They are doing this so Gary sees no more turtles suffering from them

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
waters around the globe each year.

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> They are doing this so Gary sees no more turtles suffering from them
>
> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
> waters around the globe each year.

Gotta start somewhere. Straws are, in the main, unnecessary. Might
as well eliminate them. People who need to sip their latte through
a straw will just have to bring one with.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> They are doing this so Gary sees no more turtles suffering from them
>>
>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
>> waters around the globe each year.
>
>Gotta start somewhere. Straws are, in the main, unnecessary. Might
>as well eliminate them. People who need to sip their latte through
>a straw will just have to bring one with.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I grew up with paper straws and wooden ice cream spoons, never saw
plastic til the 6o's. I never saw plastic ball point pens until the
late 50s

wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> They are doing this so Gary sees no more turtles suffering from them
>>>
>>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
>>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
>>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
>>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
>>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
>>> waters around the globe each year.
>>
>> Gotta start somewhere. Straws are, in the main, unnecessary. Might
>> as well eliminate them. People who need to sip their latte through
>> a straw will just have to bring one with.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I grew up with paper straws and wooden ice cream spoons, never saw
> plastic til the 6o's. I never saw plastic ball point pens until the
> late 50s
>

I bet yoose ate with yoose hands back in the good ole days Popeye.

On 2018-07-09 6:29 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>
> I grew up with paper straws and wooden ice cream spoons, never saw
> plastic til the 6o's. I never saw plastic ball point pens until the
> late 50s


Ball point pens were slow off the start and were very expensive in the
1950s. When I was in elementary school we had to learn to write with
stick pens. Once we demonstrated mastery of that we could use fountain
pens, and we used them right through high school. By the time I got to
university Bic pens were cheap.

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:49:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-07-09 6:29 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I grew up with paper straws and wooden ice cream spoons, never saw
>> plastic til the 6o's. I never saw plastic ball point pens until the
>> late 50s
>
>Ball point pens were slow off the start and were very expensive in the
>1950s. When I was in elementary school we had to learn to write with
>stick pens. Once we demonstrated mastery of that we could use fountain
>pens, and we used them right through high school. By the time I got to
>university Bic pens were cheap.

Just the opposite in the US, we learned to write long hand with
fountain pens. When the first ballpoints arrived (Ballerina) they
were much less expensive than fountain pens. The least expensive
fountain pens then cost about $4, Esterbrook. The first ballpoints
cost about 25¢, however they were not yet perfected, they were very
messy as they leaked and their greasy ink took forever to dry.

On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:59:32 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:49:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2018-07-09 6:29 PM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> I grew up with paper straws and wooden ice cream spoons, never saw
>>> plastic til the 6o's. I never saw plastic ball point pens until the
>>> late 50s
>>
>>Ball point pens were slow off the start and were very expensive in the
>>1950s. When I was in elementary school we had to learn to write with
>>stick pens. Once we demonstrated mastery of that we could use fountain
>>pens, and we used them right through high school. By the time I got to
>>university Bic pens were cheap.
>
>Just the opposite in the US, we learned to write long hand with
>fountain pens. When the first ballpoints arrived (Ballerina) they
>were much less expensive than fountain pens. The least expensive
>fountain pens then cost about $4, Esterbrook. The first ballpoints
>cost about 25¢, however they were not yet perfected, they were very
>messy as they leaked and their greasy ink took forever to dry.

I loved having a fountain pen. I had no need for it for school but
kept one anyway. I always filled it with peacock blue ink. I felt so
'smart'
Janet US

On 7/10/2018 2:59 PM, wrote:

> they were very
> messy as they leaked and their greasy ink took forever to dry.

Sounds like late 60's Bic ballpoints (the cheapo yellow one's)

Sure, they wrote "first time, every time", but they began "clumping" (my
word) or "blobbing" (look it up!), after about a week. Hadda toss 'em,
after they reached that point.

nb

On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 4:59:41 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:49:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2018-07-09 6:29 PM, wrote:
> >> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> I grew up with paper straws and wooden ice cream spoons, never saw
> >> plastic til the 6o's. I never saw plastic ball point pens until the
> >> late 50s
> >
> >Ball point pens were slow off the start and were very expensive in the
> >1950s. When I was in elementary school we had to learn to write with
> >stick pens. Once we demonstrated mastery of that we could use fountain
> >pens, and we used them right through high school. By the time I got to
> >university Bic pens were cheap.
>
> Just the opposite in the US, we learned to write long hand with
> fountain pens.

