message


>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once.
>> Yes,
>> he found out the hard way.

>
> Damn, that trumps a fly in my iced tea finding the hard way too. ACCCCCK.



I can imagine. I got stung in the mouth last fall and am now supposed to
carry an epi pen. That wasp got me three times, twice on the tongue and
one on the inside of my lip. It swelled up quite a bit. The big
surprise to me was that it didn't hurt much.


My uncle told me a funny story about a fly in a cocktail in a nice
restaurant on their street where they ate frequently. A fly landed in
his sister in law's drink. He called the waiter over and said he was
sorry, but they seemed to have captured the bar's pet fly. The waiter
apologized and scooted off and then came back with a white towel over
his arm and two silver spoons, which he used very deftly to pick the fly
out of the drink.

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On 2018-07-13 3:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/13/2018 12:27 PM, Lesmond wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:55:25 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/13/2018 2:37 AM, Lesmond wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:35:44 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/10/2018 12:48 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> A super long handled 'straw brush' does a great job of washing
>>>>>> that tube,
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never seen those.Â* Would make me feel better about those
>>>>> fancy crazy straws people have.
>>>>
>>>>
https://www.amazon.com/Hiware-Drinki...hie/dp/B01DZVR
>>>>
>>>> Y22/ref=pd_sim_201_3?_encoding=UT
>>>
>>> I should have assumed something like that existed, cool.
>>>
>>> A friend's husband had a bad experience, his mother would rinse
>>> straws and save them.Â* It ended badl for him one day when he used
>>> one and ... how shall I say ... a straw shaped invertebrate had
>>> taken up residence.Â* Heh.
>>>
>>> Stuff of my nightmares.

>>
>> Agggguuuuuuurrrggghhhh!
>>
>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once.
>> Yes,
>> he found out the hard way.
>>

> Scorpions in Florida?Â* Sorry, but I tend to think of scorpions as SW
> desert invertebrates.Â* Are you sure you meant a scorpion?
>


Actually, Jill, there are scorpions in Florida. There are also scorpions
in North and South Carolina.


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On 7/13/2018 6:08 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-07-13 3:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/13/2018 12:27 PM, Lesmond wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:55:25 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/13/2018 2:37 AM, Lesmond wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:35:44 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/10/2018 12:48 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> A super long handled 'straw brush' does a great job of washing
>>>>>>> that tube,
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never seen those.Â* Would make me feel better about those
>>>>>> fancy crazy straws people have.
>>>>>
>>>>>
https://www.amazon.com/Hiware-Drinki...hie/dp/B01DZVR
>>>>>
>>>>> Y22/ref=pd_sim_201_3?_encoding=UT
>>>>
>>>> I should have assumed something like that existed, cool.
>>>>
>>>> A friend's husband had a bad experience, his mother would rinse
>>>> straws and save them.Â* It ended badl for him one day when he used
>>>> one and ... how shall I say ... a straw shaped invertebrate had
>>>> taken up residence.Â* Heh.
>>>>
>>>> Stuff of my nightmares.
>>>
>>> Agggguuuuuuurrrggghhhh!
>>>
>>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once.
>>> Yes,
>>> he found out the hard way.
>>>

>> Scorpions in Florida?Â* Sorry, but I tend to think of scorpions as SW
>> desert invertebrates.Â* Are you sure you meant a scorpion?
>>

>
> Actually, Jill, there are scorpions in Florida. There are also scorpions
> in North and South Carolina.
>
>

Okay... I've just never seen them. Not even in Tennessee. I do recall
seeing them (rarely) when I lived in Southern California but that was 50
years ago.

Jill


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> On 2018-07-13 12:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Lesmond" > wrote in message

>
>>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once.
>>> Yes,
>>> he found out the hard way.

>>
>> Damn, that trumps a fly in my iced tea finding the hard way too. ACCCCCK.

