On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:33:00 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >
> > I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
> > change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making the
> bed is a waste of energy.
>
>
(Sigh) I come from a long line of 'bed makers.' It's rare my bed is
not made everyday.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 16:44:01 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 7/24/2018 4:03 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 24 Jul 2018 12:03:52p, jmcquown told us...
>>
>>> On 7/23/2018 12:01 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 03:11:49 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 5:28:23 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 11:59:53 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> >,
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 6:36:44 PM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>> >,
>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 1:59:17 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't look like a place to relax and study
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yes! Every tenants room locks and quiet time upon
>>>>>>>>>>> request!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not enough
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Students need their own desk, chair and bookcase in their
>>>>>>>>>> room so they
>>>>>>>>>> can study in peace.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Check, check, check! FURNISHED!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the letting rooms in your pictures, the only furniture
>>>>>>>> visible is a
>>>>>>>> cheap bed with no headboard. No bedside table, no desk, no
>>>>>>>> chair, no bookcase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Janet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Headboards are overrated. My bed doesn't have one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NONSENSE! Headboards are necesesary for sitting up in bed with
>>>>>> pillows... you must use a hospital bed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. A simple frame made of angle iron.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sit up in bed with pillows all the time, never have any
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> Then you must prop your pillows against the wall and your bed
>>>> frame is rigged so it won't move or your pillows will slide onto
>>>> the floor.
>>>
>>> Why would her bedframe move?! I doubt it's on casters. I know
>>> mine isn't.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>
>> My brass bed does have casters but it was an adaptation to facilitate
>> moving the bed. They are locking casters, so the bed doesn't move
>> unles you want it to.
>>
>How often do you move your bed? I can't think of the last time I did.
>
>Jill

Every couple of weeks to vacuum under it - don't want major dust
bunnies. Mine has a caster base so I can push it out the way with one
hand.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 21:00:38 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:


>>>
>> How often do you move your bed? I can't think of the last time I
>> did.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
>Not very often, but the full brass bed including mattress and box
>springs is quite heavy. We used to moved it once or twice a year to
>get the vacuum fully underneth. Now that we have an iRoomba robot
>vacuum we never move it. It can vacuum under most of our furniture.
>
>We still use our Dyson pet vacuum for heavy duty vacuuming, but with
>four cats and the litter they track around as well as cat hair, the
>Roomba is run about every other day. It takes two hours to fully
>charge it. It runs automatically and and returns to its charging
>station by itself. It has saved us a lot of work.

Are you pleased with the iRoomba? Often wondered about one but I have
all hardwood and ceramic in kitchen and bathroom. Do they work on
that?

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:54:50 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:41:39 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >Uh, yeah, you mentioned short articles. I still can't imagine spending
> >enough time in the bathroom to need a stock of magazines. Or even one
> >magazine.
>
> Jill, we don't need to know how fast you poop.
>
>
No, we don't!!!

On 7/24/2018 6:06 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:54:50 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:41:39 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Uh, yeah, you mentioned short articles. I still can't imagine spending
>>> enough time in the bathroom to need a stock of magazines. Or even one
>>> magazine.
>>
>> Jill, we don't need to know how fast you poop.
>>
>>
> No, we don't!!!
>
We also don't need to know about how slow the people in the bathroom
are. Magazines, really?

Jill

On 7/24/2018 5:48 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 2:00:50 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> I didn't have a headboard for *years*. Unless there isn't a wall behind
>> your bed there shouldn't be any problem propping up pillows if you want
>> to sit up in bed.
>>
>> I have a headboard but only because it's pretty.
>>
>> https://s22.postimg.cc/73zrc5ebl/master_bedroom.jpg
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> That is a very pretty headboard and comforter, too. I like a headboard
> as I feel like it 'finishes' the room. Also, a headboard keeps the paint
> behind the bed from looking perhaps faded or greasy from pillows or a
> persons head always resting against it.
>
Uh... thanks. I never had a greasy wall or greasy from pillows even
before I had a headboard.

Jill

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:38:54 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 24 Jul 2018 03:04:15p, told us...