Things must have changed in the generation between you and me. I learned
to write cursive with a pencil.

Cindy Hamilton

Sheldon, I remember those nasty paper straws and wooden spoons too, they were so gross. The paper would stick to your lips and collapse almost instantly, and the wooden spoons, which are still around, feel like sandpaper on your tongue. Someone has to invent a biodegradable straw.

Denise in NH.

wrote:
>
> and the wooden spoons, which are still around, feel like sandpaper on your tongue.
> Denise in NH.

Those wooden spoons always came with a tiny cup of ice cream. I
remember those.

On 2018-07-10 9:01 AM, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>> and the wooden spoons, which are still around, feel like sandpaper on your tongue.
>> Denise in NH.
>
> Those wooden spoons always came with a tiny cup of ice cream. I
> remember those.
>
But you have to cut down trees to make them. It will never end!

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:48:23 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > They are doing this so Gary sees no more turtles suffering from them
> >
> > https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
> > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
> > Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
> > issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
> > by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
> > 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
> > waters around the globe each year.
>
> Gotta start somewhere. Straws are, in the main, unnecessary. Might
> as well eliminate them. People who need to sip their latte through
> a straw will just have to bring one with.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

When you are correct and right you ARE!!

Plastic straws are completely unnecessary! Except maybe medically.

John Kuthe...

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> They are doing this so Gary sees no more turtles suffering from them
>
> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
> waters around the globe each year.
>
>
I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 18:43:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> They are doing this so Gary sees no more turtles suffering from them
>>
>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
>> waters around the globe each year.
>>
>>
>I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
>whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.

I believe they can make balloons of vegetables (vegetable waste) these
days. Why not straws and plastic bags as well? Totally degradable.
Edible even.

On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
>> waters around the globe each year.
>>
>>
> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.

I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised
to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper. Worked just fine.

nancy

On 2018-07-10 8:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
>>>
>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
>>>
>>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
>>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
>>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
>>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
>>> waters around the globe each year.
>>>
>>>
>> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw
>> with
>> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.
>
> I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised
> to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper.Â* Worked just fine.
>

We had paper straws for many years before they started to make them out
of plastic.

On 7/10/2018 8:43 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-07-10 8:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised
>> to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper.Â* Worked just fine.
>>
>
> We had paper straws for many years before they started to make them out
> of plastic.

Exactly. Less plastic works for me.

nancy

On 2018-07-10, Nancy Young > wrote:
> Exactly. Less plastic works for me.
>
> nancy

Same here. 4% of waste is a lot for just straws! Good riddance, I say!

On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 7:47:54 AM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> On 7/10/2018 8:43 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2018-07-10 8:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >> I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised
> >> to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper.Â* Worked just fine.
> >>
> >
> > We had paper straws for many years before they started to make them out
> > of plastic.
>
> Exactly. Less plastic works for me.
>
> Nancy
>
>
I'm fine with a paper straw.

I've got three or four insulated plastic glasses I got at Dollar Tree
a few years ago. Each of them came with a plastic straw that has a
bulge near the bottom and that end goes into the glass. The lid screws
on and the straw will not come out due to the slight bulge. Works great
and I'm never searching for a straw.

A super long handled 'straw brush' does a great job of washing that tube,
too.

On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 08:22:04 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
>>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
>>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
>>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
>>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
>>> waters around the globe each year.
>>>
>>>
>> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
>> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.
>
>I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised
>to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper. Worked just fine.
>
>nancy

Growing up all straws were paper. Actually safetywise paper straws
are mush better, same as how some lollypops have paper sticks.

In article >, penmart01
@aol.com says...
>
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 08:22:04 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:
>
> >On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote:
> >> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
> >>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
> >>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
> >>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
> >>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
> >>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
> >>> waters around the globe each year.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
> >> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.
> >
> >I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised
> >to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper. Worked just fine.
> >
> >nancy
>
> Growing up all straws were paper. Actually safetywise paper straws
> are mush better, same as how some lollypops have paper sticks.

In the last three days I've hunted high and low for oldfashioned
wooden lolly sticks so the grands could make ice lollies. Younger shop
assistants looked blank, and one told me " Nobody makes their own ice
lollies these days; just buy some from the freezer section". I finally
tracked sticks down in Glasgow in a specialist kitchen shop. Whatever
happened to the simple things in life.

