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I'd never have guessed at least one or two of them.
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On 7/17/2018 6:35 PM, wrote:
> I'd never have guessed at least one or two of them. > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...ignout#image=1 > This is nonsense: "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends." I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" tip, back at us. Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because she thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. Turns out, it was! ![]() nb |
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"notbob" > wrote in message
... > On 7/17/2018 6:35 PM, wrote: >> I'd never have guessed at least one or two of them. >> >> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...ignout#image=1 >> > > This is nonsense: > > "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends." > > I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" tip, > back at us. Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because she > thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. > > Turns out, it was! ![]() > > nb Once where I worked the kitchen was having a really bad day, equipment failures etc., orders slow. Someone left a dime for a tip. LOL Cheri |
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On 2018-07-18 11:21 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 7/17/2018 6:35 PM, wrote: >> I'd never have guessed at least one or two of them. >> >> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...ignout#image=1 >> >> > > This is nonsense: > > "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends." > > I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" > tip, back at us.Â* Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because she > Â*thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. > > Turns out, it was!Â* ![]() ;-) My mother was having lunch with a friend and they were talking with a couple at the next table. They had lots of time to talk because the service was so slow, even though they were the only two tables. When the meals arrived some of the food was cold. When the other table left the guy left a really small tip. The waitress ran out after them and screamed and cursed at them. My mother, rather than being intimidated by that behaviour, left an equally small tip. |
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On 7/18/2018 11:26 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> >> I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" >> tip, back at us.* Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because >> she thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. >> >> Turns out, it was!* ![]() >> >> nb > > > Once where I worked the kitchen was having a really bad day, equipment > failures etc., orders slow. > Someone left a dime for a tip. LOL > > Cheri I never stiffed a waitperson for problems of the kitchen. Only twice did I not tip well. Once where the waitress was the problem, just lain incompetent. Another time the bill was added up wrong. I left a note to do the math correctly and they you will find a tip. I'm not sure if it was bad math or an intentional scam to add a few bucks. |
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On 7/18/2018 11:21 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 7/17/2018 6:35 PM, wrote: >> I'd never have guessed at least one or two of them. >> >> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...ignout#image=1 >> >> > > This is nonsense: > > "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends." > > I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" > tip, back at us.Â* Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because she > Â*thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. > > Turns out, it was!Â* ![]() > > nb What the heck is a starter tip? Jill |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
... > On 7/18/2018 11:26 AM, Cheri wrote: > >>> >>> I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" >>> tip, back at us. Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because she >>> thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. >>> >>> Turns out, it was! ![]() >>> >>> nb >> >> >> Once where I worked the kitchen was having a really bad day, equipment >> failures etc., orders slow. >> Someone left a dime for a tip. LOL >> >> Cheri > > I never stiffed a waitperson for problems of the kitchen. > > Only twice did I not tip well. Once where the waitress was the problem, > just lain incompetent. Another time the bill was added up wrong. I left > a note to do the math correctly and they you will find a tip. I'm not > sure if it was bad math or an intentional scam to add a few bucks. It was a hellish day, I remember it well, we all had a good laugh over it later. ![]() Cheri |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
... > On 7/18/2018 11:21 AM, notbob wrote: >> On 7/17/2018 6:35 PM, wrote: >>> I'd never have guessed at least one or two of them. >>> >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...ignout#image=1 >>> >> >> This is nonsense: >> >> "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends." >> >> I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" >> tip, back at us. Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because she >>  thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. >> >> Turns out, it was! ![]() >> >> nb > > What the heck is a starter tip? > > Jill People tipping for their own meals when using separate checks? At least that's how I take it. Cheri |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