>
>
> I can imagine. I got stung in the mouth last fall and am now supposed to
> carry an epi pen. That wasp got me three times, twice on the tongue and
> one on the inside of my lip. It swelled up quite a bit. The big
> surprise to me was that it didn't hurt much.
>
>
> My uncle told me a funny story about a fly in a cocktail in a nice
> restaurant on their street where they ate frequently. A fly landed in his
> sister in law's drink. He called the waiter over and said he was sorry,
> but they seemed to have captured the bar's pet fly. The waiter apologized
> and scooted off and then came back with a white towel over his arm and two
> silver spoons, which he used very deftly to pick the fly out of the drink.



I remember that, I felt very sorry for you even if we weren't communicating
much then.

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jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 2:20 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Wed 11 Jul 2018 11:01:35a, notbob told us...
>>
>>> On 7/11/2018 11:57 AM, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Furthermore, we were taught how to hold a pen or pencil. Some of
>>>> the cumbersome ways kids handle them these days is testimony to
>>>> falling standards.
>>>
>>> BUT! .....can you touch-type?
>>>
>>> nb
>>>

>>
>> YEP! My dad bought an old reconditioned typewriter (Underwood, I
>> think) the summer before I entered 7th grade. He bribed me into
>> learning to type. To insure that I wasn't looking at the letters on
>> the keyboard, he removed the letters from the keys and put a keyboard
>> chart on the wall above the typewriter. By the end of summer I was
>> typing 65 woreds per minute with no errors. Back in the day, typing
>> on an IBM Selectric II typwriter, I could easily type 120 word per
>> minute.
>>

> I took typing classes in school (yes, an IBM Selectric). Same thing,
> don't look at the keys, look at the text you're transcribing. I got
> to be very fast. With computers it's even easier since you can see
> what you're typing as you type it. Of course making corrections is
> easier, too.
>
> Jill


That insight is simply amazing!

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 20:54:54 -0400, Alex > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/11/2018 2:20 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>> YEP! My dad bought an old reconditioned typewriter (Underwood, I
>>> think) the summer before I entered 7th grade. He bribed me into
>>> learning to type. To insure that I wasn't looking at the letters on
>>> the keyboard, he removed the letters from the keys and put a keyboard
>>> chart on the wall above the typewriter. By the end of summer I was
>>> typing 65 woreds per minute with no errors. Back in the day, typing
>>> on an IBM Selectric II typwriter, I could easily type 120 word per
>>> minute.
>>>

>> I took typing classes in school (yes, an IBM Selectric). Same thing,
>> don't look at the keys, look at the text you're transcribing. I got
>> to be very fast. With computers it's even easier since you can see
>> what you're typing as you type it. Of course making corrections is
>> easier, too.
>>
>> Jill

>
>That insight is simply amazing!


If it wasn't for pioneers like Jill, humanity would keep going around
in circles!
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On 7/13/2018 11:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> I still can't figure out why fat pencils would have made it easier for
> little hands at age 5 to learn how to print.* But learn I did, so I
> guess it worked.


I never saw an oversized pencil until I saw one at a bowling alley.

Remember when you still hadda manually keep score at bowling alley's.

Best method to learn addition, ever. Bowlers wanted to know their
running score, yesterday!

nb

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On 7/13/2018 10:19 AM, Gary wrote:

> Screw
> the damn sea turtles.


I'm pretty sure we already have!

nb



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On 2018-07-14 9:32 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 7/13/2018 11:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I still can't figure out why fat pencils would have made it easier for
>> little hands at age 5 to learn how to print.Â* But learn I did, so I
>> guess it worked.

>
> I never saw an oversized pencil until I saw one at a bowling alley.
>
> Remember when you still hadda manually keep score at bowling alley's.
>
> Best method to learn addition, ever.Â* Bowlers wanted to know their
> running score, yesterday!Â*


I learned to add quickly by using a calculator. I would enter the
numbers and figure the sum in my head quickly and check my answers. If
the sums didn't match one of us had made a mistake. It was either my
mental addition or my number entry. I also credit playing cribbage for
my quick adding.



