On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 07:51:04 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Druce wrote:
>>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> >It's rare that I would need to eat alone as David and I are almost
>> >always together. When I was working, though, I often ate lunch alone
>> >rather than eating with workmates.
>>
>> One wonders why.
>
>I'm with Wayne there.

No, you're not. He wants to have lunch alone.

On 8/20/2018 8:04 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> It's rare that I would need to eat alone as David and I are almost
> always together. When I was working, though, I often ate lunch alone
> rather than eating with workmates.
>

Sometimes it is good to get away from them. For the last 12 years of
working though, I ate lunch with one person most every day, sometimes
with a third but she did not work every day. Both retired, we still
have lunch on occasion.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 8/20/2018 11:16 AM, Gary wrote:
> > I don't know that recipe but it sounds like a horrendously blah
> > dinner. If my wife told me that was going to be dinner, I'd
> > definitely stop by McDonalds before heading home.
> >
> Blah? Gary, I don't know what you mean by that. Red beans & rice is a
> Cajun/Creole spicy dish which includes a lot of seasonings. So does
> andouille sausage. There is nothing *blah* about it.
>
> Really, you'd rather bring home McD's than try something new if your
> "wife" told you she was making it? You sound like quite the catch!

I've had your dinner, Jill. Cajuns might like that but not me.
Knowing what a low opinion of McD's that you have, I guess it
upsets you that some might choose that "inferior" food over what
you cooked.

On 2018-08-20 10:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/20/2018 8:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
> .
>>
>> Yes, quite the mess last night.Â* I'm a bit ****ed off.Â* Don and I (and
>> daughter) spent a lot of time stacking wood over the last 2 weeks and
>> the stack fell over when the ground soaked.Â* That was about 32ft of
>> wood stack.Â* We didn't have it based right with bricks and with all the
>> rain, they sunk in under the weight of the full racks.
>>
>>
>
> Did it cave in forward like?Â* Or the ends give out?Â* I never went more
> than about 15 feet and chimney stacked the ends.Â* Losing a big stack
> like that would ps me off.


Part of mine fell over last week. It is annoying to have to stack it all
over again.

On 8/21/2018 9:02 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 8/20/2018 11:16 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> I don't know that recipe but it sounds like a horrendously blah
>>> dinner. If my wife told me that was going to be dinner, I'd
>>> definitely stop by McDonalds before heading home.
>>>
>> Blah? Gary, I don't know what you mean by that. Red beans & rice is a
>> Cajun/Creole spicy dish which includes a lot of seasonings. So does
>> andouille sausage. There is nothing *blah* about it.
>>
>> Really, you'd rather bring home McD's than try something new if your
>> "wife" told you she was making it? You sound like quite the catch!
>
> I've had your dinner, Jill. Cajuns might like that but not me.
> Knowing what a low opinion of McD's that you have, I guess it
> upsets you that some might choose that "inferior" food over what
> you cooked.
>
Well gee, all you had to say was you'd tried RB&R in the past and didn't
like it. No biggie.

I don't actually care if you like McD's, by the way. Lots of people do
or they wouldn't still be in business. One thing I've noticed lately is
advertising saying they now have fresh (never not frozen) burgers cooked
to order. It took them a long time to figure that one out. Has the
price gone up?

Jill

On 8/21/2018 4:15 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 21-Aug-2018, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> On 8/21/2018 9:02 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 8/20/2018 11:16 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>> I don't know that recipe but it sounds like a horrendously blah
>>>>> dinner. If my wife told me that was going to be dinner, I'd
>>>>> definitely stop by McDonalds before heading home.
>>>>>
>>>> Blah? Gary, I don't know what you mean by that. Red beans & rice is a
>>>> Cajun/Creole spicy dish which includes a lot of seasonings. So does
>>>> andouille sausage. There is nothing *blah* about it.
>>>>
>>>> Really, you'd rather bring home McD's than try something new if your
>>>> "wife" told you she was making it? You sound like quite the catch!
>>>
>>> I've had your dinner, Jill. Cajuns might like that but not me.
>>> Knowing what a low opinion of McD's that you have, I guess it
>>> upsets you that some might choose that "inferior" food over what
>>> you cooked.
>>>
>> Well gee, all you had to say was you'd tried RB&R in the past and didn't
>> like it. No biggie.
>>
>> I don't actually care if you like McD's, by the way. Lots of people do
>> or they wouldn't still be in business. One thing I've noticed lately is
>> advertising saying they now have fresh (never/not frozen) burgers cooked
>> to order. It took them a long time to figure that one out. Has the
>> price gone up?
>
> I don't know about elsewhere, but here, only the Quarter Pounder is made
> with fresh, never frozen beef. The rest of the menu is still made from
> frozen.
>
Yeah, it seems to me that's the only one they're advertising as fresh,
never frozen. I hear these ads in the background but I mostly tune them
out. I don't actually care since I don't eat at McDonald's. I did
wonder if there was a price increase because suddenly they're doing
something surprising like cooking fresh to order.