... > On 7/18/2018 11:26 AM, Cheri wrote: > >>> >>> I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" >>> tip, back at us. Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because she >>> thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. >>> >>> Turns out, it was! ![]() >>> >>> nb >> >> >> Once where I worked the kitchen was having a really bad day, equipment >> failures etc., orders slow. >> Someone left a dime for a tip. LOL >> >> Cheri > > I never stiffed a waitperson for problems of the kitchen. > > Only twice did I not tip well. Once where the waitress was the problem, > just lain incompetent. Another time the bill was added up wrong. I left > a note to do the math correctly and they you will find a tip. I'm not > sure if it was bad math or an intentional scam to add a few bucks. A much better site for complaints about customers. ![]() https://www.stainedapron.com/ |
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On 2018-07-18 10:19 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 7/18/2018 11:21 AM, notbob wrote: >>> On 7/17/2018 6:35 PM, wrote: >>>> I'd never have guessed at least one or two of them. >>>> >>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...ignout#image=1 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> This is nonsense: >>> >>> "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends." >>> >>> I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" >>> tip, back at us. Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because >>> she  thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. >>> >>> Turns out, it was! ![]() >>> >>> nb >> >> What the heck is a starter tip? >> >> Jill > > > People tipping for their own meals when using separate checks? At least > that's how I take it. > > Cheri I used to go to singles evenings at a bar where we used a starter tip. The problem was that some single women would nurse a glass of water all evening and therefore cut into the waitresses' income. So I instituted a $2 per person charge and we then gave the waitress $40-$60 up front and had fantastic service thereafter. |
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On 7/18/2018 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> What the heck is a starter tip? A tip one of our cow orkers gave the server to get her to chill the Hell out. He tipped her all the change he had in his pocket in order to calm her down. We hadn't even ordered, yet! She threw the coins back at him, we left before ordering, and we told the head server why we were leaving and never coming back (he did nothing). It was a real "Kitchen Nightmare" moment. We ate out almost every Friday, so knew how to treat wait-staff. This female server was jes nuts! ![]() nb |
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"notbob" > wrote in message
... > On 7/18/2018 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote: > >> What the heck is a starter tip? > > A tip one of our cow orkers gave the server to get her to chill the Hell > out. He tipped her all the change he had in his pocket in order to calm > her down. We hadn't even ordered, yet! > > She threw the coins back at him, we left before ordering, and we told the > head server why we were leaving and never coming back (he did nothing). > It was a real "Kitchen Nightmare" moment. > > We ate out almost every Friday, so knew how to treat wait-staff. This > female server was jes nuts! ![]() > > nb Wow, I was really wrong on what I thought it was. Cheri |
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Cheri wrote:
> > Once where I worked the kitchen was having a really bad day, equipment > failures etc., orders slow. > Someone left a dime for a tip. LOL How sad was that? |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> > My mother was having lunch with a friend and they were talking with a > couple at the next table. They had lots of time to talk because the > service was so slow, even though they were the only two tables. When > the meals arrived some of the food was cold. When the other table left > the guy left a really small tip. The waitress ran out after them and > screamed and cursed at them. My mother, rather than being intimidated > by that behaviour, left an equally small tip. I know that waiters/waitresses count on tips. I've always given a good tip even if the service could have been a bit better..If the kitchen is slow or the food isn't all that, don't penalize the waitress. On my daughter's 16th birthday, she wanted an Outback steak dinner so I took her there. Oh nevermind.....might have told this story before but regardless, I don't feel like writing about it again. Quick summary, waitress wrongly assumed I was an old guy dating a young teenage girl. She treated my daughter nice and was very cold to me. I did pull the waitress aside at the end and straighten her out. It ruined my night but daughter never picked up on it. I've never gone back since. |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote: >> >> Once where I worked the kitchen was having a really bad day, equipment >> failures etc., orders slow. >> Someone left a dime for a tip. LOL > > How sad was that? It was actually funny, we got a good laugh out of it...the customer was gone by the time the table was cleared and the dime found. Smart man. ![]() Cheri |
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On 7/18/2018 12:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Why > did she need to chill the hell out? This goes back to the original issue in the article, which was, "Splitting the check at the end" and the statement, "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends". This one didn't! She freaked out before we had even ordered. My cow orker (3) was jes trying to calm her down and she freaked out, even more. Ruined our entire lunch, which we were never able to enjoy. 8| nb |
