> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 6:49:43 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > (Sigh) I come from a long line of 'bed makers.' It's rare my bed is
>> > not made everyday.
>>
>> I can't stand an unmade bed. I come from a family of seven kids and my
>> mom
>> always insisted on made beds, maybe a carry over.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> Yes, I think it is a carry over. Oh, and my mother, her mother, my
> mother's sisters were all "Don't sit on that bed after it's been made.
> You want to sit down; there's a chair."

Sounds like good advice.

Cheri

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 5:33:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >
> > I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
> > change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making the
> bed is a waste of energy.

We use both bedrooms and the home office as changing rooms for people
using the hot tub. Not that this happens very often. When we know
someone is coming over, we make the bed. I suppose we could close the
bedroom door if it's not a hot tub situation.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 7:49:43 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:33:00 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
> >> > change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >
> >>
> >> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making the
> >> bed is a waste of energy.
> >>
> >>
> > (Sigh) I come from a long line of 'bed makers.' It's rare my bed is
> > not made everyday.
>
> I can't stand an unmade bed. I come from a family of seven kids and my mom
> always insisted on made beds, maybe a carry over.
>
> Cheri

I'm totally indifferent. I walk out the door to go to work every morning
and the bed is nowhere near the top of my consciousness. On weekends I
use the bed to fold laundry, which I do after I wash the sheets, put them
back on the bed and pull up the blankets.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:44:58 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 24 Jul 2018 04:58:46p, told us...
>
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 23:11:06 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue 24 Jul 2018 03:59:16p, Dave Smith told us...
>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-24 6:04 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you pleased with the iRoomba? Often wondered about one but
>>>>> I have all hardwood and ceramic in kitchen and bathroom. Do
>>>>> they work on that?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have no use for our Roomba. You have to pick everything up of
>>>> the floor, rearrange mats and furniture, wires, keep pets out,
>>>> put up barricades block stairs.... We have a central vacuum
>>>> and it takes less time to vacuum a room with that than it does
>>>> to prepare a room to use the Roomba that takes 45 minutes, and
>>>> then has to be cleaned out and recharged.
>>>>
>>>> Out old one died and I made the mistake of caving in to my
>>>> wife's pressure to get a new one... about $400. It barely
>>>> outlived its warranty before dying. Huge waste of money.
>>>>
>>>
>>>There's no crap to pick up off of our floors. Wires ae neatly
>>>secured. Our cats are not bothered nor do they interfere with the
>>>Roomba. We don't have stairs and we don't need barriers.
>>>Emptying the Roomba's collection bin takes about a minute. Your
>>>mistake was buying the cheap one. We have the model 980 and it's
>>>amazing!
>>>
>>>You couldn't give me a central vacuum. One of our previous homes
>>>had a central vacuum and after using it a few times, just ignored
>>>it and went with a Dyson. Between that and the Roomba we're all
>>>set.
>>
>> Yes I am a Dyson person, have the latest stick plus the animal for
>> special occasions.
>
>If I'm not mistaken, Dyson has discontinued making their "ball" style
>upright vacuums. That's disappointing. We debated between their
>stick vacuum and our iRoomba. In our situation I think the iRoomba
>was probably the better choice. The "hands off" ability was what sold
>us.
>
>We actually had two Dyson "ball" pet vacuums, an earlier model and
>the latest model. We finally decided we didn't really need two :-),
>so we gave the older one to a friend.
>
>How do you like the stick vacuum?

Love it, originally only had the ball vacuum, still do but as the
years pass I find by the time I do the whole condo my back is killing
me whereas that doesn't happen with the stick!

I like the stick because I run that daily to pick up stray cat fur and
the odd grain of litter that seems to travel. I passed the first
stick on to my eldest grandson because he is always fixing things for
me and now have one with the newer emptying system. Soon I think the
ball one will go the same way I am going to read up on the 980,
think it might be just the thing for me.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:00:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-07-24 9:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 7/24/2018 7:01 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>
>> We used to cross the Delaware River from Philly to New Jersey about 10
>> miles.* To my grandmother's it was a bus, train, trolley car.* Today our
>> parents would be locked up for letting us go.
>
>I was about 8 and my younger brother was 5 when my mother dropped us off
>at the western terminus of the street car route with directions and
>instructions to get to my grandparents house in East York, about 20
>miles and an hour and a half by street car and bus.

That was the point the study came up with - the helicoptered kids now
arrive in their teens unable to make crucial decisions because they
have never made any.

