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> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:15:30 +1000, Druce >
> wrote:
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>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 21:08:03 -0400,
wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 08:03:47 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 6:31:16 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandy soil costs less to excavate.
>>>>>
>>>> Maybe so, but you've got to constantly battle the sand caving in upon
>>>> itself while digging out a basement. To thwart that problem gunite is
>>>> used. Then you have to make sure there is no seepage from ground water
>>>> since the water table is so high.
>>>>
>>>> Most people moving to Florida are trying to downsize and having a base-
>>>> ment just encourages more junk to be stored. I have a daylight basement,
>>>> aka a dugout, that is accessed from within the house. My water heater is
>>>> down there along with my gas furnace which is suspended from the ceiling.
>>>> I haven't been down there for a year and have no intention of going down
>>>> there anytime soon. The only benefit, for me, of having a basement is
>>>> it provides a place for those two appliances.
>>>
>>> Sounds like Florida is not a habital place for anything but flamingos
>>> and gaters... there's only swamp water

>>
>> If I had to choose between Florida and upstate NY or whatever it's
>> called, I'd pick Florida. It might not be unlike where I live now.

>
>
> Can you spell L I A R?
>


Popeye, damit, yoose forgot to call him a *FAGGOT* again.

OTOH, maybe yoose right and druce is lying. He probably picked florida
because he knows yoose low down sorry ass won't be there.



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U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:17:49 -0400, wrote:
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>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:15:08 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy, we didn't have that singular flood experience because of a high water table...it was water
>> >from rain ... When the ground got saturated after a few days of continuing torrential downpours, the ground
>>> became super-saturated and water didn't have any place to go. if the flooding had been because of a
>>> high water table, like being on bottomland or too near a river, creek or lake, I would be eligible
>>> for flood insurance, according to what the insurance people told me. But I am not.
>>>
>>> I am at an elevation such that the builders thought there was no reason to install underground drainage pipe
>>> around the foundation when we built the house. This area was farmland before it was developed into
>>> Residential neighborhoods.
>>>
>>> N.

>>
>> I'm on farmland/bottomland, 70 years ago when these houses
>> were built they installed French drains... the houses were built on
>> the highest points and before the water table rises under the house
>> the French drain directs it away to a lower point. Here that water
>> drains by a six inch pipe to a creek some 100' away. There's a large
>> grate in my basement floor covering a pit that connects to that French
>> drain pipe. The water from the dehumidifier, the RO water filter the
>> deep sink, and the washing machine in the basement all drain into that
>> pit and that grey water flows to the creek.

>
> So, you're draining waste water into a live creek. Nice. Sheldon the
> polluter and destroyer of nature.
>


Hell thats not too bad for Popeye. He throws his garbage out his windows.



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On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 06:20:23 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
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>On Tue 28 Aug 2018 06:11:06p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>> On 8/28/2018 7:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I said "if I lived in a hurricane zone". The only hurricane that
>>> has hot this area in my lifetime was Hurricane Hazel in 1954.

>>
>> Funny you mention that as I just mentioned it to my wife from
>> something I read. We were vacationing at the New Jersey shore and
>> had flooding in the streets. I also read that one of the most
>> popular girl's names today is Hazel. .
>>

>
>My mothre's first name was Hazel, but she was born in 1913.


I hope she wasn't a nut.
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:58:58 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
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>On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 11:08:27 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-08-28 10:33 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> > Cheri and Barb, even though this thread drifted far from the OP, it
>> > was definitely a good drift since we quit reading/talking about
>> > Kuthe's private parts. ;-))
>> >

>>
>>
>> Don't we all wish his whole life would be private. There is way TMI when
>> his thoughts escape through the keyboard.

>
>The only real solution is for nobody to ever participate in the threads that
>he starts or respond to any of his other posts. A nice dream, but I can't
>see us all having the discipline to do it.
>
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Kootchies posts are like when watching a good show on TV and channel
surfing during a commercial break and not feeling like hitting the
kitchen for a snack... a two minute diversion through the looking
glass. Oops, two minutes are up.
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 03:37:29 +1000, Druce >
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>On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 07:33:24 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:
>
>>Cheri and Barb, even though this thread drifted far from the OP, it was definitely a good drift
>>since we quit reading/talking about Kuthe's private parts. ;-))

>
>Lol. But for how long?