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On 7/18/2018 12:19 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 7/18/2018 11:21 AM, notbob wrote: >>> On 7/17/2018 6:35 PM, wrote: >>>> I'd never have guessed at least one or two of them. >>>> >>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...ignout#image=1 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> This is nonsense: >>> >>> "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends." >>> >>> I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" >>> tip, back at us. Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because >>> she  thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. >>> >>> Turns out, it was! ![]() >>> >>> nb >> >> What the heck is a starter tip? >> >> Jill > > > People tipping for their own meals when using separate checks? At least > that's how I take it. > > Cheri I still don't understand. Separate tips with separate checks, sure. "Starter tip" sounds like they gave her money before she actually served them. It's confusing. When I worked as a server I had no problem with separate checks. In fact, I preferred them for larger parties. I did have some problems when they couldn't figure out who owed what, but that was their problem, not mine. ![]() Jill |
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On 7/18/2018 2:34 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote: > >> What the heck is a starter tip? > > A tip one of our cow orkers gave the server to get her to chill the Hell > out.Â* He tipped her all the change he had in his pocket in order to calm > her down.Â* We hadn't even ordered, yet! > Okay... well that's unusual. I'd have asked to move to a different section or asked to speak with the manager. > She threw the coins back at him, we left before ordering, and we told > the head server why we were leaving and never coming back (he did > nothing).Â*Â* It was a real "Kitchen Nightmare" moment. > > We ate out almost every Friday, so knew how to treat wait-staff.Â* This > female server was jes nuts!Â* ![]() > > nb I worked with a server at O'Charley's who was a nut job. She tried to bum cigarettes from people at one of her tables and sat down and told them all about her sad sack life. She informed them she was taking Xanax. Okay, that's just wrong. She would likely have thrown change back at them but she didn't have the opporunity. She was immediately fired. Jill |
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On 7/18/2018 3:47 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 12:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > >> Â*Why > did she need to chill the hell out? > This goes back to the original issue in the article, which was, > "Splitting the check at the end" and the statement, "Any server is more > than happy to split a bill among a few friends". > > This one didn't!Â* She freaked out before we had even ordered.Â* My cow > orker (3) was jes trying to calm her down and she freaked out, even > more.Â* Ruined our entire lunch, which we were never able to enjoy.Â* 8| > > nb > > That's just one person. As a server I never had a problem with separate checks. In fact, if you have more than 6 people at a table it's preferred. The server will try to split the bill if asked but it's the customers who don't think it's fair if they only had a salad and a glass of water and wind up paying for all that other stuff everyone else ate. Separate checks are much easier. Jill |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-10, notbob wrote:
> > This is nonsense: > > "Any server is more than happy to split a bill among a few friends." > > I've had a server throw the loose change she was given as a "starter" > tip, back at us. Jes up and "threw" the change at the table because she > thought that "starter" tip was all she was gonna get. > > Turns out, it was! ![]() > > nb "Starter tip?" I like it! |
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On 2018-07-18 4:21 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 3:47 PM, notbob wrote: > That's just one person.Â* As a server I never had a problem with separate > checks.Â* In fact, if you have more than 6 people at a table it's preferred. > > The server will try to split the bill if asked but it's the customers > who don't think it's fair if they only had a salad and a glass of water > and wind up paying for all that other stuff everyone else ate.Â* Separate > checks are much easier. > If I ran the world separate checks would be the default. My wife will not return to a place that used to be a regular haunt for us because they would not give separate bills. She and some of her fellow teachers went out for lunch there, each one taking on of their students. The idea was that each would pay for their meal and their student guest. That was pre debit card days and would have been a real PITA to sort out with cash. AFAIAC, dealing with payment is part of the service that the server is supposed to provide and for which they expect a tip. |
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On 2018-07-18 2:54 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message > ... >> Cheri wrote: >>> >>> Once where I worked the kitchen was having a really bad day, equipment >>> failures etc., orders slow. >>> Someone left a dime for a tip. LOL >> >> How sad was that? > > > It was actually funny, we got a good laugh out of it...the customer was > gone by the time the table was cleared and the dime found. Smart man. ![]() > I think that the smallest tip I ever left was for a waiter who had been rude and snotty throughout the meal. The worst part was when I paid the bill with a $100 American Express Travelers quench. The bill came to about $65. This was at least 30 years ago, and at the time the exchange rate was about 30%. He brought back more than $60 change. I noticed the error immediately and tried to point it out, but he got snotty and told me that he had checked his figures carefully. I told him a second time, and he was even snottier, telling me that he had told me that he had checked his figures carefully. I tried to tell him a third time and he just cut me right off. Fine. Forget about it. The jerk who had checked his figures carefully had obviously assumed that the American Express TC was American funds and had given me exchange, but they were Canadian funds. He had given me almost $30 too much change. I tried three times too tell him that he had made a big mistake in my favour. I imagine that he had to eat his error, and he got a very much reduced tip because he had been so damned rude about everything. |