Who told us?

On 2018-07-24 6:00 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:29:04 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx

>>
>> Thats not really the majority of cases. Play dates are generally only
>> arranged for very young children, not yet school age or early school
>> age€”children who are too young to run around the neighborhood unsupervised.
>
> Good heavens!! Run around the neighbourhood unsupervised??? That
> doesn't happen today! I happened to be in the area where we raised
> our three, lovely summers day and I couldn't think what looked wrong
> somehow. Then the penny dropped, back in our kids day there would
> have been a pile of bikes on the front grass, there would have been
> kids swimming and shrieking in the lake, probably a couple of dogs
> running around with a group of kids. Not a sign of a kid, for all it
> is still a prime area for parents, nice schools, safe roads, nice
> houses etc.

Too many helicopter parents these days. I grew up in Lorne Park, now
part of Mississauga and the Toronto urban sprawl, but back then it was a
small town with farms, forests, creeks, rivers and Lake Ontario. He had
bicycles and a a long leash. We would take off in the morning with the
expectation to be home for lunch or to pack one and be back for supper.
Our bicycle hikes took us to New Toronto, Cooksville, Streetsville and
Oakville, so roughly a 5 mile diameter of unsupervised travel. During
the end of August we spent most days at the CNE. One of the parents
working in Toronto would drop us off in the morning and pick us up on
the way home.


My neighbours used to drive their kids to the end of the driveway(about
a 150 yards) to get the school bus and then wait for them there at the
end of the day. My nephew's wife won't let her kids go to the park
across the street on their own.

On 2018-07-24 6:04 PM, wrote:

>
> Are you pleased with the iRoomba? Often wondered about one but I have
> all hardwood and ceramic in kitchen and bathroom. Do they work on
> that?
>


I have no use for our Roomba. You have to pick everything up of the
floor, rearrange mats and furniture, wires, keep pets out, put up
barricades block stairs.... We have a central vacuum and it takes
less time to vacuum a room with that than it does to prepare a room to
use the Roomba that takes 45 minutes, and then has to be cleaned out and
recharged.

Out old one died and I made the mistake of caving in to my wife's
pressure to get a new one... about $400. It barely outlived its warranty
before dying. Huge waste of money.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:38:54 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 24 Jul 2018 03:04:15p, told us...
>
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 21:00:38 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>> How often do you move your bed? I can't think of the last time
>>>> I did.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>
>>>Not very often, but the full brass bed including mattress and box
>>>springs is quite heavy. We used to moved it once or twice a year
>>>to get the vacuum fully underneth. Now that we have an iRoomba
>>>robot vacuum we never move it. It can vacuum under most of our
>>>furniture.
>>>
>>>We still use our Dyson pet vacuum for heavy duty vacuuming, but
>>>with four cats and the litter they track around as well as cat
>>>hair, the Roomba is run about every other day. It takes two hours
>>>to fully charge it. It runs automatically and and returns to its
>>>charging station by itself. It has saved us a lot of work.
>>
>> Are you pleased with the iRoomba? Often wondered about one but I
>> have all hardwood and ceramic in kitchen and bathroom. Do they
>> work on that?
>>
>
>Yes, we love it! We have no wall-to-wall carpeting, only cyprus
>flooring in most rooms, and tumbled marble in the foyer, kitchen, and
>bathrooms. Oriental rugs in the living room, dining room, and a very
>long hallway. The Roomba works equally well on all surfaces. We
>have the model 980. We chose it for severeal reason. Some other
>models have brush type rollers. The 980 had ribbed rubber rollers
>that neer accumulate hair or other debris. The other reason is that
>it can be controlled by a smartphone and has numerous programmable
>options. It can be programmed by the day and/or time of day. The
>amazing part is that it can ick up the most minute particles that
>evade ordinary vacuums. Take at look at the specs:
>
>https://www.irobot.com/For-the-Home/...ng/Roomba.aspx