Speaking of Kootchie's private parts, doncha mean how short? LOL
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On 8/29/2018 7:00 AM, l not -l wrote:

>> If I knew the part number or name of the gas cap I needed I'd probably
>> looked
>> on eBay first then toddled off to Amazon to look and check prices.

> +1
> When I do that, at least 90% of the time I find the same item on eBay at
> less total cost. Between eBay and ordering from Walmart online, it is very
> rare that I find something on Amazon at a better, or even equal, price.
>


I've found stuff on eBay that could not be found elsewhere. OTOH, one
medical supply that I buy is considerably more than Amazon.
Couple of times a year I buy a Respironics filter. Amazon is 8.95 but
eBay is from $8 to $14 from various sellers. You have to look through
a lot of stuff to find the good deals.


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US Janet, I believe that is what I said about zoo programs, already. The
Cleveland one, the Chester one, and no new Bronx ones.

N.
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On 8/28/2018 10:25 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>> I believe "The Zoo" which featured the Bronx Zoo was very enjoyable, but as far as I know they
>> Had one season, but are not showing any new ones at this time.


The Zoo had two seasons (so far).

> the Bronx Zoo is in reruns. There are 2 other zoo programs running.
> One from London and the other from a southern state.


The other two have such similar names I can't tell them apart until
I hear the accent.

I just re-watched the Cincinnati episode with the elephants, amazing
the ritual for the two males to agree to share a space.

nancy
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 08:17:01 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
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>US Janet, I believe that is what I said about zoo programs, already. The
>Cleveland one, the Chester one, and no new Bronx ones.
>
>N.


sorry, I'm weaning myself from this newsgroup so I don't see
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concepts, it's just so tedious when the crap from the "I can shock you
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 08:17:01 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>US Janet, I believe that is what I said about zoo programs, already. The
>Cleveland one, the Chester one, and no new Bronx ones.
>
>N.


sorry, I'm weaning myself from this newsgroup so I don't see
everything. It's not like I'm a prude and don't know the words and
concepts, it's just so tedious when the crap from the "I can shock you
with my filth group" goes on for a couple of weeks at a time.

===

I hope that doesn't mean you are leaving???
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> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 08:17:01 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>>US Janet, I believe that is what I said about zoo programs, already. The
>>Cleveland one, the Chester one, and no new Bronx ones.
>>
>>N.

>
> sorry, I'm weaning myself from this newsgroup so I don't see
> everything. It's not like I'm a prude and don't know the words and
> concepts, it's just so tedious when the crap from the "I can shock you
> with my filth group" goes on for a couple of weeks at a time.



Same here, there is just so much posted filth, I'm no prude either, but as
soon as I see that stuff started, I just stop reading the whole thread
usually. I guess these odious garbage mouths have never heard of the concept
involving "subtle sexiness."

Cheri

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On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:25:53 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 08:17:01 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>US Janet, I believe that is what I said about zoo programs, already. The
>>>Cleveland one, the Chester one, and no new Bronx ones.
>>>
>>>N.

>>
>> sorry, I'm weaning myself from this newsgroup so I don't see
>> everything. It's not like I'm a prude and don't know the words and
>> concepts, it's just so tedious when the crap from the "I can shock you
>> with my filth group" goes on for a couple of weeks at a time.

>
>
>Same here, there is just so much posted filth, I'm no prude either, but as
>soon as I see that stuff started, I just stop reading the whole thread
>usually. I guess these odious garbage mouths have never heard of the concept
>involving "subtle sexiness."
>
>Cheri