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 2:34 PM, notbob wrote: >> On 7/18/2018 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote: >> >>> What the heck is a starter tip? >> >> A tip one of our cow orkers gave the server to get her to chill the >> Hell out. He tipped her all the change he had in his pocket in order >> to calm her down. We hadn't even ordered, yet! >> > Okay... well that's unusual. I'd have asked to move to a different > section or asked to speak with the manager. > >> She threw the coins back at him, we left before ordering, and we told >> the head server why we were leaving and never coming back (he did >> nothing). It was a real "Kitchen Nightmare" moment. >> >> We ate out almost every Friday, so knew how to treat wait-staff. >> This female server was jes nuts! ![]() >> >> nb > > I worked with a server at O'Charley's who was a nut job. She tried to > bum cigarettes from people at one of her tables and sat down and told > them all about her sad sack life. She informed them she was taking > Xanax. Okay, that's just wrong. She would likely have thrown change > back at them but she didn't have the opporunity. She was immediately > fired. > > Jill How many jobs have you had? I'm 50 and I've had only five including McDonald's when I was a teen. |
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On 2018-07-18 7:52 PM, Alex wrote:
>> I worked with a server at O'Charley's who was a nut job.Â* She tried to >> bum cigarettes from people at one of her tables and sat down and told >> them all about her sad sack life.Â* She informed them she was taking >> Xanax.Â* Okay, that's just wrong.Â* She would likely have thrown change >> back at them but she didn't have the opporunity.Â* She was immediately >> fired. >> >> Jill > > How many jobs have you had?Â* I'm 50 and I've had only five including > McDonald's when I was a teen. My brother and his co-worker are having trouble with a co-worker. He works part time in the tasting room of a local winery. They tried to talk to her politely about her constantly butting in while they are dealing with customers but she freaked out. Apparently she is the girlfriend of a friend of the boyfriend of the owner's daughter. She knows everything and has worked at everything. She has had at least a dozen jobs since she graduated. He pointed out how different that is from the experience of the good co-worker and himself. They had both worked at part time jobs until graduation and then into their career jobs until retirement. They now work at the winery just to keep busy. |
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On 7/18/2018 7:52 PM, Alex wrote:
> How many jobs have you had?Â* I'm 50 and I've had only five including > McDonald's when I was a teen. I had three as a teen, four as an adult. 7 years, 11 years, 9 years, 27 years. Left the first three because the business was sold/moved. |
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On 7/19/2018 10:33 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 19 Jul 2018 07:04:40a, Dave Smith told us... > >> On 2018-07-18 7:52 PM, Alex wrote: >> >>>> I worked with a server at O'Charley's who was a nut job.ÂÂ* She >>>> tried to bum cigarettes from people at one of her tables and sat >>>> down and told them all about her sad sack life.ÂÂ* She informed >>>> them she was taking Xanax.ÂÂ* Okay, that's just wrong.ÂÂ* She >>>> would likely have thrown change back at them but she didn't have >>>> the opporunity.ÂÂ* She was immediately fired. >>>> >>>> Jill >>> >>> How many jobs have you had?ÂÂ* I'm 50 and I've had only five >>> including McDonald's when I was a teen. >> >> My brother and his co-worker are having trouble with a co-worker. >> He works part time in the tasting room of a local winery. They >> tried to talk to her politely about her constantly butting in >> while they are dealing with customers but she freaked out. >> Apparently she is the girlfriend of a friend of the boyfriend of >> the owner's daughter. She knows everything and has worked at >> everything. She has had at least a dozen jobs since she graduated. >> >> He pointed out how different that is from the experience of the >> good co-worker and himself. They had both worked at part time >> jobs until graduation and then into their career jobs until >> retirement. They now work at the winery just to keep busy. >> > > Too complicated! She probably just needs a good slap in the face! > I didn't realize you faggots are so violent. |
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On 2018-07-19 10:51 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 7:52 PM, Alex wrote: > >> How many jobs have you had?Â* I'm 50 and I've had only five including >> McDonald's when I was a teen. > > I had three as a teen, four as an adult.Â* 7 years, 11 years, 9 years, 27 > years.Â* Left the first three because the business was sold/moved. I am closer to a dozen. Most of them were part time and summer jobs in my youth. While at university I had a number of positions with the university. In my last year I was the animal technician for the Psych department, spent the summer as research assistant for my thesis adviser and during the school year I was TA for two of his courses. After graduating I had two term positions on contract. Then I got a contract position with the provincial government that led to a full time position. I had several promotions over the years and stayed with them 28 years before I got an early retirement. |