There is a woman who plays at our club who retired early from
Dalhousie University where she was a student counselor. She said all
her working life she had enjoyed her work up until the last few years
when the helicopter kids started arriving. She liked working with the
students, not their parents, so she retired early.

When my middle grandson complained about the school bus ride I
explained how I got to school in HK, from Aberdeen side of the The
Peak, all the way to Kowloon out by the airport he was most impressed
when he actually travelled to HK and figured my journey out He
sent me a card saying that yes, you win, worse than the school bus for
softies.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:

> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:29:04 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:52:13 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/21/2018 2:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:52:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, that is exactly true, I feel the same way with all the cameras when out
>>>>>>> in public. People born these days will never know the freedom we had as
>>>>>>> kids, I'm not saying it's a bad thing for them, but it's certainly not
>>>>>>> something I would choose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All these 'helicopter' parents should be made to read the latest study
>>>>>> out which points out, no surprises, these poor kids arrive in their
>>>>>> mid-teens totally unable to make a decision for themselves. From play
>>>>>> dates on, these kids never experience life in the raw, must be really
>>>>>> tough on them.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I find the idea of "play dates" is odd. Perhaps it makes sense if you
>>>>> live in a big city and don't have neighbors with kids of similar ages
>>>>> for yours to play with...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> It's a control factor, that way your child only interacts with other
>>>> children YOU consider suitable.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That?s not really the majority of cases. Play dates are generally only
>>> arranged for very young children, not yet school age or early school
>>> age?children who are too young to run around the neighborhood unsupervised.
>>
>> Good heavens!! Run around the neighbourhood unsupervised??? That
>> doesn't happen today! I happened to be in the area where we raised
>> our three, lovely summers day and I couldn't think what looked wrong
>> somehow. Then the penny dropped, back in our kids day there would
>> have been a pile of bikes on the front grass, there would have been
>> kids swimming and shrieking in the lake, probably a couple of dogs
>> running around with a group of kids. Not a sign of a kid, for all it
>> is still a prime area for parents, nice schools, safe roads, nice
>> houses etc.
>>
>
>There are kids and bikes all over my neighborhood. Regardless, play dates
>aren’t for the age 7+ crowd, they’re for preschoolers and kindergartners.
>I’m sure you can agree 3 year olds are too young to be outside
>unsupervised. I wasn’t talking about 10 year olds, for heaven’s sake.
>
>
I was talking about school aged kids, they don't even walk to school
anymore, too dangerous. When I asked my granddaughter why my
greatgranddaughter was not out playing, she would have been around 6
then, she said 'It's different now, there are men in vans who could
grab them blah blah blah' - I asked her to name me one incident in the
Halifax/Dartmouth area of anyone grabbing a kid, she couldn't of
course, it's urban rumour.

On 7/24/2018 7:39 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/24/2018 5:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2018-07-24 4:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 7/23/2018 2:57 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay, so your wife listens to books while driving. This has to do
>>>> with the bathroom "library" how? Maybe she listens to books in the
>>>> bathroom?
>>>>
>>>> I still can't figure out why the bathroom would be a good place to
>>>> read.
>>>
>>> It's not a good place to read. Reading is a good thing to do when you
>>> have to spend some time in the bathroom. I had commented that some
>>> magazines have articles short enough to read while in the bathroom.
>>
>> Uh, yeah, you mentioned short articles.* I still can't imagine
>> spending enough time in the bathroom to need a stock of magazines.* Or
>> even one magazine.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> Or even an article.
>
> Cheri

Reader's Digest is pretty good. There is even a hardback series of
books called Uncle John's Bathroom Reader that is a series of short
stories, humor, odd facts, etc. I had one as a gift and it took months
to read but was nice to have.

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...sl_jgp9oo603_e

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 03:03:55 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 24 Jul 2018 06:51:09p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>> On 7/24/2018 7:11 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There's no crap to pick up off of our floors. Wires ae neatly
>>> secured. Our cats are not bothered nor do they interfere with
>>> the Roomba. We don't have stairs and we don't need barriers.
>>> Emptying the Roomba's collection bin takes about a minute. Your
>>> mistake was buying the cheap one. We have the model 980 and it's
>>> amazing!
>>
>> Will it find its way from room to room? If it does the bedroom
>> will it go to the hall, etc?
>>
>
>Ys, it will. It has a camera and sensors and initially maps the
>entire premises. You can restrict it's movements if you wish. If it
>can't finish the entire at once (it's senses it's available battery
>power), it will return to its charging statioin. Whenit's fully
>recharged, it will return to where it left off.