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notbob wrote:
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> Remember when you still hadda manually keep score at bowling alley's.


heheh Last time I went to a bowling alley (mid-1970's) you DID
have to keep score manually.
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notbob wrote:
>
> On 7/13/2018 10:19 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> > Screw
> > the damn sea turtles.

>
> I'm pretty sure we already have!
>
> nb


One year (mid 70's), I was way down the beach in Back Bay
National Wildlife Refuge (Virginia Beach) early one morning. As I
was walking south I noticed large flock of seagulls flying all
over the beach ahead. It was sea turtle babies hatching day (or
days?) there. They were popping out of the sand everywhere and
crawling across the sand to the ocean. Hundreds of them!

The seagulls were having a feast. That's nature but I did stay
quite awhile trying to scare off the seagulls. Didn't help much
but I tried. I was able to "escort" small groups of them at a
time. They move like a slow-walking human speed but that's pretty
fast for the little ones.

Needless to say, I skipped the surfing that morning. That might
have even saved my life as I'm sure there were predators waiting
in the water for them too..
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"Gary" wrote in message ...

notbob wrote:
>
> On 7/13/2018 10:19 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> > Screw
> > the damn sea turtles.

>
> I'm pretty sure we already have!
>
> nb


One year (mid 70's), I was way down the beach in Back Bay
National Wildlife Refuge (Virginia Beach) early one morning. As I
was walking south I noticed large flock of seagulls flying all
over the beach ahead. It was sea turtle babies hatching day (or
days?) there. They were popping out of the sand everywhere and
crawling across the sand to the ocean. Hundreds of them!

The seagulls were having a feast. That's nature but I did stay
quite awhile trying to scare off the seagulls. Didn't help much
but I tried. I was able to "escort" small groups of them at a
time. They move like a slow-walking human speed but that's pretty
fast for the little ones.

Needless to say, I skipped the surfing that morning. That might
have even saved my life as I'm sure there were predators waiting
in the water for them too..

==

Brilliant Well, I guess you know what you have done for the Sea
Turtles)


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On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 6:23:29 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> notbob wrote:
> >
> > On 7/13/2018 10:19 AM, Gary wrote:
> >
> > > Screw
> > > the damn sea turtles.

> >
> > I'm pretty sure we already have!
> >
> > nb

>
> One year (mid 70's), I was way down the beach in Back Bay
> National Wildlife Refuge (Virginia Beach) early one morning. As I
> was walking south I noticed large flock of seagulls flying all
> over the beach ahead. It was sea turtle babies hatching day (or
> days?) there. They were popping out of the sand everywhere and
> crawling across the sand to the ocean. Hundreds of them!
>
> The seagulls were having a feast. That's nature but I did stay
> quite awhile trying to scare off the seagulls. Didn't help much
> but I tried. I was able to "escort" small groups of them at a
> time. They move like a slow-walking human speed but that's pretty
> fast for the little ones.
>
> Needless to say, I skipped the surfing that morning. That might
> have even saved my life as I'm sure there were predators waiting
> in the water for them too..


Well that sounds horrible. Nature sucks.


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In article >, Cheri >
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> Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the old
> days.


You beat me by a month and a couple of weeks.

leo
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> In article >, Cheri >
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, just turned 72 and still like a whole lot of those foods from the
>> old
>> days.

>
> You beat me by a month and a couple of weeks.
>
> leo



I will be glad to let you beat me to it next year. ;-)

Cheri

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> I will be glad to let you beat me ...


Hmmm...isn't there a word for people like you?
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 15:23:24 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

>On 7/13/2018 12:27 PM, Lesmond wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:55:25 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/13/2018 2:37 AM, Lesmond wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:35:44 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/10/2018 12:48 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> A super long handled 'straw brush' does a great job of washing that tube,
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never seen those. Would make me feel better about those
>>>>> fancy crazy straws people have.
>>>>
>>>>
https://www.amazon.com/Hiware-Drinki...hie/dp/B01DZVR
>>>> Y22/ref=pd_sim_201_3?_encoding=UT
>>>
>>> I should have assumed something like that existed, cool.
>>>
>>> A friend's husband had a bad experience, his mother would rinse
>>> straws and save them. It ended badl for him one day when he used
>>> one and ... how shall I say ... a straw shaped invertebrate had
>>> taken up residence. Heh.
>>>
>>> Stuff of my nightmares.