they are entertaining themselves at the expense of others. I guess
they have always had performance issues and have had to think of
different ways to have a pretend life
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Cheri wrote:
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>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:12:41 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-08-26 02:46:15 +0000, said:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:31:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> (snipped)
>>>
>>>>>> We thought about a 2 br but the price for 3 was not that much
>>>>>> more. The
>>>>> third will be an office/sewing room. We also got an extended
>>>>> garage so
>>>>> I can put my woodworking tools in there.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will be fun getting everything set up. Taking some furniture,
>>>>> buying
>>>>> some new. We upgraded the kitchen appliances but will buy a washer,
>>>>> dryer and refrigerator. Gas for cooking, including the grill.
>>>>
>>>> I hope there's a basement otherwise it's like living in the
>>>> garage.... I would never live in a house on a slab, a double wide
>>>> trailer up on blocks is better, at least it's off the ground. I don't
>>>> consider a house on a slab a house, it's a barn.
>>>
>>> Good thing Ed wanted your opinion, huh? LOL!!
>>>

>> Ed wanted everyone's opinion, that's why he posted to a newsgroup.
>> Of course opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. LOL

>
>
> I don't recall him wanting an opinion on the house he and his wife chose
> for themselves. What, you think he checks RFC before he makes important
> moves, as if they have to be approved by Sheldon first? Get over
> yourself. LOL
>
> Cheri


Absolutely one must get even the slightest things approved by Popeye,
else he will stamp his feet and throw a hissy fit.

It's what sailors do, I guess.


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Druce wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:39:19 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:28:11 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/26/2018 6:38 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardly... I wouldn't live in Florida if I was given that house for
>>>>> free. Florida is the last place I'd want to live for retirement.
>>>>>
>>>> So what? Ed and his wife don't want to live where they have to deal
>>>> with snow anymore, and I'm sure they don't want to mow acres of land.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> You think Ed lived in antartica, he had some three months of snow
>>> season a year and it didn't snow but a few times, no one lived in
>>> igloos... and it was a lot less costly to have his driveway plowed
>>> than moving. And he never mowed acres... he could have paid to have
>>> his lot mowed, a whole lot less than moving and having to pay the
>>> maintenence fee.

>>
>> My question to you is...Why the Hell do you care where Ed moves to? You're
>> not paying his bills or making decisions for him, so why not just put a sock
>> in it and tend to your own home.
>>
>> Cheri
>> ==
>>
>> I may be wrong but I thought he was moving to be near family too?

>
> But do they have a basement?
>


Yes, no basement is very bad news. Have one dug immediately, and don't
forget to outfit it with french drains and RO water filter.

And stock it with large quantities of canned spinach.



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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 08:17:01 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>>US Janet, I believe that is what I said about zoo programs, already. The
>>Cleveland one, the Chester one, and no new Bronx ones.
>>
>>N.

>
> sorry, I'm weaning myself from this newsgroup so I don't see
> everything. It's not like I'm a prude and don't know the words and
> concepts, it's just so tedious when the crap from the "I can shock you
> with my filth group" goes on for a couple of weeks at a time.



Same here, there is just so much posted filth, I'm no prude either, but as
soon as I see that stuff started, I just stop reading the whole thread
usually. I guess these odious garbage mouths have never heard of the concept
involving "subtle sexiness."

Cheri
==

Amen to that!!!


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On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:03:28 -0400, Dave Smith
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>On 2018-08-28 5:57 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:41:35 -0400, Dave Smith

> a hurricane zone he'd know better than to head underground. I hope.
>>>
>>> In this part of the world houses have basements. If I lived in a
>>> hurricane zone and had a basement it would be about the last place I
>>> would head in a hurricane.

>>
>> Another one who doesn't know that basements have drains.

>
>
>I live in a rural area and I have a basement, but there is no sewer
>system for it to drain into. I have a sump pump. If we get a hurricane
>and there is flooding the power is likely to be out, so no juice for the
>sump pump.