Last night we mashed strawberries with yoghurt, froze it on sticks in
pots and the grands have just eaten them. Tomorrow, banana lollies.

Janet UK

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:33:09 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, penmart01
says...
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 08:22:04 -0400, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote:
>> >> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >
>> >>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
>> >>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
>> >>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
>> >>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
>> >>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
>> >>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
>> >>> waters around the globe each year.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
>> >> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.
>> >
>> >I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised
>> >to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper. Worked just fine.
>> >
>> >nancy
>>
>> Growing up all straws were paper. Actually safetywise paper straws
>> are mush better, same as how some lollypops have paper sticks.
>
> In the last three days I've hunted high and low for oldfashioned
>wooden lolly sticks so the grands could make ice lollies. Younger shop
>assistants looked blank, and one told me " Nobody makes their own ice
>lollies these days; just buy some from the freezer section". I finally
>tracked sticks down in Glasgow in a specialist kitchen shop. Whatever
>happened to the simple things in life.
>
> Last night we mashed strawberries with yoghurt, froze it on sticks in
>pots and the grands have just eaten them. Tomorrow, banana lollies.
>
> Janet UK


https://www.amazon.co.uk/PLAIN-WOODE.../dp/B01AYGXNS0

Janet wrote:
>
> Last night we mashed strawberries with yoghurt, froze it on sticks in
> pots and the grands have just eaten them. Tomorrow, banana lollies.

I've got vanilla yogurt and peach slices to try tonight. Not
freezing though, just eating cold in a bowl.

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:33:09 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, penmart01
says...
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 08:22:04 -0400, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 7/9/2018 9:43 PM, wrote:
>> >> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >
>> >>> https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
>> >>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
>> >>> Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
>> >>> issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
>> >>> by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
>> >>> 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
>> >>> waters around the globe each year.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
>> >> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.
>> >
>> >I had lunch at some chain restaurant the other day and was surprised
>> >to find my straw was not plastic but heavy paper. Worked just fine.
>> >
>> >nancy
>>
>> Growing up all straws were paper. Actually safetywise paper straws
>> are mush better, same as how some lollypops have paper sticks.
>
> In the last three days I've hunted high and low for oldfashioned
>wooden lolly sticks so the grands could make ice lollies. Younger shop
>assistants looked blank, and one told me " Nobody makes their own ice
>lollies these days; just buy some from the freezer section". I finally
>tracked sticks down in Glasgow in a specialist kitchen shop. Whatever
>happened to the simple things in life.
>
> Last night we mashed strawberries with yoghurt, froze it on sticks in
>pots and the grands have just eaten them. Tomorrow, banana lollies.
>
> Janet UK

See thread on Amazon, wooden popsicle sticks are available (in colors)
in both the grocery and arts and crafts section.

On 7/11/2018 10:33 AM, Janet wrote:
> Whatever
> happened to the simple things in life.

They began making 'em in plastic. 8|

nb

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>
> In the last three days I've hunted high and low for oldfashioned
> wooden lolly sticks so the grands could make ice lollies. Younger shop
> assistants looked blank, and one told me " Nobody makes their own ice
> lollies these days; just buy some from the freezer section". I finally
> tracked sticks down in Glasgow in a specialist kitchen shop. Whatever
> happened to the simple things in life.
>
> Janet UK
>
>
I'm glad you found them as I was going to suggest going to a craft store
as they would have them.

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 9:43:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > They are doing this so Gary sees no more turtles suffering from them
> >
> > https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/62722...plastic-straws
> > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...709-story.html
> > Though plastic drinking straws have become one of the more high-profile
> > issues environmentally, they make up only about 4% of the plastic trash
> > by number of pieces, and far less by weight. Straws add up to about
> > 2,000 tons of the nearly 9 million tons of plastic waste that ends up in
> > waters around the globe each year.
> >
> >
> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.

I rarely drink anything besides water in a restaurant. If the
glass comes with a straw, the first thing I do is remove the
straw. It's just a waste for them to provide it to me.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:52:17 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 18:43:35 -0700 (PDT),
>wrote:
>
>> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
>> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.
>
>I have no problem drinking soda (usually water) out of disposable
>cup such as from fast food restaurants. But at sit down places I've
>had enough reusable glasses with lipstick on them that I prefer a
>straw.

Even with a straw why would you want a beverage from an unwashed
glass?