Heck, they did that even when they were using the frozen burgers. As a
kid and as a teen, any time we went to McD's I ordered a plain hamburger
or a plain cheeseburger. That meant it couldn't be something already
wrapped and sitting under a heat lamp, pre-dressed with pickles and
whatever) Order "plain" and they slapped a new (albeit frozen) pattie
on the grill/griddle. A slice of cheese, a toasted bun. I learned a
long time ago my pickiness about condiments and pre-dressed burgers gets
me one that is cooked when I order it. What a novel concept!

I do wonder if McD's is charging more for this not previously frozen
version.

Jill

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:51:37 GMT, l not -l wrote:

> Perhaps I should [...] order something else "my way".

I ordered a McD cheeseburger with no toppings. It came with no cheese.

On 2018-08-21 6:05 PM, Mike_Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:51:37 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I should [...] order something else "my way".
>
> I ordered a McD cheeseburger with no toppings. It came with no cheese.
>

It could be worse. We went to a Thai restaurant with some friends. They
had been there before and she had ordered a vegetable curry dish with
chicken, assuming they would take the same dish and add chicken to it.
Nope. They did it with chicken instead of vegetables. So when she was
there with us she tried to order the vegetable curry *with* chicken....
and vegetables. Nope. They could not do that.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 8/20/2018 8:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
> .
> >
> > Yes, quite the mess last night. I'm a bit ****ed off. Don and I
> > (and daughter) spent a lot of time stacking wood over the last 2
> > weeks and the stack fell over when the ground soaked. That was
> > about 32ft of wood stack. We didn't have it based right with
> > bricks and with all the rain, they sunk in under the weight of the
> > full racks.
> >
> >
>
> Did it cave in forward like? Or the ends give out? I never went
> more than about 15 feet and chimney stacked the ends. Losing a big
> stack like that would ps me off.

Forward cave. Don said he didnt brick the base solid enough and it
sunk into the wet ground.

On 2018-08-21 9:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> That reminds me of a true story my dad used to tell. Shortly after
> my parents were married in the late 1930s they were on a driving trip
> and stopped at a small roadside restaurant. They both ordered cherry
> pie a la mode for dessert but the waitress told them they didn't have
> any. Noticing that there was a cherrry pie under a cover on the
> counter, my dad asked if they had cherry pie. The waitress replied
> yes. Then he asked if they had vanilla ice cream. The waitress
> replied yes. My dad then told the wairess to bring them each a piece
> of cherry pie with a scoop of vanilla ice cream along side of it.
>

Here's a video of a scene from Five Easy Pieces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdIXrF34Bz0

On 8/21/2018 8:59 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> For a while after I retired I still had lunch with 2 or 3 people I
> had worked with. Eventually, though, I broke away from that since
> they usually wanted to talk about work and I didn't. Once I was
> retired, I was done. :-)
>

Understood. Sue and I may talk about it but it is maybe 10% or less of
our discussion. When we had lunch together we discussed a variety of
subjects from politics to food to cars, etc. I don't miss the work, but
I do miss some of the people.

On 8/21/2018 9:42 PM, cshenk wrote:

>>>
>>
>> Did it cave in forward like? Or the ends give out? I never went
>> more than about 15 feet and chimney stacked the ends. Losing a big
>> stack like that would ps me off.
>
> Forward cave. Don said he didnt brick the base solid enough and it
> sunk into the wet ground.
>

So you have to trip over what fell to re-stack. That sucks. Bet it
won't happen again.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:39:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/21/2018 9:42 PM, cshenk wrote:

No, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>> Did it cave in forward like? Or the ends give out? I never went
>>> more than about 15 feet and chimney stacked the ends. Losing a big
>>> stack like that would ps me off.

cshenk wrote this:

>> Forward cave. Don said he didnt brick the base solid enough and it
>> sunk into the wet ground.
>>
>
>So you have to trip over what fell to re-stack. That sucks. Bet it
>won't happen again.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:03:42 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-08-21 6:05 PM, Mike_Duffy wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:51:37 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps I should [...] order something else "my way".
> >
> > I ordered a McD cheeseburger with no toppings. It came with no cheese.
> >
>
> It could be worse. We went to a Thai restaurant with some friends. They
> had been there before and she had ordered a vegetable curry dish with
> chicken, assuming they would take the same dish and add chicken to it.
> Nope. They did it with chicken instead of vegetables. So when she was
> there with us she tried to order the vegetable curry *with* chicken....
> and vegetables. Nope. They could not do that.

I always find it ironic at ethnic restaurants how difficult it is to
get a dish with a lot of vegetables and a little meat. You just know
that's how they eat at home, but it's next to impossible to get that
in their restaurants.

Cindy Hamilton

Mike_Duffy wrote:
>
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:51:37 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>
> > Perhaps I should [...] order something else "my way".
>
> I ordered a McD cheeseburger with no toppings. It came with no cheese.

That's funny but hey - they *did* give you no toppings!

Years ago, my young daughter and I went to Hardee's when they had
the full fixings bar. She ordered a cheeseburger and they left
out the burger and the cheese. It was just a bun wrapped up. lol
I took it back and got a correct cheeseburger and they told me to
just keep the plain bun. So I loaded it up at the fixings bar and
ate that. It was so delicious even without the burger.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Mike_Duffy wrote:
>
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:51:37 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>
> > Perhaps I should [...] order something else "my way".
>
> I ordered a McD cheeseburger with no toppings. It came with no cheese.

That's funny but hey - they *did* give you no toppings!

Years ago, my young daughter and I went to Hardee's when they had
the full fixings bar. She ordered a cheeseburger and they left
out the burger and the cheese. It was just a bun wrapped up. lol
I took it back and got a correct cheeseburger and they told me to
just keep the plain bun. So I loaded it up at the fixings bar and
ate that. It was so delicious even without the burger.

==

LOL Please describe the 'fixings'?

On 8/21/2018 10:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-08-21 9:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> That reminds me of aÂ* true story my dad used to tell.Â* Shortly after
>> my parents were married in the late 1930s they were on a driving trip
>> and stopped at a small roadside restaurant.Â* They both ordered cherry
>> pie a la mode for dessert but the waitress told them they didn't have
>> any.Â* Noticing that there was a cherrry pie under a cover on the
>> counter, my dad asked if they had cherry pie.Â* The waitress replied
>> yes.Â* Then he asked if they had vanilla ice cream.Â* The waitress
>> replied yes.Â* My dad then told the wairess to bring them each a piece
>> of cherry pie with a scoop of vanilla ice cream along side of it.
>>
>
> Here's a video of a scene from Five Easy Pieces
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdIXrF34Bz0

Funny! These days a brawl would break out, all the customers would get
involved and several someones would take video using their phones.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> One thing I've noticed lately is
> advertising saying they now have fresh (never not frozen) burgers cooked
> to order. It took them a long time to figure that one out. Has the
> price gone up?

I wouldn't know that but I actually do NOT like the idea of
serving fresh, never frozen burgers at McDonalds. You just know
how that will turn out. If they don't sell all of their fresh
beef delivery before the next delivery....the manager will be
smelling the leftovers from the old delivery and tell employees
to keep selling the old stuff as long as it smells ok. Trust me,
that will happen. They will NOT want to toss out old beef and
lose money.

Frozen burgers are safer, imo. I've never had a problem with
frozen burger taste.

On 8/22/2018 10:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> One thing I've noticed lately is
>> advertising saying they now have fresh (never not frozen) burgers cooked
>> to order. It took them a long time to figure that one out. Has the
>> price gone up?
>
> I wouldn't know that but I actually do NOT like the idea of
> serving fresh, never frozen burgers at McDonalds. You just know
> how that will turn out. If they don't sell all of their fresh
> beef delivery before the next delivery....the manager will be
> smelling the leftovers from the old delivery and tell employees
> to keep selling the old stuff as long as it smells ok. Trust me,
> that will happen. They will NOT want to toss out old beef and
> lose money.
>
> Frozen burgers are safer, imo. I've never had a problem with
> frozen burger taste.
>
You're preaching to the choir. I wouldn't want to have to second
guess how many Quarter Pounders might be sold in a given day. Don't
want to 86 it off the menu so then over-order and worry about spoilage
(although ground beef, properly stored and chilled, will keep for
several days).