What do your cats make of it? I can see my girl fighting it

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/23/2018 6:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 5:28:23 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Headboards are overrated. My bed doesn't have one.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>
>>> NONSENSE! Headboards are necesesary for sitting up in bed with
>>> pillows... you must use a hospital bed?
>>
>> Nope. A simple frame made of angle iron.
>>
>> I sit up in bed with pillows all the time, never have any problems.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> I didn't have a headboard for *years*. Unless there isn't a wall behind
> your bed there shouldn't be any problem propping up pillows if you want to
> sit up in bed.
>
> I have a headboard but only because it's pretty.
>
> https://s22.postimg.cc/73zrc5ebl/master_bedroom.jpg
>
> Jill


It is..very pretty.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/24/2018 5:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-07-24 4:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 7/23/2018 2:57 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, so your wife listens to books while driving. This has to do with
>>> the bathroom "library" how? Maybe she listens to books in the bathroom?
>>>
>>> I still can't figure out why the bathroom would be a good place to read.
>>
>> It's not a good place to read. Reading is a good thing to do when you
>> have to spend some time in the bathroom. I had commented that some
>> magazines have articles short enough to read while in the bathroom.
>
> Uh, yeah, you mentioned short articles. I still can't imagine spending
> enough time in the bathroom to need a stock of magazines. Or even one
> magazine.
>
> Jill


Or even an article.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/24/2018 5:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-07-24 4:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 7/23/2018 2:57 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, so your wife listens to books while driving. This has to do with
>>> the bathroom "library" how? Maybe she listens to books in the bathroom?
>>>
>>> I still can't figure out why the bathroom would be a good place to read.
>>
>> It's not a good place to read. Reading is a good thing to do when you
>> have to spend some time in the bathroom. I had commented that some
>> magazines have articles short enough to read while in the bathroom.
>
> Uh, yeah, you mentioned short articles. I still can't imagine spending
> enough time in the bathroom to need a stock of magazines. Or even one
> magazine.
>
> Jill


I can't imagine reading in the bathroom, but it takes all kinds. LOL

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/24/2018 6:06 PM, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:54:50 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:41:39 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uh, yeah, you mentioned short articles. I still can't imagine spending
>>>> enough time in the bathroom to need a stock of magazines. Or even one
>>>> magazine.
>>>
>>> Jill, we don't need to know how fast you poop.
>>>
>>>
>> No, we don't!!!
>>
> We also don't need to know about how slow the people in the bathroom are.
> Magazines, really?
>
> Jill


Or maybe just that old trick that kids use when there are chores to be done,
hiding out. :0

Cheri

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>
>> I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
>> change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making the bed
> is a waste of energy.


I don't mind using my energy to make the bed. Around here, the last one up
makes it...except on rare occasions I am always the first one up. LOL

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:33:00 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed when I
>> > change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>>
>> Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom. Making the
>> bed is a waste of energy.
>>
>>
> (Sigh) I come from a long line of 'bed makers.' It's rare my bed is
> not made everyday.

I can't stand an unmade bed. I come from a family of seven kids and my mom
always insisted on made beds, maybe a carry over.

Cheri

Janet wrote:

> In article >, cshenk1
> @cox.net says...
> >
> > Janet wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 6:36:44 PM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > >,
> > > > > says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 1:59:17 PM UTC-5,
> > > > > > wrote: ...
> > > > > > > Doesn't look like a place to relax and study
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh yes! Every tenants room locks and quiet time upon
> > > > > > request!
> > > > >
> > > > > Not enough
> > > > >
> > > > > Students need their own desk, chair and bookcase in their
> > > > > room so they can study in peace.
> > > > >
> > > > > Janet UK
> > > >
> > > > Check, check, check! FURNISHED!!
> > >
> > > In the letting rooms in your pictures, the only furniture
> > > visible is a cheap bed with no headboard. No bedside table, no
> > > desk, no chair, no bookcase.
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> > >
> > > Janet
> >
> > Janet, there are some things the renters are expected to supply.
>
> Have you ever been a student in rented accommodation, or a landlord?
>
> Janet UK