Been looking around and ebay seems to be best buy - does it work with
an Android phone? It didn't specify and I won't buy apple stuff so
that may be me out.

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 7:28:04 AM UTC-5, wrote:
....
>
> Been looking around and ebay seems to be best buy - does it work with
> an Android phone? It didn't specify and I won't buy apple stuff so
> that may be me out.

Probably not. MY Android device does NOT WORK with my stupid Macbook Pro POS imitation PC! :-(

John Kuthe...

On 2018-07-25 1:28 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message

> Honestly, I have never had a bed with no headboard but I wouldn't think
> it would be a problem.
>

I have, and it was not a big problem.

On 7/24/2018 5:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom.Â* Making the
>> bed is a waste of energy.
>
> Â*I guess you never saw that video with a Navy SEAL Admiral explaining
> the importance of making your bed.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgzLzbd-zT4

I can appreciate his point, but I've never had such a bad day that a
made bed is the highlight of the day. There are enough "must do" items
that get done to keep me happy. When I was working, most days I'd leave
the bedroom in the dark and my wife would still be sleeping. Before
leaving the house I made sure she had what she needed for the day. More
important and satisfying when done than a tight sheet.

"Cheri" wrote in message news
> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:33:00 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
>> > change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>>
>> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making the
>> bed is a waste of energy.
>>
>>
> (Sigh) I come from a long line of 'bed makers.' It's rare my bed is
> not made everyday.

I can't stand an unmade bed. I come from a family of seven kids and my mom
always insisted on made beds, maybe a carry over.

Cheri

==

Works for me

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 7/24/2018 8:46 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> It's a good habit. The only day we don't make it up is when we strip
> the bed. I like to leave it bare down to the mattress to air out for
> the day. Then later we put on the fresh linens.
>

That's why we don't put a lot of effort into putting it together. After
sleeping under the covers all night I'd rather leave them pulled back a
bit rather than seal in anything

==

Yes, I with you on that! We have 2 single duvets (learned that in Germany
many years ago) and every morning I turn them over and turn them pulled
back. I do like to 'air' the bed.

"In the morning, if you make your bed immediately, all of the skin cells,
sweat, mites and their droppings €“ which can cause asthma and allergies €“
will be trapped underneath. However, if the bed is left unmade, the mites,
dead skin, the sweat, all of it, will be exposed to fresh air and light."

Google it. So, leaving it unmade is good so long as you pull it all back it
seems

> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> > wrote:
>
>> > wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:29:04 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:52:13 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/21/2018 2:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:52:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, that is exactly true, I feel the same way with all the cameras when out
>>>>>>>> in public. People born these days will never know the freedom we had as
>>>>>>>> kids, I'm not saying it's a bad thing for them, but it's certainly not
>>>>>>>> something I would choose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All these 'helicopter' parents should be made to read the latest study
>>>>>>> out which points out, no surprises, these poor kids arrive in their
>>>>>>> mid-teens totally unable to make a decision for themselves. From play
>>>>>>> dates on, these kids never experience life in the raw, must be really
>>>>>>> tough on them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find the idea of "play dates" is odd. Perhaps it makes sense if you
>>>>>> live in a big city and don't have neighbors with kids of similar ages
>>>>>> for yours to play with...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a control factor, that way your child only interacts with other
>>>>> children YOU consider suitable.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That?s not really the majority of cases. Play dates are generally only
>>>> arranged for very young children, not yet school age or early school
>>>> age?children who are too young to run around the neighborhood unsupervised.
>>>
>>> Good heavens!! Run around the neighbourhood unsupervised??? That
>>> doesn't happen today! I happened to be in the area where we raised
>>> our three, lovely summers day and I couldn't think what looked wrong
>>> somehow. Then the penny dropped, back in our kids day there would
>>> have been a pile of bikes on the front grass, there would have been
>>> kids swimming and shrieking in the lake, probably a couple of dogs
>>> running around with a group of kids. Not a sign of a kid, for all it
>>> is still a prime area for parents, nice schools, safe roads, nice
>>> houses etc.
>>>
>>
>> There are kids and bikes all over my neighborhood. Regardless, play dates
>> arenÂ’t for the age 7+ crowd, theyÂ’re for preschoolers and kindergartners.
>> IÂ’m sure you can agree 3 year olds are too young to be outside
>> unsupervised. I wasnÂ’t talking about 10 year olds, for heavenÂ’s sake.
>>
>>
> I was talking about school aged kids, they don't even walk to school
> anymore, too dangerous. When I asked my granddaughter why my
> greatgranddaughter was not out playing, she would have been around 6
> then, she said 'It's different now, there are men in vans who could
> grab them blah blah blah' - I asked her to name me one incident in the
> Halifax/Dartmouth area of anyone grabbing a kid, she couldn't of
> course, it's urban rumour.
>