I have an old Tupperware stackable hamburger press set. I press and
freeze 1/4 to 1/3 lb. burgers all the time. I do take the time to thaw
one out before cooking it. But hey, I'm not working in a fast food
restaurant.

Jill

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 03:15:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:03:42 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-08-21 6:05 PM, Mike_Duffy wrote:
>> > On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:51:37 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>> >
>> >> Perhaps I should [...] order something else "my way".
>> >
>> > I ordered a McD cheeseburger with no toppings. It came with no cheese.
>> >
>>
>> It could be worse. We went to a Thai restaurant with some friends. They
>> had been there before and she had ordered a vegetable curry dish with
>> chicken, assuming they would take the same dish and add chicken to it.
>> Nope. They did it with chicken instead of vegetables. So when she was
>> there with us she tried to order the vegetable curry *with* chicken....
>> and vegetables. Nope. They could not do that.
>
>I always find it ironic at ethnic restaurants how difficult it is to
>get a dish with a lot of vegetables and a little meat. You just know
>that's how they eat at home, but it's next to impossible to get that
>in their restaurants.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Chinese restaurant dishes are mostly veggies with little meat... in
fact it's very easy to order an all veggie dish with no meat because
most dishes are fully prepared and then bits of meat are added.
It's very easy to get pizza with veggies and no meat, same for pasta
dishes. Technically a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is all
veggies... bread is wheat and last I checked wheat is a veggie.
I find it easy to have all vegetable and no meat dishes at ethnic
restaurants, but be prepared for a lot of rice, beans, potatoes,
noodles, bread/tacos and such.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:27:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> One thing I've noticed lately is
>> advertising saying they now have fresh (never not frozen) burgers cooked
>> to order. It took them a long time to figure that one out. Has the
>> price gone up?
>
>I wouldn't know that but I actually do NOT like the idea of
>serving fresh, never frozen burgers at McDonalds. You just know
>how that will turn out. If they don't sell all of their fresh
>beef delivery before the next delivery....the manager will be
>smelling the leftovers from the old delivery and tell employees
>to keep selling the old stuff as long as it smells ok. Trust me,
>that will happen. They will NOT want to toss out old beef and
>lose money.
>
>Frozen burgers are safer, imo. I've never had a problem with
>frozen burger taste.

Ground meat can keep well refrigerated for a couple days... I'm sure
that most of yoose do exactly that with your stupidmarket ground
mystery meat... probably a day or two old when you buy it.

In article >,
writes:
>Me, too. I think nothing of going out by myself to eat; I did it today.
>Amazing the number of people who wouldn't dream of eating in a restaurant
>by themselves. I've asked a few why the hesitation and invariable the
>answer I get is "because somebody might look at me if I eat by myself."
>It's hard not bursting out laughing in their face.
I just don't enjoy eating alone, at home or in public.

On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 4:00:51 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 03:15:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:03:42 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2018-08-21 6:05 PM, Mike_Duffy wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:51:37 GMT, l not -l wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Perhaps I should [...] order something else "my way".
> >> >
> >> > I ordered a McD cheeseburger with no toppings. It came with no cheese.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It could be worse. We went to a Thai restaurant with some friends. They
> >> had been there before and she had ordered a vegetable curry dish with
> >> chicken, assuming they would take the same dish and add chicken to it.
> >> Nope. They did it with chicken instead of vegetables. So when she was
> >> there with us she tried to order the vegetable curry *with* chicken....
> >> and vegetables. Nope. They could not do that.
> >
> >I always find it ironic at ethnic restaurants how difficult it is to
> >get a dish with a lot of vegetables and a little meat. You just know
> >that's how they eat at home, but it's next to impossible to get that
> >in their restaurants.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> Chinese restaurant dishes are mostly veggies with little meat... in
> fact it's very easy to order an all veggie dish with no meat because
> most dishes are fully prepared and then bits of meat are added.

Clearly, you've been to every Chinese restaurant in the world, so
you're an authority.

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> Years ago, my young daughter and I went to Hardee's when they had
> the full fixings bar...
>
> ==
>
> LOL Please describe the 'fixings'?