>>
>> Agggguuuuuuurrrggghhhh!
>>
>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once. Yes,
>> he found out the hard way.
>>

>Scorpions in Florida? Sorry, but I tend to think of scorpions as SW
>desert invertebrates. Are you sure you meant a scorpion?


I'm sure he meant a scorpion:

http://www.floridiannature.com/scorpions.htm

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 12:53:48 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>On 7/13/2018 12:27 PM, Lesmond wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:55:25 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>
>>> A friend's husband had a bad experience, his mother would rinse
>>> straws and save them. It ended badl for him one day when he used
>>> one and ... how shall I say ... a straw shaped invertebrate had
>>> taken up residence. Heh.
>>>
>>> Stuff of my nightmares.

>>
>> Agggguuuuuuurrrggghhhh!
>>
>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once. Yes,
>> he found out the hard way.

>
>NO! Ouch. Yikes.


It didn't sting him, luckily.

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 18:02:47 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

>On 2018-07-13 12:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Lesmond" > wrote in message

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>>> My husband grew up in Florida and had a scorpion in his snorkel once.
>>> Yes,
>>> he found out the hard way.

>>
>> Damn, that trumps a fly in my iced tea finding the hard way too. ACCCCCK.

>
>
>I can imagine. I got stung in the mouth last fall and am now supposed to
>carry an epi pen. That wasp got me three times, twice on the tongue and
>one on the inside of my lip. It swelled up quite a bit. The big
>surprise to me was that it didn't hurt much.


I can't imagine it not hurting.
>
>
>My uncle told me a funny story about a fly in a cocktail in a nice
>restaurant on their street where they ate frequently. A fly landed in
>his sister in law's drink. He called the waiter over and said he was
>sorry, but they seemed to have captured the bar's pet fly. The waiter
>apologized and scooted off and then came back with a white towel over
>his arm and two silver spoons, which he used very deftly to pick the fly
>out of the drink.


He didn't replace the drink?!

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On 2018-07-16 1:04 AM, Lesmond wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 18:02:47 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2018-07-13 12:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Lesmond" > wrote in message


>>> Damn, that trumps a fly in my iced tea finding the hard way too. ACCCCCK.

>>
>>
>> I can imagine. I got stung in the mouth last fall and am now supposed to
>> carry an epi pen. That wasp got me three times, twice on the tongue and
>> one on the inside of my lip. It swelled up quite a bit. The big
>> surprise to me was that it didn't hurt much.

>
> I can't imagine it not hurting.


I felt it stinging and expected it to be very very painful, especially
since it got me in three places on the tongue and inner lip. I was not
far from the hospital and was treated within minutes of arrival. The
treatment was very effective. The swelling started to go down. After
that is was more like the tail end of dental freezing.

I can tell you that when you are biting on a hornet it has the texture
of the topping of a creme brulle.

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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:05:53 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-07-16 1:04 AM, Lesmond wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 18:02:47 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-07-13 12:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Lesmond" > wrote in message

>
>>>> Damn, that trumps a fly in my iced tea finding the hard way too. ACCCCCK.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can imagine. I got stung in the mouth last fall and am now supposed to
>>> carry an epi pen. That wasp got me three times, twice on the tongue and
>>> one on the inside of my lip. It swelled up quite a bit. The big
>>> surprise to me was that it didn't hurt much.

>>
>> I can't imagine it not hurting.