There was an incident here last fall where a 5 year old was taken from her
bus stop, raped, and dumped back on the street corner afterward. Im not
sure theyve caught the perpetrator yet. I wouldnt consider myself a
helicopter parent, but incidents like this do make me think twice about the
potential situations I put my child in.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
> On 7/24/2018 8:46 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>
>> It's a good habit. The only day we don't make it up is when we strip
>> the bed. I like to leave it bare down to the mattress to air out for
>> the day. Then later we put on the fresh linens.
>>
>
> That's why we don't put a lot of effort into putting it together. After
> sleeping under the covers all night I'd rather leave them pulled back a
> bit rather than seal in anything
>
> ==
>
> Yes, I with you on that! We have 2 single duvets (learned that in Germany
> many years ago) and every morning I turn them over and turn them pulled
> back. I do like to 'air' the bed.
>
> "In the morning, if you make your bed immediately, all of the skin cells,
> sweat, mites and their droppings €“ which can cause asthma and allergies
> €“ will be trapped underneath. However, if the bed is left unmade, the
> mites, dead skin, the sweat, all of it, will be exposed to fresh air and
> light."
>
> Google it. So, leaving it unmade is good so long as you pull it all back
> it seems

Whatever works.

Cheri

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:35:47 -0700, Cheri wrote:

> We used to run fairly high bluffs on the river

Sometimes we would play in the quicksand in the gravel pit.
--
http://mduffy.x10host.com/index.htm

"Mike_Duffy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:35:47 -0700, Cheri wrote:
>
>> We used to run fairly high bluffs on the river
>
> Sometimes we would play in the quicksand in the gravel pit.
> --
> http://mduffy.x10host.com/index.htm


Dangerous play, but good memories. BTW, you have a really cute dog. :-)

Cheri

On 7/23/2018 4:07 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 2:51:05 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> In the US you can use two extra long single mattresses that total the
>> equivalent of a standard size US king size mattress. When you have a
>> king size mattress in the US, you invariably have two separate box
>> springs underneath. I imagine the fact that the box springs are
>> totally rigid would make them very difficult to maneuver around
>> corners within a home.
>>
>>
> My king size mattress takes two standard twin size box springs. I
> suppose if you had a California king it might take the extra long
> twin box springs but the twin box springs I've always had were easy
> to maneuver around corners.
>
Ditto. I do have a California king but the set came with the correct
size twin box springs. None of the pieces were difficult to maneuver
around corners.

I've had a king size bed all my adult life. For many years I had a
soft-side waterbed. Twin box springs on a metal frame with a semi-firm
water mattress on top. It was *very* comfortable. But if they spring a
leak... that's no fun. Draining the bed to move it is no fun,
either. So when I moved here I replaced it with a nice King pillowtop
mattress and the set came with two box springs. I was able to use the
existing metal frame. (That's when I added the headboard, purely for
asthetics but I think it's pretty. I posted a link to a pic somewhere
in this thread.)

Jill

On 7/23/2018 5:30 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 13:07:56 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 2:51:05 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>> In the US you can use two extra long single mattresses that total the
>>> equivalent of a standard size US king size mattress. When you have a
>>> king size mattress in the US, you invariably have two separate box
>>> springs underneath. I imagine the fact that the box springs are
>>> totally rigid would make them very difficult to maneuver around
>>> corners within a home.
>>>
>>>
>> My king size mattress takes two standard twin size box springs. I
>> suppose if you had a California king it might take the extra long
>> twin box springs but the twin box springs I've always had were easy
>> to maneuver around corners.
>
> It all depends upon the width of the hallway, the size of the bedroom
> doors and how sharp the turn is from the hall into the bedroom
>
I had a problem with a standard size sofa-bed when I moved to this
house. Try as they might, the movers couldn't get the darn thing around
the corner into the "den" (a bedroom my parents - and now I - use as a
TV room). It's a shame because that sofa was so comfortable! The
fabric was a nice, neutral (oatmeal) shade, too.

The thing I don't understand is my parents already had a standard
sofa-bed in that room. I have no idea how someone was able to get that
one in the room. Mine refused to be maneuvered around that corner in
the hallway. I wound up donating mine to Goodwill.