Both.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 23:11:06 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 24 Jul 2018 03:59:16p, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> On 2018-07-24 6:04 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Are you pleased with the iRoomba? Often wondered about one but I
>>> have all hardwood and ceramic in kitchen and bathroom. Do they
>>> work on that?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have no use for our Roomba. You have to pick everything up of
>> the floor, rearrange mats and furniture, wires, keep pets out, put
>> up barricades block stairs.... We have a central vacuum and it
>> takes less time to vacuum a room with that than it does to prepare
>> a room to use the Roomba that takes 45 minutes, and then has to be
>> cleaned out and recharged.
>>
>> Out old one died and I made the mistake of caving in to my wife's
>> pressure to get a new one... about $400. It barely outlived its
>> warranty before dying. Huge waste of money.
>>
>
>There's no crap to pick up off of our floors. Wires ae neatly
>secured. Our cats are not bothered nor do they interfere with the
>Roomba. We don't have stairs and we don't need barriers. Emptying
>the Roomba's collection bin takes about a minute. Your mistake was
>buying the cheap one. We have the model 980 and it's amazing!
>
>You couldn't give me a central vacuum. One of our previous homes had
>a central vacuum and after using it a few times, just ignored it and
>went with a Dyson. Between that and the Roomba we're all set.

Yes I am a Dyson person, have the latest stick plus the animal for
special occasions.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 23:12:17 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 24 Jul 2018 04:00:53p, l not -l told us...
>
>>
>> On 24-Jul-2018, wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:33:00 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On 7/24/2018 6:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > I vanishingly rarely have guests. Shoot, I only make my bed
>>> > > when I change the sheets. I just have better things to do.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cindy Hamilton
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > Even if we have guests, they are not going in the bedroom.
>>> > Making the bed is a waste of energy.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> (Sigh) I come from a long line of 'bed makers.' It's rare my
>>> bed is not made everyday.
>> +1
>> I make mine almost every morning and it takes a minute or less.
>> I'm not a perfectionist, but it looks pretty good when done. The
>> "hospital corners" do make it easier.
>>
>
>OUr bed is usually made up as soon as e get up unless it's a day to
>change the linens.

I admit that no matter what, I don't leave home without the bed made,
old habits die hard.

On 7/24/2018 7:28 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/23/2018 6:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 5:28:23 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Headboards are overrated.* My bed doesn't have one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NONSENSE!* Headboards are necesesary for sitting up in bed with
>>>> pillows... you must use a hospital bed?
>>>
>>> Nope.* A simple frame made of angle iron.
>>>
>>> I sit up in bed with pillows all the time, never have any problems.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> I didn't have a headboard for *years*.* Unless there isn't a wall
>> behind your bed there shouldn't be any problem propping up pillows if
>> you want to sit up in bed.
>>
>> I have a headboard but only because it's pretty.
>>
>> https://s22.postimg.cc/73zrc5ebl/master_bedroom.jpg
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> It is..very pretty.
>
> Cheri

Thank you. I think so. Still, I never had a problem with propping
up pillows if I wanted to sit up in bed when I didn't have a headboard.

Jill

On 7/23/2018 3:13 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> You know, your use of ALL CAPS makes me think you're a
>> sock puppet for Donald Trump.
>
> Nah....John's just a nutcase. A friendly one but still a weirdo.
>
>
Friendly? You think it's "friendly" for him to to drag his sexual
exploits and past partners from years past [Bryan] in great detail into
discussions here? Good lord.

What about his candy business? He says it's too hot to make candy. I
wonder why he doesn't just install an air conditioner since he's
allegedly done all these house upgrades. Instead he has a web site
which says CLOSED every day of the week.

Jill

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:32:19 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
....
> I learned in my years of living in Memphis, even a slight earthquake,
> whatever is on the wall at the head of the bed might fall off the wall
> and hurt you when you're sleeping. So, hang nothing on the wall above
> the bed. Ditto for tornadoes. Less stuff to be flying around.
>
> The same thing holds true for hurricanes down here. Don't hang things
> on the wall above your bed. That is not the way to decorate in certain
> climates.
....

OMG yes!! I ALWAYS plan my bedroom decorating with natural disaster recovery in mind!