Sheldon wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:52:17 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 18:43:35 -0700 (PDT),
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I don't partake of anything Starbucks offers but I appreciate a straw with
> >> whatever fountain drink I get at whatever establishment.
> >
> >I have no problem drinking soda (usually water) out of disposable
> >cup such as from fast food restaurants. But at sit down places I've
> >had enough reusable glasses with lipstick on them that I prefer a
> >straw.
>
> Even with a straw why would you want a beverage from an unwashed
> glass?


Steve messes *all* his drinking vessels with his thickly - applied lipstick ("Cherries in the Snow" is his fave)...and ya know the old saying that starts, "You can put lipstick on a dwarf..."

;-D

--
Best
Greg

On 7/11/2018 11:19 AM, l not -l wrote:

> Today, I still do some hand written communication, thank yous, condolences,
> special occasions, etc; but, there are far fewer occasions than previously.
> IME, hand written notes recognizing accomplishments or other notable events
> are even more treasured/appreciated today than ever before.

We get Christmas cards with pre-printed names. They are appreciated,
but i feel like just part of a mailing list. The ones that have a
sentence or two mean much more to me as the person really cares.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/11/2018 11:19 AM, l not -l wrote:
>
>> Today, I still do some hand written communication, thank yous,
>> condolences,
>> special occasions, etc; but, there are far fewer occasions than
>> previously.
>> IME, hand written notes recognizing accomplishments or other notable
>> events
>> are even more treasured/appreciated today than ever before.
>
> We get Christmas cards with pre-printed names. They are appreciated, but
> i feel like just part of a mailing list. The ones that have a sentence or
> two mean much more to me as the person really cares.


I feel the same way about Christmas cards, and I really hate those printed
newsletters that some people send out. Geez, you would think these people
live with nothing but rainbows and sparkling streams.

Cheri

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:31:35 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/11/2018 11:19 AM, l not -l wrote:
>
>> Today, I still do some hand written communication, thank yous, condolences,
>> special occasions, etc; but, there are far fewer occasions than previously.
>> IME, hand written notes recognizing accomplishments or other notable events
>> are even more treasured/appreciated today than ever before.
>
>We get Christmas cards with pre-printed names. They are appreciated,
>but i feel like just part of a mailing list. The ones that have a
>sentence or two mean much more to me as the person really cares.

The day I start sending out Christmas cards to people, I'll also start
wearing ties and take a purple perm.

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:51:48 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>
> The day I start sending out Christmas cards to people, I'll also start
> wearing ties and take a purple perm.
>
>
I admit to sending out about a dozen or so Christmas cards and like Ed, I
add just a line or two.

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:51:48 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> The day I start sending out Christmas cards to people, I'll also start
>> wearing ties and take a purple perm.
>>
>>
> I admit to sending out about a dozen or so Christmas cards and like Ed, I
> add just a line or two.



We used to send out a lot, but now, like you, only about a dozen or so. DH's
aunt in Texas just passed away last month at 97, and every year without
fail, a Christmas card from her, shaky handwriting the past few years, but
always a handwritten note. Those mean something to me, and in cursive too.
;-)

Cheri

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>> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 8:51:48 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
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>>> The day I start sending out Christmas cards to people, I'll also start
>>> wearing ties and take a purple perm.
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>> I admit to sending out about a dozen or so Christmas cards and like Ed, I
>> add just a line or two.
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> We used to send out a lot, but now, like you, only about a dozen or so.
> DH's aunt in Texas just passed away last month at 97, and every year
> without fail, a Christmas card from her, shaky handwriting the past few
> years, but always a handwritten note. Those mean something to me, and in
> cursive too. ;-)

I didn't send any last year and I'd just as soon not get any. They seem
rather meaningless these days. I barely look at them. If there is a letter,
it's usually the generic kind and I know all of the stuff in it anyway.
Mostly I get caught up with things on social media.

Cards are so expensive nowadays and I rarely find one with the sentiment I
want. Once in a while I will make one. By hand. Not computer generated.

On 2018-07-12 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message

> We used to send out a lot, but now, like you, only about a dozen or so.
> DH's aunt in Texas just passed away last month at 97, and every year
> without fail, a Christmas card from her, shaky handwriting the past few
> years, but always a handwritten note. Those mean something to me, and in
> cursive too. ;-)

My wife spends a lot of time and a lot of money sending cards to people
we never see and never hear from. She even sends cards to her father's
friends overseas, and he died 25 years ago.