Jill

On 7/23/2018 4:00 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-5, S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> On 7/23/2018 5:19 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> We always had a king sized bed. Fairly recently, I noticed two singles
>>> that fitted together.
>>>
>> British king size is similar to US queen size - 2 inches shorter, same
>> width, US queen sheets fit well.
>>
>> US king size is MUCH bigger than British king size.
>>
>>
> That's interesting. I just did a search and the British 'king size'
> bed is actually an American queen size. Who'd thunk it?
>
> Just me here and I've had a king size bed for 47 years and looooove it.
> But I will admit when I first got a king bed it did look like wall to
> wall mattress.
>
I have to laugh at some of the people on HGTV's 'House Hunters'.
They're often looking at a *huge* bedroom and say, "I don't think our
King bed will fit in here".

Jill

On 7/24/2018 5:32 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>
>> I vanishingly rarely have guests.Â* Shoot, I only make my bed when I
>> change the sheets.Â* I just have better things to do.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom.Â* Making the
> bed is a waste of energy.

Totally! I pull up and smooth out the sheet and the blanket but the
bedspread stays folded at the end of the bed. Visitors don't have any
reason to go into my bedroom.

Jill

On 7/25/2018 11:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/23/2018 4:00 PM, wrote:

>> Just me here and I've had a king size bed for 47 years and looooove it.
>> But I will admit when I first got a king bed it did look like wall to
>> wall mattress.
>>
> I have to laugh at some of the people on HGTV's 'House Hunters'. They're
> often looking at a *huge* bedroom and say, "I don't think our King bed
> will fit in here".
>
> Jill

House Hunters gets a bit silly at times. Some people have expectations
that don't even live in fantasy land.

I want 4 bedrooms, beach front, and my budget is $150,000.
This house had everything I want but the kitchen does not have white
cabinets.

wonder how many of those things are the buyers or if it the producers
telling them what to say.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 14:23:18 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:

> wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:41:45 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:29:04 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:52:13 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/21/2018 2:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:52:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, that is exactly true, I feel the same way with all the cameras when out
>>>>>>>>> in public. People born these days will never know the freedom we had as
>>>>>>>>> kids, I'm not saying it's a bad thing for them, but it's certainly not
>>>>>>>>> something I would choose.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All these 'helicopter' parents should be made to read the latest study
>>>>>>>> out which points out, no surprises, these poor kids arrive in their
>>>>>>>> mid-teens totally unable to make a decision for themselves. From play
>>>>>>>> dates on, these kids never experience life in the raw, must be really
>>>>>>>> tough on them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find the idea of "play dates" is odd. Perhaps it makes sense if you
>>>>>>> live in a big city and don't have neighbors with kids of similar ages
>>>>>>> for yours to play with...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a control factor, that way your child only interacts with other
>>>>>> children YOU consider suitable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That?s not really the majority of cases. Play dates are generally only
>>>>> arranged for very young children, not yet school age or early school
>>>>> age?children who are too young to run around the neighborhood unsupervised.
>>>>
>>>> Good heavens!! Run around the neighbourhood unsupervised??? That
>>>> doesn't happen today! I happened to be in the area where we raised
>>>> our three, lovely summers day and I couldn't think what looked wrong
>>>> somehow. Then the penny dropped, back in our kids day there would
>>>> have been a pile of bikes on the front grass, there would have been
>>>> kids swimming and shrieking in the lake, probably a couple of dogs
>>>> running around with a group of kids. Not a sign of a kid, for all it
>>>> is still a prime area for parents, nice schools, safe roads, nice
>>>> houses etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There are kids and bikes all over my neighborhood. Regardless, play dates
>>> aren?t for the age 7+ crowd, they?re for preschoolers and kindergartners.
>>> I?m sure you can agree 3 year olds are too young to be outside
>>> unsupervised. I wasn?t talking about 10 year olds, for heaven?s sake.
>>>
>>>
>> I was talking about school aged kids, they don't even walk to school
>> anymore, too dangerous. When I asked my granddaughter why my
>> greatgranddaughter was not out playing, she would have been around 6
>> then, she said 'It's different now, there are men in vans who could
>> grab them blah blah blah' - I asked her to name me one incident in the
>> Halifax/Dartmouth area of anyone grabbing a kid, she couldn't of
>> course, it's urban rumour.
>>
>
>There was an incident here last fall where a 5 year old was taken from her
>bus stop, raped, and dumped back on the street corner afterward. I’m not
>sure they’ve caught the perpetrator yet. I wouldn’t consider myself a
>helicopter parent, but incidents like this do make me think twice about the
>potential situations I put my child in.