;-)

Never know when a meteor might go all meteorITE on ya and decide to pay you a 3AM visit!

John Kuthe...

On 7/24/2018 5:34 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:52:13 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/21/2018 2:56 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:52:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that is exactly true, I feel the same way with all the cameras when out
>>>> in public. People born these days will never know the freedom we had as
>>>> kids, I'm not saying it's a bad thing for them, but it's certainly not
>>>> something I would choose.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> All these 'helicopter' parents should be made to read the latest study
>>> out which points out, no surprises, these poor kids arrive in their
>>> mid-teens totally unable to make a decision for themselves. From play
>>> dates on, these kids never experience life in the raw, must be really
>>> tough on them.
>>>
>> I find the idea of "play dates" is odd. Perhaps it makes sense if you
>> live in a big city and don't have neighbors with kids of similar ages
>> for yours to play with...
>>
>> Jill
>
> don't forget, you can arrange play dates for your dog. We have doggy
> day care here. Includes massage.
>

Oh goody! It would be horrible if your dog didn't get a massage while
at day care.

Jill

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 4:32:19 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
....
> I learned in my years of living in Memphis, even a slight earthquake,
> whatever is on the wall at the head of the bed might fall off the wall
> and hurt you when you're sleeping. So, hang nothing on the wall above
> the bed. Ditto for tornadoes. Less stuff to be flying around.
>
> The same thing holds true for hurricanes down here. Don't hang things
> on the wall above your bed. That is not the way to decorate in certain
> climates.
....

OMG yes!! I ALWAYS plan my bedroom decorating with natural disaster recovery in mind!

;-)

Never know when a meteor might go all meteorITE on ya and decide to pay you a 3AM visit!

John Kuthe...

Talk to people in the San Francisci Bay Area. You'll find not many will hang anything heavy over their beds. It's been drilled into us.

Nellie

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:52:13 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 7/21/2018 2:56 PM, wrote:
> >> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:52:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Yes, that is exactly true, I feel the same way with all the cameras when out
> >>> in public. People born these days will never know the freedom we had as
> >>> kids, I'm not saying it's a bad thing for them, but it's certainly not
> >>> something I would choose.
> >>>
> >>> Cheri
> >>
> >> All these 'helicopter' parents should be made to read the latest study
> >> out which points out, no surprises, these poor kids arrive in their
> >> mid-teens totally unable to make a decision for themselves. From play
> >> dates on, these kids never experience life in the raw, must be really
> >> tough on them.
> >>
> >I find the idea of "play dates" is odd. Perhaps it makes sense if you
> >live in a big city and don't have neighbors with kids of similar ages
> >for yours to play with...
> >
> >Jill
>
> don't forget, you can arrange play dates for your dog. We have doggy
> day care here. Includes massage.

My son's vet practice holds puppy parties, where puppies can socialise
with other puppies.

Janet UK

On 7/24/2018 7:01 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>>
>> Too many helicopter parents these days. I grew up in Lorne Park,
>> now part of Mississauga and the Toronto urban sprawl, but back
>> then it was a small town with farms, forests, creeks, rivers and
>> Lake Ontario. He had bicycles and a a long leash. We would take
>> off in the morning with the expectation to be home for lunch or to
>> pack one and be back for supper. Our bicycle hikes took us to New
>> Toronto, Cooksville, Streetsville and Oakville, so roughly a 5
>> mile diameter of unsupervised travel. During the end of August we
>> spent most days at the CNE. One of the parents working in Toronto
>> would drop us off in the morning and pick us up on the way home.
>>
>>
>> My neighbours used to drive their kids to the end of the
>> driveway(about a 150 yards) to get the school bus and then wait
>> for them there at the end of the day. My nephew's wife won't let
>> her kids go to the park across the street on their own.
>>
>
> Times have changed. I had complete freedom as a child growing up as
> long as my parents had an idea of where I was planning to be. Long
> bike rides and "exploring" were great fun.
>