That you have a sump pums says your basement floods. Perhaps in your
part of Canada the building code doesn't require a basement drain...
in the NY County where I live basements require a drainage system.
Whoever built your house didn't know about installing a basement
drainage system or the customer was too stingy to pay the price. I
would strongly suggest you obtain a generator, minimally one large
enough to run your sump pump.
There are methods to install
a basement drain after the house is built. not very costly or
devatating to the building. The first step is to determine where the
water is originating. Very often water enters the basement from
inadequate rain gutters, eather thje gutters are too small or the
downspts do not guide water away from the foundation.
My house gutters have four downspouts, one at each corner. Each
enters a piece of 6" piece of PVCthat goes into the ground about two
feet with an elbow attached and then a ten foot legth of PV that
slopes and exits the ground on a slope, roof water runs away from the
house foundation. Ln ly maintenence is a couple times a year I clear
any plant growth from where the water exits. When houses are dsbuilt
the ground is typically grdes so water runs away from the
house but often within a short time that soil erodes and washes
downhill, if not repaired standing water will form at your foundation,
that water will enter your basement.... what type of backfill
determines how fast water enters... a good builder will backfill to
the footings with rock and gravel and forming a place at the lowest
point where water collects and flows down hill via lengths of
perforated PVC... also form a concrete lined pit at the lowest point
of the basement floor and poke a hole thrugh the foundation so as to
attach a piece of PVc that connects to the piece running down grade.
Now you'll have a basement drain, so you can get rid of the sump pump.
You can do the project yourself, if you have a friend with a backhoe
who owes you a favor it'll cost practically nothing, just the price of
some PVC and a few bags of sacrete. When I say DIY I mean hire a
strong teenager and supply a shovel. If it's down hill to the road
and you're not too far from the road and there's a culvert you can run
the PVC to the road and dump your basement water into the culvert.
There are plenty of web sites describing how to construct the various
styles of French drains.
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On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:19:27 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 06:38:26 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Druce" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:48:24 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Druce" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:20:45 -0400, wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:15:30 +1000, Druce >
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 21:08:03 -0400,
wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Sounds like Florida is not a habital place for anything but flamingos
> >>>>>>>and gaters... there's only swamp water
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If I had to choose between Florida and upstate NY or whatever it's
> >>>>>>called, I'd pick Florida. It might not be unlike where I live now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Can you spell L I A R?
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you saying I'd choose New York state? Maybe in summer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Why in summer?
> >>
> >> A bit warmer?

> >
> >
> >OK, people that can try to escape the heat and humidity as far as I know,
> >which isn't much about NY.

>
> I'd want to escape the winters and autumns of where Sheldon lives. I'd
> be happy to pay for that with a bit too much heat and humidity. Like
> in Florida or where we live now.


Everybody's different. You couldn't pay me to live in Florida. Sheldon's
winters are a little too cold for me. I wouldn't want to give up May and
October in Michigan, when the weather is comfortably cool and dry. Nor
would I want to entirely forego the cold of winter and heat of summer.
I appear to live in the ideal place for me. Luckily, I was born here.

Cindy Hamilton


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On 8/29/2018 4:19 PM, Druce wrote:

>>>>>>>> Sounds like Florida is not a habital place for anything but flamingos
>>>>>>>> and gaters... there's only swamp water
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I had to choose between Florida and upstate NY or whatever it's
>>>>>>> called, I'd pick Florida. It might not be unlike where I live now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you spell L I A R?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying I'd choose New York state? Maybe in summer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why in summer?
>>>
>>> A bit warmer?

>>
>>
>> OK, people that can try to escape the heat and humidity as far as I know,
>> which isn't much about NY.

>
> I'd want to escape the winters and autumns of where Sheldon lives. I'd
> be happy to pay for that with a bit too much heat and humidity. Like
> in Florida or where we live now.
>


Mid September to November are very nice in NY State and most places at
that latitude. Mid December to mid March is cold, dark, even depressing
for some.
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> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:03:28 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-08-28 5:57 PM,
wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:41:35 -0400, Dave Smith

>> a hurricane zone he'd know better than to head underground. I hope.
>>>>
>>>> In this part of the world houses have basements. If I lived in a
>>>> hurricane zone and had a basement it would be about the last place I
>>>> would head in a hurricane.
>>>
>>> Another one who doesn't know that basements have drains.

>>
>>
>> I live in a rural area and I have a basement, but there is no sewer
>> system for it to drain into. I have a sump pump. If we get a hurricane
>> and there is flooding the power is likely to be out, so no juice for the
>> sump pump.