All of life is a chance, many things you can do, or can happen to you,
the only way to learn good decision making is to start early on with
smaller ones. If I lived in a high crime area, that might be
different but my kids were raised to have common sense and they made
it through as very whole human beings.

The worst example in our area was two sisters waiting at the bus stop
and a car was out of control and crashed through them, killing them.
It did surprise me somewhat that their mother promptly said she was a
christian so must forgive the young man, I would have cheerfully taken
him apart.

On 7/24/2018 9:32 PM, Nellie wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:32:19 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> ...
>> I learned in my years of living in Memphis, even a slight earthquake,
>> whatever is on the wall at the head of the bed might fall off the wall
>> and hurt you when you're sleeping. So, hang nothing on the wall above
>> the bed. Ditto for tornadoes. Less stuff to be flying around.
>>
>> The same thing holds true for hurricanes down here. Don't hang things
>> on the wall above your bed. That is not the way to decorate in certain
>> climates.
> ...
>
> OMG yes!! I ALWAYS plan my bedroom decorating with natural disaster recovery in mind!
>
> ;-)
>
> Never know when a meteor might go all meteorITE on ya and decide to pay you a 3AM visit!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
> Talk to people in the San Francisci Bay Area. You'll find not many will hang anything heavy over their beds. It's been drilled into us.
>
> Nellie
>
You tell him, Nellie! I lived on the New Madrid fault for decades. The
New Madrid is the second only to the San Andreas. It's not nearly as
active but I researched information about earthquake preparedness after
the one in 1976 nearly knocked me off my feet and a bedside lamp fell to
the floor and broke.

It makes good sense, don't hang heavy stuff on the wall above your bed
if you live on a fault line. Also, things like tall bookcases should be
anchored to the wall so they don't topple over.

John Kuthe seems to think it's paranoia. It's called being prepared.
He doesn't "decorate" his rental rooms anyway. And I'm pretty sure he's
never been through even a mild earthquake.

Jill

On 7/24/2018 7:11 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote regarding the Roomba:
>
> There's no crap to pick up off of our floors.

I'd have to pick up all the cat toys.

> Our cats are not bothered nor do they interfere with the
> Roomba.

I think my cat would freak out and hide under the bed... until the
Roomba came under there after her! LOL

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 7/24/2018 5:32 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
>>> change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making the
>> bed is a waste of energy.
>
> Totally! I pull up and smooth out the sheet and the blanket but the
> bedspread stays folded at the end of the bed. Visitors don't have any
> reason to go into my bedroom.
>
> Jill


But...it's made in the pic you posted, so does that mean you think it looks
better made? I'm really just kidding because it's a definite choice whether
to make or not. A couple of my friends who are widowed and live alone don't
make theirs anymore, but I think I still would, or maybe not.

Cheri

On 7/24/2018 8:49 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 24 Jul 2018 05:14:59p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 7/24/2018 7:28 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/23/2018 6:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 5:28:23 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Headboards are overrated.Â* My bed doesn't have one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NONSENSE!Â* Headboards are necesesary for sitting up in bed
>>>>>> with pillows... you must use a hospital bed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.Â* A simple frame made of angle iron.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sit up in bed with pillows all the time, never have any
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> I didn't have a headboard for *years*.Â* Unless there isn't a
>>>> wall behind your bed there shouldn't be any problem propping up
>>>> pillows if you want to sit up in bed.
>>>>
>>>> I have a headboard but only because it's pretty.
>>>>
>>>> https://s22.postimg.cc/73zrc5ebl/master_bedroom.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> It is..very pretty.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Thank you. I think so. Still, I never had a problem with
>> propping up pillows if I wanted to sit up in bed when I didn't
>> have a headboard.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> I've always had some type of headboard or full bed. The only time I
> propped myself up was when I lived alone and had a console TV in the
> bedroom. I'd also often have my meals on a tray in bed. Talk abot
> lazy. :-)
>
I'm not sure living alone has anything to do with that. I've lived
alone for years yet I never eat in bed off a tray, not even when I am
not feeling well. I don't watch TV in the bedroom, either.

I'm thinking more along the lines of reading in bed. With or without a
headboard, it's more comfortable with a propped up pillow or two.