We used to cross the Delaware River from Philly to New Jersey about 10
miles. To my grandmother's it was a bus, train, trolley car. Today our
parents would be locked up for letting us go.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:38:54 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tue 24 Jul 2018 03:04:15p, told us...
> >
> >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 21:00:38 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>> How often do you move your bed? I can't think of the last time
> >>>> I did.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jill
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Not very often, but the full brass bed including mattress and box
> >>>springs is quite heavy. We used to moved it once or twice a year
> >>>to get the vacuum fully underneth. Now that we have an iRoomba
> >>>robot vacuum we never move it. It can vacuum under most of our
> >>>furniture.
> >>>
> >>>We still use our Dyson pet vacuum for heavy duty vacuuming, but
> >>>with four cats and the litter they track around as well as cat
> >>>hair, the Roomba is run about every other day. It takes two hours
> >>>to fully charge it. It runs automatically and and returns to its
> >>>charging station by itself. It has saved us a lot of work.
> >>
> >> Are you pleased with the iRoomba? Often wondered about one but I
> >> have all hardwood and ceramic in kitchen and bathroom. Do they
> >> work on that?
> >>
> >
> >Yes, we love it! We have no wall-to-wall carpeting, only cyprus
> >flooring in most rooms, and tumbled marble in the foyer, kitchen, and
> >bathrooms. Oriental rugs in the living room, dining room, and a very
> >long hallway. The Roomba works equally well on all surfaces. We
> >have the model 980. We chose it for severeal reason. Some other
> >models have brush type rollers. The 980 had ribbed rubber rollers
> >that neer accumulate hair or other debris. The other reason is that
> >it can be controlled by a smartphone and has numerous programmable
> >options. It can be programmed by the day and/or time of day. The
> >amazing part is that it can ick up the most minute particles that
> >evade ordinary vacuums. Take at look at the specs:
> >
> >https://www.irobot.com/For-the-Home/...ng/Roomba.aspx
>
> What do your cats make of it? I can see my girl fighting it

cats love to ride roombas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Z79ycisDU

Janet UK

On 2018-07-24 9:44 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,

>> don't forget, you can arrange play dates for your dog. We have doggy
>> day care here. Includes massage.
>
> My son's vet practice holds puppy parties, where puppies can socialise
> with other puppies.

I take my dogs to a leash free dog park every day. We usually go around
4 pm and see mostly the same people and dogs. There are about a half
dozen regulars, but sometimes as many as 20 dogs running around playing
together.

On 7/24/2018 7:11 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> There's no crap to pick up off of our floors. Wires ae neatly
> secured. Our cats are not bothered nor do they interfere with the
> Roomba. We don't have stairs and we don't need barriers. Emptying
> the Roomba's collection bin takes about a minute. Your mistake was
> buying the cheap one. We have the model 980 and it's amazing!

Will it find its way from room to room? If it does the bedroom will it
go to the hall, etc?

On 7/24/2018 8:46 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> It's a good habit. The only day we don't make it up is when we strip
> the bed. I like to leave it bare down to the mattress to air out for
> the day. Then later we put on the fresh linens.
>

That's why we don't put a lot of effort into putting it together. After
sleeping under the covers all night I'd rather leave them pulled back a
bit rather than seal in anything.

On 2018-07-24 9:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/24/2018 7:01 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> We used to cross the Delaware River from Philly to New Jersey about 10
> miles.Â* To my grandmother's it was a bus, train, trolley car.Â* Today our
> parents would be locked up for letting us go.