>
> That you have a sump pums says your basement floods. Perhaps in your
> part of Canada the building code doesn't require a basement drain...
> in the NY County where I live basements require a drainage system.
> Whoever built your house didn't know about installing a basement
> drainage system or the customer was too stingy to pay the price. I
> would strongly suggest you obtain a generator, minimally one large
> enough to run your sump pump.
> There are methods to install
> a basement drain after the house is built. not very costly or
> devatating to the building. The first step is to determine where the
> water is originating. Very often water enters the basement from
> inadequate rain gutters, eather thje gutters are too small or the
> downspts do not guide water away from the foundation.
> My house gutters have four downspouts, one at each corner. Each
> enters a piece of 6" piece of PVCthat goes into the ground about two
> feet with an elbow attached and then a ten foot legth of PV that
> slopes and exits the ground on a slope, roof water runs away from the
> house foundation. Ln ly maintenence is a couple times a year I clear
> any plant growth from where the water exits. When houses are dsbuilt
> the ground is typically grdes so water runs away from the
> house but often within a short time that soil erodes and washes
> downhill, if not repaired standing water will form at your foundation,
> that water will enter your basement.... what type of backfill
> determines how fast water enters... a good builder will backfill to
> the footings with rock and gravel and forming a place at the lowest
> point where water collects and flows down hill via lengths of
> perforated PVC... also form a concrete lined pit at the lowest point
> of the basement floor and poke a hole thrugh the foundation so as to
> attach a piece of PVc that connects to the piece running down grade.
> Now you'll have a basement drain, so you can get rid of the sump pump.
> You can do the project yourself, if you have a friend with a backhoe
> who owes you a favor it'll cost practically nothing, just the price of
> some PVC and a few bags of sacrete. When I say DIY I mean hire a
> strong teenager and supply a shovel. If it's down hill to the road
> and you're not too far from the road and there's a culvert you can run
> the PVC to the road and dump your basement water into the culvert.
> There are plenty of web sites describing how to construct the various
> styles of French drains.
>


Popey, don't yoose think he should just doze the place and build another
house?

Second time around, he might come close to the Popeye building code,
which is inflexible and very strict.




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On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:27:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
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>On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:19:27 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 06:38:26 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Druce" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:48:24 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>"Druce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:20:45 -0400, wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:15:30 +1000, Druce >
>> >>>>>wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 21:08:03 -0400,
wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Sounds like Florida is not a habital place for anything but flamingos
>> >>>>>>>and gaters... there's only swamp water
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>If I had to choose between Florida and upstate NY or whatever it's
>> >>>>>>called, I'd pick Florida. It might not be unlike where I live now.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Can you spell L I A R?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are you saying I'd choose New York state? Maybe in summer.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Why in summer?
>> >>
>> >> A bit warmer?
>> >
>> >
>> >OK, people that can try to escape the heat and humidity as far as I know,
>> >which isn't much about NY.

>>
>> I'd want to escape the winters and autumns of where Sheldon lives. I'd
>> be happy to pay for that with a bit too much heat and humidity. Like
>> in Florida or where we live now.

>
>Everybody's different. You couldn't pay me to live in Florida. Sheldon's
>winters are a little too cold for me. I wouldn't want to give up May and
>October in Michigan, when the weather is comfortably cool and dry. Nor
>would I want to entirely forego the cold of winter and heat of summer.
>I appear to live in the ideal place for me. Luckily, I was born here.


I was born in a climate with 4 seasons and plenty of rain. But I
prefer blue skies and sunshine, which I get plenty here.

>Cindy Hamilton

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>Druce wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 06:38:26 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, people that can try to escape the heat and humidity as far as I know,
>>> which isn't much about NY.

>>
>> I'd want to escape the winters and autumns of where Sheldon lives. I'd
>> be happy to pay for that with a bit too much heat and humidity. Like
>> in Florida or where we live now.
>>

>
>Popeye is quite comfortable in his igloo up there at high altitudes,
>even at 40 below zero.
>
>And it has a basement.
>
>With french drains and RO filter.
>
>And he doesn't have to mow in winter.


And he lives in the correct state. All the other states are swamps
that will flood soon.
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