I have vivid memories as a teenager, propping pillows up (yes, against a
headboard) to read. In the daytime, I was *on* the "made" bed reading.
I'd pull the pillows out from under the bedspread and prop them up but
still not disturb the bedspread. Night time, I was under the covers but
still propped up. When it came time to go to sleep I put the book on
the nightstand, pulled down the pillow(s) and turned out the light.

Jill

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 5:21:21 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I'm totally indifferent. I walk out the door to go to work every morning
> and the bed is nowhere near the top of my consciousness. On weekends I
> use the bed to fold laundry, which I do after I wash the sheets, put them
> back on the bed and pull up the blankets.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
Besides sleeping, the bed does provide a large area for folding. I do
use the bed to fold sheets to put away as well as the quilt and comforter
in the Spring when they come off the bed.

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 10:27:39 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> I've had a king size bed all my adult life. For many years I had a
> soft-side waterbed. Twin box springs on a metal frame with a semi-firm
> water mattress on top. It was *very* comfortable. But if they spring a
> leak... that's no fun. Draining the bed to move it is no fun,
> either. So when I moved here I replaced it with a nice King pillowtop
> mattress and the set came with two box springs. I was able to use the
> existing metal frame. (That's when I added the headboard, purely for
> asthetics but I think it's pretty. I posted a link to a pic somewhere
> in this thread.)
>
> Jill
>
>
I've had a king size bed my entire adult life as well and just 3 years
ago switched to a soft-sided water bed. Yes, very comfortable! Before
that I had a Select Comfort bed which was comfortable as well. My gripe
with that bed was the two bladders for individual adjustment. Besides
causing me to roll to the center of the bed, one of the bladders decided
it did not want to maintain inflation.

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 12:31:19 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> I have vivid memories as a teenager, propping pillows up (yes, against a
> headboard) to read. In the daytime, I was *on* the "made" bed reading.
> I'd pull the pillows out from under the bedspread and prop them up but
> still not disturb the bedspread. Night time, I was under the covers but
> still propped up. When it came time to go to sleep I put the book on
> the nightstand, pulled down the pillow(s) and turned out the light.
>
> Jill
>
>
I read in bed at night but have gotten soooooo lazy that I bought a
remote switch to turn out the light so I don't have to stretch to turn
it off. Yes, I'm a lazy turd.

https://www.amazon.com/Westek-RFK160...nr8o2s45v_ttl?

I also have one that's a bit different type switch than this one that
is for a small fan on top of the chest of drawers.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:04:57 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/25/2018 11:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/23/2018 4:00 PM, wrote:
>
>>> Just me here and I've had a king size bed for 47 years and looooove it.
>>> But I will admit when I first got a king bed it did look like wall to
>>> wall mattress.
>>>
>> I have to laugh at some of the people on HGTV's 'House Hunters'. They're
>> often looking at a *huge* bedroom and say, "I don't think our King bed
>> will fit in here".
>>
>> Jill
>
>House Hunters gets a bit silly at times. Some people have expectations
>that don't even live in fantasy land.
>
>I want 4 bedrooms, beach front, and my budget is $150,000.
>This house had everything I want but the kitchen does not have white
>cabinets.
>
> wonder how many of those things are the buyers or if it the producers
>telling them what to say.

I saw a couple of those shows where one spouse would say something
like 'I hate that wallpaper' or the paint in this room is hideous.
That was the end of me watching shows like that because they made me
want to hit someone.
Janet US

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 1:40:36 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> I saw a couple of those shows where one spouse would say something
> like 'I hate that wallpaper' or the paint in this room is hideous.
> That was the end of me watching shows like that because they made me
> want to hit someone.
> Janet US
>
>
I know. They focus on stupid stuff that can be changed with a can of
paint or just taking the wall paper down. The ones I love is they
gripe because they don't have granite countertops and/or stainless
steel appliances and they can't even open a can of soup without cutting
themselves.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 08:24:08 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Mike_Duffy" > wrote in message
. ..
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:35:47 -0700, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> We used to run fairly high bluffs on the river
>>
>> Sometimes we would play in the quicksand in the gravel pit.
>> --
>> http://mduffy.x10host.com/index.htm
>
>
>Dangerous play, but good memories. BTW, you have a really cute dog. :-)

Yes, she reminds me of Queen Elizabeth.