>
>I felt it stinging and expected it to be very very painful, especially
>since it got me in three places on the tongue and inner lip. I was not
>far from the hospital and was treated within minutes of arrival. The
>treatment was very effective. The swelling started to go down. After
>that is was more like the tail end of dental freezing.
>
>I can tell you that when you are biting on a hornet it has the texture
>of the topping of a creme brulle.


at this point I am not allergic to bee stings but I always have
antihistamine spray and pills with me. I would normally use them
during allergy season but was told by a doctor that taking a pill when
stung is a good precaution.
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On 2018-07-16 10:43 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:05:53 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-07-16 1:04 AM, Lesmond wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 18:02:47 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-13 12:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "Lesmond" > wrote in message

>>
>>>>> Damn, that trumps a fly in my iced tea finding the hard way too. ACCCCCK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can imagine. I got stung in the mouth last fall and am now supposed to
>>>> carry an epi pen. That wasp got me three times, twice on the tongue and
>>>> one on the inside of my lip. It swelled up quite a bit. The big
>>>> surprise to me was that it didn't hurt much.
>>>
>>> I can't imagine it not hurting.

>>
>> I felt it stinging and expected it to be very very painful, especially
>> since it got me in three places on the tongue and inner lip. I was not
>> far from the hospital and was treated within minutes of arrival. The
>> treatment was very effective. The swelling started to go down. After
>> that is was more like the tail end of dental freezing.
>>
>> I can tell you that when you are biting on a hornet it has the texture
>> of the topping of a creme brulle.

>
> at this point I am not allergic to bee stings but I always have
> antihistamine spray and pills with me. I would normally use them
> during allergy season but was told by a doctor that taking a pill when
> stung is a good precaution.
>


I used to react very mildly. I got stung a lot and had a routine. I
would immediately take a couple Benedryl pills and then make a past of
baking soda and water and smear it on. I usually wheezed a bit after a
sting. I don't know if it was the location and the triple sting that
was the problem or that I have had so many that I now react stronger. At
any rate, I am supposed to carry an epipen and use it immediately. That
could be a real pain in the but because if I use it I have to go to the
hospital.
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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I used to react very mildly. I got stung a lot and had a routine. I
> would immediately take a couple Benedryl pills and then make a past of
> baking soda and water and smear it on. I usually wheezed a bit after a
> sting. I don't know if it was the location and the triple sting that
> was the problem or that I have had so many that I now react stronger. At
> any rate, I am supposed to carry an epipen and use it immediately. That
> could be a real pain in the but because if I use it I have to go to the
> hospital.


My young daughter had "suspect" bee sting allergy. Just to be
safe doctor said to take a benedryl tablet immediately. Said
that's basically what they give you in a shot at the
hospital...just a basic anti-histamine. He also said, immediately
after getting stung, ice the area for about 5 minutes. That keeps
the bee venom localized and after about 5 minutes, the venom
breaks down into harmless chemicals.

I suspect putting a mix of baking soda and water on the sting is
an old myth. Check with Snopes.


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On 2018-07-16 1:20 PM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:


>> any rate, I am supposed to carry an epipen and use it immediately. That
>> could be a real pain in the but because if I use it I have to go to the
>> hospital.

>
> My young daughter had "suspect" bee sting allergy. Just to be
> safe doctor said to take a benedryl tablet immediately. Said
> that's basically what they give you in a shot at the
> hospital...just a basic anti-histamine. He also said, immediately
> after getting stung, ice the area for about 5 minutes. That keeps
> the bee venom localized and after about 5 minutes, the venom
> breaks down into harmless chemicals.



> I suspect putting a mix of baking soda and water on the sting is
> an old myth. Check with Snopes.


The theory is that venom is acidic and the bicarb neutralizes. All I can
say is that it brings some relief. I don't think I have ever been stung
by a bee, just wasps and hornets. Those guys hurt a bit when they
sting, it gets worse, and then it gets itchy. The itchiness seems to get
worse with time.



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On 2018-07-16 11:34 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-07-16 1:20 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:

>
>>> any rate, I am supposed to carry an epipen and use it immediately. That
>>> could be a real pain in the but because if I use it I have to go to the
>>> hospital.