Like a small salad bar that contained everything you might want
to put on a hamburger. Fresh tomato slices, onion slices,
lettuce, pickle slices. Then packs of mustard, ketchup, mayo,
horseradish mayo, relish, etc.

I feel like I've forgotten many things but that's the basics. You
put what you want on your burger. Nice for turning a plain
hamburger into a deluxe one.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> Years ago, my young daughter and I went to Hardee's when they had
> the full fixings bar...
>
> ==
>
> LOL Please describe the 'fixings'?

Like a small salad bar that contained everything you might want
to put on a hamburger. Fresh tomato slices, onion slices,
lettuce, pickle slices. Then packs of mustard, ketchup, mayo,
horseradish mayo, relish, etc.

I feel like I've forgotten many things but that's the basics. You
put what you want on your burger. Nice for turning a plain
hamburger into a deluxe one.

==

Thanks

On 2018-08-23 6:38 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> Chinese restaurant dishes are mostly veggies with little meat... in
>> fact it's very easy to order an all veggie dish with no meat because
>> most dishes are fully prepared and then bits of meat are added.
>
> Clearly, you've been to every Chinese restaurant in the world, so
> you're an authority.


I had a meal in a Chinese restaurant in San Francisco that set the bar
for Chinese food way higher than anything I can get around here. I had
Kung Pau chicken for the first time and there was a lot of chicken in
the dish. The other item was crispy fried lamb and it was all lamb, no
vegetables at all. It was thin strips of boneless rib roast, dredged in
some kind of fine flour and spices and fried. It was delicious.

On 8/23/2018 2:52 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

> I just don't enjoy eating alone, at home or in public.
>

Understood. Having a meal with someone is a great time for pleasant
social interaction.

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 1:52:33 AM UTC-5, Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
>
> I just don't enjoy eating alone, at home or in public.
>
Why? Do you feel you must be entertained or entertaining when dining?

I like having a dining companion but if there's nobody but me at the
table, it will not ruin my meal or make it less enjoyable.

On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 10:00:51 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Chinese restaurant dishes are mostly veggies with little meat... in
> fact it's very easy to order an all veggie dish with no meat because
> most dishes are fully prepared and then bits of meat are added.
> It's very easy to get pizza with veggies and no meat, same for pasta
> dishes. Technically a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is all
> veggies... bread is wheat and last I checked wheat is a veggie.
> I find it easy to have all vegetable and no meat dishes at ethnic
> restaurants, but be prepared for a lot of rice, beans, potatoes,
> noodles, bread/tacos and such.

Beats me if we get little meat at our Chinese restaurants. They look like the correct amount to me. The last time we were at a Chinese restaurant, we had to order two plates with cake noodle. Cake noodle won't be found in China or anyplace else but here. It's great stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...3QG2VdAcdAj5R6

On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:42:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/23/2018 2:52 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
>
>> I just don't enjoy eating alone, at home or in public.
>>
>
>Understood. Having a meal with someone is a great time for pleasant
>social interaction.

Darling, shall we have some pleasant social interaction later today?

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2018-08-20 10:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 8/20/2018 8:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > .
> > >
> > > Yes, quite the mess last night.Â* I'm a bit ****ed off.Â* Don and I
> > > (and daughter) spent a lot of time stacking wood over the last 2
> > > weeks and the stack fell over when the ground soaked.Â* That was
> > > about 32ft of wood stack.Â* We didn't have it based right with
> > > bricks and with all the rain, they sunk in under the weight of
> > > the full racks.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Did it cave in forward like?Â* Or the ends give out?Â* I never went
> > more than about 15 feet and chimney stacked the ends.Â* Losing a
> > big stack like that would ps me off.
>
>
> Part of mine fell over last week. It is annoying to have to stack it
> all over again.

We have the wood restacked now. We'd not put bricks under the footing
and all the rain made the ground soft.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 8/21/2018 9:42 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Did it cave in forward like? Or the ends give out? I never went
> > > more than about 15 feet and chimney stacked the ends. Losing a
> > > big stack like that would ps me off.
> >
> > Forward cave. Don said he didnt brick the base solid enough and it
> > sunk into the wet ground.
> >
>
> So you have to trip over what fell to re-stack. That sucks. Bet it
> won't happen again.

LOl, a mistake for sure. WE moved the racks this year to a better spot.

I also got 2 more so I think it's 8 now (most 8ft, 1 12ft and a 6ft).