I was about 8 and my younger brother was 5 when my mother dropped us off
at the western terminus of the street car route with directions and
instructions to get to my grandparents house in East York, about 20
miles and an hour and a half by street car and bus.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:39:04 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 24 Jul 2018 06:26:38p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 7/24/2018 5:34 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:52:13 -0400, jmcquown
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/21/2018 2:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:52:57 -0700, "Cheri"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that is exactly true, I feel the same way with all the
>>>>>> cameras when out in public. People born these days will never
>>>>>> know the freedom we had as kids, I'm not saying it's a bad
>>>>>> thing for them, but it's certainly not something I would
>>>>>> choose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> All these 'helicopter' parents should be made to read the
>>>>> latest study out which points out, no surprises, these poor
>>>>> kids arrive in their mid-teens totally unable to make a
>>>>> decision for themselves. From play dates on, these kids never
>>>>> experience life in the raw, must be really tough on them.
>>>>>
>>>> I find the idea of "play dates" is odd. Perhaps it makes sense
>>>> if you live in a big city and don't have neighbors with kids of
>>>> similar ages for yours to play with...
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> don't forget, you can arrange play dates for your dog. We have
>>> doggy day care here. Includes massage.
>>>
>>
>> Oh goody! It would be horrible if your dog didn't get a massage
>> while at day care.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
>We have friends who have two golden retrivers. Before the couple
>retired they took their dogs to doggy daycare every day. They still
>take them for grooming every two weeks, which also includes massages.
>
>I'm not sure what value this has, but I've never seen such laid back
>dogs in my life.

C'mon Wayne, think it through. They get groomed every two weeks and
get a massage. I bet those dogs have calendars they mark off with
Sharpie pens. )
Janet US

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 02:44:50 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:52:13 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 7/21/2018 2:56 PM, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> All these 'helicopter' parents should be made to read the latest study
>> >> out which points out, no surprises, these poor kids arrive in their
>> >> mid-teens totally unable to make a decision for themselves. From play
>> >> dates on, these kids never experience life in the raw, must be really
>> >> tough on them.
>> >>
>> >I find the idea of "play dates" is odd. Perhaps it makes sense if you
>> >live in a big city and don't have neighbors with kids of similar ages
>> >for yours to play with...
>> >
>> >Jill
>>
>> don't forget, you can arrange play dates for your dog. We have doggy
>> day care here. Includes massage.
>
> My son's vet practice holds puppy parties, where puppies can socialise
>with other puppies.

Lol, snowflake dogs!

On 2018-07-24 9:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/24/2018 8:46 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>
>> It's a good habit.Â* The only day we don't make it up is when we strip
>> the bed.Â* I like to leave it bare down to the mattress to air out for
>> the day.Â* Then later we put on the fresh linens.
>>
>
> That's why we don't put a lot of effort into putting it together.Â* After
> sleeping under the covers all night I'd rather leave them pulled back a
> bit rather than seal in anything.

I am usually up long before my wife, so bed making becomes her
responsibility. That works out well for me because he tosses and turns
and disturbs the bedding more than I do. If she is away for the night
the sheet and duvet are already pretty much in place and I just have to
pull up the one corner to straighten it out.

> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:29:04 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> > wrote:
>
>> > wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:52:13 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/21/2018 2:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:52:57 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that is exactly true, I feel the same way with all the cameras when out
>>>>>> in public. People born these days will never know the freedom we had as
>>>>>> kids, I'm not saying it's a bad thing for them, but it's certainly not
>>>>>> something I would choose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> All these 'helicopter' parents should be made to read the latest study
>>>>> out which points out, no surprises, these poor kids arrive in their
>>>>> mid-teens totally unable to make a decision for themselves. From play
>>>>> dates on, these kids never experience life in the raw, must be really
>>>>> tough on them.
>>>>>
>>>> I find the idea of "play dates" is odd. Perhaps it makes sense if you
>>>> live in a big city and don't have neighbors with kids of similar ages
>>>> for yours to play with...
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> It's a control factor, that way your child only interacts with other
>>> children YOU consider suitable.
>>>
>>
>> ThatÂ’s not really the majority of cases. Play dates are generally only
>> arranged for very young children, not yet school age or early school
>> age—children who are too young to run around the neighborhood unsupervised.
>
> Good heavens!! Run around the neighbourhood unsupervised??? That
> doesn't happen today! I happened to be in the area where we raised
> our three, lovely summers day and I couldn't think what looked wrong
> somehow. Then the penny dropped, back in our kids day there would
> have been a pile of bikes on the front grass, there would have been
> kids swimming and shrieking in the lake, probably a couple of dogs
> running around with a group of kids. Not a sign of a kid, for all it
> is still a prime area for parents, nice schools, safe roads, nice
> houses etc.
>

There are kids and bikes all over my neighborhood. Regardless, play dates
arent for the age 7+ crowd, theyre for preschoolers and kindergartners.
Im sure you can agree 3 year olds are too young to be outside
unsupervised. I wasnt talking about 10 year olds, for heavens sake.