>>
>> My young daughter had "suspect" bee sting allergy. Just to be
>> safe doctor said to take a benedryl tablet immediately. Said
>> that's basically what they give you in a shot at the
>> hospital...just a basic anti-histamine. He also said, immediately
>> after getting stung, ice the area for about 5 minutes. That keeps
>> the bee venom localized and after about 5 minutes, the venom
>> breaks down into harmless chemicals.

>
>
>> I suspect putting a mix of baking soda and water on the sting is
>> an old myth. Check with Snopes.

>
> The theory is that venom is acidic and the bicarb neutralizes. All I can
> say is that it brings some relief.Â* I don't think I have ever been stung
> by a bee, just wasps and hornets.Â* Those guys hurt a bit when they
> sting, it gets worse, and then it gets itchy. The itchiness seems to get
> worse with time.
>
>
>

I'm fortunate, as is one of my sons, that if I get stung by a bee, after
30 minutes I cannot pinpoint where I was stung.
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On 2018-07-16 11:34 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-07-16 1:20 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:

>
>>> any rate, I am supposed to carry an epipen and use it immediately. That
>>> could be a real pain in the but because if I use it I have to go to the
>>> hospital.

>>
>> My young daughter had "suspect" bee sting allergy. Just to be
>> safe doctor said to take a benedryl tablet immediately. Said
>> that's basically what they give you in a shot at the
>> hospital...just a basic anti-histamine. He also said, immediately
>> after getting stung, ice the area for about 5 minutes. That keeps
>> the bee venom localized and after about 5 minutes, the venom
>> breaks down into harmless chemicals.

>
>
>> I suspect putting a mix of baking soda and water on the sting is
>> an old myth. Check with Snopes.

>
> The theory is that venom is acidic and the bicarb neutralizes. All I can
> say is that it brings some relief. I don't think I have ever been stung
> by a bee, just wasps and hornets. Those guys hurt a bit when they sting,
> it gets worse, and then it gets itchy. The itchiness seems to get worse
> with time.
>
>
>

I'm fortunate, as is one of my sons, that if I get stung by a bee, after
30 minutes I cannot pinpoint where I was stung.

==

I don't think I've ever been stung by a bee.. or if I did, I didn't know
it)

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On 2018-07-16 1:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "graham"Â* wrote in message news >
> On 2018-07-16 11:34 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-07-16 1:20 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>>>> any rate, I am supposed to carry an epipen and use it immediately. That
>>>> could be a real pain in the but because if I use it I have to go to the
>>>> hospital.
>>>
>>> My young daughter had "suspect" bee sting allergy. Just to be
>>> safe doctor said to take a benedryl tablet immediately. Said
>>> that's basically what they give you in a shot at the
>>> hospital...just a basic anti-histamine. He also said, immediately
>>> after getting stung, ice the area for about 5 minutes. That keeps
>>> the bee venom localized and after about 5 minutes, the venom
>>> breaks down into harmless chemicals.

>>
>>
>>> I suspect putting a mix of baking soda and water on the sting is
>>> an old myth. Check with Snopes.

>>
>> The theory is that venom is acidic and the bicarb neutralizes. All I can
>> say is that it brings some relief.Â* I don't think I have ever been stung
>> by a bee, just wasps and hornets.Â* Those guys hurt a bit when they sting,
>> it gets worse, and then it gets itchy. The itchiness seems to get worse
>> with time.
>>
>>
>>

> I'm fortunate, as is one of my sons, that if I get stung by a bee, after
> 30 minutes I cannot pinpoint where I was stung.
>
> ==
>
> I don't think I've ever been stungÂ* by a bee.. or if I did, I didn't know
> it)
>

Used to keep bees so a few stings were inevitable, particularly as I
didn't like wearing gloves and, when shaking down for wintering, the veil.
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On 2018-07-16 1:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "graham" wrote in message news >
> On 2018-07-16 11:34 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-07-16 1:20 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>>>> any rate, I am supposed to carry an epipen and use it immediately. That
>>>> could be a real pain in the but because if I use it I have to go to the
>>>> hospital.
>>>
>>> My young daughter had "suspect" bee sting allergy. Just to be
>>> safe doctor said to take a benedryl tablet immediately. Said
>>> that's basically what they give you in a shot at the
>>> hospital...just a basic anti-histamine. He also said, immediately
>>> after getting stung, ice the area for about 5 minutes. That keeps
>>> the bee venom localized and after about 5 minutes, the venom
>>> breaks down into harmless chemicals.