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On 2018-07-19 10:33 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> My brother and his co-worker are having trouble with a co-worker. >> He works part time in the tasting room of a local winery. They >> tried to talk to her politely about her constantly butting in >> while they are dealing with customers but she freaked out. >> Apparently she is the girlfriend of a friend of the boyfriend of >> the owner's daughter. She knows everything and has worked at >> everything. She has had at least a dozen jobs since she graduated. >> >> He pointed out how different that is from the experience of the >> good co-worker and himself. They had both worked at part time >> jobs until graduation and then into their career jobs until >> retirement. They now work at the winery just to keep busy. >> > > Too complicated! She probably just needs a good slap in the face! > I don't think you can do that any more. All they did was to say that they had to talk to her and told her that she has to stop interferring and interrupting them all the time. That was as far as they got when she freaked out and said that they were lazy and didn't do anything all day but stand around and complain about the owners. My brother, a retired cop, never trusted her from the start and made a point of never talking about the owners in her presence. Then she stopped talking to them. The coworker, the more senior, was approached by the owner's daughter, the one who had hired her boyfriend's friend's girlfriend, and asked what had happened on the weekend, so she obviously went whining to her boss/friend when all they had done was to asked her to stop doing those things that were so annoying. They hadn't even mentioned that once or twice a day she would reach into her purse and discretely slip something out and go to the washroom for a couple minutes. |
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On 7/19/2018 12:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I don't think you can do that any more. All they did was to say that > they had to talk to her and told her that she has to stop interferring > and interrupting them all the time. That was as far as they got when she > freaked out and said that they were lazy and didn't do anything all day > but stand around and complain about the owners.Â*Â* My brother, a retired > cop, never trusted her from the start and made a point of never talking > about the owners in her presence. Then she stopped talking to them. You need a good boss to recognize workplace poison. Too bad it doesn't always work out that way. nancy |
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:02:00 -0400, John Granade
> wrote: >On 7/19/2018 10:33 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> >> Too complicated! She probably just needs a good slap in the face! >> >I didn't realize you faggots are so violent. How do you think the faggot controls the little boys he molests. . . |
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On 7/19/2018 1:59 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:02:00 -0400, John Granade > > wrote: > >> On 7/19/2018 10:33 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>> >>> Too complicated! She probably just needs a good slap in the face! >>> >> I didn't realize you faggots are so violent. > > How do you think the faggot controls the little boys he molests. . . > > Is this your posse? https://imgur.com/a/MMpxDK8 LOL |
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John Granade wrote:
> On 7/19/2018 1:59 PM, wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:02:00 -0400, John Granade >> > wrote: >> >>> On 7/19/2018 10:33 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >>>> >>>> Too complicated! She probably just needs a good slap in the face! >>>> >>> I didn't realize you faggots are so violent. >> >> How do you think the faggot controls the little boys he molests. . . >> > > > Is this your posse? > > https://imgur.com/a/MMpxDK8 LOL It sure looks like the sorry SOB. |
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On 7/18/2018 3:47 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 12:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > >> Â*Why > did she need to chill the hell out? > This goes back to the original issue in the article, which was, > "Splitting the check at the end" and the statement, "Any server is more > than happy to split a bill among a few friends". > > This one didn't!Â* She freaked out before we had even ordered.Â* My cow > orker (3) was jes trying to calm her down and she freaked out, even > more.Â* Ruined our entire lunch, which we were never able to enjoy.Â* 8| > > nb > > Is there some reason you keep calling him your cow orker? ![]() malfunction? (Tee hee!) There's a simple solution to a bad server - move to another station/section. Servers are assigned specific tables. If you get a server with an attitude before you've even placed your order, sit somewhere else. Still, I've never heard of a "starter tip". The minute the person threw his change back I'd have asked to be reseated (or just plain walked out and found a different restaurant). Jill |
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On 7/19/2018 10:51 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 7:52 PM, Alex wrote: > >> How many jobs have you had?Â* I'm 50 and I've had only five including >> McDonald's when I was a teen. > > I had three as a teen, four as an adult.Â* 7 years, 11 years, 9 years, 27 > years.Â* Left the first three because the business was sold/moved. I wonder why Alex is so concerned about my employment history? I know very few people who went into a job when they graduated who also stayed there until they reached retirement age. Businesses come and go; circumstances alter. People change jobs for various reasons. What does it matter? Jill |
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On 7/19/2018 4:40 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:15:24 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote: > >> writes: >> >>> Is there some reason you keep calling him your cow orker? ![]() >>> malfunction? (Tee hee!) >> >> obviously you've never orked a cow >> >> it's great fun > > Several times a week Sheldon sneaks over to his neighbors farm in > the middle of the night to ork cows in the nude. > > -sw > LOLOL! Jill |
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