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 11:04:55 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 7/24/2018 5:32 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I vanishingly rarely have guests.Â* Shoot, I only make my bed when I
> >> change the sheets.Â* I just have better things to do.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >
> > Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom.Â* Making the
> > bed is a waste of energy.
>
> Totally! I pull up and smooth out the sheet and the blanket but the
> bedspread stays folded at the end of the bed. Visitors don't have any
> reason to go into my bedroom.
>
> Jill

My bed remains UNmade all the time. Never know when I may want to lay down to take a siesta and play with my genitals, my fave parts! :-)

Have we had enough of bedroom activities now?

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 1:40:36 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> I saw a couple of those shows where one spouse would say something
>> like 'I hate that wallpaper' or the paint in this room is hideous.
>> That was the end of me watching shows like that because they made me
>> want to hit someone.
>> Janet US
>>
>>
>I know. They focus on stupid stuff that can be changed with a can of
>paint or just taking the wall paper down. The ones I love is they
>gripe because they don't have granite countertops and/or stainless
>steel appliances and they can't even open a can of soup without cutting
>themselves.

I can top that. How about an entire foyer of beautiful marble tiles
and the woman says 'that's last year's color'
Janet US

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 5:37:04 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 1:40:36 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>
> >> I saw a couple of those shows where one spouse would say something
> >> like 'I hate that wallpaper' or the paint in this room is hideous.
> >> That was the end of me watching shows like that because they made me
> >> want to hit someone.
> >> Janet US
> >>
> >>
> >I know. They focus on stupid stuff that can be changed with a can of
> >paint or just taking the wall paper down. The ones I love is they
> >gripe because they don't have granite countertops and/or stainless
> >steel appliances and they can't even open a can of soup without cutting
> >themselves.
>
> I can top that. How about an entire foyer of beautiful marble tiles
> and the woman says 'that's last year's color'
> Janet US

Or how about the portrait painter commissioned to paint a large group and after complete the person commissioned the painting asks "Can you touch it up so they all look a little more to the left?" ;-)

John Kuthe...

On 7/25/2018 12:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/25/2018 11:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/23/2018 4:00 PM, wrote:
>
>>> Just me here and I've had a king size bed for 47 years and looooove it.
>>> But I will admit when I first got a king bed it did look like wall to
>>> wall mattress.
>>>
>> I have to laugh at some of the people on HGTV's 'House Hunters'.
>> They're often looking at a *huge* bedroom and say, "I don't think our
>> King bed will fit in here".
>>
>> Jill
>
> House Hunters gets a bit silly at times.Â* Some people have expectations
> that don't even live in fantasy land.
>
> I want 4 bedrooms, beach front, and my budget is $150,000.

You mean not everyone can afford that? Don't ask me why everyone wants
to live on the beach.

> This house had everything I want but the kitchen does not have white
> cabinets.
>
Here's an answer: paint.

> Â*wonder how many of those things are the buyers or if it the producers
> telling them what to say.

I have to wonder if they truly only have three properties to choose
from. Are they contractually obligated to buy something? I think I've
only seen one or two shows over the years where they actually said no
thanks, they want to keep looking.

Jill

On 7/25/2018 6:36 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> I can top that. How about an entire foyer of beautiful marble tiles
> and the woman says 'that's last year's color'
> Janet US
>

Yeah, I think the Vatican changes marble every year to keep colors up to
date. Where do these people come from?

On 7/25/2018 1:06 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 7/24/2018 5:32 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
>>>> change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making
>>> the bed is a waste of energy.
>>
>> Totally!* I pull up and smooth out the sheet and the blanket but the
>> bedspread stays folded at the end of the bed.* Visitors don't have any
>> reason to go into my bedroom.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> But...it's made in the pic you posted, so does that mean you think it
> looks better made? I'm really just kidding because it's a definite
> choice whether to make or not. A couple of my friends who are widowed
> and live alone don't make theirs anymore, but I think I still would, or
> maybe not.
>
> Cheri
>
I took that picture when I first bought the new bedding. I wanted to
capture how it looked. I generally keep the bedspread folded down at
the bottom of the bed. If I made the bed every day I'd just have to
pull it down every night... why bother?

Jill

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 11:04:55 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 7/24/2018 5:32 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
>>>> change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making the
>>> bed is a waste of energy.
>> Totally! I pull up and smooth out the sheet and the blanket but the
>> bedspread stays folded at the end of the bed. Visitors don't have any
>> reason to go into my bedroom.
>>
>> Jill
> My bed remains UNmade all the time. Never know when I may want to lay down to take a siesta and play with my genitals, my fave parts! :-)
>
> Have we had enough of bedroom activities now?
>
> John Kuthe...

Put that in your Craigslist ad.