>>
>>
>>> I suspect putting a mix of baking soda and water on the sting is
>>> an old myth. Check with Snopes.

>>
>> The theory is that venom is acidic and the bicarb neutralizes. All I can
>> say is that it brings some relief. I don't think I have ever been stung
>> by a bee, just wasps and hornets. Those guys hurt a bit when they sting,
>> it gets worse, and then it gets itchy. The itchiness seems to get worse
>> with time.
>>
>>
>>

> I'm fortunate, as is one of my sons, that if I get stung by a bee, after
> 30 minutes I cannot pinpoint where I was stung.
>
> ==
>
> I don't think I've ever been stung by a bee.. or if I did, I didn't know
> it)
>

Used to keep bees so a few stings were inevitable, particularly as I
didn't like wearing gloves and, when shaking down for wintering, the veil.

===

Ahh your body has probably become immune then Lucky you




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On 7/16/2018 12:55 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> When I was eating a pear in my uncle's orchard, a yellow jacket
> landed on the pear and then went up one of my nostrils where it stung
> me.


When I was about 3 or 4 yrs old, I came around the corner of our house
where my dad had been trimming a hedge. He'd disturbed a nest of
yellow-jackets and they saw ME! I was stung about 20 times, yet the
last time I was stung by a bee (15 yrs ago), it barely hurt. Go figure!

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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:29:14 -0600, notbob > wrote:

>On 7/16/2018 12:55 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> When I was eating a pear in my uncle's orchard, a yellow jacket
>> landed on the pear and then went up one of my nostrils where it stung
>> me.

>
>When I was about 3 or 4 yrs old, I came around the corner of our house
>where my dad had been trimming a hedge. He'd disturbed a nest of
>yellow-jackets and they saw ME! I was stung about 20 times, yet the
>last time I was stung by a bee (15 yrs ago), it barely hurt. Go figure!


Go figure what, I wonder.
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On 2018-07-16 5:29 PM, notbob wrote:

> When I was about 3 or 4 yrs old, I came around the corner of our house
> where my dad had been trimming a hedge.Â* He'd disturbed a nest of
> yellow-jackets and they saw ME!Â* I was stung about 20 times, yet the
> last time I was stung by a bee (15 yrs ago), it barely hurt.Â* Go figure!
>


The first year we lived here I was out mowing the lawn near where the
swimming pool was. I inadvertently ran over a nest and the buggers came
after me and stung me. I went back at night, sprayed it with wasp and
hornet bomb waited a while, poured some gasoline into it, lit it and
then dug up the nest to make sure it was toasted. The next time I
repeated that when I learned the hard way they had built a new nest
about 10 feet away, so I went through the whole routine again. Then I
repeated it a third time when I discovered they had relocated a third time.

Many year later I was mowing near that same spot and carefully
maneuvered my brand new lawn tractor between the stream and a tree and
there was a cloud of hornets. I had apparently stopped over top of the
nest. I quickly slammed the lawn tractor into reverse. Of course that
involved a safety mechanism that shut off the engine. I had to quickly
remember how to turn off the PTO, put it in neutral, step on the brake
and hit the started. I got off pretty easy with that one.

My next bad encounter happened when I was weed whacking in the stream. I
had the steel blade on and was getting zinged in the legs with bits of
grass and weed and then realized I was being stung. There was a rotten
stump where I was working, a good place for a hornet nest. Another
spray, gas, burn and dig up job.





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> I don't think I've ever been stung by a bee.. or if I did, I didn't know
> it)


I'm pretty sure you would know it.
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> I don't think I've ever been stung by a bee.. or if I did, I didn't know
> it)


I'm pretty sure you would know it.

==

I would have thought so.
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