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 6:49:43 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > (Sigh) I come from a long line of 'bed makers.' It's rare my bed is
> > not made everyday.
>
> I can't stand an unmade bed. I come from a family of seven kids and my mom
> always insisted on made beds, maybe a carry over.
>
> Cheri
>
>
Yes, I think it is a carry over. Oh, and my mother, her mother, my
mother's sisters were all "Don't sit on that bed after it's been made.
You want to sit down; there's a chair."

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 8:39:06 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> We have friends who have two golden retrivers. Before the couple
> retired they took their dogs to doggy daycare every day. They still
> take them for grooming every two weeks, which also includes massages.
>
> I'm not sure what value this has, but I've never seen such laid back
> dogs in my life.
>
>
Golden retrievers are laid back dogs anyway. We had one years ago and
he was so lovable, easy going, and friendly. But I'd probably be very
laid back if I got a massage every two weeks, too.

On 7/24/2018 11:03 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>>
>> Will it find its way from room to room? If it does the bedroom
>> will it go to the hall, etc?
>>
>
> Ys, it will. It has a camera and sensors and initially maps the
> entire premises. You can restrict it's movements if you wish. If it
> can't finish the entire at once (it's senses it's available battery
> power), it will return to its charging statioin. Whenit's fully
> recharged, it will return to where it left off.
>

Cool. Everything will be on one floor so it may be handy.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/24/2018 7:28 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/23/2018 6:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 5:28:23 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Headboards are overrated. My bed doesn't have one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NONSENSE! Headboards are necesesary for sitting up in bed with
>>>>> pillows... you must use a hospital bed?
>>>>
>>>> Nope. A simple frame made of angle iron.
>>>>
>>>> I sit up in bed with pillows all the time, never have any problems.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> I didn't have a headboard for *years*. Unless there isn't a wall behind
>>> your bed there shouldn't be any problem propping up pillows if you want
>>> to sit up in bed.
>>>
>>> I have a headboard but only because it's pretty.
>>>
>>> https://s22.postimg.cc/73zrc5ebl/master_bedroom.jpg
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> It is..very pretty.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Thank you. I think so. Still, I never had a problem with propping up
> pillows if I wanted to sit up in bed when I didn't have a headboard.
>
> Jill


Honestly, I have never had a bed with no headboard but I wouldn't think it
would be a problem.

Cheri

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/24/2018 7:01 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Too many helicopter parents these days. I grew up in Lorne Park,
>>> now part of Mississauga and the Toronto urban sprawl, but back
>>> then it was a small town with farms, forests, creeks, rivers and
>>> Lake Ontario. He had bicycles and a a long leash. We would take
>>> off in the morning with the expectation to be home for lunch or to
>>> pack one and be back for supper. Our bicycle hikes took us to New
>>> Toronto, Cooksville, Streetsville and Oakville, so roughly a 5
>>> mile diameter of unsupervised travel. During the end of August we
>>> spent most days at the CNE. One of the parents working in Toronto
>>> would drop us off in the morning and pick us up on the way home.
>>>
>>>
>>> My neighbours used to drive their kids to the end of the
>>> driveway(about a 150 yards) to get the school bus and then wait
>>> for them there at the end of the day. My nephew's wife won't let
>>> her kids go to the park across the street on their own.
>>>
>>
>> Times have changed. I had complete freedom as a child growing up as
>> long as my parents had an idea of where I was planning to be. Long
>> bike rides and "exploring" were great fun.
>>
>
> We used to cross the Delaware River from Philly to New Jersey about 10
> miles. To my grandmother's it was a bus, train, trolley car. Today our
> parents would be locked up for letting us go.


We used to run fairly high bluffs on the river when my brother and I were 9
and 11, now we laugh about it and say we wonder what our parents could have
been thinking, but it was great, just had to be home by dinner time.

Cheri